As usual, nicely said, Stu. In a way it's going
to be a pity when the strike is settled and you
get back to overwork and aren't able to post as
much here. But we'll have new episodes of PD to
comfort us. :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is an irony
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wvansant111 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
With the recent photos of the
leadership now splashed all over the world, how anyone in their
right mind can take these people seriously and not see them as
faux-Hindu wannabe's is beyond me. They look so
ALLAHABAD: Amidst chanting of Vedic hymns, the mortal remains of
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the founder of Transcendental Meditation movement, were
consigned to flames at the Arail ashram on Monday.
The pyre was lit by Maharishi's nephew Girish Verma in the presence of his
successor Tony
Art of Living Guru Sri Sri Ravi Shankar pays homage during the funeral of
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in Allahabad, India, Monday, Feb. 11, 2008. Thousands of
followers chanted hymns Monday as the body of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the guru
celebrated for bringing meditation to the West,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
I can relate to Blaine's post. Devotion to a guru is different
than love for a woman in many ways, but is similar in that
ordinary experiences which
please thank Blaine for this-- quite an interesting and well written
anecdote from an open hearted soul. also enjoyed Shemp's color
commentary on it...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From Blaine Watson:
Skipping ahead now to 1986 and another
Perhaps you would have had better results using his real name.
Try yeshua and see what happens?
Fred
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
I still like my idea that
The we figured out which mantras are good concept/assertion might
fly if the lifestyles and moralities of the leaders of the TMO were
beyond reproach. Maybe that could be a foundation of justifying a
belief in the sacredness of the mantras if we could just see anyone
ANYONE living a life that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boyboy_8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It reveals that the Children of Israel were easily tempted to
follow just about anything going, including all the mishigas
(nonsense) of the Egyptian, Cananite, Phillistine religions.
They loved 'em all. Like a child in
I thought I had read that some time ago.
Thanks.
Fred
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 12, 2008, at 3:40 PM, boyboy_8 wrote:
Thought:
there is an assumption within TMO and MMY's teachings that using
his
specific mantra formulations is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity
ruthsimplicity@ wrote:
snip
I suppose I could speak more precisely as you clearly value
precision.
I think it's particularly important in this context.
The
Thought:
there is an assumption within TMO and MMY's teachings that using his
specific mantra formulations is the ONLY trustworthy way of assuring
the correct transcendental pathway to enlightenment, etc.
What happens if there are non-TM mantra-like sounds that can lead the
individual to
From a friend:
I haven't really talked to people about what they thought about the future
of the movement. But, just this AM in meditation that kind of thought
showed up. That is, I had never thought about what would happen and just
this AM it forced itself into my mind. When stuff does that,
I had read Yogananda before I was encouraged by a TM friend to try
TM. I was afraid but did not really know why. Finally I screwed up
the courage and went along to an introductory lecture. I will leave
off comments for now about who the lecture was done by and my
relationship to that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bwaytheatrediva
bwaytheatrediva@ wrote:
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I have no desire to kill myself.
Even if I did, my family and friendss would definitely care. And
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wvansant111 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wvansant111
wvansant111@
wrote:
I understand what folks are trying to saying about MSAE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
Curtis,
Out of my great love for you, I will, henceforth, try to write
worst
than you.
Edg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Curtis,
Out of my great love for you, I will, henceforth, try to write worst
than you.
Edg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
Thanks Nabby.
Alright Edg, Mr.
Amazing moment the world's biggest Christ was struck by lightningLast updated
at 21:25pm on 12th February 2008
This was the dramatic scene as the world's largest statue of Jesus was hit by
lightning. The bolt parted the thunderclouds over Rio de Janeiro, Brazil,
to strike Christ the
---You worked at the W. LA Center? Which one: Pacific Palisades or
the one on Santa Monica Blvd? I hung around there until 1981.
The people it (TM - or any other meditation technique) works for are
IMO those with some meditation experience in previous lives. This may
include a strong
On Feb 12, 2008, at 4:45 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
I am getting lost in the grievances thread and thought I would start
a new topic so I can find my post later on. Judy got me thinking
about the rewards of TM when we were talking about whether a technique
of effortless transcending would have
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On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Photo Project
I'll do it, Rick. Because the text is nicely done,
what I will do is copy them all --
So, there is at least some indication that a large number quit before
they arguably gave it a chance. TM researchers should have been
interested in this phenomenon. They could have studied how long it
took for most people to have perceptible positive results. Then they
could have passed that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
---You worked at the W. LA Center? Which one: Pacific Palisades
or the one on Santa Monica Blvd? I hung around there until 1981.
The phone poll was done when I was working at the
center at 1015 Gayley in Westwood.
