[expert] is it possible for cracker to cover his track?

2003-10-23 Thread Fajar Priyanto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear all, Is it possible to erase activities in the bash_history file without being known? And also in wtmp? How is it possible? Thanks - -- Fajar http://linux.arinet.org Linux mdk91.sistek.kom 2.4.21-0.13mdk GNU/Linux 14:18:02 up 6:31, 11 users,

Re: [expert] msec and Directory permissions......

2003-10-23 Thread J.C. Woods
Ralph C wrote: Hi all, I have Bynari Insight Server installed and it installs everything inside /opt/is4/ directory as a chroot jail, where it runs it's own services like Postfix, Apache, Proftpd, etc... msec is changing the permissions. I need to make msec skip this directory and all sub dirs.

Re: [expert] Install issues with 9.2

2003-10-23 Thread KevinO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bill Dearing wrote: At this stage of the game, it's so disappointing to see this. I mean, anyone who has used Mandrake for any length of time knows that QA has never been their strong suite. I have noticed a bad trend the last couple of

Re: [expert] is it possible for cracker to cover his track?

2003-10-23 Thread KevinO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fajar Priyanto wrote: Dear all, Is it possible to erase activities in the bash_history file without being known? Sure: $ history -c $ vi ~/.bash_history And also in wtmp? Yes, just chmod the file(s) to make it writeable and modify it with an

Re: [expert] Mandrake releases bug fixes for MDK 9.2

2003-10-23 Thread KevinO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim Sawchuck wrote: My morning urpmi update on my 9.2 Cooker box had a TON of stuff (I don't use Gnome or KDE, just fluxbox) and I thought something was wrong.:-) Too many updates, can't be right - took me two more cups of coffee before I had the

Re: [expert] Increading /mnt/cdrom size?

2003-10-23 Thread turgut kalfaoglu
/mnt/cdrom *IS* your CD-ROM drive. its size varies depending on what type of CD you insert just then. to copy a CD, you can use a mkisofs or something to create an ISO out of it; or use the TAR or some other command to compress the whole thing into a file. -turgut Want to buy your Pack or

Re: [expert] Increading /mnt/cdrom size?

2003-10-23 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 04:40 pm, Kwan Lowe wrote: PS Is /mnt/cdrom using the size of /? Yes. /mnt/cdrom is just a directory on your root filesystem. Thanks, thats what I thought and it makes sense...so when /mnt/cdrom here is *not* mounted (when it is mounted, it shows the size of the

Re: [expert] Increading /mnt/cdrom size?

2003-10-23 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Thursday 23 October 2003 07:32 am, turgut kalfaoglu wrote: /mnt/cdrom *IS* your CD-ROM drive. its size varies depending on what type of CD you insert just then. to copy a CD, you can use a mkisofs or something to create an ISO out of it; or use the TAR or some other command to compress the

Re: [expert] Increading /mnt/cdrom size?

2003-10-23 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 10:36 pm, Eric Huff wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 04:40 pm, Kwan Lowe wrote: PS Is /mnt/cdrom using the size of /? Yes. /mnt/cdrom is just a directory on your root filesystem. You could make /mnt/game a symlink to a directory on your /home

Re: [expert] is it possible for cracker to cover his track?

2003-10-23 Thread Ricardo (Tru64 User)
Installing chkrootkit might be able to tell you when wtmp has something delete in it. I am saying might because there might be another way to cover that too. _Thanks Richard --- Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear all, Is it possible

Re: [expert] msec and Directory permissions......

2003-10-23 Thread Ralph Crpngeyer
Hi Jack, Thanks for the info. If I: edit /etc/security/msec/perm.local /opt/is4owner.group octalperms /opt/is4/* owner.group octalperms then (as per the second line) won't that change the owner.group octalperms ie. (775 for instance)for all of the sub dirs also? Remember

Re: [expert] msec and Directory permissions......

2003-10-23 Thread Jack Coates
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 07:33, Ralph Crpngeyer wrote: Hi Jack, Thanks for the info. If I: edit /etc/security/msec/perm.local /opt/is4 owner.group octalperms /opt/is4/*owner.group octalperms then (as per the second line) won't that change the owner.group octalperms

Re: [expert] is it possible for cracker to cover his track?

