[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vajradhatu108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Effortless in TM spin was merely a way of saying it was easy. Later it became an amalgamated as part of the dogma--and we all simply believed. And yea the dogma became more important than the easiness, and yea the

[FairfieldLife] Re: How many of you agree with Chavez

2006-09-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So tonight on the news I saw Venezuelan President Chavez call Bush the Devil, claim he smelled sulphur from Bush being there from the previous day and then Chavez -- quite seriously -- crossed himself. I've heard

[FairfieldLife] Re: Effortlessness (Of Intention)

2006-09-21 Thread Robert Gimbel
(snip) Effortless in TM spin was merely a way of saying it was easy. Later it became an amalgamated as part of the dogma--and we all simply believed. I'd put it this way, before enlightenment all is effort and afterwards, by definition there is no effort. I always found TM to be easy, but

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Pope's speech on Faith and reason ( Theocracy Vs. De...

2006-09-21 Thread Robert Gimbel
(snip) I think it's entirely possible we've done such terrible damage to that country that we've made it impossible for the Iraqis to form a working democracy for many years to come, regardless of whether we stay or leave. How true... When Maharishi said, something about 'opening the gates of

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote: trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started a new thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :) --- In

[FairfieldLife] Yoni (yaw-knee) puuja

2006-09-21 Thread cardemaister
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[FairfieldLife] Financial Capital...

2006-09-21 Thread cardemaister
Just got an e-mail reading(?) that the new organisation for TM-movement in Finland shall be called Financial Capital of Finland Oy. WTF...? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups

[FairfieldLife] Names

2006-09-21 Thread housemousenet
I am not sure of the quality of this free-to-post article, but here it is: Hindu people take naming their children very seriously. They give their children names that will guide them to live a life of morality. The name is often reminiscent of divine qualities. Hindus often name their children

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The ultimate form of this enforced ignorance I'm talking about, of course, is when someone points out that the diehard TMer really doesn't know very much, they *admit* that they don't know very much, and then they

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote: trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started a new thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :) Good plan. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote: trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started a new thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :) --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thinking you know how TM is supposed to work in any given moment is just another Buddha to be slain (JABTBS). And yet YOU are the one who goes a little insane every time someone suggests that a little subtle intention

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: OF COURSE there is some subtle effort in TM. But don't tell the Duh folks here (Sparaig and Judy), because it's MUCH more fun watching them jump

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 9/20/06 9:16 AM, hermandan0 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started a new thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :) --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Quotes, please, from Lawson's and/or my posts in which we jump through hoops trying to tell everyone that Maharishi didn't mean what he said. What I said a few posts back was that if MMY said what Vaj claimed,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawson--study you might find of interest

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://polmeth.wustl.edu/retrieve.php?id=640 (PDF file) Alan Gerber and Neil Malhotra, Can political science literatures be believed? A study of publication bias in the APSR and the AJPS There's publication bias,

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] When effort is transcended, then the [meditation] process is what it is. It just is. Someone said it would not be meditation if the mantra does not appear, if some subtle effort is not made to go to the mantra.

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip [...] This may not be what occurs for beginning TMers, but I'd suggest that it becomes the case, for most people, at least, after some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fred's thalamic lecture

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for this link. It doesn't seem to me that this is more than the a priori claim that I used to make as a teacher, that TM is different from any other meditation. What is the sample size that Fred is

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: snip Related to TM, my view is that when the mind becomes aware,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip I find it hard to believe that ANY TM teacher was ever instructed to require

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote: snip Whatever the provenance of the Estes Park quote and whether it is referring to effortless thinking of the mantra, Maharishi still said what I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 9/20/06 10:18 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote: Quoting an earlier post from Vaj: At Estes Park Maharishi pointed out that there really

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Judy

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was listening to the news on the radio this morning and they had an excerpt from Venezuelan president Chavez's speech at the U.N. where he called Bush the Devil and that he still smelled the sulfur from his visit

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The problem is with the word efffort. It implies a focused trying which is not how you do TM. I think a better word would be intent. And even that isn't always necessary--perhaps never necessary. To subscribe,

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the thoughful and articulate response. Well said. My snips are due to brevity rather than assigning a value to certain parts. I like your analogy of the rooms. It works well, and fits with both experience

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hermandan0 wrote: trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started a new thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: This is almost as silly as suing McDonald's over cholesteral

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: California Sues GM, Ford, Toyota Over Global Warming (Update1)

