[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Doughney m...@... wrote: [...] While various local TMO functionaries here and there have announced that the DLF funds are available, there's been no press coverage that would suggest that there have been any new schools taking Lynch up on his offer.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote: Wine may have a rich history of religious use, but its general use is independent of any specific ritualistic use. The commandment of wearing undergarments for Mormons doesn't make Fruit of the Loom or Victoria's

[FairfieldLife] Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread TurquoiseB
From the Letter to Education Ministries by Bevan Morris, May 9th 2003, still found at: http://www.mgcwp.org/parliamentofworldpeace/letter_Education.htm (Excerpts only, because Bevan is nothing if not pompous and long-winded, emphasis mine.) Note the somewhat different language than that being

[FairfieldLife] The agreement signed by the recertified TM Teachers

2009-04-19 Thread TurquoiseB
An anonymous contributor to the TM-Free blog has submitted what appears to be the actual legal agreement signed by the 300+ TM Teachers as part of the first recertification course. This is IMO relevant to the latest DLF efforts because it can be assumed that 1) only official recertified TM

[FairfieldLife] 'Jewish Sutras'

2009-04-19 Thread Robert
Since the recent discussion of Patanjali's Sutras, and the seeking of powers... I was reading some Jewish prayers, and thought they might be used, as the sutras are used, in order to understand the Ancient Thought on the Seeking of God Some of the one's I found, which are simplified and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread Mike Doughney
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... quoted: Professor Tony Nader, M.D., Ph.D. (who received his weight in gold in 1998 for his extraordinary scientific discoveries... Continuing the theme of pompous madness... a video of the stunt of Nader on the scale, followed by

[FairfieldLife] The Mythic Life Times of Deepak Chopra, by Andrew Cohen

2009-04-19 Thread Rick Archer
Interesting interview with Deepak, published last May. I've pasted the TM-related part below. The whole article provides a glimpse of a remarkable life, guided by deep intuition. http://www.enlightennext.org/magazine/j40/chopra.asp?pf=1 Cohen: What was the original reason you started to meditate?

[FairfieldLife] This just in: The latest buzz

2009-04-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Americans really don't like paying taxes. A particularly buzzy moment occurred when several Yahoo! FairfieldLife informants made fun of tea parties in a very crude way, stooping to smut jokes, poking fun at gay people. One rascal posted some links to porn - and this guy doesn't even pay

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread Duveyoung
below --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: IMO, I would expect that someone saying the rosary (essentially a collection of hail marys and our fathers) would be getting many of the same

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2009, at 3:06 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: That's the whole issue, Marek -- the only reason that the TM TBs cannot let go of the TM is not a religion meme is because they are unable to admit that they were lied to. And that they *bought* these lies without question for decades.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread Marek Reavis
Yes, same for me. Good discussion. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: Marek, Thanks for your feedback on this and related posts. They have helped me further my thinking. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Craigslist sex

2009-04-19 Thread Kirk
Bob, are you considering I caution against it! - Original Message - From: bob_brigante no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 8:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Craigslist sex Luckily for Melvin, what he had wandered into was

Re: [FairfieldLife] The agreement signed by the recertified TM Teachers

2009-04-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Apr 19, 2009, at 4:29 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: An anonymous contributor to the TM-Free blog has submitted what appears to be the actual legal agreement signed by the 300+ TM Teachers as part of the first recertification course. Thanks for posting this, Barry--very enlightening, so to speak.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Duveyoung wrote: And Turq is a predator by his own statements -- even if I had paraphrased his attitude into I'd hit that and not nutshelled it to your satisfaction... Go get them, Tiger!