---HI worked at 1015 Gayley from 1970-Dec. 1973 but got fired
by Jerry in late 1973 due to talking too much about different Gurus.
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor
matrixmonitor@ wrote:
On Feb 12, 2008, at 6:30 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
Vaj, I don't think there is enough research to conclude how many
suffer from adverse effects. it just hasn't had the interest of
scientists. But I do think that the whole concept of unstressing is
troubling as I don't know how it could be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 12, 2008, at 4:45 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
snip
Could it be that the simple TM technique just doesn't work
for a lot of people?
It would depend how you define work. Many quit becasue of
side effects from TM:
I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bwaytheatrediva
bwaytheatrediva@ wrote:
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I have no desire to kill myself.
Even if I did, my family and friendss would definitely care.
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of The Secret
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 6:50 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Photo Project
The photos are persistent.
If that means that they’ll continue to be at that link
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To call him a fraud is simplistic. To me, he was a field of all
possibilities, which included fraudulence, genuineness, cruelty,
compassion,
deceitfulness, sincerity, foolishness, wisdom, etc. When you weigh
it all in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
steve.sundur@ wrote:
Hi Blaine,
I looked ahead at some of the remarks, and saw Shemp's comments. I
have had similiar experiences with Maharishi.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:46 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Photo Project
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Blaine,
I looked ahead at some of the remarks, and saw Shemp's comments. I
have had similiar experiences with Maharishi. Looking back, I see
that on many occassions, I had whipped myself into a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, there is at least some indication that a large number quit before
they arguably gave it a chance. TM researchers should have been
interested in this phenomenon. They could have studied how long it
took for
To call him a fraud is simplistic. To me, he was a field of all
possibilities, which included fraudulence, genuineness, cruelty, compassion,
deceitfulness, sincerity, foolishness, wisdom, etc. When you weigh it all in
the balance, the positives far outweigh the negatives, IMO.
No virus found in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am getting lost in the grievances thread and thought I would start
a new topic so I can find my post later on. Judy got me thinking
about the rewards of TM when we were talking about whether a technique
of
One of the posts today mentioned Jerry. Got me thinking.did Jerry attend
the funeral rites
in India? Does anybody know?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of The Secret
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 6:54 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why do I think this man was a fraud?
--- In HYPERLINK
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret L.Shaddai@
wrote:
Is there somethng wrong with me? Is it the
fact that I thought this was a hustle and decided to not apply for
teacher training?
This
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Going from memory here, but IIRC, Omre-Johnson doesn't even note
one important thing
about how the study is quoted. It never says that that 70% of people
who start TM have
problems. Instead, it lists teh percentage
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, abutilon108 abutilon108@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
I think the special sounds
business was only important for
---To Sticheau: Thanks. I copied your paragraph (below) and just
now e mailed it to Jerry Jarvis.
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sticheau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins
bencollins@ wrote:
Jerry was great! He is,as always, a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, benjaminccollins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jerry was great! He is,as always, a sincerely spiritual person and I
see him there from time to time. He's still doing TM and as devoted
as ever (I doubt anything would change that) although...and this is my
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of yifuxero
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:25 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Vows of the Medicine Master
Some good perspectives.
Though many would find it difficult to digest his style of
functioning...
==
February 11, 2008
During my late teens, a few of us were sitting with Maharishi Mahesh
Yogi in Switzerland [Images]. Maharishi was being briefed about some
problems in the Transcendental
I am going to throw one more thing out there, and then I am outtahere
until late tomorrow. There has been several discussions on TM and
religion over the past couple of days. There also has been discussions
about whether TM or other effortless meditation techniques were used
in the ancient world.
Some good perspectives.
Though many would find it difficult to digest his style of
functioning...
==
February 11, 2008
During my late teens, a few of us were sitting with Maharishi Mahesh
Yogi in Switzerland [Images]. Maharishi was being briefed about some
problems in the Transcendental
Shaman Flying in Mexico:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gNbe0YWXUuc
OffWorld
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On Behalf Of yifuxero
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:25 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Vows of the Medicine Master Buddha
Moreover, Manjushri, when Medicine Master Vaidurya Light Tathagata
Ever get to the west coast? We should hang.
This must happen. Please email me some digits to we can talk.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
The key to the fulfillment
your denial sounds pretty presumptuous to me Curtis...
Denial that religious people might feel this way about Maharishi's
grand claim, or denial that you are Jim?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The key to the fulfillment of every religion is found in the practice
of transcendental meditation.
This meditation is no threat to the authority of priests or
ministers. It is something which belongs to their
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The key to the fulfillment of every religion is found in the
practice
of transcendental meditation.
This meditation is no threat to the authority of priests or
ministers. It is something which belongs to their
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Amazing moment the world's biggest Christ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TTnjzdnQmgYfeature=related
OffWorld
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
http://web.archive.org/web/20020802224530/minet.org/mantras.html
Looks like you are right Lawson. In '61 there was a different mantra
for men and women.
Ram for dudes and Shiriram for chicks
By 69 it shifted
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
---To Sticheau: Thanks. I copied your paragraph (below) and just
now e mailed it to Jerry Jarvis.
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sticheau sticheau@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
The key to the fulfillment of every religion is found in the practice
of transcendental meditation.
This meditation is no threat to the authority of priests or
ministers. It is something which belongs to their religions but which
has been forgotten for many centuries.
That's just super!
That's a ridiculous question. Of course it
doesn't/does. Just depends on your experience. I've
done it for 36 years. Yes, it works for me. In fact,
I'm really, really good at it! I sit quietly for a few
minutes, start the mantra as a faint intention and the
mind gets quieter and quieter and then
On Feb 12, 2008, at 7:01 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
Ha! I am headed the other way tomorrow morning, DCA to LAX, enjoying
7 plus $@*# hours in the air.
Looked at my itinerary: no indication of a movie, and food is listed
as food available for purchase. Sheesh.
A carry on with snacks,
My daughter was initiated around six months ago. She said that she
tried it for one month at the University where she lives and attends
then quit because it, according to her, just didn't give her what she
wanted. I'm not sure what that was but she insisted that it didn't
work or do what she had
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
Not all effects of the practice of meditation are beneficial.
Shapiro
(1992) found that 62.9% of the subjects reported adverse effects
during and
Here are but a few of the vows that he made.
Vows of the Medicine Buddha:1. I vow that my body shall shine as
beams of brilliant light on this infinite and boundless world,
showering on all beings, ridding them of ignorance and worries with
my teachings. May all beings be like me, with a
http://web.archive.org/web/20020802224530/minet.org/mantras.html
Looks like you are right Lawson. In '61 there was a different mantra
for men and women.
Ram for dudes and Shiriram for chicks
By 69 it shifted to the age based system we know and love, but in a
much more limited form.
The claim
Lurk:
So,if Shemp wants to poke fun at those of us going down a slightly
different path, have at it.
Shemp:
It's not a slightly different path, Lurk, with all due respect.
I do the TM Program; what Blaine is describing is 180 degrees
different from what I do.
Lurk:
All I meant Shemp, is
The claim that MMY gave out only one mantra in the beginning flies
in the face of Paul
Mason's own publications about how Gurudev explained that certain
mantras were not
suitable for women, OM, specifically.
Lawson
What was the rationale? Any particular mantras not suitable for men?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The photos are persistent.
If that means that they'll continue to be at that link
indefinitely, Barry could save himself the effort and we
could just link to that page in the Links section.
I wouldn't bet on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not all effects of the practice of meditation are beneficial. Shapiro
(1992) found that 62.9% of the subjects reported adverse effects
during and after transcendental meditation and 7.4% experienced
profoundly adverse
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the special sounds
business was only important for branding. I thought in the beginning
of teaching in India Maharishi only used the mantra Raam? Later the
articulated system came out which would have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 12, 2008, at 6:30 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
Vaj, I don't think there is enough research to conclude how many
suffer from adverse effects. it just hasn't had the interest of
scientists. But I do think that the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/DoesTMDoAnyHarm/in
dex.cfm#Otis_New
http://tinyurl.com/33mx6p
Going from memory here, but IIRC, Omre-Johnson doesn't even note one important
thing
about
I know when I was a TB I could find a way to justify anything that MMY
did. I had, or needed to have, blind faith in him. I could come up
with all kinds of reasons now as well that would preserve MMYs image
as a perfect, infallible teacher whose every action was calculated to
bring about
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On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:46 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Photo Project
--- In HYPERLINK
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow, those guys are in their mid-twenties? Time to stop thinking
about them as boys. I taught Ben Este, Ben Kaplan, Jesse Narducci,
etc. You're right they're a bit older than Daniel Mescon and Erin.
Most, though
I'll do it, Rick. Because the text is nicely done,
what I will do is copy them all -- photos and text --
into one large Microsoft Word file, and then you
can place it in the archives in a zipped format.
I think that might be more space-efficient than
just posting the photos, and the photos alone
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am getting lost in the grievances thread and thought I would
start
a new topic so I can find my post later on. Judy got me thinking
about the rewards of TM when we were talking about whether a
technique
of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity
ruthsimplicity@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
TM can't *force* independent researchers to attempt
replication of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am getting lost in the grievances thread and thought I would
start a new topic so I can find my post later on. Judy got me
thinking about the rewards of TM when we were talking about whether
a technique of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as objectivity, I would say I am as objective as anyone here. We
all view the world through our own experiences.
