Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-14 Thread Matt Stegman
That's the /root/tmp directory that's listed, not /tmp. You're right, /tmp should have 1777 permissions, but /root/tmp should be 700. -Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, David Talbot wrote: On Fri, 07 Jul 2000, you wrote: don't delete while running X server but you safely

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-12 Thread David Talbot
On Fri, 07 Jul 2000, you wrote: don't delete while running X server but you safely delete them before running X (and it's what we do in the initscripts). What should the permissions be inside /root/tmp for X stuff ? Mine looks like this... [root: ~/tmp]# ll -d . drwx--2 root

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-09 Thread Steve Browne
On 07 Jul 2000 12:11:04 -0700, you wrote: Steve Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I boot Mandrake 7.1, the run list says at one point "clean-up /tmp". So /tmp is cleared out on every boot. /root/tmp is where the X files are that you shouldn't delete. yes right if you have the variable :

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-09 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger
Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: "Brian T. Schellenberger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems pretty obvious that they DIDN'T think about it. i did the implementation of ''Clean up /tmp'' and i don't see what is the problem ? you can have problem if you have a cron who delete the .X* files

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-09 Thread Alexander Skwar
On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 11:05:17PM -0600, Steve Browne wrote: On 07 Jul 2000 12:11:04 -0700, you wrote: Steve Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I boot Mandrake 7.1, the run list says at one point "clean-up /tmp". So /tmp is cleared out on every boot. /root/tmp is where the X files

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-09 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
"Brian T. Schellenberger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: X would not start. *That* is the problem. /tmp should contain only temporary files; it should be perfectly safe to wipe out the entire contents of /tmp and reboot, but with 7.0 it is not. what is the permission of your /tmp dir ? 1777

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-09 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger
Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: "Brian T. Schellenberger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: X would not start. *That* is the problem. /tmp should contain only temporary files; it should be perfectly safe to wipe out the entire contents of /tmp and reboot, but with 7.0 it is not. what is the

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-08 Thread John Aldrich
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, you wrote: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote: Try it at http://forum.mandrakesoft.com Our own version of slashdotg I emaild Chmouel. Maybe he'll deign to post in here their thinking on that subject. :-) It

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-08 Thread John Aldrich
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, you wrote: It seems pretty obvious that they DIDN'T think about it. It's been fixed in 7.1 anyway, as I understand it. Sort of. It's now in /root/tmp, instead of /tmp. *shrug* John

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-08 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Steve Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 06 Jul 2000 11:21:29 -0700, you wrote: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ? ok what is the question excatly i didn't followed the thread... Thanks. :-) The question was why you folks put the stuff in /tmp and later in /root/tmp that

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-08 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
"Brian T. Schellenberger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems pretty obvious that they DIDN'T think about it. i did the implementation of ''Clean up /tmp'' and i don't see what is the problem ? you can have problem if you have a cron who delete the .X* files when X running but since it is only

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe a question for the cooker list? I don't really know how else to direct a question to the Mandrake team. Maybe, but I've had the distinct impression that some of the Mandrake team hang out in this list apparently the ones who hang out

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread John Aldrich
On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote: Try it at http://forum.mandrakesoft.com Our own version of slashdotg I emaild Chmouel. Maybe he'll deign to post in here their thinking on that subject. :-) It would be NICE if they'd use this mail list! John

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread John Aldrich
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, you wrote: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe a question for the cooker list? I don't really know how else to direct a question to the Mandrake team. Maybe, but I've had the distinct impression that some of the Mandrake team hang out in this list

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ? ok what is the question excatly i didn't followed the thread... Thanks. :-) The question was why you folks put the stuff in /tmp and later in /root/tmp that causes X to go bad when you delete it? You we put nothing in /root/tmp only DrakConf has

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote: Try it at http://forum.mandrakesoft.com Our own version of slashdotg I emaild Chmouel. Maybe he'll deign to post in here their thinking on that subject. :-) It would be NICE if they'd use this mail list!

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread Mark Weaver
Have you tried re-creating this directory? sorry if you already stated this in an earlier post. I don't have that one in my inbox any longer, but it seems to me that would be the next logical step in the process. I would think that /tmp would be an important part of the file system and a server

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread Steve Browne
On 06 Jul 2000 11:21:29 -0700, you wrote: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ? ok what is the question excatly i didn't followed the thread... Thanks. :-) The question was why you folks put the stuff in /tmp and later in /root/tmp that causes X to go bad when you delete it? You we

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread bobby dowling
The people on cooker have answers, but you just have to be careful not to ask too many non-cooker related questions, I guess. From: Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start Date: 06 Jul 2000 11:22

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger
Mark Weaver wrote: Have you tried re-creating this directory? sorry if you already stated this in an earlier post. I don't have that one in my inbox any longer, but it seems to me that would be the next logical step in the process. I would think that /tmp would be an important part of the

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger
John Aldrich wrote: On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote: Try it at http://forum.mandrakesoft.com Our own version of slashdotg I emaild Chmouel. Maybe he'll deign to post in here their thinking on that subject. :-) It would be NICE if they'd use this mail list! John It

