[expert] Problem: Fwd: Cron root@xxxxxx nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.daily

2003-09-23 Thread caret
Hi everybody, I am receiving this mail. Anybody knows where the problem may be? I am using LM 9.1 with oficial updates. Thanks, Oscar. -- Mensaje reenviado -- Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.daily Date: Martes, 23 de Septiembre de 2003 04:11

RE: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders

2003-09-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 22:24, Frankie wrote: I think many many people got started on Redhat because it came bundled with dozens of linux in 24 hours, linux for dummies etc, type books.. I'd really love to see mandrake in those books, I wonder what they'd have to do to get that sort of

Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders

2003-09-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 1:11 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Monday 22 September 2003 09:45 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 22 Sep 2003 2:33 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: BTW, from what I read elsewhere, I doubt that your mother/grandmother would be able to install any breed of Windows

Re: [expert] grub-install won't

2003-09-23 Thread Rolf Pedersen
Felix Miata wrote: For reasons I won't get into, I had to reinstall 9.1 today. Ever since I first discovered it more than two years ago, I've used grub exclusively as my boot loader. During this install, as on the same machine about three months ago, I specified grub during installation. During

Re: [expert] Re: 9.2RC2 on VMware

2003-09-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 22 Sep 2003 11:01 pm, Norman Zhang wrote: Hi Anne, Hi, Norman. Sorry you had problems. I've put it on the page, and attributed it to NormZ - I presume that's you? Yeah that's me thanks. BTW, just some nitpicking--VMWare should be spelled as VMware. Perhaps you may want to

Re: [expert] Re: 9.2RC2 on VMware

2003-09-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 02:30, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 22 Sep 2003 11:01 pm, Norman Zhang wrote: Hi Anne, Hi, Norman. Sorry you had problems. I've put it on the page, and attributed it to NormZ - I presume that's you? Yeah that's me thanks. BTW, just some nitpicking--VMWare

Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders

2003-09-23 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:24:35 +0800 Frankie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think many many people got started on Redhat because it came bundled with dozens of linux in 24 hours, linux for dummies etc, type books.. I'd really love to see mandrake in those books, I wonder what they'd have to do

Re: [expert] Re: 9.2RC2 on VMware

2003-09-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 10:36 am, James Sparenberg wrote: Anne, In the Twiki if you want something not normally a link to become a link do this [[this is now a link]] I have seen this in Augustin's work, but didn't understand what it is doing. If you want something that TWiki picks

Re: [expert] grub-install won't

2003-09-23 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 23 September 2003 04:33 am, Rolf Pedersen wrote: FWIW, /dev/hda has 22 partitions. IIRC, it had 19 when I last installed 9.1 on it. It has 255hd, 63s, cyl, units = 16065 * 512 on a PIIX4 00:07.1 controller. A NEC ehci USB 2.0 PCI host was added since last install. Is

[expert] Postfix with SASL

2003-09-23 Thread Thomas Deutsch
Hi Since three weeks, I tried to get SASL and Postfix working together. Since the last evening it works, but not really how I will. The problem is, that SASL will use the /etc/sasldb to authenticate the users, but I want to use pwcheck. But no of the Howtos I've found on the net has helped

Re: [expert] Postfix with SASL

2003-09-23 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
echAm Dienstag, 23. September 2003 13:58 schrieb Thomas Deutsch: Hi Since three weeks, I tried to get SASL and Postfix working together. Since the last evening it works, but not really how I will. The problem is, that SASL will use the /etc/sasldb to authenticate the users, but I want to

Re: [expert] Postfix with SASL

2003-09-23 Thread Thomas Deutsch
Martin Fahrendorf wrote: Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003 13:58 schrieb Thomas Deutsch: Hi Since three weeks, I tried to get SASL and Postfix working together. Since the last evening it works, but not really how I will. The problem is, that SASL will use the /etc/sasldb to authenticate the users,

Re: [expert] Postfix with SASL

2003-09-23 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003 14:32 schrieb Thomas Deutsch: [...] I've tested it with remove the hole sasldb file. But it don't work. How can I remove the useres from the sasldb? saslpasswd -d Use saslauthd instead of pwcheck. It don't work. Hm, try to unchroot your postfix. Postfix

Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders

2003-09-23 Thread Jack Coates
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 02:39, Lee Wiggers wrote: On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:24:35 +0800 Frankie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think many many people got started on Redhat because it came bundled with dozens of linux in 24 hours, linux for dummies etc, type books.. I'd really love to see

Re: [expert] Postfix with SASL

2003-09-23 Thread Thomas Deutsch
Martin Fahrendorf wrote: Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003 14:32 schrieb Thomas Deutsch: [...] I've tested it with remove the hole sasldb file. But it don't work. How can I remove the useres from the sasldb? saslpasswd -d Thx, my sasldb is now empty. Use saslauthd instead of pwcheck. It don't

[expert] Mandrake 9.2

2003-09-23 Thread Lawson, Jim
Request that prelude be put back in Mandrake 9.2 James S. Lawson Network Manager Brown Raysman Millstein Felder Steiner 900 Third Avenue New York, NY 10022 Tel: (212) 895-2679 (@ @) oOO--(_)--OOo- Notice: This

Re: [expert] Postfix with SASL

2003-09-23 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003 15:31 schrieb Thomas Deutsch: Martin Fahrendorf wrote: Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003 14:32 schrieb Thomas Deutsch: [...] I've tested it with remove the hole sasldb file. But it don't work. How can I remove the useres from the sasldb? saslpasswd -d

Re: [expert] Postfix with SASL

2003-09-23 Thread Thomas Deutsch
Martin Fahrendorf wrote: Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003 15:31 schrieb Thomas Deutsch: [...] so you have un-chrooted the wron line. search something like smtp unix - - n - - smtp (remeber the missing d at the end). Yes. I've now changed the y to n. Is it

[expert] openssh-3.7p1 Mandy 9.0

2003-09-23 Thread Ricardo (Tru64 User)
Hi ALL, I have a problem with openssh-3.7p1 working on Mandy. It compiles fine, and I perform an install (on /opt/openssh-3.7p1). I can start it fine (link it up to /etc/init.d/..blah blah), so service ssh restart starts it OK. Problem is that then no-one can log in. Keeps complaining about bad

[expert] xdm on two ips?

2003-09-23 Thread Ricardo (Tru64 User)
Greetings, I have xdmcp running on my mandy 9.0, and using exceed on the desktop. Problem is it only advertises itself on the primary interface, while i have 2 NIC (2 separate networks). Is this the default behaviour, and if so, where can I allow both ips to be utilized? _Thanks once again in

Re: [expert] Mandrake 9.2

2003-09-23 Thread ed tharp
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 09:35, Lawson, Jim wrote: Request that prelude be put back in Mandrake 9.2 James S. Lawson Network Manager Brown Raysman Millstein Felder Steiner 900 Third Avenue New York, NY 10022 Tel: (212) 895-2679 A little late for that bud,,, but you 'should' be able to urpmi

Re: [expert] openssh-3.7p1 Mandy 9.0

2003-09-23 Thread Jack Coates
did you build it with pam support? Another trick is to get Mandrake's src.rpm and ivh it, then read the spec file to get any configure options or patches that they're using. Jack On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 06:51, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: Hi ALL, I have a problem with openssh-3.7p1 working on

[expert] keeping track of ack no

2003-09-23 Thread a . ranu
hi, i am writing a module that clamps the tcp receiver window size... i need to be able to tell when slow start ends, but at the receiver... so i need to be able to keep track of when 3 duplicate acknowledgements are sent out by the receiver... what info in the kernel do i access to do

Re: [expert] grub-install won't

2003-09-23 Thread Felix Miata
Rolf Pedersen wrote: Felix Miata wrote: How do I get grub back? FWIW, /dev/hda has 22 partitions. IIRC, it had 19 when I last installed 9.1 on it. It has 255hd, 63s, cyl, units = 16065 * 512 on a PIIX4 00:07.1 controller. A NEC ehci USB 2.0 PCI host was added since last

Re: [expert] Re: 9.2RC2 on VMware / TWIKI-ing

2003-09-23 Thread Eric Huff
Yeah that's me thanks. BTW, just some nitpicking--VMWare should be spelled as VMware. Perhaps you may want to change that too? http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/VmWare In the Twiki if you want something not normally a link to become a link do this [[this is now a link]]

Re: [expert] grub-install won't

2003-09-23 Thread Felix Miata
Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 23 September 2003 04:33 am, Rolf Pedersen wrote: Is grub installed w/o problem (rpm -V grub)? If it is and you did not re-partition for the re-install, there should be /boot/grub/install.sh and you could try: sh /boot/grub/install.sh If your partitions

