[FairfieldLife] Light is the essence of the Soul

2007-12-13 Thread cardemaister
saaMkhya-suutra I 145: Since light does not pertain to the unintelligent, light, [which must pertain to something or other, is the essence of the Soul, which, self- manifesting, manifests whatever else is manifest]. jaDaprakaashaayogaatprakaashaH (jaDa-prakaasha+ayogaat prakaashaH) Perhaps:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic architecture - the power of life-giving principles

2007-12-13 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a big pile of ridiculous shit! Higher states of consciousness would be a help for you.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do siddhis have ANYTHING to do with state of consciousness?

2007-12-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any more exactitude to the answer, especially down to a yes/no is too much ensconced in a materialistic worldview. The rarity of siddhis makes them more mysterious, it's the loving intimacy that matters most,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do siddhis have ANYTHING to do with state of consciousness?

2007-12-13 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Extrapolating from this, it seems to me that if MMY really wanted people to levitate, and was enlightened himself, what he'd do is sit them down in a room with him and demonstrate levitation. Their bodies would learn

[FairfieldLife] Software professionals take up cleaning of temples

2007-12-13 Thread Rama Krishna
After six days of working on the keyboard in air-conditioned glass-and-chrome buildings, a handful of software professionals rolled up their sleeves on Sundays to clean temples located near the city. These IT firms employees have joined heritage experts, conservationists and archaeologists of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do siddhis have ANYTHING to do with state of consciousness?

2007-12-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Extrapolating from this, it seems to me that if MMY really wanted people to levitate, and was enlightened himself, what he'd do is sit them down

Re: [FairfieldLife] The best TM research what am (The real test of the Anti-Science freaks on FFL)

2007-12-13 Thread Ken Wood
Experience+Knowledge. Then all the effects come. Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Off, There HAS been a study that you should take as authoritative, methinks, cuz, well, it's the kind of study that everyone on the planet learns how to conduct from BIRTH

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do siddhis have ANYTHING to do with state of consciousness?

2007-12-13 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When MMY claimed that if a person were to levitate it would indicate enlightenment, he was dangling a carrot to inspire his followers to achieve levitation - and subsequent recogniton within TMO circles as

[FairfieldLife] Re: better than siddhis: ice skating cowboys!

2007-12-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for the holidays: ice skating cowboys, ho ho ho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkp9OXAVD88 Wonderful, but SO gay. I'm betting that this video will be playing on the big-screen TVs of half the gay bars in Sitges

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do siddhis have ANYTHING to do with state of consciousness?

2007-12-13 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Extrapolating from this, it seems to me that if MMY really wanted people to levitate, and was enlightened himself, what he'd do is sit them down in a room with him and demonstrate levitation. Their bodies would learn

[FairfieldLife] [Norwegian] Fearless mouse

2007-12-13 Thread cardemaister
http://www.dagbladet.no/tv/index.html?clipid=24175

[FairfieldLife] better than siddhis: ice skating cowboys!

2007-12-13 Thread george_deforest
for the holidays: ice skating cowboys, ho ho ho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkp9OXAVD88

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pope v Gore

2007-12-13 Thread MDixon6569
Does the Pope also speak with an artificial lithp? **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304)

[FairfieldLife] Nineeleven: Most sad, See-Eye-Ey??

2007-12-13 Thread cardemaister
Ex-Italian President: Intel Agencies Know 9/11 An Inside Job Man who blew the whistle on Gladio tells Italy's largest newspaper attacks were run by CIA, Mossad Former Italian President and the man who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio Francesco Cossiga has gone public on 9/11, telling

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do siddhis have ANYTHING to do with state of consciousness?

2007-12-13 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Extrapolating from this, it seems to me that if MMY really wanted

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic architecture - the power of life-giving principles

2007-12-13 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a big pile of ridiculous shit! What about all the vedic houses that burned? What about all the failed businesses in vedic houses. Just a huge stinking pile of cult crap. Interesting story, but pure shit nonethe less.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nineeleven: Most sad, See-Eye-Ey??

2007-12-13 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ex-Italian President: Intel Agencies Know 9/11 An Inside Job Man who blew the whistle on Gladio tells Italy's largest newspaper attacks were run by CIA, Mossad Former Italian President and the man who revealed

[FairfieldLife] Re: GO RON PAUL ! ! !