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vajradhatu108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Technically speaking any process of meditation, subject and object which are transcended, will require a path and some effort, some intention. The only thing that is truly effortless is *nonmeditation.* Then

[FairfieldLife] The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread TurquoiseB
Something Sparaig said in another thread just solved the mystery of his posts for me. It's been so obvious for so long, and yet I just now got it. His compulsive participation here and on a.m.t. can be completely explained as having one simple source: the need to feel special. IMO, he and

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vajradhatu108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: [...] Only when we speak about our establishment in a non-dual state, and the path existing *within* the non-dual state, is any practice of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Current MUM Review

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://mum.edu/TheReview The Vedic Literature collection can be viewed at http://www.mum.edu/vedicreserve Illustrations at the index of each section of literature. I think they're taken from Tony Nader's rather

[FairfieldLife] Re: This is almost as silly as suing McDonald's over chol...

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/20/06 3:46:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: California Sues GM, Ford, Toyota Over Global Warming (Update1) I agree. These automakers lack of social responsibility is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness Sprang I liberally USE the delete key

2006-09-21 Thread WLeed3
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[FairfieldLife] Re: How many of you agree with Chavez

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So tonight on the news I saw Venezuelan President Chavez call Bush the Devil, claim he smelled sulphur from Bush being there from the previous day and then Chavez -- quite seriously -- crossed himself. I've heard

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment Tipping Point

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Aja aja@ wrote: We all move one step closer to that Reality. The Vision of One Million Awake Our Vision is to threefold: 1. To document and identify (via

[FairfieldLife] Re: How many of you agree with Chavez

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: So tonight on the news I saw Venezuelan President Chavez call Bush the Devil, claim he smelled sulphur from Bush being there from the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Effortlessness (Of Intention)

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) Effortless in TM spin was merely a way of saying it was easy. Later it became an amalgamated as part of the dogma--and we all simply believed. I'd put it this way, before enlightenment all is effort and

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Pope's speech on Faith and reason ( Theocracy Vs. De...

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) I think it's entirely possible we've done such terrible damage to that country that we've made it impossible for the Iraqis to form a working democracy for many years to come, regardless of whether we stay

[FairfieldLife] Re: Names

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, housemousenet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure of the quality of this free-to-post article, but here it is: Hindu people take naming their children very seriously. They give their children names that will guide them to live a life of morality.

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote: trying to follow new.mornings posting inspirations, i've started a new thread instead of intjecting this into the old one :) --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] is a paradox. Like a koan. is an essential element of it. Only if you worry about it. Intellectual discussions risk confusing people for no good reason. And one needed examine or even note the paradoxes (if

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: OF COURSE there is some subtle effort in TM. But don't tell the Duh folks here

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Thinking you know how TM is supposed to work in any given moment is just another Buddha to be slain (JABTBS). And yet YOU are the one who goes a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a relief in a way to have finally figured all this out. It's been obvious for quite a while, but I kept searching for some more noble reason for these guys to post as much as they do, as compulsively as they do.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something Sparaig said in another thread just solved the mystery of his posts for me. It's been so obvious for so long, and yet I just now got it. His compulsive participation here and on a.m.t. can be completely

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 stephen4359@ wrote: [...] is a paradox. Like a koan. is an essential element of it. Only if you worry about it. Intellectual discussions risk confusing people

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Current MUM Review

2006-09-21 Thread Peter
Medieval science at its best. I also find very funny how tony very conspicuously leaves out any mention of the genitals in mapping the body and the veda. --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Current MUM Review

2006-09-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Medieval science at its best. I also find very funny how tony very conspicuously leaves out any mention of the genitals in mapping the body and the veda. Remember the recent threads about castration? These illustrations

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: It's a relief in a way to have finally figured all this out. It's been obvious for quite a while, but I kept searching for some more noble reason

[FairfieldLife] FW: Devi Mandir FF 9 Days of Ganesh program schedule

2006-09-21 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Subject: 9 Days of Ganesh Programs-September 2006 Dear Friends and Devotees, We are very excited to announce that Pundit Samavedula will be arriving in Fairfield this week along with our new full-time temple priest, Pundit Sarathi. This marks a great milestone in Sri Devi Mandir's

[FairfieldLife] TMorg Expedience 'Taught to Lie'?