2003-10-23 Thread Jack Coates
.bash_history is cake; just kill -9 your own session instead of using logout or exit. wtmp is harder, that'll involve editing the logfiles. BTW, ssh has its own access log so check that one too for inconsistencies with wtmp. On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 00:20, Fajar Priyanto wrote: -BEGIN PGP

Re: [expert] is it possible for cracker to cover his track?

2003-10-23 Thread Jack Coates
all of those will update the atime though, leading to getting caught. You need something sneakier to do it right :-/ Phrack and 2600 are full of nice little howtos for this sort of thing, some of which are intensely technical. On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 01:06, KevinO wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: [expert] is it possible for cracker to cover his track?

2003-10-23 Thread Jack Coates
tripwire would be even better, but the best thing of all is a modified version of Mandrake's own secure scripts setup (which is copied from Debian). This is the script that sends you nightly emails about differences in network ports, packages, c.? Well, make a copy that runs every five or ten

Re: [expert] msec and Directory permissions......

2003-10-23 Thread Ralph Crpngeyer
Jack, Your right. The user.group for the entire jail is root.root only the file permissions are different. Also looking at /usr/share/msec/perm.5 the directory /opt is not touched at all. I think that something else must have been happening. I wasn't the only one with root access to this

[expert] Upgrade Path from 8.2

2003-10-23 Thread Ricardo (Tru64 User)
Hi All, I have a solid/stable 8.2 box working as a webserver. Since 8.2 is no longer supported, I imagine i have no choice but to upgrade (not that savvy to make my own update rpm's!) I want to throw 9.1 in there. Do i have to go in steps, 8.2 --9.0 --9.1 or simply throw 9.1 cd's and install

Re: [expert] msec and Directory permissions......

2003-10-23 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 23, 2003 09:36 am, Ralph Crpngeyer wrote: Jack, Your right. The user.group for the entire jail is root.root only the file permissions are different. Also looking at /usr/share/msec/perm.5 the directory /opt is not touched at all. I think

Re: [expert] Upgrade Path from 8.2

2003-10-23 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 23, 2003 10:14 am, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: Hi All, I have a solid/stable 8.2 box working as a webserver. Since 8.2 is no longer supported, I imagine i have no choice but to upgrade (not that savvy to make my own update rpm's!) I

Re: [expert] msec and Directory permissions......

2003-10-23 Thread Jack Coates
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 08:36, Ralph Crpngeyer wrote: Jack, Your right. The user.group for the entire jail is root.root only the file permissions are different. Also looking at /usr/share/msec/perm.5 the directory /opt is not touched at all. I think that something else must have been

Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-23 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 22, 2003 06:29 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 02:45 pm, Charlie M. wrote: Although the best security for Windows that I've found is the installer for Mandrake Linux and the Use Entire Disk option. (-; Wow, what

[expert] compiling kernel

2003-10-23 Thread Norman Zhang
Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading to 9.2 then compile my own kernels for the boxes. I'm thinking should I grab the latest source from www.kernel.org or should I use the source from Mandrake? Are there patches included in Mandrake's kernel source that are not in the mainline? I need XFS, ACL,

Re: [expert] compiling kernel

2003-10-23 Thread Praedor Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Use the Mandrake kernel-source. It does include things you wont find in the kernel.org kernel (supermount being one of them). I couldn't enumerate all the addons that Mandrake provides but it is worth it to use the official mandrake kernel-source

Re: [expert] 9.2 KDE screensavers

2003-10-23 Thread Hezekiah M. Carty
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 14:32, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 03:46 pm, Pedro Capiscol wrote: Hi friends. I upgrade from 9.1 to 9.2 and now I have no screensaver with KDE. I can see de screensavers in Gnome, and of course have installed the xscreensaver and xscreensaver-gl

Re: [expert] msec and Directory permissions......

2003-10-23 Thread Ralph Crongeyer
Thanks! I didn't even notice that I fat fingered my name. :-( Ralph Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 23, 2003 09:36 am, Ralph Crpngeyer wrote: Jack, Your right. The user.group for the entire jail is root.root only the file permissions

[expert] [export] DVD stuff

2003-10-23 Thread Rodrigo Sanchez Olavarria
Hello Experts .. I have a DVD writer... and I want to backup some big files, but cdrecord/cdrecord-dvdhack doesn't work ... (A error message related to image size, in the beginig of the process ..) am I using the rigth tool ? Rodrigo dgf.uchile Want to buy your Pack or Services from

Re: [expert] [export] DVD stuff

2003-10-23 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 23 October 2003 09:51 am, Rodrigo Sanchez Olavarria wrote: Hello Experts .. I have a DVD writer... and I want to backup some big files, but cdrecord/cdrecord-dvdhack doesn't work ... (A error message related to image size, in the beginig of the process ..) am I using the rigth

Re: [expert] msec and Directory permissions......

