Hi Andrea --
I too need to give a talk on Factor here in the Philadelphia area in a couple
of months. I am not the old hand that you are looking for, but it occurred
to me that it might be valuable for us to collaborate. While we definitely
would want to get some of the more seasoned
I agree with Alexander, that this is a term that has come to represent a number
of different things to different people. One core idea is that you attempt to
capture in some set of assertions what the correct expected outcome is of a
particular unit of code, given a particular set of test
whether you wish to embrace
a narrower or wider meaning of the term. But they do both exist.
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On May 26, 2013, at 11:31 AM, William Tanksley, Jr wtanksle...@gmail.com
wrote:
Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com wrote:
I agree with Alexander, that this is a term that has come
Also interested in this.
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On Nov 30, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Naveen Garg naveen.g...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey guys,
I am playing around with factor again, and getting some useful work done.
I am trying to use factor embedded...
Unfortunately, the function init_factor_from_args
Just thought I would mention that there is no Ctrl key on the Mac, so this
change might not be so good for the Mac folks.
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On Aug 31, 2012, at 6:47 PM, John Benediktsson mrj...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Mike,
Great input, thanks! A few questions -
'Writing some logic in
Command. Not a big deal,
just thought you might want to make it completely clear to everyone.
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:39:49 -0700
From: arc...@gmail.com
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Comments on 'Your First Program
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Michael
.
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:29:35 -0700
From: arc...@gmail.com
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Comments on 'Your First Program
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com wrote:
I just meant that it's not called control, it's called
Chris -- I'm spending some time going back through various key bloggers'
contributions and am working through some of yours at the moment. Back in
December of 2006 in one of your articles on Parser Combinators you reference a
Chapter 5 on Parser Combinators from some larger work. This is a
Thanks much. In this age of erroneous credit reports, that never
disappearing aspect of the web is definitely a double-edged sword.
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On Aug 24, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Chris Double chris.dou...@double.co.nz wrote:
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Michael Clagett mclag
John -- Couldn't resist chiming in here. Of course Factor is portable, open
source, and reliable. These are three of its strongest attributes. But the
DLL version of it nothwithstanding, it is such an attractive language from a
language standpoint that it leads one to want to have it where
That, I would guess, is a result of its being implemented in C#. But what you
lose at that point is the ability for the language to be used outside of the
CLR and the extreme portability of something like Factor. What I'm envisioning
is something closer to Microsoft's C++, which now has
to the community in the way of documentation of
what I learn along the way.
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On Aug 23, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Joe Groff arc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com
wrote:
That, I would guess, is a result of its being implemented in C
: pic-tail-reg ( -- reg ) EDX ;
//stack pointer // ?: stack-reg ( -- reg ) ESP ;
// stack frame pointer: frame-reg ( -- reg ) EBP ;
// virtual machine object base: vm-reg ( -- reg ) EBX ;
: ctx-reg ( -- reg ) EBP ;
// non-volatile registers -- these would be registers needing to be preserved
A few more: // ?: shift-arg ( -- reg ) ECX ;
// ?: div-arg ( -- reg ) EAX ;
// ?: mod-arg ( -- reg ) EDX ;
From: mclag...@hotmail.com
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:03:30 +
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
.,
https://github.com/slavapestov/factor/blob/master/basis/cpu/x86/bootstrap.factor#L561
That's as much as I can gather from a glance,
--Alex Vondrak
From: Michael Clagett [mclag...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 7:08 AM
To: Factor-Talk
, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com wrote:
Thanks. I knew it had to be something like that. And if I want it to be
the default every time I load the Listener, I'm sure there must be a way to
set that up?
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On Aug 15, 2012, at 11:01 AM, John
hashtables
def [ \ hashtable ]props H{ { help-parent hashtables } {
slots ~array~ } { ...pic-def fpic-tail-def fsub-primitive f
```
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:01 AM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi --
Okay. I'm going to ask for my first lifeline. :) I'm
Great, thanks.
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On Aug 16, 2012, at 1:11 PM, John Benediktsson mrj...@gmail.com wrote:
So then, John, does that mean that in the [ 4 slot { array} declare ], that
I'm getting the slot named array which is at offset 4 (and then declaring
that to be an array, so as to
?
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Here's an obscure question that is of interest to me in my current quest,
but probably not to anyone else. So if there is a better forum for me to
ask such things, I would love to be instructed; until I hear
in hex, the easiest way is:
```
IN: scratchpad 16 number-base set-global
```
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com wrote:
Quick question. Any way of having the data and retain stack panes of the
Walker display values in hex?
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12
bootstrapping, call 'run-bootstrap-init' and then
'save' your image.
Doug
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com wrote:
Thanks. I knew it had to be something like that. And if I want it to be
the default every time I load the Listener, I'm sure there must
way of making sense of what's in the boot
image?
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Here's an obscure question that is of interest to me in my current quest,
but probably not to anyone else. So if there is a better forum for me to
ask
documentation that you write as part of your investigation would be welcome
contributions.
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com wrote:
One constructive criticism type comment, if you'll permit me. While what I
say directly below is absolutely true, it's true
://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/death/US/clagett651.htm
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com wrote:
Thank you, Joe, for the quick response. It was actually the information in
the such as clause of your last sentence that I was looking for. I don't
mean for you to take the time
at 11:52 AM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Here's an obscure question that is of interest to me in my current quest,
but probably not to anyone else. So if there is a better forum for me to
ask such things, I would love to be instructed; until I hear otherwise,
however, I
P.S. Incidentally, while I am on the subject, I find myself able to trace
through the VM startup code in Visual Studio with no problem at all, until I
get to the factor_vm::c_to_factor, which wraps a c-to-factor sub-primitive
inside of a callback stub and then invokes that function.
Not a problem any more. WinDbg does the trick just fine. It was just Visual
Studio.
From: mclag...@hotmail.com
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:51:00 +
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot image?
P.S.
sense of what's in the boot
image?
You might also find it useful to try the Walker which allows you to step
through Factor code:
http://docs.factorcode.org/content/article-ui-walker.html
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com wrote:
Not a problem any
@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
image?
You might also find it useful to try the Walker which allows you to step
through Factor code:
http://docs.factorcode.org/content/article-ui-walker.html
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Michael Clagett
:
IN: scratchpad my-arch .unix-x86.64
You can use the my-arch word to make an image for your architecture:
IN: scratchpad my-arch make-image
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi --
I've been trying to run the make-image word from
can use the my-arch word to make an image for your architecture:
IN: scratchpad my-arch make-image
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi --
I've been trying to run the make-image word from the Listener and got as far as
this trace
in listener.
Then type Ctrl-W to walk it.
Step across my-arch
Into into make-image
Rinse, repeat. :)
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com wrote:
Quick question, if you're still on the horn. How do I trace into myarch
make-image from the Listener. If I
of what's in the boot
image?
Write my-arch make-image in listener.
Then type Ctrl-W to walk it.
Step across my-arch
Into into make-image
Rinse, repeat. :)
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com wrote:
Quick question, if you're still on the horn. How
:
IN: scratchpad my-arch .unix-x86.64
You can use the my-arch word to make an image for your architecture:
IN: scratchpad my-arch make-image
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi --
I've been trying to run the make-image word from the Listener
sense of what's in the boot
image?
You can do this:
./factor
in the repl: die
then in the shell:
words
It dumps a list of word addresses in Factor.
This works for words, but not quotations.
Hope this helps.
Doug
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Michael Clagett mclag
Thank you, Joe, once again for your help. I have settled into a nice rythym of
virtually tracing through the code by looking at the source (both vm and factor
files), augmented by the Help system in the listener. That should keep me busy
and out of your hair for a couple months (or couple
stuff.
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 06:26:54 -0700
From: arc...@gmail.com
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
image?
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Joe --
Thank you
Quick question about parse-file.Is the quotation that is returned on the
stack as a result of this word a parse tree, as discussed in the
documentation's article on parsing? This would be a parse tree as in Tokens
are appended to the parse tree, the top level of which is a quotation
Hi -- I've been tracing through the initial vm initialization code trying to
get a picture of how Factor bootstraps itself. Does anyone know if there is a
way to resolve code in the initial boot image that is being jit-compiled by
factor_vm::prepare_boot_image to a set of symbolic names that
encountered this and any idea how to get around it? Thanks. Date: Wed, 8 Aug
2012 20:23:04 -0700
From: arc...@gmail.com
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Any way of making sense of what's in the boot
image?
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Michael Clagett mclag
-0800
From: arc...@gmail.com
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Shared libraries considered harmful
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com wrote:
As for integration, I can see from your description of Factor's host
integration that we
to address.
Hope this clarifies.
Mike
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:03:53 -0800
From: arc...@gmail.com
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Shared libraries considered harmful
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Michael Clagett mclag...@hotmail.com wrote:
That brings
A couple thoughts --
First of all, as far as I can tell Factor is one big shared library; so much of
even the core language is implemented in library code that this is truer for
Factor than it is for many languages one encounters.
That brings a cost, however, as I've seen up to this point.
Hi ---
Finally getting around to developing my first serious Factor code and I have a
quick question. I'm a Forth programmer (although of late it has been mostly my
own bastardized version of Forth). I'm thinking of one immediate use of
Combinators as a way of eliminating some of the
Hi --
Just want to know what libraries might already be out there with graph
processing stuff in them. Don't want to reinvent the wheel.
Thanks.
Mike
--
All of the data
Wow! Patrick, thank you very much. This will be extremely helpful to me,
since the internet-less two hours on the train back and forth to work everyday
is a significant piece of the time I have available to absorb Factor.
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 00:58:12 -0400
From:
Sorry. Misunderstood what you were asking.
From: mclag...@hotmail.com
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:15:58 +
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] TryRuby, etc.
Hi Andrew --
Not a video tutorial, but I found this useful:
I'm hunting for a library that can be used to help me do quick and dirty
Windows/GDI programming with Factor. Has anyone created such an animal yet?
Thanks.
--
Learn how
Thanks, Joe.
From: arc...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:38:34 +0530
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Factor-talk] Can anyone point me to a library for manipulating
Windows
On Jan 2, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Michael Clagett wrote:I'm hunting for a library
that can be used
I haven't used AspectJ, but Attributes in .NET can be used for the same purpose
and I have done that. I don't know how the Attribute syntax compares with
Aspect J, but I have found it to be very clean and you may want to look at it
as food for thought in what you are trying to do. I don't
Shaping --
If you do embark on the effort you propose below, I would be happy to work on
it with you (although I would think you would want to find at least one old
hand to participate as well). What you describe is very close to what I intend
for my own factor-like environment that I
Never mind. I was reminded of the Visual Studio command prompt and am just
building with the NMakefile from there. Seems to be working ok. Sorry for the
noise.
From: mclag...@hotmail.com
To: factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:04:06 +
Subject: [Factor-talk]
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