2007-12-13 Thread Brian Horsfield
Richard, are you seriously supporting the McCain doctrine for continued war? Every candidate says they will end the war - like the Democrats said in 2006. The civilian death toll is close to one million by independant estimates using change in the death rates since the US invaded. And to a

[FairfieldLife] Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread dhamiltony2k5
front page of Fairfield Ledger, If it is published then it makes it true. Dec 11th Edition of the Ledger: Positive trends fulfill predictions for group meditation study. The results are in… From the first-ever scientific demonstration project to document the long-term positive effects of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic architecture - the power of life-giving principles

2007-12-13 Thread Peter
--- do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a big pile of ridiculous shit! What about all the vedic houses that burned? What about all the failed businesses in vedic houses. Just a huge stinking pile of cult crap.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pope v Gore

2007-12-13 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2t4nzy The *Pope* warning people about dubious ideology? Too funny!

[FairfieldLife] Re: [Norwegian] Fearless mouse

2007-12-13 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.dagbladet.no/tv/index.html?clipid=24175 If that video had been shot in our house, the subject line would have to be changed to [American]Well-fed cat.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Walk Hard clip: the Beatles with Maharishi spoofed

2007-12-13 Thread Peter
...almost as good as the Monkees!! --- george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: youtube preview of the upcoming rediculous comedy: Walk Hard: the Dewey Cox Story. featured in this clip: the Beatles visit to Maharishi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooX8nHa5rrc To

[FairfieldLife] It's true! Satan and Jesus ARE brothers...

2007-12-13 Thread shempmcgurk
[Jesus And Satan Illusion]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread off_world_beings
This is not published in a peer-reviewed respected scientific journal and no one in their right mind would give it credence until it is. That would be like Vaj claiming research that is not published under peer-review in a respected scientific journal is somehow comparable to that which is. It

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real test of the Anti-Science freaks on FFL

2007-12-13 Thread Angela Mailander
Yeah, I know you're right before starting. While I do react, I'm also independent of the reaction. Even so, I am pretty amazed at the lack of decent manners among people who claim an interest in the development of consciousness. And by manners I don't mean the prissy bullshit you'd find in a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic architecture - the power of life-giving principles

2007-12-13 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: What a big pile of ridiculous shit! What about all the vedic houses that burned? What about all the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Do siddhis have ANYTHING to do with state of consciousness?

2007-12-13 Thread Vaj
On Dec 13, 2007, at 5:54 AM, t3rinity wrote: Vaj or one of his friends expressed, that Samyama is not restricted to Siddhis, and that this was refereing to a higher technique to attain Samadhi. So I looked up in the commentary of Vyasa, and found that he said that beginners should practise not

[FairfieldLife] Why a personal Guru is necessary....

2007-12-13 Thread BillyG.
The personal Guru becomes the inner guide when the aspirant succeeds in rising above body consciousness (physical) and into the subtler realms of spirit; the astral and causal planes of existence (The three worlds are the entire field of relative existence, MMY Gita). Once the aspiring Yogi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread feste37
Since there has been some discussion about research on TM, I'm posting this recent press release from the University of Kentucky. It would be hard for even the most biased observer (and we have many on this board) not to recognize the value of this. The fact is, uncomfortable though it may be for

[FairfieldLife] TM reduces high blood pressure

2007-12-13 Thread nablusoss1008
The new meta-analysis was conducted by researchers at the http://www.mc.uky.edu/medicine/University of Kentucky College of Medicine and at the NIH-funded Institute of Natural Medicine and Prevention at Maharishi University of Management. The magnitude of the changes in blood pressure with the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do siddhis have ANYTHING to do with state of consciousness?

2007-12-13 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 13, 2007, at 5:54 AM, t3rinity wrote: Vaj or one of his friends expressed, that Samyama is not restricted to Siddhis, and that this was refereing to a higher technique to attain Samadhi. So I looked up in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since there has been some discussion about research on TM, I'm posting this recent press release from the University of Kentucky. It would be hard for even the most biased observer (and we have many on this board) not

[FairfieldLife] Re: GO RON PAUL ! ! !

2007-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
Brian Horsfield wrote: Richard, are you seriously supporting the McCain doctrine for continued war? So, we are agreed that the U.S. is in a war. Then, I'm thinking of voting for the candidate who can win the war, not lose it. Ron Paul has zero experience winning any wars and apparently has no

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do siddhis have ANYTHING to do with state of consciousness?