2003-10-23 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 23, 2003 11:46 am, Ralph Crongeyer wrote: Thanks! I didn't even notice that I fat fingered my name. :-( Ralph I think we all have those brain fart moments, don't we? My latest one was my son's e-mail address yesterday. I had him

[expert] Download and Powerpack editions

2003-10-23 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
This may be a stupid question and apologies if it is, but I just got the Powerpack edition in after a solid week of bittorrent downloading, and I'm wondering if there is any possible reason that I might need the Download edition. If there is something on the Download that's not in Powerpack, or

Re: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions

2003-10-23 Thread Markus Ueberall
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: I just got the Powerpack edition in after a solid week of bittorrent downloading, and I'm wondering if there is any possible reason that I might need the Download edition. I can't think of any -- in other words: you don't :) Ad astra, -- Dipl.-Inf.

Re: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions

2003-10-23 Thread Gonzalo Avaria
On Thursday 23 October 2003 19:36, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: If there is something on the Download that's not in Powerpack, or some other reason I might need Download, then I need to get started downloading as Bittorrent is going to keep me occupied for another week. I want to go ahead and serve my

RE: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions

2003-10-23 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)
It's OK to use bittorrent to download the powerpack if you're a silver member or above of MandrakeClub. That's how I got my copy. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gonzalo Avaria Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:54 AM To: [EMAIL

Re: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions

2003-10-23 Thread Gonzalo Avaria
Thanks, now i know that. Maybe in a few years i become silver, now i´m only a student with schoolarchip, so only can use the download edition. I apologize for the latest post. Greetings On Thursday 23 October 2003 19:57, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote: It's OK to use bittorrent to download

Re: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions

2003-10-23 Thread Vox
On September 1993 plus 3704 days Gonzalo Avaria wrote: On Thursday 23 October 2003 19:36, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: If there is something on the Download that's not in Powerpack, or some other reason I might need Download, then I need to get started downloading as Bittorrent is going to keep me

RE: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions

2003-10-23 Thread Jack Coates
cool! What's in powerpack that isn't in download? On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 12:57, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote: It's OK to use bittorrent to download the powerpack if you're a silver member or above of MandrakeClub. That's how I got my copy. David -Original Message- From:

RE: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions

2003-10-23 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)
Mostly proprietary drivers and what not that are installed automagically. I think it includes stuff like Flash and RealPlayer as well David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jack Coates Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 2:09 PM To:

RE: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions

2003-10-23 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 15:57, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote: It's OK to use bittorrent to download the powerpack if you're a silver member or above of MandrakeClub. That's how I got my copy. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of

Re: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions

2003-10-23 Thread Rolf Pedersen
Jack Coates wrote: cool! What's in powerpack that isn't in download? What's convenient for me is stuff like acroread, FlashPlayer, j2re for java plugin. I see RealPlayer, some modem drivers, nVidia, and ati video doodads I don't use. Rolf On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 12:57, JOHAM,DAVID

[expert] GAL

2003-10-23 Thread Richard Bown
Sorry if this gets duplicated , either this list is slow again or it got lost Hi all just starting to move apps over on to pc with a fresh install of 9.2. I've noticed a lot of apps and libs which were standard with 9.1, are no longer installed with 9.2. Doing battle trying to compile gal-0.23

[expert] GAL

2003-10-23 Thread Richard Bown
Hi all just starting to move apps over on to pc with a fresh install of 9.2. I've noticed a lot of apps and libs which were standard with 9.1, are no longer installed with 9.2. Doing battle trying to compile gal-0.23 which is need ed to run an app but I cant sort out what it looking for on the

Re: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions

2003-10-23 Thread Alfredo Cole
El Jueves, 23 de Octubre de 2003 10:53, Gonzalo Avaria escribió: (...) And you are using a P2P to download a pay distro??? I don´t think that´s correct to ask here... Sorry but don´t like this kind of posting. It's the only way for Mandrake Club Members to download it. If you know of a better

Re: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions

2003-10-23 Thread Gonzalo Avaria
Thanks, now i know that. Maybe in a few years i become silver, now i´m only a student with schoolarchip, so only can use the download edition. I apologize for the latest post. Greetings I'm posting this one again, maybe you were too much angry with me or anything else, but i would like to