Re: [expert] Re: 9.2RC2 on VMware / TWIKI-ing

2003-09-23 Thread Vincent Danen
On Tue Sep 23, 2003 at 08:35:13AM -0700, Eric Huff wrote: Yeah that's me thanks. BTW, just some nitpicking--VMWare should be spelled as VMware. Perhaps you may want to change that too? http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/VmWare In the Twiki if you want something not

Re: [expert] openssh-3.7p1 Mandy 9.0

2003-09-23 Thread Vincent Danen
On Tue Sep 23, 2003 at 06:51:53AM -0700, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: [..] greatest out there, and YES, i know Mandrake has released an rpm patch for 3.6p1. But, with our internal scan, anything running a version identified as vulnerable, even if patched, is flagged. So i have always used

[expert] ifplugd

2003-09-23 Thread Lawson, Jim
Okay I read an article to say this is gaysh I have to agree. The response was windows has it so should Linux. Okay well for one windows does have it and it works when the network comes up it comes up. In mandrake 9.1 if the network comes up it stays down until a reboot. This is a real Pain I have

Re: [expert] grub-install won't

2003-09-23 Thread Rolf Pedersen
Felix Miata wrote: Rolf Pedersen wrote: Felix Miata wrote: How do I get grub back? FWIW, /dev/hda has 22 partitions. IIRC, it had 19 when I last installed 9.1 on it. It has 255hd, 63s, cyl, units = 16065 * 512 on a PIIX4 00:07.1 controller. A NEC ehci USB 2.0 PCI host was added since

Re: [expert] openssh-3.7p1 Mandy 9.0

2003-09-23 Thread Vincent Danen
On Tue Sep 23, 2003 at 09:52:53AM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: [..] greatest out there, and YES, i know Mandrake has released an rpm patch for 3.6p1. But, with our internal scan, anything running a version identified as vulnerable, even if patched, is flagged. So i have always used

Re: [expert] Re: 9.2RC2 on VMware / TWIKI-ing

2003-09-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 4:50 pm, Vincent Danen wrote: On Tue Sep 23, 2003 at 08:35:13AM -0700, Eric Huff wrote: Yeah that's me thanks. BTW, just some nitpicking--VMWare should be spelled as VMware. Perhaps you may want to change that too?

Re: [expert] TWIKI-ing, was 9.2RC2 on VMware

2003-09-23 Thread Eric Huff
And only WikiWords work with the treeview commands. Sooo, a page named VmWare works, VMware doesn't. Right, but that's only for the page. You can use something like this: [[VmWare][VMware]] which will link to the page VmWare but will display VMware to the browser (but will still be

Re: [expert] ifplugd

2003-09-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 4:59 pm, Lawson, Jim wrote: I think someone should document this. It was a real pain in finding the answer. And who better than you? Linux is a collaborative OS. BTW, could you manage to lose the legal footnote on your list posts? Many people are on dial-up and

Re: [expert] openssh-3.7p1 Mandy 9.0

2003-09-23 Thread Ricardo (Tru64 User)
Thanks. Mmmh.hard keeping up, but i like my Mandy box, and the only way to keep it is comply with policiesI dont make them unfortunately --- Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue Sep 23, 2003 at 09:52:53AM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: [..] greatest out there,

Re: [expert] WORKS: BenQ DC-2410 Digital camera

2003-09-23 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Cool, it's in On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 15:01, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 20 Sep 2003 12:35 pm, Guy Van Sanden wrote: Hello I asked on this list if the BenQ DC-2410 worked on Linux. Well, I got a salesman to call BenQ and they confirmed that the camera is USB-Mass-storage, so I bought

RE: [expert] ifplugd

2003-09-23 Thread Lawson, Jim
Please tell me where I will. -Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] ifplugd On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 4:59 pm, Lawson, Jim wrote: I think someone should document this. It was a

Re: [expert] TWIKI-ing, was 9.2RC2 on VMware

2003-09-23 Thread Vincent Danen
On Tue Sep 23, 2003 at 09:26:14AM -0700, Eric Huff wrote: And only WikiWords work with the treeview commands. Sooo, a page named VmWare works, VMware doesn't. Right, but that's only for the page. You can use something like this: [[VmWare][VMware]] which will link to the page