2007-12-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
Curtis, I'm *more* than open to suggestions from you or anyone else as to how these things could have been staged by a magician. I don't see that as being a relevant option when trying to explain away this particular guy's levitations. Your experiences are really compelling and I am not inclined

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: My bet is that the only people who will be taken in by this study are those who were taken in long ago, and are trying to avoid having to admit that they *were* taken in. So, how much would you be willing to wager? According to what I've read, there have been several

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Do siddhis have ANYTHING to do with state of consciousness?

2007-12-13 Thread Vaj
On Dec 13, 2007, at 11:29 AM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 13, 2007, at 5:54 AM, t3rinity wrote: Vaj or one of his friends expressed, that Samyama is not restricted to Siddhis, and that this was refereing to a higher

[FairfieldLife] Introduction and Invitation

2007-12-13 Thread Mary Ann
Hi All, I am a new member here, invited to join to learn more about your group, as well as post about a new group I am forming. I am starting a group to learn about the history of nonviolence and nonviolent resistance of oppression. I am using a textbook called Solutions to Violence, which

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread feste37
You are right about one of the two named authors of the press release, who is an MUM employee and an acquaintance of mine. So what? Whatever you say about it, the people who practice TM will continue to enjoy the benefits that come from lowering their blood pressure. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Since there has been some discussion about research on TM, I'm posting this recent press release from the University of Kentucky. It would be hard for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why a personal Guru is necessary....

2007-12-13 Thread Bhairitu
BillyG. wrote: The personal Guru becomes the inner guide when the aspirant succeeds in rising above body consciousness (physical) and into the subtler realms of spirit; the astral and causal planes of existence (The three worlds are the entire field of relative existence, MMY Gita). Once the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
According to what I've read, there have been several independent studies that indicate that the practice of TM lowers blood pressure. Vaj wrote: In many ways this is just like the TM coherence scam Like I said, your comments a highly biased. where they attempted to make a slight

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do siddhis have ANYTHING to do with state of consciousness?

2007-12-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
Me, too, but that would have taken away the conundrum aspect of it all, and most of the time I really *enjoy* that -- not knowing exactly what to think about it all. Being comfortable with ambiguity. That takes a bit of practice doesn't it? Thanks for the detailed response. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do siddhis have ANYTHING to do with state of consciousness?

2007-12-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis, I'm *more* than open to suggestions from you or anyone else as to how these things could have been staged by a magician. I don't see that as being a relevant option when trying to explain away this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread Vaj
On Dec 13, 2007, at 11:49 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: My bet is that the only people who will be taken in by this study are those who were taken in long ago, and are trying to avoid having to admit that they *were* taken in. So, how much would you be willing to wager?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
Vaj wrote: There's been a lot of desperation from the TM side as their science has been shown to be unsound, esp. their cardiac claims. This is merely another attempt to side-step those findings. The claim that TM lowers blood pressure is one of the most agreed on effects of the TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread Vaj
On Dec 13, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: According to what I've read, there have been several independent studies that indicate that the practice of TM lowers blood pressure. Vaj wrote: In many ways this is just like the TM coherence scam Like I said, your comments a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why a personal Guru is necessary....

2007-12-13 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You walk away from TM as I did many years ago and after a while I came across a guru here in the US through a friend. Basically a guru is someone who has mastered a path (sort of like mastering a guitar) and can teach

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread Vaj
On Dec 13, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Vaj wrote: There's been a lot of desperation from the TM side as their science has been shown to be unsound, esp. their cardiac claims. This is merely another attempt to side-step those findings. The claim that TM lowers blood

[FairfieldLife] Richard, are you a blood thirsty jingoist? (GO RON PAUL ! ! !)

2007-12-13 Thread Duveyoung
Richard, It seems you're being jingoistic. Extremely so. It is appalling and disturbing. I'm going to rip you a new one, so grab your ass, and see you can stand a look into the mirror. Of the 1000 people who read this, I'm guessing 950+ will agree with this assessment of your immoral

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do siddhis have ANYTHING to do with state o

2007-12-13 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Barry writes snipped: Me, too, but that would have taken away the conundrum aspect of it all, and most of the time I really *enjoy* that -- not knowing exactly what to think about it all. TomT: My experience is that the only thing I know for sure is I DONT KNOW! appears to be the operative word

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do siddhis have ANYTHING to do with state o

2007-12-13 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
T3rinity writes snipped: Samayama on the lower forms would thus prepare the nervous system. purify it and make it subtle, which is its only purpose. Enlightenment itself cannot be given. It comes by itself by the recognition of the Self by Itself, so only purification is most important. So, to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Richard, are you a blood thirsty jingoist? (GO RON PAUL ! ! !)