Re: [expert] GAL

2003-10-23 Thread Praedor Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I believe that last line is indicating that it is looking for libxml. This would be provided by libxml-devel (or however mandrake names it, ie, libxml0-devel, libxml2-devel, etc...just do an rpm -qa|grep libxml and see what is already installed

Re: [expert] GAL

2003-10-23 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:34:34 +0100 Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can someone please point me in the right direction Well you listed what it was checking But what was the error that configure gave you. Charles -- Ninety percent of baseball is half mental. -- Yogi Berra

Re: [expert] Mandrake releases bug fixes for MDK 9.2

2003-10-23 Thread Glenn Burkhardt
On Thursday 23 October 2003 01:53 am, Michael Adams wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:20:17 + James Conner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those on the MDK security mailing list you will already know. For those that aren't, check the archives(it's too large to repost here). These updates

Re: [expert] GAL

2003-10-23 Thread Praedor Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 For that produce the last portion of the config.log file contents. praedor On Thursday 23 October 2003 11:49 am, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 21:34:34 +0100 Richard Bown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can someone please point me in

Re: [expert] GAL

2003-10-23 Thread Richard Bown
Thanks for the replies I'l try and load libxml and see if configure runs all the way thru TNX Richard On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 21:44, Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I believe that last line is indicating that it is looking for libxml. This would be

Re: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions

2003-10-23 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 15:48, Markus Ueberall wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: I just got the Powerpack edition in after a solid week of bittorrent downloading, and I'm wondering if there is any possible reason that I might need the Download edition. I can't think of

[expert] KDevelop Help

2003-10-23 Thread Theo Brinkman
I'm trying to get KDevelop completely set up for some development, but I'm having some problems. First, I can't seem to find some of the files it wants for various optional stuff like help, and project documentation. I'm looking for where to find RPMs that include the following: KDELibs-Doc

Re: [expert] Increading /mnt/cdrom size?

2003-10-23 Thread deedee
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:38:57 -0700, KevinO wrote: /mnt/cdrom is a real directory, until you mount something there. Since the /mnt directory is part of the / filesystem (not on a separate partition), its' size is limited to the free space available on / . After something is mounted there, its'

Re: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions

2003-10-23 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 13:41, Gonzalo Avaria wrote: Thanks, now i know that. Maybe in a few years i become silver, now i´m only a student with schoolarchip, so only can use the download edition. I apologize for the latest post. Greetings I'm posting this one again, maybe you were too

Re: [expert] GAL

2003-10-23 Thread Richard Bown
Hi back again,sorted the libxml , but gnomeprint is giving me probs and I'm now hitting long lists on file conflicts These are the versions of gnomeprint installed libgnomeprint-2.3.1-4mdk libgnomeprintui2-2_0-2.3.1-2mdk libgnomeprint15-0.37-4mdk libgnomeprint2-2_0-devel-2.3.1-4mdk

Re: [expert] Increading /mnt/cdrom size?

2003-10-23 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 23 October 2003 02:26 pm, deedee wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:38:57 -0700, KevinO wrote: /mnt/cdrom is a real directory, until you mount something there. Since the /mnt directory is part of the / filesystem (not on a separate partition), its' size is limited to the free space

RE: [expert] KDevelop Help

2003-10-23 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)
I can't help with the RPM stuff, but you might find info on the KDevelop/SDL interaction at the following URL: http://www.geekcomix.com/snh/files/docs/sdl-kdev/sdl-kdev-mini-how2.htmlP David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Theo Brinkman

Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 01:57, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 21 Oct 2003 9:09 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 12:56, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 20 Oct 2003 10:54 pm, Luca Olivetti wrote: Jack Coates escribió: There are virii that use Java, Javascript, Flash, you

Re: [expert] NIC not starting with Mandrake 9.2

2003-10-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 01:25, Bill Mullen wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Robert Fisher wrote: I have just installed 9.2 onto an IBM ThinkPad 390E laptop with 256Mb ram. It worked fine with 9.1 but now the NIC, although recognised at intallation does not start by itself. It is a

Re: [expert] 9.2 KDE screensavers

2003-10-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 10:44, Hezekiah M. Carty wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 14:32, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 03:46 pm, Pedro Capiscol wrote: Hi friends. I upgrade from 9.1 to 9.2 and now I have no screensaver with KDE. I can see de screensavers in Gnome, and of