Yes, how could anyone ever be completely objective? IMO objectivity
doesn't really exist!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boyboy_8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some responses:
But that isn't the distinction, at least not the one
we were discussing. It's between *names* of personal
gods and *mantras* associated with personal gods.
Your comment reminds me of this: in J,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boyboy_8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, even now I still get confused between Brahma and Brahman.
Perhaps Brahman is closer to the J conception of God. Maybe.
There are similarities.
Very strong similarities, particularly in terms
of the Kabbalistic
---Such studies are interesting, but where are the real Siddhis? A
bonafide demonstration of a Siddhi will really shake things up.
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In
Hagen, you are in the same boat as other forced expatriates of the TMO like
Lutes and Jarvis and so many many others. Just remember that the road one walks
is always directly under ones own feet and nowhere else. There's not even a
whit of value in asking who made it, why it's there or anything
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boyboy_8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thought:
there is an assumption within TMO and MMY's teachings
that using his specific mantra formulations is the ONLY
trustworthy way of assuring the correct transcendental
pathway to enlightenment, etc.
That may be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bwaytheatrediva
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I have no desire to kill myself.
Even if I did, my family and friendss would definitely care. And
please stop attacking me.
Whatever you say Shemp.
wvansant111
bwaytheatrediva
A TM-Teacher in a German list wrote, that Maharishi, being asked by a
journalist, what would happen, if once he was not there amongst us, gave the
answer, that this knowledge would not be dependent on him and that those, who
followed the illuminated path would definitely reach the goal.
My
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boyboy_8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps you would have had better results using his real name.
Try yeshua and see what happens?
I dunno. My reason for choosing Jesus was that I
had positive associations with it, whereas I don't
with Yeshua. (In fact, I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity
ruthsimplicity@ wrote:
snip
The TMO back in the early 70s when I learned TM, certainly
How would someone like to go to HYPERLINK
http://tinyurl.com/3xhm7qhttp://tinyurl.com/3xhm7q, right-click on all the
photos, download them, and then upload them to the photos section of FFL?
Nabby? Does that Yahoo photos page disappear after a while or is it
permanent?
No virus found in this
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boyboy_8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, even now I still get confused between Brahma and Brahman.
Perhaps
Brahman is closer to the J conception of God. Maybe. There are
similarities.
re: Gitaoh, I'd love to get my hands on that.pretty
There's also the fact that a spiritual master is
supposedly leading his/her disciples to God. When
the devotion is apparently to the guru rather than
to God, that also looks a little strange. In theory,
the devotee is seeing God in the guru, but again,
if one hasn't experienced it, it
HYPERLINK http://tinyurl.com/3xhm7qhttp://tinyurl.com/3xhm7q
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On Feb 12, 2008, at 3:40 PM, boyboy_8 wrote:
Thought:
there is an assumption within TMO and MMY's teachings that using his
specific mantra formulations is the ONLY trustworthy way of assuring
the correct transcendental pathway to enlightenment, etc.
What happens if there are non-TM
On Feb 12, 2008, at 3:45 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
I did ask if anyone was aware of effortless transcending
techniques outside of TM but no clear answer as of yet.
There's been lengthy discussion on this topic before. MMY has stated
that TM is not effortless. It is however very easy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you for posting this. If there, by some struck of fortune,
happens to be some dignity left you would collect all these
marvelous and personal stories, including those from Ravi
Shankar and the Chopra family
On Feb 12, 2008, at 2:41 PM, boyboy_8 wrote:
Some responses:
But that isn't the distinction, at least not the one
we were discussing. It's between *names* of personal
gods and *mantras* associated with personal gods.
Your comment reminds me of this: in J, sometimes we can make use of
one
It reveals that the Children of Israel were easily tempted to follow
just about anything going, including all the mishigas (nonsense) of
the Egyptian, Cananite, Phillistine religions. They loved 'em all.
Like a child in a candy store. Look but do not touch was too weak.
It was Do not look,
TurquoiseB wrote:
The TM mantras -- over time -- cause otherwise intelligent
people to do things and say things and believe things that
99.99% of the people on planet Earth consider laughable
or pitiable or both. The TM mantras create gullibility and
an almost total lack of discrimination.
Yes, even now I still get confused between Brahma and Brahman. Perhaps
Brahman is closer to the J conception of God. Maybe. There are
similarities.
re: Gitaoh, I'd love to get my hands on that.pretty please?
Fred
[snip]
Thank you for posting this. If there, by some struck of fortune,
happens to be some dignity left you would collect all these marvelous
and personal stories, including those from Ravi Shankar and the
Chopra family in a folder on FFL.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@
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