RE: Palm Pilot Devices

2001-12-12 Thread Jim Holmgren
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices The Blackberry is a great, easy to use, simple to understandtool for sales drones and the like. I don't think I would put it in the same class as a pocket PC, for most of the reasons spelled out in this thread. It is not as multi-functional as a PocketPC

RE: Palm Pilot Devices

2001-12-11 Thread Micciche, Robert
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices OPINION: Palm= Ancient garbage. Pocket PC is a NASA Skunkworks device compared to a Palm. BUT: Pocket PC is heavier, battery life is far shorter. If he is only doing simple stuff (text email) Palm might be the way to go. Pocket PC Native: Word Outlook

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2001-12-11 Thread Jim Holmgren
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices I agree with Robert's assessment of Palm and Pocket PC (Pocket PC 2002 looks pretty sweet from what I saw at MAC). What about a Blackberry? He can carry a fully functional copy of his Outlook with him. .02 more -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL

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2001-12-11 Thread Lefkovics, William
Drop the word 'Palm' and you'll be fine, :o) Try Pocket PC. HP Jornada Compaq IPaq. Casio BE-300 William -Original Message- From: John Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Palm Pilot Devices This is a bit

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2001-12-11 Thread bill . higgins
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices However... there are tonnes more apps for the Palm... :) -Original Message-From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:59To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Palm Pilot Devices I agree with Robert's

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2001-12-11 Thread Brent Hudson
One bit of advice.. if you want it to sync with his exchange calendar etc.. do not install the palm desktop.. Brent -Original Message- From: John Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 December 2001 08:43 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Palm Pilot Devices This is a bit off

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2001-12-11 Thread Charles Whitby
The apps that come with any of the Palm devices should let you synch with OL2000 quite nicely. I do it all the time, and I have a IIIxe. -Original Message- From: John Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Palm

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2001-12-11 Thread David N Precht
Intellisync and Desktop to go (I believe that is what it is called) --- Charles Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The apps that come with any of the Palm devices should let you synch with OL2000 quite nicely. I do it all the time, and I have a IIIxe. -Original Message- From: John

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2001-12-11 Thread Joe Irvine
-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: Palm Pilot Devices The apps that come with any of the Palm devices should let you synch with OL2000 quite nicely. I do it all the time, and I have a IIIxe. -Original Message- From: John Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11

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2001-12-11 Thread Ellery July
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices when did blackberry become fully functional outlook. Can I now update my calendar and setup a meeting with others? -Original Message-From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:59 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin

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2001-12-11 Thread Jim Holmgren
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices Sure...with the Wireless Calendar conduit in version 2.1 (I believe) of the client software you can respond to meeting requests and update your calendar. -Jim -Original Message-From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11

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2001-12-11 Thread Ellery July
Well I looked at these for organizational use and let me first state we ended up Compaq 1500 then 3645 B/W PocketPC but I use a Jornada for myself. The difference between B/W Pocket and palms are not that great. If all you want is a portable outlook then either will work OK. You can get Palm

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2001-12-11 Thread Jim Holmgren
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices ooops...forgot to paste in the link... http://www.blackberry.net/solutions/calendar/index.shtml -Original Message-From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 3:29 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Palm

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2001-12-11 Thread Ellery July
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices No I mean create a meeting request. Either way I have used a Blackberry and frankly hate then. The only tech item I have come to hate. They are being sold via lots of misinformation. -Original Message-From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

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2001-12-11 Thread Ellery July
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices I tried to initiate meeting requests and the BB people told me that they were still working on it - yet sold me the product knowing I needed that. They also lied to me about coverage area and monthly costs. -Original Message-From: Jim Holmgren

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2001-12-11 Thread Matt Moore
- Original Message - From: Ellery July [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:30 PM Subject: RE: Palm Pilot Devices Well I looked at these for organizational use and let me first state we ended up Compaq 1500 then 3645 B/W

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2001-12-11 Thread Jim Holmgren
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices hmmm...sorry for your bad experience. I've never used one to initiate a meeting request (fortunately I don't go to many meetings) but many of my users have done so without problems. Their tech-support has been relatively good on the few occasions I've had

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2001-12-11 Thread John Matteson
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices Point of order: The "Skunkworks" were part of Lockheed Martin, not NASA. Just thought you'd like to know. -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 1:50 PMTo: MS-Exch

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2001-12-11 Thread Micciche, Robert
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices I did know. -Original Message-From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 3:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Palm Pilot Devices Point of order: The "Skunkworks" were part o

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2001-12-11 Thread Lefkovics, William
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices Oh we didn't even go there! Then there's peoplewho administer their exchange server using a terminal services client on their pocketPClounging intheir cabin in the wilds of Washington state Can't do that with a Blackberry. -Original Message-From

RE: Palm Pilot Devices

2001-12-11 Thread David N Precht
. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Palm Pilot Devices hmmm...sorry for your bad experience. I've never used one to initiate a meeting request (fortunately I

