civileme wrote:
I am one of the people bit by the cutbacks to keep Mandrake afloat and I
STILL agree that their policy is on track. The idiots (and I can and
will use that word for the lamers whose heads are so wrapped up in
business they can't see five minutes into the future, now that
On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, civileme uttered these words of wisdom:
Agree, Mike.
SuSE could have a much bigger market share and Caldera is now
insignificant, SuSE for its closedness, and Caldera for its abysmal
support, proprietary software, and per-seat licensing.
I am one of the people bit by
J. Craig Woods wrote:
civileme wrote:
I am one of the people bit by the cutbacks to keep Mandrake afloat and I
STILL agree that their policy is on track. The idiots (and I can and
will use that word for the lamers whose heads are so wrapped up in
business they can't see five minutes into the
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 15:09:56 -0700 (PDT)
Robert Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grabed a keyboard and said:
I'm not an expert, but doesn't Mandrake only have to
provide the source for all the modifications Mandrake
did. Can Mandrake NOT provide the ISOs for free? And
does Mandrake need to provide
On 08 Apr 2002 00:45:02 -0400
Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grabed a keyboard and said:
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 10:59, sda wrote:
Oh so if one criticizes MandrakeSoft they're FUD throwers?
Comeon, if you cannot accept criticism wisely you're nothing
but a fool.
Did you even begin to
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 21:15:25 -0400
sda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grabed a keyboard and said:
On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 01:47:40PM -0700, KevinO wrote:
sda wrote:
RS has no problem with this at all, free
as in speech, not necessarily free as in beer. The heart of
GNU/Linux is still free as in
On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 19:25:46 -0400
sda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grabed a keyboard and said:
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 12:48:55PM -0800, civileme wrote:
sda wrote:
SNIP
I don't think anybody is worried about people giving it away
sans the Mandrake specific tools [if they were copyrighted -
I'm not quite sure of the roots of this email, I jumped in late. I have
just read several posts in the thread and would like to add a couple of
words. Even though I love using Mandrake (it's on most of my computers
including my server), if it weren't around, I would choose another
version.
Michael Holt wrote:
I'm not quite sure of the roots of this email, I jumped in late. I have
just read several posts in the thread and would like to add a couple of
words. Even though I love using Mandrake (it's on most of my computers
including my server), if it weren't around, I would choose
On Sun, 07 Apr 2002 15:04:20 -0500
J. Craig Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grabed a keyboard and
said:
Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
And for the Journalists: Which journalists? I think most of
these online platforms are mere places to get your opinion
read by some other who will post a controversal
sda wrote:
SNIP
I don't think anybody is worried about people giving it away sans the
Mandrake specific tools [if they were copyrighted - unfortunately they
aren't now]. FWIU GPL allows this, doesn't it?
They have copyright notices. Look at the source. Mandrake Tools are
copyrighted, and
sda wrote:
RS has no problem with this at all, free
as in speech, not necessarily free as in beer. The heart of
GNU/Linux is still free as in beer, however the ease of use necessarily
isn't or shouldn't be IMHO.
But RMS's license states that once I buy, download, whatever some GPL'd code,
I'm not an expert, but doesn't Mandrake only have to
provide the source for all the modifications Mandrake
did. Can Mandrake NOT provide the ISOs for free? And
does Mandrake need to provide the source for all the
other applications, etc that they bundle up in the
Mandrake distrio. The source
On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 22:49, daRcmaTTeR wrote:
good heavens! who got this one started!?! ;)
Mark
a.k.a. daRcmaTTeR
Hoyt is a *real* journalist (one of the good ones) and I used to
contribute a computer column to a local business newspaper. So when we
ran into each other critical mass was
- Original Message -
From: Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ExpertMandrake-List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake Club advocates: Post Positive
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 11:31, Hoyt wrote:
As someone who considers himself a journalist
On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 22:49, daRcmaTTeR wrote:
good heavens! who got this one started!?! ;)
Mark
a.k.a. daRcmaTTeR
Hoyt is a *real* journalist (one of the good ones) and I used to
contribute a computer column to a local business newspaper. So when we
ran into each other critical mass
On Son, 2002-04-07 at 21:14, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 13:46 -0500, Paul Cox wrote:
On Sunday, Apr 07, 2002, sda wrote:
NOT providing free and easy access to the _current_ .iso is about the
biggest violation you can make to the GPL.