2006-09-21 Thread dhamiltony2k5
called it the SIMS Shuffle because lying was so prevalent amongst SIMS people or at least They lie? Or shuffle. Like in present days? They tell ShivaMa that the guidelines are the same and have been extended to cover even citizen sidhas now. David Hawthorne is then reject because he

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Just jivin', but it's true. Just look on this forum. You've got one TB trying to deny Maharishi's own words when he said there was a certain level of *obvious* subtle effort associated with TM. Which TB was

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip In my experience, the recognition that I am not thinking the mantra arises spontaneously, without any intention or mindfulness; and the mantra is

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip For the record, I think it's *fine* for you to believe that TM is completely effortless, even if many others -- having practiced it -- don't agree with you. What I'm interested in is WHY you get so emotional

[FairfieldLife] Re: How many of you agree with Chavez

2006-09-21 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: So tonight on the news I saw Venezuelan President Chavez call Bush the Devil, claim he smelled sulphur from Bush being there from the previous

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawson--study you might find of interest

2006-09-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: http://polmeth.wustl.edu/retrieve.php?id=640 (PDF file) Alan Gerber and Neil Malhotra, Can political science literatures be believed? A study of

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: [...] The problem is with the word efffort. It implies a focused trying which is not how you do TM. I think a better word would be intent. And even

[FairfieldLife] Re: Financial Capital...

2006-09-21 Thread larry.potter
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got an e-mail reading(?) that the new organisation for TM-movement in Finland shall be called Financial Capital of Finland Oy. WTF...? is that so?!, sounds very typical to TMO mind settings, as for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guys: who would you rather be molested by?

2006-09-21 Thread larry.potter
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter larry.potter@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something Sparaig said in another thread just solved the mystery of his posts for me. It's been so obvious for so long, and yet I just now got it. Whenever Barry prefaces one of his posts with the assertion that he's

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: It's a relief in a way to have finally figured all this out. It's been

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip We *insist* that it's effortless because it's our experience that it only *works* if it's effortless. It isn't a matter of belief. P.S.: Actually, Lawson maintains that effort is not needed, not that effortlessness

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: It's a relief in a way to have finally figured all this out. It's been obvious for quite a while, but I kept searching for some more noble reason

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: So much? I consistently make less than a third of the posts per month that either Judy and Sparaig make, less than a sixth of their output

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread TurquoiseB
That's a great analysis Turq. Congratulations! Now, did you also figure out why you post so much? So much? I consistently make less than a third of the posts per month that either Judy and Sparaig make, less than a sixth of their output combined. From Barry's tally a week or

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a great analysis Turq. Congratulations! Now, did you also figure out why you post so much? So much? I consistently make less than a third of the posts per month that either Judy and Sparaig make,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: It's a relief in a way to have finally figured all this out. It's been

[FairfieldLife] Now Its (Sadly) REALLY Official: FFL is AMT

2006-09-21 Thread new . morning
for sept 20-21 Approx 30 hours posts total % Cum % sparaig 56 213 26% 26% Judy33 213 15% 42% Shemp 24 213 11% 53% Turq12 213 6% 59% Several weeks ago when I did this spot 24 hour (or 100 post) check, These four

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread Peter
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a great analysis Turq. Congratulations! Now, did you also figure out why you post so much? So much? I consistently make less than a third of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, it would be far more interesting to do a word count for all posts, minus quotations or quoted articles, and I'm sure Turq will exceed both of you easily. Hey! No fair! If you weed out other people's quotes from

[FairfieldLife] Re: How many of you agree with Chavez

2006-09-21 Thread elastomeric_brotherhood
I think it is hyperbole to call Bush the Devil. But, I do think Bush and his supporters are spiritually much less evolved. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So tonight on the news I saw Venezuelan President Chavez call Bush the Devil, claim he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Now Its (Sadly) REALLY Official: FFL is AMT

2006-09-21 Thread TurquoiseB
Hey new.morning, I actually agree with you. But let's get more specific here. Since you're the one who wanted to set guidelines and enforce them, how many posts do YOU think I should limit myself to per day? Should I hold myself to your standard? During the month of September (so far) you

[FairfieldLife] invincibility update, Sep 20

2006-09-21 Thread feste37
SEPTEMBER 20: INVINCIBILITY UPDATE SOFTENING TRENDS IN THE MIDDLE EAST September 20, 2006 Today is the 29th day of the second month of U.S. national consciousness rising to invincibility, as indicated by the following press reports—which reveal an unmistakable softening in the once

[FairfieldLife] Re: How many of you agree with Chavez

2006-09-21 Thread new . morning
Elasto, For you, what precisely is a spiritual evolved person? What are some of their attributes? Do they include: Seeing others as us and them? Seeing yourself superior to many? Carrying a lot of judgements about others in your head? Viewing others with compassion? Seeing/living the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: It's a relief in a way to have finally figured all this out. It's been