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2001-12-11 Thread Matt Moore
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices can't do a lot of things with a BB. I see them as nothing more than a spiffy pager that saves cell time. Matt - Original Message - From: Lefkovics, William To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:48 PM

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2001-12-11 Thread Kevin Miller
-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Palm Pilot Devices Oh we didn't even go there! Then there's peoplewho administer their exchange server using a terminal services client on their pocketPClounging intheir cabin in the wilds of Washington state Can't do that with a Blackberry

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2001-12-11 Thread David N Precht
: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Palm Pilot Devices Oh we didn't even go there! Then there's people who administer their exchange server using a terminal services client on their pocketPC lounging in their cabin in the wilds of Washington

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2001-12-11 Thread Lefkovics, William
IssuesSubject: RE: Palm Pilot Devices You forgot to add that i like to do that from the hot tub on the deck... : --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE, CKST, HWPHHIICP -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:48 PMTo

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2001-12-11 Thread Jim Holmgren
3:59 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Palm Pilot Devices You forgot to add that i like to do that from the hot tub on the deck... : --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE, CKST, HWPHHIICP -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL

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2001-12-11 Thread Kelly_Borndale
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2001-12-11 Thread bill . higgins
Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Palm Pilot Devices I was setting you up for the neener neener neener punch. Blackberry's were great, but they are no longer worth it, in my opinion. -Original Message-From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001

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2001-12-11 Thread Lefkovics, William
Title: Message From my understanding, they are not so good in cold weather, either. Right, Kevin? -Original Message-From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 1:05 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Palm Pilot Devices sigh that's all I

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2001-12-11 Thread Kevin Miller
: RE: Palm Pilot Devices sigh that's all I need: (L)user: "Hello MIS department? Yes I need a new pocketPC, mine is broken - why didn'tanyone tell me these aren't waterproof!!" -Original Message-From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, D

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2001-12-11 Thread Kelly_Borndale
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2001-12-11 Thread Kevin Miller
: RE: Palm Pilot Devices I was setting you up for the neener neener neener punch. Blackberry's were great, but they are no longer worth it, in my opinion. -Original Message-From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:59 PMTo: MS

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2001-12-11 Thread Ellery July
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices I actually used my Jornada TC and wireless home system on Thanksgiving to change something on myphone systemserver. -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange

RE: Palm Pilot Devices

2001-12-11 Thread Kevin Miller
-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Palm Pilot Devices From my understanding, they are not so good in cold weather, either. Right, Kevin? -Original Message-From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 1:05 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin

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2001-12-11 Thread Clark, Steve
]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Palm Pilot Devices My IPAQ hates the cold.. it has to sleep in the bag with me on hiking trips... --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE, CKST, HWPHHIICP -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William

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2001-12-11 Thread Micciche, Robert
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices Thanks for scaring me guys. I just ordered the server, BB software and 5 units. I will say this much though: I have talked to MANY IT people and most of them swear that Blackberry is one of the greatest Email "toys" ever invented. Guess

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2001-12-11 Thread Kevin Miller
, UCC+WCA, CKWSE, CKST, HWPHHIICP -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 1:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Palm Pilot Devices Thanks for scaring me guys. I just ordered the server, BB software

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2001-12-11 Thread David N Precht
PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Palm Pilot Devices sigh that's all I need: (L)user: Hello MIS department? Yes I need a new pocketPC, mine is broken - why didn't anyone tell me these aren't waterproof!! -Original Message

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2001-12-11 Thread Ray Zorz
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices It is a good e-mail toy. The other devices have just caught up and surpassed. -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Palm Pilot

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2001-12-11 Thread Micciche, Robert
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices Only reason I didn't make a firm stance on Pocket PC 2002 was that Blackberry has the "Push" technology. Executive staff demanded that they were pushed hot messages immediately. With the Pocket PC and VPN they would have to connect and

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2001-12-11 Thread Ellery July
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices Email Toyare the important words. -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 3:18 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Palm Pilot Devices Thanks for scaring me guys. I just

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2001-12-11 Thread Matt Moore
Title: RE: Palm Pilot Devices You'll be just fine. the BB is certainly not a pocket pc. but it is a damn cool pager. and good for testing email when on site with a client. one word of caution set them to vibrate so they don't beep. And don't pull the quick draw routine with it, when talking

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2001-12-11 Thread Arnold, Jamie
Title: Message wellthat's justwrong -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 3:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Palm Pilot Devices Oh we didn't even go there! Then there's

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2001-12-11 Thread Lefkovics, William
Title: Message The same would stand for PocketPC. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 1:05 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Palm Pilot Devices Palm Pilot w/celluar modem, Cisco VPN client, SSH client

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2001-12-11 Thread David N. Precht
Title: Message Very good point ! -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 16:26To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Palm Pilot Devices Only reason I didn't make a firm stance on Pocket PC 2002

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2001-12-11 Thread Keith Nelson
My biggest problem with palm is the sync software was a pain to setup on a secured Win2k workstation. You have to have admin privilages to install, as it should be, but then you have to move shortcuts and other stuff to the All Users profile. I have moved everyone I could off of Palm and onto