Re: [exim] Sender verification failing sometimes

2011-06-15 Thread Ian Eiloart
On 14 Jun 2011, at 12:50, W B Hacker wrote: Is that true? I've not experienced it, in several years. It might not be obvious *why* one's server was rejected - and need not be an LBL. Right, but it might be obvious *whether* my mail has been rejected. -- Ian Eiloart Postmaster,

Re: [exim] Sender verification failing sometimes

2011-06-15 Thread W B Hacker
Ian Eiloart wrote: On 14 Jun 2011, at 12:50, W B Hacker wrote: Is that true? I've not experienced it, in several years. It might not be obvious *why* one's server was rejected - and need not be an LBL. Right, but it might be obvious *whether* my mail has been rejected. ..there is

Re: [exim] Sender verification failing sometimes

2011-06-15 Thread W B Hacker
W B Hacker wrote: Ian Eiloart wrote: On 14 Jun 2011, at 12:50, W B Hacker wrote: Is that true? I've not experienced it, in several years. It might not be obvious *why* one's server was rejected - and need not be an LBL. Right, but it might be obvious *whether* my mail has been

Re: [exim] Sender verification failing sometimes

2011-06-15 Thread Ian Eiloart
On 15 Jun 2011, at 16:32, W B Hacker wrote: Or time-out a sender_verify callout.. I have, very rarely, seen an issue where the callout target delayed a response for longer than the original sender's smtp timeout. Not in the past few years, though. However, that would probably mean that a

Re: [exim] Sender verification failing sometimes

2011-06-14 Thread Ian Eiloart
On 14 Jun 2011, at 05:24, Phil Pennock wrote: On 2011-06-13 at 00:32 +, Michael Jimenez wrote: So I've been looking at my mail server mainlog for the past couple of days watching mail come in and out, I've noticed that this Microsoft address keeps failing to verify: You're using

Re: [exim] Sender verification failing sometimes

2011-06-14 Thread W B Hacker
Ian Eiloart wrote: On 14 Jun 2011, at 05:24, Phil Pennock wrote: On 2011-06-13 at 00:32 +, Michael Jimenez wrote: So I've been looking at my mail server mainlog for the past couple of days watching mail come in and out, I've noticed that this Microsoft address keeps failing to verify:

Re: [exim] Sender verification failing sometimes

2011-06-14 Thread Marc Perkel
On 6/14/2011 3:21 AM, Ian Eiloart wrote: On 14 Jun 2011, at 05:24, Phil Pennock wrote: On 2011-06-13 at 00:32 +, Michael Jimenez wrote: So I've been looking at my mail server mainlog for the past couple of days watching mail come in and out, I've noticed that this Microsoft address

Re: [exim] Sender verification failing sometimes

2011-06-14 Thread Zoe (Medway Hosting)
- Original Message - From: Ian Eiloart i...@sussex.ac.uk To: exim-users@exim.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [exim] Sender verification failing sometimes You're using sender *callout* verification to systems not under your administrative control

Re: [exim] Sender verification failing sometimes

2011-06-14 Thread Graeme Fowler
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 00:24 -0400, Phil Pennock wrote: You're using sender *callout* verification to systems not under your administrative control. Really? Not necessarily. Using deny !verify = sender results in: RCPT TO:gra...@graemef.net 550-Verification failed for

Re: [exim] Sender verification failing sometimes

2011-06-14 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2011-06-14 at 20:58 +0100, Graeme Fowler wrote: On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 00:24 -0400, Phil Pennock wrote: You're using sender *callout* verification to systems not under your administrative control. Really? Not necessarily. Not necessarily, but highly likely given that the address which

Re: [exim] Sender verification failing sometimes

2011-06-14 Thread Ted Cooper
On 15/06/11 01:40, Marc Perkel wrote: It's one of those things that could be true depending on how you have things configured. I use sender verification callouts myself without any problems. but I use them after a lot of other tests to reduce the number of callouts I have to do. The real

Re: [exim] Sender verification failing sometimes

2011-06-14 Thread W B Hacker
Ted Cooper wrote: *snip* I've had two single domain machines obliterated by sender callouts and a joe job. Being a small operator on the end of a multi-million (billion?) email callout bomb is a case of throwing up your arms in surrender and simply shutting down the server until the attack

Re: [exim] Sender verification failing sometimes

2011-06-14 Thread Marc Perkel
On 6/14/2011 6:02 PM, Ted Cooper wrote: On 15/06/11 01:40, Marc Perkel wrote: It's one of those things that could be true depending on how you have things configured. I use sender verification callouts myself without any problems. but I use them after a lot of other tests to reduce the number

Re: [exim] Sender verification failing sometimes

2011-06-14 Thread Ted Cooper
On 15/06/11 11:42, W B Hacker wrote: 'Obliterated'? You must have one Helluva good backbone for things to degenerate to that sad sate of affairs. ;-) You'd be surprised how many logs you get from millions of connections when you're only set for maybe a thousand a day, of which 50 are

Re: [exim] Sender verification failing sometimes

2011-06-14 Thread Marc Perkel
On 6/14/2011 8:16 PM, Ted Cooper wrote: Cutting a long story short, the /var drive ran out of room and services started dying off because of it. The machine was running (no smoke pouring out of it), but wasn't really doing anything but printing messages to the console about how upset it was.

Re: [exim] Sender verification failing sometimes

2011-06-14 Thread W B Hacker
Ted Cooper wrote: On 15/06/11 11:42, W B Hacker wrote: 'Obliterated'? You must have one Helluva good backbone for things to degenerate to that sad sate of affairs. ;-) You'd be surprised how many logs you get from millions of connections when you're only set for maybe a thousand a day, of

Re: [exim] Sender verification failing sometimes

2011-06-14 Thread Bill Hayles
Hi, Marc On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:28:18 -0700 in message number 4df834e2.7060...@perkel.com, received here on 15/06/2011 07:17:29, Marc Perkel m...@perkel.com said: Drifting even more off topic You do know you can get a 2 terabyte drive for $75 these days. :) Actually, when it comes to

[exim] Sender verification failing sometimes

2011-06-13 Thread Michael Jimenez
So I've been looking at my mail server mainlog for the past couple of days watching mail come in and out, I've noticed that this Microsoft address keeps failing to verify: 2011-06-12 23:17:08 H=servera02.blusmtp.msn.com (servera02.blusmtpg.msn.com) [65.55.238.141] sender verify fail for

Re: [exim] Sender verification failing sometimes

2011-06-13 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2011-06-13 at 00:32 +, Michael Jimenez wrote: So I've been looking at my mail server mainlog for the past couple of days watching mail come in and out, I've noticed that this Microsoft address keeps failing to verify: You're using sender *callout* verification to systems not under