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-05 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue, 04 Jul 2000, you wrote: Has there ever been a satisfactory explanation of WHY they put PERMANENT stuff in a temporary directory? It seems rather loco to me to put ANYTHING you want to keep in a TEMP directory... :-) John Is it something that is overwritten at each

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-05 Thread Matt Stegman
Oh, wait! When you `ls -ld /tmp` do the permissions read: drwxrwxrwt If not, `chmod 1777 /tmp`, which should fix your permissions. Try starting X again. -Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, John Aldrich wrote: On Mon, 03 Jul 2000, you wrote: On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-05 Thread Michael Holt
John Aldrich wrote: On Tue, 04 Jul 2000, you wrote: Has there ever been a satisfactory explanation of WHY they put PERMANENT stuff in a temporary directory? It seems rather loco to me to put ANYTHING you want to keep in a TEMP directory... :-) John Is it something

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-05 Thread Michael Holt
Civileme wrote: Michael Holt wrote: Socket programming protocols basically form sockets for ONE task and then destroy it. In this case, it appears to be needed at boot time as the target of a symlink. Civileme Ok, that makes sense; which brings my next question, what

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-05 Thread John Aldrich
On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote: Maybe a question for the cooker list? I don't really know how else to direct a question to the Mandrake team. Maybe, but I've had the distinct impression that some of the Mandrake team hang out in this list apparently the ones who hang out either don't

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-05 Thread Civileme
John Aldrich wrote: On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote: Maybe a question for the cooker list? I don't really know how else to direct a question to the Mandrake team. Maybe, but I've had the distinct impression that some of the Mandrake team hang out in this list apparently the ones

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-04 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 05:28:56PM -0700, Mike Tracy Holt wrote: I would like to add a question here if I may; I'm used to Windows where the 'temp' directory is for temporary stuff and should be dumped periodically. What is the /tmp directory in *nix used for and why can't I delete it's

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-04 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue, 04 Jul 2000, you wrote: Yes, /tmp should be for temporary stuff. And this "stuff" is sockets, in this case, in a hidden directory. In 7.1 the use of /tmp for these sockets has been discontinued. Now they use /root/tmp which most people leave alone. Has there ever been a

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-04 Thread Henrik Edlund
On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, John Aldrich wrote: On Tue, 04 Jul 2000, you wrote: Yes, /tmp should be for temporary stuff. And this "stuff" is sockets, in this case, in a hidden directory. In 7.1 the use of /tmp for these sockets has been discontinued. Now they use /root/tmp which most

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-04 Thread Michael Holt
John Aldrich wrote: On Tue, 04 Jul 2000, you wrote: Yes, /tmp should be for temporary stuff. And this "stuff" is sockets, in this case, in a hidden directory. In 7.1 the use of /tmp for these sockets has been discontinued. Now they use /root/tmp which most people leave alone.

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-04 Thread Civileme
Michael Holt wrote: John Aldrich wrote: On Tue, 04 Jul 2000, you wrote: Yes, /tmp should be for temporary stuff. And this "stuff" is sockets, in this case, in a hidden directory. In 7.1 the use of /tmp for these sockets has been discontinued. Now they use /root/tmp which

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-04 Thread Michael Holt
Socket programming protocols basically form sockets for ONE task and then destroy it. In this case, it appears to be needed at boot time as the target of a symlink. Civileme Ok, that makes sense; which brings my next question, what would be a simpler term for 'socket programming

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-03 Thread Jon
On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 08:20:54AM -0400, Thiessen David G DLVA wrote: Like an idiot, I accidentally deleted my /tmp directory. I recreated the directory, but after rebooting, X fails to start. It seems to be stuck in an infinite loop trying to start X or KDM. I can boot into text mode

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-03 Thread John Aldrich
On Mon, 03 Jul 2000, you wrote: On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 08:20:54AM -0400, Thiessen David G DLVA wrote: Like an idiot, I accidentally deleted my /tmp directory. I recreated the directory, but after rebooting, X fails to start. It seems to be stuck in an infinite loop trying to start

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-03 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, you wrote: Experts - Like an idiot, I accidentally deleted my /tmp directory. I recreated the directory, but after rebooting, X fails to start. It seems to be stuck in an infinite loop trying to start X or KDM. I can boot into text mode fine. What can I do to

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-03 Thread Mike Tracy Holt
I would like to add a question here if I may; I'm used to Windows where the 'temp' directory is for temporary stuff and should be dumped periodically. What is the /tmp directory in *nix used for and why can't I delete it's contents? Thanks, Mike On Mon, 03 Jul 2000, you wrote: On Tue, Jun

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-03 Thread John Aldrich
On Mon, 03 Jul 2000, you wrote: I would like to add a question here if I may; I'm used to Windows where the 'temp' directory is for temporary stuff and should be dumped periodically. What is the /tmp directory in *nix used for and why can't I delete it's contents? Generally, it's exactly

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-03 Thread Civileme
John Aldrich wrote: On Mon, 03 Jul 2000, you wrote: I would like to add a question here if I may; I'm used to Windows where the 'temp' directory is for temporary stuff and should be dumped periodically. What is the /tmp directory in *nix used for and why can't I delete it's contents?