Re: [FairfieldLife] The agreement signed by the recertified TM Teachers

2009-04-19 Thread Kirk
It's too vague to be legally binding. Any document including the terms heaven on earth or satya yuga, etc, could never be proven in a court of law. It's just a statement of intent, not legally binding. - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Vaj wrote: Many believe TM is Vedic, that Garlic is non-Ayurvedic and a long list of other hilarities that could have been easily rectified if one took the time to, say, visit India or to talk to some authentic sources... Because the fact is that almost all of the Indian traditions are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Apr 19, 2009, at 6:22 AM, Mike Doughney wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... quoted: Professor Tony Nader, M.D., Ph.D. (who received his weight in gold in 1998 for his extraordinary scientific discoveries... Continuing the theme of pompous madness... a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: From the Letter to Education Ministries by Bevan Morris, May 9th 2003, still found at: http://www.mgcwp.org/parliamentofworldpeace/letter_Education.htm (Excerpts only, because Bevan is nothing if not pompous and

[FairfieldLife] Italian scientist, turning 100, still works

2009-04-19 Thread raunchydog
Rita Levi Montalcini, a Nobel Prize-winning scientist, said Saturday that even though she is about to turn 100, her mind is sharper than it was she when she was 20. Levi Montalcini, who also serves as a senator for life in Italy, celebrates her 100th birthday on Wednesday, and she spoke at a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The agreement signed by the recertified TM Teachers

2009-04-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: It's too vague to be legally binding. Any document including the terms heaven on earth or satya yuga, etc, could never be proven in a court of law. Not to mention saying bye-bye to Kali Yuga. :-) It's just a statement

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread Kirk
He screams flamer, the wife and I agree. - Original Message - From: Sal Sunshine To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools On Apr 19, 2009, at 6:22

[FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Sal Sunshine wrote: And how anybody can maintain that Bevan is anything but a flaming fag after hearing him here is beyond me... Well, I always suspected that Sal was a homophobe, but what in the world would being 'gay' have to do with teaching TM in schools? From what I've read, lots of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The agreement signed by the recertified TM Teachers

2009-04-19 Thread Kirk
There are no recerts here on FFLife to say anything. - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The agreement signed by the recertified TM Teachers --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Kirk wrote: He screams flamer, the wife and I agree. So, you and your wife are homophobes - I'm surprised. There must be thousands of gay people in NOLA and they all like to eat in restaurants. Why are so many TMers anti-gay, Kirk? Why are you so scared?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote: Yes, same for me. Good discussion. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_reply@ wrote: Marek, Thanks for your feedback on this and related posts. They have helped me further my thinking.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Vaj wrote: Many believe TM is Vedic, that Garlic is non-Ayurvedic and a long list of other hilarities that could have been easily rectified if one took the time to, say, visit India or to talk to some authentic sources... Because

[FairfieldLife] Re: The agreement signed by the recertified TM Teachers

2009-04-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: snip While this is true, and while like other TM contracts the signee probably did not get his or her own copy (which renders it void legally), there is the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2009, at 11:11 AM, grate.swan wrote: I don't see how sitting in silence for 15 minutes in school regardless of the practice used, in any way establishes a single governmental-based religion. As has been explained a gazillion times to you while you perseverate over this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: From the Letter to Education Ministries by Bevan Morris, May 9th 2003, still found at: http://www.mgcwp.org/parliamentofworldpeace/letter_Education.htm

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Vaj wrote: Therefore, we need to go for the latter and focus our attention on implementing these if we're interested in introducing meditation in schools. We're not, the whole idea is ludicrous. Schools are for learning, the home is for everything else, including

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2009, at 11:53 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Vaj wrote: Therefore, we need to go for the latter and focus our attention on implementing these if we're interested in introducing meditation in schools. We're not, the whole idea is ludicrous. Schools are

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Did you as a TM teacher consider yourself a failure if your students went off and practiced TM on their own, with an occasional checking session, and never came to any advanced lectures or went on residence courses or got

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread Kirk
You're right Richard. I am sorry to Bevan for disrespectibg him. - Original Message - From: Richard J. Williams willy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 10:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread Marek Reavis
GrateSwan, you've correctly identified the two clauses re religion in the Constitution, the establishment clause (Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion,. . .) and the free exercise clause (. . . or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.) Both clauses are binding

[FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Kirk wrote: You're right Richard. I am sorry to Bevan for disrespectibg him. Well, I didn't really think you were a homophobe, like Sal apparently is. Why do you suppose the other informants don't speak up when they read such outrageous accusations? Curtis said he opposed the caste system,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: So if you look at TM in the schools (not the DLF initiative, but programs that use public school facilities or staff to facilitate TM), you can easily satisfy the first prong (better grades, improved behavior, etc.) Since this tack is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: Aren't you the little busy body dictating what we should pay attention to and respond to here Richard? According to Judy, silence indicates agreement. According to me, silence indicates silence. Kirk wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Marek Reavis wrote: ...because even a cursory examination of the TMO history (and present structure) demonstrates that it is replete with religious imagery, religious language, religious beliefs, and a religious and philosophical mission. The state cannot become entangled with it

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread Marek Reavis
Right, but you can make the threshold requirement of the first prong by stating that the intention is secular, rather than religious. If, for example, the stated intention of promoting TM in schools was to create heaven on earth and have all the students act in accordance with the will of god

[FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Curtis wrote: Aren't you the little busy body dictating what we should pay attention to and respond to here Richard? You're so defensive these days, Curtis. According to Judy, silence indicates agreement. According to me, silence indicates silence. According to Judy, silence

[FairfieldLife] Naomi Klein: A Lexicon of Disappointment

2009-04-19 Thread Bhairitu
Interesting article by Naomi Klein: All is not well in Obamafanland. It's not clear exactly what accounts for the change of mood. Maybe it was the rancid smell emanating from Treasury's latest bank bailout. Or the news that the president's chief economic adviser, Larry Summers, earned millions

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
Because the fact is that almost all of the Indian traditions are derived from the Vedic tradition. According to David Frawley, the Vidic Sanskrit speakers are the source of the yoga tradition, the six systems, Buddhism, and all the modern sectarian traditions of India. All these

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread Marek Reavis
A law setting aside a time of silence in public schools for meditation or voluntary prayer violates the Establishment clause when its sole purpose as evidenced by its text and legislative history is to endorse a religious exercise, and it thus has no secular purpose. (Wallace v. Jaffree (1985)

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread authfriend
Going meta (much to Sal's disgust): --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip Since my original post was specifically about the TM puja, *which it is required that students participate in* as part of learning TM, and the evader in question managed to avoid

[FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: Curtis wrote: Aren't you the little busy body dictating what we should pay attention to and respond to here Richard? You're so defensive these days, Curtis. Compared to what imaginary standard Richard?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Going meta (much to Sal's disgust): --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Since my original post was specifically about the TM puja, *which it is required that students participate in*

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavisma...@... wrote: A law setting aside a time of silence in public schools for meditation or voluntary prayer violates the Establishment clause when its sole purpose as evidenced by its text and legislative history is to endorse a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread shempmcgurk
...have to agree with Barry here. And his highlighted (bolded) phrases go right to the point. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: From the Letter to Education Ministries by Bevan Morris, May 9th 2003, still found at:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Left unclear is whether (a) other practices not suitable for students might awaken total brain function, and (b) whether total brain function might awaken spontaneously (i.e., without a specific practice) in some people

[FairfieldLife] Genetic Engineering Has Failed to Boost U.S. Crop Yields

2009-04-19 Thread Dick Mays
http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/ge-fails-to-increase-yields-0219.htmlhttp://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/ge-fails-to-increase-yields-0219.html Genetic Engineering Has Failed to Significantly Boost U.S. Crop Yields Despite Biotech Industry Claims April 14, 2009 Increases over

[FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Some folks may conceptualize transcending as a religious or spiritual but that is purely and individual choice. No one has to believe anything at all about the experience of transcending. Embellish it with bells and

[FairfieldLife] The restoration of the world

2009-04-19 Thread nablusoss1008
The Master's article for Share International magazine, April 2009 The restoration of the world by the Master –, through Benjamin Creme, 16 March 2009 From almost every point of view the situation facing men everywhere grows daily more painful. The economic chaos resulting from years of unlicensed