2007-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
Duveyoung wrote: We invaded Iraq immorally, illegally, with brutal murderous intent and with stealing oil as our true reason for doing so. The U.S. Senate voted 77-23 to authorize the President to use force to unseat Saddam Hussein. The majority of the leaders in Great Britain and Australia

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why a personal Guru is necessary....

2007-12-13 Thread Bhairitu
BillyG. wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You walk away from TM as I did many years ago and after a while I came across a guru here in the US through a friend. Basically a guru is someone who has mastered a path (sort of like mastering a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Richard, are you a blood thirsty jingoist? (GO RON PAUL ! ! !)

2007-12-13 Thread Bhairitu
He lives under a bridge. What would you expect? I don't know how he gets any HDTV reception with rabbit ears under a bridge. :D Duveyoung wrote: Richard, It seems you're being jingoistic. Extremely so. It is appalling and disturbing.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why a personal Guru is necessary....

2007-12-13 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you want is an archarya. Preferably a tantra archarya since there is no support for the renunciate path in the west. They have the capabilities to do what you are saying though most of it is quite simple but

[FairfieldLife] Re: Richard, are you a blood thirsty jingoist? (GO RON PAUL ! ! !)

2007-12-13 Thread Duveyoung
Richard, Come on. You've increased your posting here recently and seem to be trying to actually communicate instead of, you know, like me, rant and run. But for you to cite the Senate vote as justification for war is sheer disingeniuity. Are you forgetting the WMD lies? Who cares if Saddam

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread feste37
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Since there has been some discussion about research on TM, I'm posting this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 13, 2007, at 1:35 PM, feste37 wrote: The argument isn't over TM and blood pressure, it's (1) how the TMO sees science as just a tool to be manipulated to sell its products and (2) how TBs point to blood pressure study to prove TM works really meaning everything MMY says about anything

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Richard, are you a blood thirsty jingoist? (GO RON PAUL ! ! !)

2007-12-13 Thread Angela Mailander
It does make Edg seem unhinged, but I politely suggested to Richard that investigating 9/11 as a possible inside job was a patriotic thing to do, a necessary thing to do if we want to keep our democracy, rather than a conspiracy nut case thing to do, and he never responded. So maybe Edg's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread feste37
No it is not. If you are reduced to claiming that someone really meant something quite different from what he actually wrote, there is no possibility of any meaningful discusssion. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 13, 2007, at 1:35 PM, feste37

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
But isn't that really what you meant, feste? Most here would agree (and have many times in the past) that TM has positive effects on BP-- it's one of the main reason many of us started. It's the other ludicrous claims that most rational meditators can't bring themselves to take

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 13, 2007, at 2:10 PM, feste37 wrote: No it is not. If you are reduced to claiming that someone really meant something quite different from what he actually wrote, there is no possibility of any meaningful discusssion. OK, suit yourself. But that seems to be the subtext behind the

[FairfieldLife] The Earth And Its People - lecture by Charlie Lutes

2007-12-13 Thread do.rflex
The Earth And Its People - 8/14/81 When on Earth, as in the present age, the number of demonic or destructive people is rapidly increasing, as a result natural disturbances are also increasing - such as cyclones, hurricanes, too much heat, heavy snowfalls, volcanoes, tidal waves, earthquakes,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Richard, are you a blood thirsty jingoist? (GO RON PAUL ! ! !)

2007-12-13 Thread Duveyoung
You're right, of coursesweet truth and all that, but I reserve my right to be a thorn in the face of a briar patch. I love to use concepts at both ends of the spectrum. If I thought anyone was taking me seriously here, I'd have to reconsider this position, but who cares about my words?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why a personal Guru is necessary....

2007-12-13 Thread Bhairitu
BillyG. wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you want is an archarya. Preferably a tantra archarya since there is no support for the renunciate path in the west. They have the capabilities to do what you are saying though most of it is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No it is not. If you are reduced to claiming that someone really meant something quite different from what he actually wrote, there is no possibility of any meaningful discusssion. You said the blood pressure study proved

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do siddhis have ANYTHING to do with state of consciousness?