Re: [expert] Install issues with 9.2

2003-10-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 13:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I downloaded the 9.2 Powerpack CD's, and went on an adventure. Well, 9.2 has several annoying install issues especially with a broken KDE install. For example: -consoles don't get installed properly -old

Re: [expert] 9.2 KDE screensavers

2003-10-23 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Thursday 23 October 2003 07:32 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 10:44, Hezekiah M. Carty wrote: snip The newly released collection of 9.2 updates by Mandrake are supposed to fix the KDE screensaver problem, among many others. Hez No joke a total of 92 updates (you

Re: [expert] Increading /mnt/cdrom size?

2003-10-23 Thread deedee
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:53:26 -0400, Bryan Phinney wrote: Actually, he is quite correct. /mnt/cdrom is a directory located off of /mnt which in turn is located off of /. I believe you are confusing how a directory tree is set up to interface with you as a user in order to help you find your

Re: [expert] is it possible for cracker to cover his track?

2003-10-23 Thread Fajar Priyanto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 23 October 2003 09:48 pm, Jack Coates wrote: .bash_history is cake; just kill -9 your own session instead of using logout or exit. wtmp is harder, that'll involve editing the logfiles. BTW, ssh has its own access log so check that one

Re: [expert] KDevelop Help

2003-10-23 Thread Theo Brinkman
Unfortunately, this how-to doesn't seem to have been updated since the 1.x days of KDevelop, and I don't know enough about how KDevelop works to figure out how to translate the differences. For example, there's no acinclude.m4.in or libtool.m4.in, and even though I've got every SDL library

Re: [expert] GAL

2003-10-23 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 23 October 2003 03:07 pm, Richard Bown wrote: Hi all just starting to move apps over on to pc with a fresh install of 9.2. I've noticed a lot of apps and libs which were standard with 9.1, are no longer installed with 9.2. Doing battle trying to compile gal-0.23 which is need ed

Re: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions

2003-10-23 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 23 October 2003 04:13 pm, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote: Mostly proprietary drivers and what not that are installed automagically. I think it includes stuff like Flash and RealPlayer as well Also the kernel-source, but that is moot anyway with the update kernel that is

Re: [expert] Increading /mnt/cdrom size?

2003-10-23 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 23 October 2003 05:20 pm, deedee wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:53:26 -0400, Bryan Phinney wrote: Actually, he is quite correct. /mnt/cdrom is a directory located off of /mnt which in turn is located off of /. I believe you are confusing how a directory tree is set up to

Re: [expert] Mandrake releases bug fixes for MDK 9.2

2003-10-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 17:20, James Conner wrote: For those on the MDK security mailing list you will already know. For those that aren't, check the archives(it's too large to repost here). These updates fix quite a few of the bugs that have been troubling people lately. Glad to see that

Re: [expert] Install issues with 9.2

2003-10-23 Thread Rolf Pedersen
OK, I see why this didn't show up on the list. Please, also, read about setting reply-to in the wiki: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette Rolf Pedersen wrote: Bill Dearing wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 17:15, Greg Meyer wrote: I think the official 9.2

[expert] Geomagnetic storm alert

2003-10-23 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
I just heard on Fox news that a pseudo-solar flare has erupted on the sun, and we now have a massive wave of electromagnetic energy and particles headed our way. It's due to hit tommorrow. No kidding. Supposedly the max rating for such a storm is G5, this storm is supposed to be G3 or so.

Re: [expert] KDevelop Help

2003-10-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 14:05, Theo Brinkman wrote: I'm trying to get KDevelop completely set up for some development, but I'm having some problems. First, I can't seem to find some of the files it wants for various optional stuff like help, and project documentation. I'm looking for where

Re: [expert] Increading /mnt/cdrom size?

2003-10-23 Thread David Rankin
Brian, I could have told you you were right a long time ago. I used to backup at night using a script what would smbmount a M$ box drive to dump my backup nightly until CDs were burned at the end of the week. One night following a thunder storm, smbmount failed and the quick script wasn't

Re: [expert] is it possible for cracker to cover his track?

