Re: [exim] Need to generate a reject message with correct headers

2006-02-06 Thread Bill Hacker
Philip Hazel wrote: On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Kenevel wrote: Following on from this, surely the VERP section in the documentation needs revisiting if setting return_path is redundant? I have not followed the details of this thread, but, for a message delivered over SMTP, you can change the

Re: [exim] Need to generate a reject message with correct headers

2006-02-06 Thread Philip Hazel
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Bill Hacker wrote: Hmmm how about web-alizing those 'as is' in one iFrame, and putting the old-style 'topic/ alphabetical director' index in the a side bar in another frame? Created by an external process? I'm sure that Nigel, who was hoping to think more about the

Re: [exim] Need to generate a reject message with correct headers

2006-02-03 Thread Philip Hazel
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, Marc Sherman wrote: You should set the VERP return path in your verp_outbound_router using errors_to, instead of using return_path on the verp_smtp transport. Philip, should the docs in chapter 44.3 be changed to suggest this? Noted to think about next time the docs are

Re: [exim] Need to generate a reject message with correct headers

2006-02-03 Thread Kenevel
Philip Hazel wrote: On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, Marc Sherman wrote: You should set the VERP return path in your verp_outbound_router using errors_to, instead of using return_path on the verp_smtp transport. Philip, should the docs in chapter 44.3 be changed to suggest this? Noted to think about

Re: [exim] Need to generate a reject message with correct headers

2006-02-03 Thread Jakob Hirsch
Kenevel wrote: Is there a way of avoiding having to maintain identical code in two different places? I have only errors_to set in my VERP router. You only need return_path in the transport if you want to override errors_to. The errors_to address is saved in $return_path, btw. -- ## List

Re: [exim] Need to generate a reject message with correct headers

2006-02-03 Thread Jeremy Harris
Kenevel wrote: Is there a way of avoiding having to maintain identical code in two different places? A macro. - Jeremy -- ## List details at http://www.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## Please use the Wiki with this list -

Re: [exim] Need to generate a reject message with correct headers

2006-02-03 Thread Kenevel
Jakob Hirsch wrote: Kenevel wrote: Is there a way of avoiding having to maintain identical code in two different places? I have only errors_to set in my VERP router. You only need return_path in the transport if you want to override errors_to. The errors_to address is saved in

Re: [exim] Need to generate a reject message with correct headers

2006-02-03 Thread Philip Hazel
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Kenevel wrote: Following on from this, surely the VERP section in the documentation needs revisiting if setting return_path is redundant? I have not followed the details of this thread, but, for a message delivered over SMTP, you can change the return path *either* by an

Re: [exim] Need to generate a reject message with correct headers

2006-02-02 Thread Marc Sherman
Kenevel wrote: Hi there, I've tried the suggested solution of using VERP but am having no luck testing it. I must be doing something wrong as although I can see that the return_path has been set correctly, in that it has the VERP-mangled local_part, the failure notification which is

Re: [exim] Need to generate a reject message with correct headers

2006-02-02 Thread Jeff
snipped PS: the FTP link to the VERP text available here (http://exim.org/exim-html-4.60/doc/html/spec.html/ch44.html#id2685805) doesn't seem to work for me; Google suggests http://cr.yp.to/proto/verp.txt Looks like its just the id numbers have been updated..

Re: [exim] Need to generate a reject message with correct headers

2006-02-02 Thread Kenevel
Marc Sherman wrote: Can you please resend with a clear explanation of what you are trying to achieve, I would like to take advantage of the VERP system of addressing to identify unavialable mailboxes, and capture any failure notifications in a local mailbox which, to be read by a different

Re: [exim] Need to generate a reject message with correct headers

2006-02-02 Thread Kenevel
I stumbled across the errors_to router option and used it to deliver the local non-SMTP message to the correct mailbox. Do you think it would be worth including this in the documentation about VERP as well as in the common config page

Re: [exim] Need to generate a reject message with correct headers

2006-02-02 Thread Marc Sherman
Kenevel wrote: verp_smtp: driver = smtp max_rcpt = 1 return_path = ${if match [EMAIL PROTECTED] See the documentation for the return_path transport option: Note: If a delivery error is detected locally, including the case when a remote server rejects a message at SMTP time, the

Re: [exim] Need to generate a reject message with correct headers

2006-02-02 Thread Jeremy Harris
Kenevel wrote: Firstly, I do not want to have the emails appear to originate at a real mailbox to which addressees can reply. This means that anyone doing sender-verification will refuse your mails. - Jeremy -- ## List details at http://www.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users ## Exim

Re: [exim] Need to generate a reject message with correct headers

2006-02-02 Thread W B Hacker
Kenevel wrote: Marc Sherman wrote: Can you please resend with a clear explanation of what you are trying to achieve, I would like to take advantage of the VERP system of addressing to identify unavialable mailboxes, and capture any failure notifications in a local mailbox which, to be read

Re: [exim] Need to generate a reject message with correct headers

2006-02-01 Thread Marc Sherman
Kenevel wrote: I have a Java web-app through which a club administrator can send out an invite to someone via email. The reply-to address is currently set to a noreply, non-existent mailbox, so if someone does try to reply, their email should bounce and they should be aware that this has

Re: [exim] Need to generate a reject message with correct headers

2006-02-01 Thread Kenevel
Hi Marc, The club would be a sports club and the invitees would be its players. In the sense that the players want to manage their availability through my site they are solicited. The club managers inevitably have distribution lists for their club members and the site provides a means for them

Re: [exim] Need to generate a reject message with correct headers

2006-02-01 Thread Kenevel
Hi Marc, No problem about the grilling. Kenevel is a nickname I picked up at uni on account of having a motorbike. I use this address to subscribe to mailing lists and registering on websites. Thanks for the pointer, I think I'll have to read it a few times before it sinks in. Cheers Mike

Re: [exim] Need to generate a reject message with correct headers

2006-02-01 Thread Kenevel
Hi there, I've tried the suggested solution of using VERP but am having no luck testing it. I must be doing something wrong as although I can see that the return_path has been set correctly, in that it has the VERP-mangled local_part, the failure notification which is returned has none of this