[FairfieldLife] Questions and answers abou the Star

2009-04-19 Thread nablusoss1008
http://shareintl.org/magazine/old_issues/2009/2009-04.htm#top Questions and Answers Q. How imminent is Maitreya's appearance in the world? A. Very imminent indeed. Q. Will most people feel their own soul on Declaration Day when Maitreya is speaking? A. Most people will experience their own

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread Vaj
On Apr 19, 2009, at 1:09 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: So, you're saying that the tantric mantras came AFTER the Rig Veda - if so, that proves my point. According to Frawley, all the Indian traditions are based on the Vedic literature, none were imported from outside India. They all arose

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: Well, Vaj, I don't think David Frawley is a liar, and he is a Vedic scholar. According to Frawley, the Vedas are rife with yogic and tantric notions - the Atharva Veda has many tantric mantras in it. From AV:

RE: [FairfieldLife] Questions and answers about the Star

2009-04-19 Thread Rick Archer
Hey Nabs, On a scale of 1-10, how sure are you that all these predictions are going to come true?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread Mike Doughney
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Apr 19, 2009, at 6:22 AM, Mike Doughney wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ quoted: Professor Tony Nader, M.D., Ph.D. (who received his weight in gold in 1998 for his

[FairfieldLife] Maya nut changes lives while aiding the rain forest

2009-04-19 Thread I am the eternal
http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/science/04/16/cnnheroes.erika.vohman/index.html http://tinyurl.com/cntekb http://www.cnn.com/ /technology updated 1:07 p.m. EDT, Fri April 17, 2009 Maya nut changes lives while aiding the rain forest*FLORES, Guatemala (CNN) * -- In the rain forests of Central

[FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread authfriend
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Note the somewhat different language than that being used in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maya nut changes lives while aiding the rain forest

2009-04-19 Thread authfriend
Fantastic. I'd never heard of this. Just sent 'em some dinero. Thank you *very* much for posting it. Greenies and foodies would undoubtedly go for the Maya nut if it were sold here, especially if part of the proceeds went to the Equilibrium Fund to further the project. The fund will send you a

[FairfieldLife] New Crop Circle,West Kennet Longbarrow, Wiltshire. Reported 19th April

2009-04-19 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.sacredbritain.com/cropcircles.html http://www.earthfiles.com/shop.php West Kennett Longbarrow, Nr Avebury, Wiltshire. Reported 19th April. Map Ref: MAP LOCTION http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=410286y=167680z=120sv=410286,16\

[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and answers about the Star

2009-04-19 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Hey Nabs, On a scale of 1-10, how sure are you that all these predictions are going to come true? 10. Heaven will walk on earth, in this generation - Maharishi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maya nut changes lives while aiding the rain forest

2009-04-19 Thread I am the eternal
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 4:14 PM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote: Fantastic. I'd never heard of this. Just sent 'em some dinero. Thank you *very* much for posting it. Greenies and foodies would undoubtedly go for the Maya nut if it were sold here, especially if part of the proceeds went

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread Peter
What wonderful madness! When Paul pulled out his flute, it went over the top. The eureka point has been achieved! The human physiology is structured in Ved Beat the drum of invincibilty of the cosmic balance of intelligence in the bubbling bliss of Atman!!! If only we could return to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maya nut changes lives while aiding the rain forest

2009-04-19 Thread lurkernomore20002000
He who posts posts that ought to be posted, without depending on the fruits of posting, he is a sanyasi, he is a yogi, not her who is without fire, and without activity Remember these words, oh eternal. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: On Sun, Apr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maya nut changes lives while aiding the rain forest

2009-04-19 Thread lurkernomore20002000
er, not he --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: He who posts posts that ought to be posted, without depending on the fruits of posting, he is a sanyasi, he is a yogi, not her who is without fire, and without activity Remember these words, oh

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread authfriend
Having so easily bent Barry to my will, I'm happy to respond to his questions: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip Unless (light bulb going on over my head!) I just repost the questions below, spelling out in no uncertain terms exactly WHO the TM True