2003-10-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 17:58, Fajar Priyanto wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 23 October 2003 09:48 pm, Jack Coates wrote: .bash_history is cake; just kill -9 your own session instead of using logout or exit. wtmp is harder, that'll involve editing the

Re: [expert] KDevelop Help

2003-10-23 Thread Theo Brinkman
Not trying to complie KDevelop, no. I'm trying my hand at writing a couple small games (hopefully, with experience I'll try my hand at some larger games as well), but I can't even get the SDL equivalent of 'Hello World' to compile. I get an 'undefined reference to 'SDL_*' error for each

Re: [expert] 9.2 KDE screensavers

2003-10-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 17:30, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Thursday 23 October 2003 07:32 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 10:44, Hezekiah M. Carty wrote: snip The newly released collection of 9.2 updates by Mandrake are supposed to fix the KDE screensaver problem,

[expert] where are mozilla,xine stuff in mandrake 9.2?

2003-10-23 Thread Vincent Chen
Hi, all I just got a copy of mandrake 9.2 download edition. It's very easy to perform a new install. But I found some of my favorite apps like mozilla,xine,etc in 9.1 are missing after login, are they in default installation of power pack or prosuite? I know package management can add those

Re: [expert] where are mozilla,xine stuff in mandrake 9.2?

2003-10-23 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 23 October 2003 11:01 pm, Vincent Chen wrote: Hi, all I just got a copy of mandrake 9.2 download edition. It's very easy to perform a new install. But I found some of my favorite apps like mozilla,xine,etc in 9.1 are missing after login, are they in default installation of power

Re: [expert] KDevelop Help

2003-10-23 Thread Kwan Lowe
Unfortunately, this how-to doesn't seem to have been updated since the 1.x days of KDevelop, and I don't know enough about how KDevelop works to figure out how to translate the differences. For example, there's no acinclude.m4.in or libtool.m4.in, and even though I've got every SDL library

Re: [expert] KDevelop Help

2003-10-23 Thread Kwan Lowe
Not trying to complie KDevelop, no. I'm trying my hand at writing a couple small games (hopefully, with experience I'll try my hand at some larger games as well), but I can't even get the SDL equivalent of 'Hello World' to compile. I get an 'undefined reference to 'SDL_*' error for each

Re: [expert] is it possible for cracker to cover his track?

2003-10-23 Thread lorne
On Thursday 23 October 2003 05:58 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 23 October 2003 09:48 pm, Jack Coates wrote: .bash_history is cake; just kill -9 your own session instead of using logout or exit. wtmp is harder, that'll involve editing

Re: [expert] KDevelop Help

2003-10-23 Thread Theo Brinkman
Progress! Now I just get one error that says: *** No rule to make target 'SDL' ... I assume this means I just need to figure out where to put 'sdl-config --cflags' and 'sdl-config --libs' so the compiler gets the flags it needs? - Theo Kwan Lowe wrote: Unfortunately, this how-to doesn't

Re: [expert] KDevelop Help

2003-10-23 Thread Theo Brinkman
The project is a simple 'Terminal C++' project, with the only changes being an added #include SDL/SDL.h, and the contents of main() [below]. - - - - - #ifdef HAVE_CONFIG_H #include config.h #endif #include iostream.h #include stdlib.h #include SDL/SDL.h int main(int argc, char *argv[]) {

Re: [expert] Increading /mnt/cdrom size?

2003-10-23 Thread deedee
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Re: [expert] KDevelop Help

2003-10-23 Thread Kwan Lowe
The project is a simple 'Terminal C++' project, with the only changes being an added #include SDL/SDL.h, and the contents of main() [below]. Hmm.. Seems to build fine on mine, though execution fails because I don't have a sound device. To build this I did: New C++ terminal project, accepted

Re: [expert] is it possible for cracker to cover his track?

2003-10-23 Thread Jack Coates
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 17:58, Fajar Priyanto wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 23 October 2003 09:48 pm, Jack Coates wrote: .bash_history is cake; just kill -9 your own session instead of using logout or exit. wtmp is harder, that'll involve editing the

Re: [expert] is it possible for cracker to cover his track?

2003-10-23 Thread J.C. Woods
Fajar Priyanto wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 23 October 2003 09:48 pm, Jack Coates wrote: .bash_history is cake; just kill -9 your own session instead of using logout or exit. wtmp is harder, that'll involve editing the logfiles. BTW, ssh has its own access

Re: [expert] is it possible for cracker to cover his track?

2003-10-23 Thread Fajar Priyanto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 24 October 2003 11:11 am, Jack Coates wrote: define good; there's not a lot of ways that don't involve hard feelings. Assuming that telling him it didn't working out and walking him to the door isn't a possibility, your options are all