2007-12-13 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 13, 2007, at 5:54 AM, t3rinity wrote: Vaj or one of his friends expressed, that Samyama is not restricted to Siddhis, and that this was refereing to a higher technique to attain Samadhi. So I looked up in the

[FairfieldLife] The Coming of the New World - lecture by Charlie Lutes (c1981)

2007-12-13 Thread do.rflex
It can be said that our world is really many worlds containing people at various levels of consciousness and behavior patterns, living within different geographical environments. So what may be truth for one level of consciousness and for one environment is probably not true for another. Some

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Earth And Its People - lecture by Charlie Lutes

2007-12-13 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Earth And Its People - 8/14/81 When on Earth, as in the present age, the number of demonic or destructive people is rapidly increasing, as a result natural disturbances are also increasing - such as cyclones,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Richard, are you a blood thirsty jingoist? (GO RON PAUL ! ! !)

2007-12-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, of coursesweet truth and all that, but I reserve my right to be a thorn in the face of a briar patch. I am not even advocating only sweet truth here. I read your posts. But this kind of attack shuts

[FairfieldLife] Re: Do siddhis have ANYTHING to do with state of consciousness?

2007-12-13 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Dec 13, 2007, at 5:54 AM, t3rinity wrote: Vaj or one of his friends expressed, that Samyama is not restricted to Siddhis, and that this was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
Vaj wrote: Don't you know you're supposed to read the posts before responding? Vaj wrote: In many ways this is just like the TM coherence scam where they attempted to make a slight up-click in waking state coherence appear significant.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 13, 2007, at 2:14 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I wonder if many movement people have any issues with BP? I would think that with a health conscious group this would be kind of a non issue. Certainly not enough to spend this much time on. Eat well, exercise, and hope you don't have a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Richard, are you a blood thirsty jingoist? (GO RON PAUL ! ! !)

2007-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote: He lives under a bridge. Maybe so, but I didn't vote for a loser like John Kerry. However, it should be noted that Kerry is a Vietnam Vet and voted to authorize the President to use force to unseat Saddam, so it looks like you're the jigoistic one in this topic. Ed will or

[FairfieldLife] Re: GO RON PAUL ! ! !

2007-12-13 Thread Brian Horsfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Horsfield wrote: Richard, are you seriously supporting the McCain doctrine for continued war? So, we are agreed that the U.S. is in a war. Then, I'm thinking of voting for the candidate who can win

[FairfieldLife] Re: Richard, are you a blood thirsty jingoist? (GO RON PAUL ! ! !)

2007-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
Angela Mailander wrote: It does make Edg seem unhinged, but I politely suggested to Richard that investigating 9/11 as a possible inside job was a patriotic thing to do, a necessary thing to do if we want to keep our democracy, rather than a conspiracy nut case thing to do, and he never

[FairfieldLife] Re: Richard, are you a blood thirsty jingoist? (GO RON PAUL ! ! !)

2007-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote: Yup, Richard is a masochist (in case anyone hasn't figured that out by now). And you too, seem to come unhinged whenever we discuss politics.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Earth And Its People - lecture by Charlie Lutes

2007-12-13 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: I am That and That I am, and I will always be so. ~~ Lectures by Charlie Lutes http://www.maharishiphotos.com/lecture1.html Thanks for

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Earth And Its People - lecture by Charlie Lutes

2007-12-13 Thread pranamoocher
Gotta love Charlie. He was like a Billy Graham lite to the throngs of TB's (me included), with a charm and demeanor that uplifted and inspired everyone, it certainly was genuine. I always enjoyed listening to his talks and being around him even if his ideas seemed a little Urantia-ish. The main

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes encounters MMY

2007-12-13 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Links to additional chapters at the end! From The Himalayas to Hollywood A Personal Account of Maharishi's Early Days By Charles F. Lutes As Told to Martin Zucker © 2006 Martin Zucker This Link:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Richard, are you a blood thirsty jingoist? (GO RON PAUL ! ! !)

2007-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
Duveyoung wrote: There's millions of Arabs here already -- where's the terrorism? Well, there have been no terrorist attacks on U.S. soil since 9/11, so I guess the present plan is working. But, we need to secure our borders and send all the illegal aliens back to where they came from. In Iraq

[FairfieldLife] Re: Richard, are you a blood thirsty jingoist? (GO RON PAUL ! ! !)

2007-12-13 Thread Brian Horsfield
Oh pull the other one! Popular Mechanic is owned by Hearst whose founder coined the term yellow journalism. It is all about defending the military industrial complex. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Angela Mailander wrote: It does make

[FairfieldLife] Re: GO RON PAUL ! ! !

2007-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
So, we are agreed that the U.S. is in a war. Brian Horsfield wrote: You miss the point. Wars against non nation state enemies are pretty much unwinnable since there is no definable enemy. You have to essentially kill everybody to truly declare victory. Not everybody, Brian, just the

[FairfieldLife] Re: GO RON PAUL ! ! !

2007-12-13 Thread Brian Horsfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, we are agreed that the U.S. is in a war. Brian Horsfield wrote: You miss the point. Wars against non nation state enemies are pretty much unwinnable since there is no definable enemy. You have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Richard, are you a blood thirsty jingoist? (GO RON PAUL ! ! !)

2007-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
Brian Horsfield wrote: Popular Mechanic is owned by Hearst whose founder coined the term yellow journalism. It is all about defending the military industrial complex. A red herring is a metaphor for a diversion or distraction from an original objective.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Richard, are you a blood thirsty jingoist? (GO RON PAUL ! ! !)

2007-12-13 Thread Angela Mailander
Well, Edg, I've been meaning to tell you that I do enjoy your writing and the good heart of it. I don't always agree, but I do love good writing. Turq does it also as do Deltablues and Bhairitu. Good writing regardless of opinions expressed. Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Coming of the New World - lecture by Charlie Lutes (c1981)

2007-12-13 Thread Angela Mailander
Is Charlie saying that the poor and the desperate are born, not nurtured by economic policies? Seems a pretty important question to me. do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It can be said that our world is really many worlds containing people at various levels

[FairfieldLife] Re: GO RON PAUL ! ! !

2007-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
Brian Horsfield wrote: You call Vietnam a Victory? South Korea? We were not defeated in Viet Nam, Brian, we were defeated in the streets of Berkley. America's involvement in Vietnam was a noble cause - the U.S signed an armistice in Paris. The North Koreans have been held at 37th parallel. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Coming of the New World - lecture by Charlie Lutes (c1981)

2007-12-13 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Charlie saying that the poor and the desperate are born, not nurtured by economic policies? Seems a pretty important question to me. I don't see anywhere in that lecture that Charlie said or even remotely

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread feste37
I make no claims to being a precise thinker. When I wrote that TM works I was referring to that study and others that show it produces measurable physiological changes that are correlated with improved health and well-being. The exaggerated claims you ascribe to me are entirely your invention.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Coming of the New World - lecture by Charlie Lutes (c1981)

2007-12-13 Thread Angela Mailander
When I read a sentence like this, “Countries where there is terrible unrest, riots, revolutions, etc. indicate that these places are heavily inhabited by such destructive people who are causing turmoil wherever they are” I wonder if this includes countries like the ones in the Southern Cone

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Coming of the New World - lecture by Charlie Lutes (c1981)

2007-12-13 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I read a sentence like this, Countries where there is terrible unrest, riots, revolutions, etc. indicate that these places are heavily inhabited by such destructive people who are causing turmoil wherever they

[FairfieldLife] Re: GO RON PAUL ! ! !

2007-12-13 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Horsfield wrote: Richard, are you seriously supporting the McCain doctrine for continued war? So, we are agreed that the U.S. is in a war. Then, I'm thinking of voting for the candidate who can win

[FairfieldLife] Re: GO RON PAUL ! ! !

2007-12-13 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Horsfield wrote: You call Vietnam a Victory? South Korea? We were not defeated in Viet Nam, Brian, we were defeated in the streets of Berkley. ROTFLMAO ! ! ! Get real. You lost in Vietnam.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Coming of the New World - lecture by Charlie Lutes (c1981)

2007-12-13 Thread Angela Mailander
This is my last post of the week, so here goes: A knowledge of history, or a question as to how certain philosophies might be misused, is not tantamount to fear. I do not have my head in the sand, and I have lived on this planet for 67 years in six different cultures with my eyes open. I also

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 13, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: According to what I've read, there have been several independent studies that indicate that the practice of TM lowers blood pressure. Vaj wrote: In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Since there has been some discussion about research on TM, I'm posting this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off's kind of TMmovement research published

2007-12-13 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 13, 2007, at 2:10 PM, feste37 wrote: No it is not. If you are reduced to claiming that someone really meant something quite different from what he actually wrote, there is no possibility of any

[FairfieldLife] Merry Christmas!

2007-12-13 Thread Alex Stanley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fe11OlMiz8

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