[expert] APM problem

2003-09-23 Thread phriedrich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've a problem with the APM standby mode on Mandrake 9.1... With the new 2.4.22-9mm-kernel ACPI doesn't work on my machine (HP A872, Via Apollo Pro) so I decided to use APM... So far so good, I compiled new without ACPI but with APM, and APM

Re: [expert] ifplugd

2003-09-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 6:02 pm, Lawson, Jim wrote: Please tell me where I will. How about http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/NetWorking ? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go

Re: [expert] Mandrake 9.2

2003-09-23 Thread J.C. Woods
ed tharp wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 09:35, Lawson, Jim wrote: Request that prelude be put back in Mandrake 9.2 James S. Lawson Network Manager Brown Raysman Millstein Felder Steiner 900 Third Avenue New York, NY 10022 Tel: (212) 895-2679 A little late for that bud,,, but you 'should'

RE: [expert] Mandrake 9.2

2003-09-23 Thread Lawson, Jim
Thanks I did. Wanted prelude also. -Original Message- From: J.C. Woods [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 1:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake 9.2 ed tharp wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 09:35, Lawson, Jim wrote: Request that prelude

Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders

2003-09-23 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 09:33, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Monday 22 September 2003 07:52 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: whack That having been said, I still don't see this as being applicable to the discussion. Unless we are suggesting that Mandrake Linux is installable and configurable by an

[expert] Mandrake 9.1

2003-09-23 Thread Lawson, Jim
How do I disable the ctrl,alt and delete from the keyboard to keep the box from rebooting. James S. Lawson Network Manager Brown Raysman Millstein Felder Steiner 900 Third Avenue New York, NY 10022 Tel: (212) 895-2679 (@ @)

Re: [expert] Mandrake 9.1

2003-09-23 Thread Vox
On September 1993 plus 3674 days Jim Lawson wrote: How do I disable the ctrl,alt and delete from the keyboard to keep the box from rebooting. Edit your /etc/inittab so the command passed by that key combination is something different than shutdown -r now...I normally change it to

[expert] sarg errors mandrake 9.1

2003-09-23 Thread Lawson, Jim
When sarg runs I get this any Ideas? sh: line 1: /var/www/html/squid-reports: Is a directory SARG: (report) Cannot open file: /var/www/html/squid-reports # Mandrake version/2003Sep22-2003Sep22/periodo James S. Lawson Network Manager Brown Raysman Millstein Felder Steiner 900 Third Avenue New

Re: [expert] TWIKI-ing, was 9.2RC2 on VMware

2003-09-23 Thread chmod
Do you know how to make a new page w/o 1st typing it's wikiword in an existing page? That would make the process a little easier. Sure, but it's not a good idea. You want to have the wiki word in a page so it properly links to a parent page. But you can just do something like open your

[expert] 9.1 vs 9.2RC2 ???

2003-09-23 Thread Magnus Wirström
Hi everyone   During a power failure my 9.1 installation got trashed to beyond repairs. Strange because I was using XFS, But power was flickering for some secs before going out, probably messing XFS up. Anyway ... Now I have to reinstall Mandrake again and I am wondering if I should go with 9.1

Re: [expert] 9.1 vs 9.2RC2 ???

2003-09-23 Thread Bryan Whitehead
boot to a rescue disk, then run xfsrepair. you may not have todo anything morethan that to get your xfs fs working. Magnus Wirström wrote: Hi everyone During a power failure my 9.1 installation got trashed to beyond repairs. Strange because I was using XFS, But power was flickering for some

Re: [expert] 9.1 vs 9.2RC2 ???

2003-09-23 Thread J.P. Pasnak
=?iso-8859-1?q?Magnus=20Wirstr=F6m?= said: Hi everyone   During a power failure my 9.1 installation got trashed to beyond repairs. Strange because I was using XFS, But power was flickering for some secs before going out, probably messing XFS up. Anyway ... Now I have to reinstall Mandrake

Re: [expert] 9.1 vs 9.2RC2 ???