Not exactly. Who can demand
On Monday 08 April 2002 00:45, you wrote:
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 10:59, sda wrote:
Oh so if one criticizes MandrakeSoft they're FUD throwers? Comeon, if
you cannot accept criticism wisely you're nothing but a fool.
Did you even begin to figure out the math that this guy is throwing
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:41 +0200, udo rader wrote:
On Son, 2002-04-07 at 21:14, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 13:46 -0500, Paul Cox wrote:
On Sunday, Apr 07, 2002, sda wrote:
NOT providing free and easy access to the _current_ .iso is about the
biggest violation
--- sda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mandrake deserves to take some hits and some of
us shareholders are
watching carefully, although we do seem to be a
minority around here.
It truly is a pleasure to see that your disagree
with this post. Given
what you are and the attitudes that
udo rader wrote:
On Son, 2002-04-07 at 21:14, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 13:46 -0500, Paul Cox wrote:
On Sunday, Apr 07, 2002, sda wrote:
NOT providing free and easy access to the _current_ .iso is about the
biggest violation you can make to the GPL.
Not exactly. Who
On Sunday 07 April 2002 01:12 am, you wrote:
I'm starting to get a little peeved and suspicious of Newsforge with
regard to who exactly are they serving and where their reporters are
exactly getting paid from. (under the table or otherwise.) SNIP
I can see where journalists could be bought
sda wrote:
Let users have the last version or two behind only for free.
I disagree. Read the GPL. I don't want the money that I have given to Mandrake
to go towards adverstising in a big way. I believe that some of the best
things come from less than fully commercial sources. Public TV and
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 01:12 -0500, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
to the positive, since lurkers abound at that place. I'm worried that
the negative comments or press will badly impact subscriptions to the
Mandrake Club, which will be an extremely bad thing (tm).
I'm starting to get a little
On Sunday, Apr 07, 2002, sda wrote:
I disagree. Read the GPL. I don't want the money that I have given to
Mandrake to go towards adverstising in a big way. I believe that some of
the best things come from less than fully commercial sources. Public TV and
radio is an example, and I
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 13:46 -0500, Paul Cox wrote:
On Sunday, Apr 07, 2002, sda wrote:
I disagree. Read the GPL. I don't want the money that I have given to
Mandrake to go towards adverstising in a big way. I believe that some of
the best things come from less than fully
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 13:46, Paul Cox wrote:
NOT providing free and easy access to the _current_ .iso is about the
biggest violation you can make to the GPL. And changing to a different
license will go against everything MandrakeSoft stands for and will
never happen.
--
Paul Cox paul at
Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
And for the Journalists: Which journalists? I think most of these
online platforms are mere places to get your opinion read by some other
who will post a controversal (?) opinion and off it goes. May be there
are some ppl working for those sites as regular writers
On Sunday, Apr 07, 2002, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
The GPL does NOT say you have to put out ISOs of your product ASAP. The
GPL doesn't even say you have to put ISOs on the net at all. All the GPL
says is that if you have a product you can make it public and if you make
it public it has to be
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 11:31, Hoyt wrote:
As someone who considers himself a journalist (several tutorials, reviews and
opinion pieces published in MaximumLinux and LinuxFormat magazines; three
chapters contributed to Red Hat Linux 7.2 Unleashed and currently a technical
reviewer for SAMS
On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 10:59, sda wrote:
Oh so if one criticizes MandrakeSoft they're FUD throwers? Comeon, if
you cannot accept criticism wisely you're nothing but a fool.
Did you even begin to figure out the math that this guy is throwing
around? It doesn't make sense that a business
The CEO of MandrakeSoft, Jacques Le Marois, recently submitted an
article, titled Our Mandrake Club makes business sense to Newsforge,
apparently in response to recent allegations by Newsforge (contrary btw
to the perception that they actually champion the open source
philosophy) that the
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