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Apr 19, 2009, at 4:41 PM, Peter wrote: What wonderful madness! When Paul pulled out his flute, it went over the top. The eureka point has been achieved! The human physiology is structured in Ved Beat the drum of invincibilty of the cosmic balance of intelligence in the bubbling

[FairfieldLife] New York benefit concert for David Lynch Foundation opens 'sky of possibilities' for Latin America

2009-04-19 Thread michael
New York benefit concert for David Lynch Foundation opens 'sky of possibilities' for Latin America by Global Good News staff writer Global Good News    Translate This Article 19 April 2009 Well-known musicians, celebrities, and philanthropists in Latin America expressed deep support for the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: What wonderful madness! When Paul pulled out his flute, it went over the top. That was my favorite part. You forgot to mention, it was a *golden* flute. I have to say, I caught what felt like a distinct undertone of

[FairfieldLife] Holy Dog War

2009-04-19 Thread authfriend
Do dogs go to heaven? http://nancyrommelmann.typepad.com/nancy_rommelmann/2009/03/holy-dog-war.html http://tinyurl.com/cjoj5a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maya nut changes lives while aiding the rain forest

2009-04-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: er, not he Thank you! I was wondering... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: He who posts posts that ought to be posted, without depending on the fruits

[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and answers about the Star

2009-04-19 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Hey Nabs, On a scale of 1-10, how sure are you that all these predictions are going to come true? 10 Heaven will walk on earth, in this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Holy Dog War

2009-04-19 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Do dogs go to heaven? http://nancyrommelmann.typepad.com/nancy_rommelmann/2009/03/holy-dog-war.html http://tinyurl.com/cjoj5a LOL! Sounds like some of the debates on FFL.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread Mike Doughney
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: I have to say, I caught what felt like a distinct undertone of tongue-in-cheek to the whole proceeding, especially from King Tony. Looked to me like he thought it was all pretty hilarious. If it's all just tongue-in-cheek

[FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread enlightened_dawn11
Nobody covers this nonsense; why should they? yeah, that's what i don't get. aside from you and a few others living in the past on here, notably Barry and Vaj, nobody else does seem interested. why are you? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Doughney m...@... wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: The agreement signed by the recertified TM Teachers

2009-04-19 Thread shukra69
Recertified teachers are not trying to conform to this agreement. Its more of an idea or ideal at the time. Maharaja Adiraj Rajaram addresses some of the same questions in his most recent address to the Fairfeild community which is repeating currently on the Maharishi Channel and obviously is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Excerpts from the *2003* attempt to teach TM in schools

2009-04-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Doughney m...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I have to say, I caught what felt like a distinct undertone of tongue-in-cheek to the whole proceeding, especially from King Tony. Looked to me like he

[FairfieldLife] Maharaja Adiraja Rajaram speaks about religion and teaching etc

2009-04-19 Thread shukra69
He speaks very directly about the kind of issues that some people are concerned about here, is TM a religion, what is the relationship with Hinduism, does a TM teacher have to represent the tradition all the time 24/7 etc. currently repeating often on the Maharishi Channel and you can find your

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2009-04-19 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Apr 18 00:00:00 2009 End Date (UTC): Sat Apr 25 00:00:00 2009 212 messages as of (UTC) Sun Apr 19 23:51:03 2009 27 authfriend jst...@panix.com 21 Marek Reavis reavisma...@sbcglobal.net 16 Richard J. Williams

[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and answers abou the Star

2009-04-19 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: http://shareintl.org/magazine/old_issues/2009/2009-04.htm#top Questions and Answers Q. How imminent is Maitreya's appearance in the world? A. Very imminent indeed. Q. Will most people feel their own soul on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Genetic Engineering Has Failed to Boost U.S. Crop Yields

2009-04-19 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickm...@... wrote: http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/ge-fails-to-increase-yields-0219.htmlhttp://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/ge-fails-to-increase-yields-0219.html Genetic Engineering Has Failed to Significantly Boost U.S. Crop