2003-09-23 Thread Magnus Wirström
Darn :( I have already tried to use 9.1 doing a upgrade in my system. I wonder if xfsrepair works now. I really wish I had known the existance of xfsrepair before :( I will try running it because I can boot into my system but that's about it. I really hope it can work ... Magnus --- Bryan

Re: [expert] Resolv.conf changing

2003-09-23 Thread Graeme J Hosking
Jack, Thank you for this tip (and also to Mark), switching off peerdns seems to have done the trick. Best regards, Graeme. -- Graeme J Hosking pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

[expert] gmplayer

2003-09-23 Thread Phil G.
I'm trying to get my wife off windows. One of the things she says she needs is the ability to watch video previews at netflix.com. I'm using gmplayer to play back the video (video/x-ms-asf) and it works fine. My only complaint is while the clip is downloading I can't use my pc - it locks up.

[expert] File access error fixed with mount -o remount ?

2003-09-23 Thread Bryan Whitehead
I have run across a problem with files that seem to become randomly broken but after a mount -o remount the files start working normally again. I emailed the lkml even tho the kernel is a distro kernel hoping someone has at least an idea on what area of the kernel would *most likley* cause

Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders

2003-09-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 11:19, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 09:33, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Monday 22 September 2003 07:52 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: whack That having been said, I still don't see this as being applicable to the discussion. Unless we are suggesting

RE: [expert] Mandrake 9.2

2003-09-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 11:06, Lawson, Jim wrote: Thanks I did. Wanted prelude also. -Original Message- From: J.C. Woods [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 1:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake 9.2 ed tharp wrote: On Tue,

Re: [expert] openssh-3.7p1 Mandy 9.0

2003-09-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 09:48, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: Thanks. Mmmh.hard keeping up, but i like my Mandy box, and the only way to keep it is comply with policiesI dont make them unfortunately Be glad you aren't running RH 7.3 boxes no support at all (too many

Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders

2003-09-23 Thread Vox
On September 1993 plus 3674 days James Sparenberg wrote: Anytime anyone says how easy windows is I give them one of two assignments. Setup networking,(win98,ME) or even more fun. Install a printer that uses a print server under win2000 or XP. Nah! much more fun...install a network card

Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders

2003-09-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 17:16, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3674 days James Sparenberg wrote: Anytime anyone says how easy windows is I give them one of two assignments. Setup networking,(win98,ME) or even more fun. Install a printer that uses a print server under win2000 or XP.

Re: [expert] 9.2 pre-orders

2003-09-23 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 23, 2003 08:13 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 17:16, Vox wrote: On September 1993 plus 3674 days James Sparenberg wrote: Anytime anyone says how easy windows is I give them one of two assignments. Setup

[expert] wma file conversion?

2003-09-23 Thread David E. Fox
Hello list, Anyone done this before? I was on vacation and managed to have my system automatically capture a radio show and save it off in mplayer's stream dump format, which it identifies as wma. I'm attempting to explode it into a wav suitable for burning, but I can't get the mencoder command

[expert] What is changing /etc/resolv.conf? (and Why?)

2003-09-23 Thread Felix Miata
In runlevel 2, only a valid nameserver entry is present in this file. However, in runlevel 3 or 5, something inserts ahead of the valid one, an additional one pointing to loopback. What does this, and why? -- ...[B]e quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry

Re: [expert] Postfix with SASL

2003-09-23 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003 15:49 schrieb Thomas Deutsch: Martin Fahrendorf wrote: Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003 15:31 schrieb Thomas Deutsch: [...] so you have un-chrooted the wron line. search something like smtp unix - - n - - smtp

Re: [expert] What is changing /etc/resolv.conf? (and Why?)

2003-09-23 Thread Todd Lyons
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Felix Miata wanted us to know: In runlevel 2, only a valid nameserver entry is present in this file. However, in runlevel 3 or 5, something inserts ahead of the valid one, an additional one pointing to loopback. What does this, and why? this is

Re: [expert] Postfix with SASL

2003-09-23 Thread Thomas Deutsch
Martin Fahrendorf wrote: Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003 15:49 schrieb Thomas Deutsch: Martin Fahrendorf wrote: Am Dienstag, 23. September 2003 15:31 schrieb Thomas Deutsch: [...] so you have un-chrooted the wron line. search something like smtp unix - - n - -

Re: [expert] TWIKI-ing, was 9.2RC2 on VMware

2003-09-23 Thread Eric Huff
I have one last question. Is there any way to invoke multiple %TREEVIEW% commands on one page? Maybe it is just a bug, but when i try, only the first one works. I looked around the twiki help, but didn't find an answer.. Well, i looked some more, and it does appear to be a bug: