[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 27, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Vaj wrote: IIRC there is also an interview with one of the Shankaracharya's where they state that it is an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread nablus108
Regardless of anything, if a man is called, let's say, Frank Loyd Wright and has been called this for the last 50 years, why in the world would anyone say his name is Frankie just because they don't like him? Can't the Wikipedia people see through this? Who is behind this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes and Stepped up Basis

2006-06-28 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Few people are aware that any suggestion for the elimination of the estate tax comes with the elimination of the stepped-up basis

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regardless of anything, if a man is called, let's say, Frank Loyd Wright and has been called this for the last 50 years, why in the world would anyone say his name is Frankie just because they don't like

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves

2006-06-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Because we should realize and make the connection that *dualistic methods

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Free Saddam Hussein'

2006-06-28 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In a message dated 6/25/06 8:56:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jstein@ writes: Of course, he *did* let the inspectors in. Bush pulled them out even though--or actually, because-- they weren't finding any WMD, making nonsense of his excuse for the invasion. Bush has said

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves

2006-06-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kabbalist1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, what you wrote make sense that resonate with my understanding of TM as well, but with all due respect, lets not forget that Vaj has hands on and knowledge on both (or more) ways , and other meditation methods

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves

2006-06-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: snip

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 27, 2006, at 6:43 PM, peterklutz wrote: I.e. Mahesh was given the full name Maharishi Mahesh Yogi when his peers/tradition over fifty years ago cognized him to be (1) a yogi as well as (2) a great seer.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves

2006-06-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:38 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: There's just not much I can say to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread Vaj
On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:26 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 27, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Vaj wrote: IIRC there is also an interview with one of the Shankaracharya's   where they state that it is an assumed name and that he was not a yogi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:26 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 27, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Vaj wrote: IIRC there is also an interview with one of the Shankaracharya's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Free Saddam Hussein'

2006-06-28 Thread Peter
--- Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In a message dated 6/25/06 8:56:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jstein@ writes: Of course, he *did* let the inspectors in. Bush pulled them out even though--or actually, because-- they weren't finding any WMD, making

Re: [FairfieldLife] Online sales site for Maharishi Vedic Organic Farm

2006-06-28 Thread Peter
I'm sure these veggies are delicious, but they seem a bit pricy especially with the shipping cost. --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.healthyorganicproduce.com/ Maharishi Vedic Organic Farm Sainte Genevieve, MO 63670 � USA

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread Vaj
On Jun 27, 2006, at 11:15 PM, Peter wrote: --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip However, he has never practiced yoga. But he does eat babies! Only organic babies. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves: source of Vaj;'s inspired statements

2006-06-28 Thread Vaj
On Jun 27, 2006, at 11:27 PM, Peter wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/27/06 4:52 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no physiological component to enlightenment. Any physiological component has to do with mental conditions. "Restful Alertness" is a condition of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread Vaj
On Jun 28, 2006, at 1:43 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 27, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Vaj wrote: IIRC there is also an interview with one of the Shankaracharya's   where they state that it is an assumed name and that he was not a   yogi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread Vaj
On Jun 28, 2006, at 4:48 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 27, 2006, at 6:43 PM, peterklutz wrote: I.e. Mahesh was given the full name Maharishi Mahesh Yogi when his peers/tradition over fifty years ago cognized him to be (1) a yogi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread Paul Mason
Whether the name/title 'Maharishi' was initially self-applied or not, it most likely that it started with someone mishearing his name (Mahesh) or someone using the term 'Mahashay' (Mahashay = adj.n.mas. magananimous, munificent, a term of respect, sir, master, mister.) Certainly the signing of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread Paul Mason
On what basis do you assert that Swami Swaroopanand left the service of Gurudev before the latter's demise in 1953? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:26 PM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 6/27/06 10:40:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote: In a message dated 6/27/06 7:14:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]net writes: In the ongoing battle at wikipedia certain editors

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Majority Press Release U.S. Senate Committee on the Environment and Public Works Contact: MARC MORANO 202-224-5762, MATT DEMPSEY 202-224-9797 From TalkingPointsMemo.com: Until a couple months ago, the [writer of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Gore's film gets five stars for accuracy from leading cli...

2006-06-28 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 6/27/06 7:36:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scientists OK Gore's movie for accuracyBy SETH BORENSTEIN, AP Science WriterTue Jun 27, 4:24 PM ETThe nation's top climate scientists are giving "An Inconvenient Truth," Al Gore's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regardless of anything, if a man is called, let's say, Frank Loyd Wright and has been called this for the last 50 years, why in the world would anyone say his name is Frankie just because they don't like

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Because we

[FairfieldLife] Re: In internet speak

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: In internet speak, what exactly is an Avatar I know what it is spiritually speaking, but what has the word been usurped for in silly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kabbalist1 kabbalist1@ wrote: Jim, what you wrote make sense that resonate with my understanding of TM as well, but with all due respect, lets not forget that Vaj has hands

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes and Stepped up Basis

2006-06-28 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Few people are aware that any suggestion for the

[FairfieldLife] Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread new . morning
Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely not. Again, restful alertness is consciousness projected into and identified with a condition of mind. All mental conditions are neither closer nor further from pure consciousness. That being said, a technique that reduces mental activity (the vrittis of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread Sal Sunshine
Another one of Shemp's unimpeachable sources. Sal On Jun 28, 2006, at 8:31 AM, authfriend wrote: Until a couple months ago, the [writer of this press release], Marc Marono, worked for [the very right-wing] CNSnews.com where he distinguished himself by using disgraced NASA crony George

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread gerbal88
It's a silly and pointless exercise in futiity. Mahesh's secrecy policy is the modus operandi that drove the early Movement. The rather mundane fact that his mother named him Mahesh probably has some significance in all this, but who actually cares. What kind of maharishi or, for that matter,

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Ken stops his brainwaves] Spiritual Orthodoxy

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:38 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
One thing MMY has never done is accept a formal disciple, as far as I can tell. Nandkashore is gunna be pissed when he finds this out. You might want to straighten out Purusha and Mother Divine on this point before they get too much older. Unrequited discipleship, how sad! It was probably just

Re: [FairfieldLife] Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread Vaj
On Jun 28, 2006, at 10:35 AM, new.morning wrote:Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely not. Again, restful alertness is consciousness projected into and identified with a condition of mind. All mental conditions are neither "closer" nor "further" from pure consciousness. That being said, a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Again, I'm pointing this out because I'm really tired of attempts to denigrate posters here that are based on TM orthodoxy. Maharishi's opinions are no better than anyone else's. They're just opinions, and many

[FairfieldLife] India's economic report card

2006-06-28 Thread claudiouk
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/5116596.stm India's economic report card By Kaushik Basu Professor of economics, Cornell University India's per capita income is a tad higher than sub-Saharan Africa's For non-economists the World Development Indicators (WDI), published

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
I.e. Mahesh was given the full name Maharishi Mahesh Yogi when his peers/tradition over fifty years ago cognized him to be (1) a yogi as well as (2) a great seer. His own account is that the press gave him that title when they described him for his library lectures as a great

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing MMY has never done is accept a formal disciple, as far as I can tell. And, of course, there's Sattyanand, Devindra and Guru Bev (Bevin became a brahmachari, probably one of the very few westerners if

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Majority Press Release U.S. Senate Committee on the Environment and Public Works Contact: MARC MORANO 202-224-5762, MATT DEMPSEY

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Majority Press Release U.S. Senate Committee on the Environment and Public Works Contact: MARC MORANO 202-224-5762, MATT DEMPSEY

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 27, 2006, at 10:26 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 27, 2006, at 8:03 PM, Vaj wrote: IIRC there is also an interview with one of the Shankaracharya's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whether the name/title 'Maharishi' was initially self-applied or not, it most likely that it started with someone mishearing his name (Mahesh) or someone using the term 'Mahashay' (Mahashay = adj.n.mas.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a silly and pointless exercise in futiity. Mahesh's secrecy policy is the modus operandi that drove the early Movement. The rather mundane fact that his mother named him Mahesh probably has some significance in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread Patrick Gillam
The fact that Marono is a shill for entrenched interests is revealing, but that fact alone doesn't necessarily discredit his citations. They seem to do that on their own. For example, Richard S. Lindzen, the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Science at MIT, says in his Wall Street

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gore's film gets five stars for accuracy from leading cli...

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/27/06 7:36:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scientists OK Gore's movie for accuracy snip Read more at Yahoo News: _http://tinyurl.http://ti_ (http://tinyurl.com/k7qvt) _U.S.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- shempmcgurk wrote: Here's the article in question, Billie: http://tinyurl.com/hmron I, for one, would indeed like to know what the nation's top scientists thought of the movie...not JUST the 19 of 100 contacted who had seen the movie or read the book. Wouldn't you? Thanks for the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Majority Press Release U.S. Senate Committee on the Environment

[FairfieldLife] Re: Online sales site for Maharishi Vedic Organic Farm

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure these veggies are delicious, but they seem a bit pricy especially with the shipping cost. Actually they're right in line with the prices of other organic produce mail-order retailers (somewhat less than Diamond

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread Peter
Seems like MMY likes all the benefits of having disciples, but he accepts none of the reponsibility of having disciples. --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing MMY has never done is accept a formal disciple, as far as I can tell. Nandkashore is gunna be pissed when he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shempmcgurk wrote: Here's the article in question, Billie: http://tinyurl.com/hmron I, for one, would indeed like to know what the nation's top scientists thought of the movie...not JUST the 19 of

[FairfieldLife] Dean said he is looking for the age of enlightenment

2006-06-28 Thread new . morning
Dean: 'We're About to Enter the '60s Again' By Randy Hall CNSNews.com Staff Writer/Editor June 28, 2006 (CNSNews.com) - America is about to revisit one of the most turbulent decades in its history, Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean told a religious conference in Washington, D.C.,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like MMY likes all the benefits of having disciples, but he accepts none of the reponsibility of having disciples. Did you talk or read accounts of any direct disciples who actually felt this to be true? Either way,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shempmcgurk wrote: Here's the article in question, Billie: http://tinyurl.com/hmron I, for one, would indeed like to know what the nation's top scientists thought of the movie...not JUST the 19 of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I.e. Mahesh was given the full name Maharishi Mahesh Yogi when his peers/tradition over fifty years ago cognized him to be (1) a yogi as well as (2) a great seer. His own account is that the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another one of Shemp's unimpeachable sources. ...and you, Salvatore, are simply peachy... Sal On Jun 28, 2006, at 8:31 AM, authfriend wrote: Until a couple months ago, the [writer of this press

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 28, 2006, at 10:35 AM, new.morning wrote: Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Absolutely not. Again, restful alertness is consciousness projected into and identified with a condition of mind. All mental conditions

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like MMY likes all the benefits of having disciples, but he accepts none of the reponsibility of having disciples. sounds like saying a tree likes all the benefits of having leaves, but accepts none of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- shempmcgurk wrote: Here's the article in question, Billie: http://tinyurl.com/hmron I, for one, would indeed like to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Majority Press Release U.S. Senate Committee on the Environment

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves

2006-06-28 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves on 6/28/06 3:03 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj used to be a TM teacher. You knew that, right? If so, he was absent the day that they passed out the You already know everything that is worth knowing Kool-Aid. Unlike

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 28, 2006, at 10:35 AM, new.morning wrote: Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Absolutely not. Again, restful alertness is consciousness

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread Vaj
On Jun 28, 2006, at 12:37 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 28, 2006, at 10:35 AM, new.morning wrote: Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Absolutely not. Again, restful alertness is consciousness projected into and identified with a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- shempmcgurk wrote: Here's the article in question, Billie: http://tinyurl.com/hmron I, for one, would indeed like to know

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread new . morning
Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- shempmcgurk wrote: Here's the article in question, Billie: http://tinyurl.com/hmron

[FairfieldLife] Sacrifice of Wealth Is The Way

2006-06-28 Thread surya
Matthew–6 : 19 to 22 Do not Lay up for yourselves, treasures on earth. But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven. For where your treasure is there your heart will be also. Matthew -7: 21 Not everyone who say to Me, `Lord, Lord' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but He who does the will

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread new . morning
Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- shempmcgurk wrote: Here's the article in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 28, 2006, at 12:37 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 28, 2006, at 10:35 AM, new.morning wrote: Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Absolutely not.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipHe later warns you will never attain CC/jivan- mukti if you practice samyama: In this way he (the samyama yogi) falls away from the attainment of the goal of life (CC). Then he repeats Patanjali for a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On what basis do you assert that Swami Swaroopanand left the service of Gurudev before the latter's demise in 1953? My very bad. I misread the history of the succession wars. Yahoo! Groups

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Jim, on a personal note, nothing to do with points of discussion, etc, where and when did you take your siddhis course? You are in South Bay (SF Bay area) arn't you. Did you take siddhi's course there? Follow-up

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread Bhairitu
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shempmcgurk wrote: Here's the article in question, Billie: http://tinyurl.com/hmron I, for one, would indeed like to know what the nation's top scientists thought of the movie...not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Unfortunately that's not what the tradition (of Shankara) says. It does say that this will prevent enlightenment in this lifetime: The two terms (paramahamsa and yogin) are used together in order to exclude someone

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The key to your quote is the phrase, ...is attached to amazing feats of yogic power Once the goal of Self Realization is reached, there is no more attachment to these 'amazing feats of yogic power'. Even

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snipHe later warns you will never attain CC/jivan- mukti if you practice samyama: In this way he (the samyama yogi) falls away from the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Seems like MMY likes all the benefits of having disciples, but he accepts none of the reponsibility of having disciples. sounds like saying

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread Vaj
On Jun 28, 2006, at 2:33 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Unfortunately that's not what the tradition (of Shankara) says. It   does say that this will prevent enlightenment in this lifetime: "The two terms ("paramahamsa" and "yogin")

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: ... Jim, on a personal note, nothing to do with points of discussion, etc, where and when did you take your siddhis course? You are in South Bay

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread new . morning
shempmcgurk wrote: In light of the fact that only 19 of 100 contacted had seen the movie, do you think it was fair of the AP to lead with: The nation's top climate scientists are giving 'An Inconvenient Truth,' Al Gore's documentary on global warming, five stars for accuracy. ? I am not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing MMY has never done is accept a formal disciple, as far as I can tell. Nandkashore is gunna be pissed when he finds this out. You might want to straighten out Purusha and Mother Divine on this point

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
You wrote regarding sidhis, --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip for the relative, they are perfections. what *isn't* perfection? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Seems like MMY likes all the benefits of having disciples, but he accepts

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's name

2006-06-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Seems like MMY likes all the benefits of having disciples, but he accepts

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You wrote regarding sidhis, --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip for the relative, they are perfections. what *isn't* perfection? The name of the town, pre-graboid days?

[FairfieldLife] Every Hour 330 Americans Reach 60

2006-06-28 Thread new . morning
Gives some idea of the strength of the Boomer wave. But is also eye-opening for jyotish. It means that about 330 or so people back in late 40's - 50s were born with same basic chart -- down to same ascendant (lattitude / logitude differences just mean they were not all born similtaneously). Only

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eternally Supportless Pure Consciousness and the Liberation of Individuality

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 28, 2006, at 2:33 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: [...] Unfortunately that's not what the tradition (of Shankara) says. It does say that this will

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- shempmcgurk wrote: Here's the article in question, Billie: http://tinyurl.com/hmron I, for one, would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: In light of the fact that only 19 of 100 contacted had seen the movie, do you think it was fair of the AP to lead with: The nation's top climate scientists are giving 'An Inconvenient

Re: [FairfieldLife] Every Hour 330 Americans Reach 60

2006-06-28 Thread Vaj
On Jun 28, 2006, at 4:01 PM, new.morning wrote:Gives some idea of the strength of the Boomer wave. But is also eye-opening for jyotish. It means that about 330 or so people back in late 40's - 50s  were born with same basic chart -- down to same ascendant (lattitude / logitude differences just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: In light of the fact that only 19 of 100 contacted had seen the movie, do you think it was fair of the AP to lead with: The nation's top climate scientists are giving 'An Inconvenient

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- shempmcgurk wrote: Here's the article in question, Billie: http://tinyurl.com/hmron I, for one, would indeed like to know

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- shempmcgurk wrote: Here's the article in question,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: In light of the fact that only 19 of 100 contacted had seen the movie, do you think it was fair of the AP to lead

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: In light of the fact that only 19 of 100 contacted had seen the movie, do you think it was fair of the AP to lead with: The nation's top climate scientists are giving 'An Inconvenient

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sacrifice of Wealth Is The Way

2006-06-28 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, surya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today, in the world everybody agrees that the real power is the money only. Money is the fruit of work and Bhagavatgita calls sacrifice of money Karma Phala Tyaga. In Bhagavatgita it is said Dhyanat Karma Phala Tyagah

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: In light of the fact that only 19 of 100 contacted had seen the movie, do you think it was fair of the AP to lead

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread Bhairitu
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: --- shempmcgurk wrote: Here's the article in question, Billie:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fear-monger Gore's wacky science debunked

2006-06-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

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