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adiraja Rajaram speaks about religion and teaching etc

2009-04-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukr...@... wrote: He speaks very directly about the kind of issues that some people are concerned about here, is TM a religion, what is the relationship with Hinduism, does a TM teacher have to represent the tradition all the time 24/7 etc.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adiraja Rajaram speaks about religion and teaching etc

2009-04-19 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: He speaks very directly about the kind of issues that some people are concerned about here, is TM a religion, what is the relationship with Hinduism, does

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adiraja Rajaram speaks about religion and teaching etc

2009-04-19 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: He speaks very directly about the kind of issues that some people are concerned about here, is TM a religion, what is the relationship with Hinduism, does a TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and answers about the Star

2009-04-19 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Hey Nabs, On a scale of 1-10, how sure are you that all these predictions

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and answers about the Star

2009-04-19 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 5:15 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and answers about the Star --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and answers about the Star

2009-04-19 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 4:32 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and answers about the Star --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adiraja Rajaram speaks about religion and teaching etc

2009-04-19 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: He speaks very directly about the kind of issues that some people are concerned about here, is TM a religion, what is the relationship with Hinduism, does

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions and answers about the Star

2009-04-19 Thread Kirk
It's all bullshit and no different than the failed attempts by Blavatsky to manufacture a Maitrya out of Krishnamurthi. That people even fall for Creme who is at best a lackluster pretender and who has reified Theosphical wishful thinking beyond its necessary usefulness is portentious itself,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adiraja Rajaram speaks about religion and teaching etc

2009-04-19 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukr...@... wrote: He speaks very directly about the kind of issues that some people are concerned about here, is TM a religion, what is the relationship with Hinduism, does a TM teacher have to represent the tradition all the time 24/7 etc.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adiraja Rajaram speaks about religion and teaching etc

2009-04-19 Thread authfriend
Thank you very much! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: He speaks very directly about the kind of issues that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maya nut changes lives while aiding the rain forest

2009-04-19 Thread I am the eternal
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 4:43 PM, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net wrote: He who posts posts that ought to be posted, without depending on the fruits of posting, he is a sanyasi, he is a yogi, not her who is without fire, and without activity Remember these words, oh eternal.

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Pictured: Desperate Chinese sailors fight off Somali pirates with beer ...

2009-04-19 Thread WLeed3
From: tom.hebe...@gmail.com Sent: 4/18/2009 5:13:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Pictured: Desperate Chinese sailors fight off Somali pirates with beer bottles and Molotov cocktails Pictured: Desperate Chinese sailors fight off Somali pirates

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adiraja Rajaram speaks about religion and teaching etc

2009-04-19 Thread Mike Doughney
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: He speaks very directly about the kind of issues that some people are concerned about here, is TM a religion, what is the relationship with Hinduism,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Pictured: Desperate Chinese sailors fight off Somali pirates with beer ...

2009-04-19 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wle...@... wrote: From: tom.hebe...@... Sent: 4/18/2009 5:13:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Pictured: Desperate Chinese sailors fight off Somali pirates with beer bottles and Molotov cocktails

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adiraja Rajaram speaks about religion and teaching etc

2009-04-19 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Doughney m...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: He speaks very directly about the kind of issues that some people are concerned

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maya nut changes lives while aiding the rain forest

2009-04-19 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Well this is what Krishna told Arjuna, and you know what he did! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 4:43 PM, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: He who posts posts that ought to be posted, without depending on the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adiraja Rajaram speaks about religion and teaching etc

2009-04-19 Thread enlightened_dawn11
and just to put the icing on the cake, those who like broken records keep insisting that TM should be a religion DON'T DO TM. its ludicrous, like trying to justify an experience to small children, who don't have the experience. why anyone wastes their time responding to this nonsense is

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Science Of Spiritual Marketing (Is kneeling *ever* just kneeling)

2009-04-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Wine may have a rich history of religious use, but its general use is independent of any specific ritualistic use. The commandment of wearing

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