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: It's a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: Judy, it would be far more interesting to do a word count for all posts, minus quotations or quoted articles, and I'm sure Turq will exceed both of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Now do a tally of what percentage of Lawson's and my posts have to do with defending TM, versus the percentage of yours that have to do with bashing TMers/TMO/MMY/the

[FairfieldLife] Re: How many of you agree with Chavez

2006-09-21 Thread larry.potter
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, elastomeric_brotherhood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is hyperbole to call Bush the Devil. But, I do think Bush and his supporters are spiritually much less evolved. now this statement makes you so evolved, wow. i admire your evolvo.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Now Its (Sadly) REALLY Official: FFL is AMT

2006-09-21 Thread TurquoiseB
Hey new.morning, I actually agree with you. But let's get more specific here. Since you're the one who wanted to set guidelines and enforce them, how many posts do YOU think I should limit myself to per day? Should I hold myself to your standard? During the month of September (so far) you sent

[FairfieldLife] Re: Financial Capital...

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, larry.potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: Just got an e-mail reading(?) that the new organisation for TM-movement in Finland shall be called Financial Capital of Finland Oy.

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: [...] The problem is with the word efffort. It implies a focused trying which is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lawson--study you might find of interest

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: http://polmeth.wustl.edu/retrieve.php?id=640 (PDF file) Alan Gerber and Neil

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So much? Yes, so much. Make a comparision of word counts. You must be mistaking quality for quantity. :-) And you must be mistaking length of posts and amount of silly speculation for quality. I don't so much

[FairfieldLife] Re: effortlessness

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip We *insist* that it's effortless because it's our experience that it only *works* if it's effortless. It isn't a matter of belief. P.S.:

[FairfieldLife] Post videos HTML

2006-09-21 Thread off_world_beings
Does anyone know how you could take a YouTube video and post it in a discussion like html posting area so that is just shows up. I am trying to see if I can do this for teaching classes. I can get images from a website to show up for the viewer but not videos. eg: img alt= border=0

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I don't so much reveal stupidity as much as shake the bushes and see what runs out. It would seem that every time I bring up the subject of spiritual

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: It's a relief in a way to have finally figured all this out. It's been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Now Its (Sadly) REALLY Official: FFL is AMT

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for sept 20-21 Approx 30 hours posts total % Cum % sparaig 56 213 26% 26% Judy 33 213 15% 42% Shemp 24 213 11% 53% Turq 12 213 6% 59%

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: So much? I consistently make less than a third of the posts per month that either

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Good point. I was thinking of this past week, the period since I posted the first top poster statistics. These are the stats for that period: authfriend - 112 / 12.4% of total posts sparaig - 135 / 14.9% of

[FairfieldLife] I Hate 55%off FFL Posts by Three Posters. Give them time-outs?

2006-09-21 Thread new . morning
Averages are useful, but not refelctive of the core problem, IMO. Tell someone on a jammed freeway at rush hour that the roads have ample capacity to handle average traffic you will probably be shot by a roadrager. My premise is that when somone beyond the AMT-three, frankly I think you have cut

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I deliberately keep my posts to one-liners, when possible--partly to avlid wasting bandwidth--and partly because many posts are s flawed that only a simple one-liner is able to point out the fundamental flaw. Not

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I mean, doesn't it imply that she believes TMers *are* superior? Of course not. It implies that *you* believe TMers are superior. You may have a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: So much? Yes, so much. Make a comparision of word counts. Ok. I responded to a post of yours with 10 lines of text and 92 words, which included a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TB mantras: UNIQUE and SUPERIOR

2006-09-21 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: So much? I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Now Its (Sadly) REALLY Official: FFL is AMT

2006-09-21 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for sept 20-21 Approx 30 hours posts total % Cum % sparaig 56 213 26% 26% Judy 33 213 15% 42% Shemp 24 213 11% 53% Turq 12 213 6% 59%

[FairfieldLife] Re: How many of you agree with Chavez

2006-09-21 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, elastomeric_brotherhood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is hyperbole to call Bush the Devil. But, I do think Bush and his supporters are spiritually much less evolved. ...than Chavez? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk

[FairfieldLife] Re: How many of you agree with Chavez

2006-09-21 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: So tonight on the news I saw Venezuelan President Chavez call Bush the Devil, claim he smelled sulphur from Bush being there from the previous

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