Now that's the first thing you've ever said that I can relate to, and I
mean that in the most shallow sense of the words...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff roryg...@... wrote:
Really, nothing ever happens! :-D
On Dec 28, 2010, at 2:00 PM, Tom Pall wrote:
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net
wrote:
On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:38 PM, Peter wrote:
Yes, Earl was massively unstressing when he experienced
negativity regarding the theft of his 17 million. Also, wasn't
Earl a
*lol* Thanks; always happy to connect! Shallow, deep...what's the difference?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pranamoocher no_re...@... wrote:
Now that's the first thing you've ever said that I can relate to, and I
mean that in the most shallow sense of the words...
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
On closer look, we actually see 9 Initiations these aspects of
ourselves undergo in their journey, with each Initiation lasting 9
uncials or
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I just got this today. It was addressed to me and my ex, so that's dating the
list as ten years old.
Why is it that Bob Roth doesn't know I'm apostate?
Theory: their usual mailing list is highly refined and all the big money
donors have been targeted so much that the list isn't producing
Honking mass of cars...
Zackly what we discovered while touring India several years ago. As a
Westerner, I never heard such incessant honking, used by motorists there
as the only way to drive, contrasted with US drivers honking to express
anger or perhaps a warning.
Its amazing there isn't more
You need a guru to become aware of God's grace in your life.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wg...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wvosteen monroe1@ wrote:
The Grace of God
29 December 1964, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi speaking to a course at Bad
MMY's statement is vague. First, he needs to define Grace; and give the
evidence that it's all-pervading. Do people breathe it in? If so, what are the
results.? Is MMY conflating pure Consciousness with Grace?
How about the Blessings of God. Are the people of Haiti being helped by this?
If
Very similar in the Philippines and Indonesia. Basically many cities in Asia
have this congestion and traffic chaos. Inadequate road systems not designed
for cars; no freeways.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pranamoocher no_re...@... wrote:
Honking mass of cars...
Zackly what we
On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Tom Pall wrote:
Mahesh, after traveling throughout India, found a man who could activate the
outer portions of the Shri Yantra. This gave Mahesh certain occult powers and
control over certain astral beings. Mahesh then created a meditation
technique and
On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:38 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
EK definitely butchered that sacred cow! lol
Jim, as my kids would say~~you have issues.
Grow up.
Sal
On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:29 PM, wgm4u wrote:
In Sant Mat they believe you need a Sat Guru to get grace...how can that be?
Grace is obviously a prostitute.
On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Tom Pall wrote:
Mahesh, after traveling throughout India, found a man who could activate the
outer portions of the Shri Yantra. This gave Mahesh certain occult powers and
control over certain astral beings. Mahesh then created a meditation
technique and
An excerpt of an article written by Larry Domash which addresses the psycho
physical aspects independent of the philosophical context.
Larry Domash, Ph.D (physics), who has
spent a considerable amount of time with Maharishi through the years.
Larry's background in physics, his clear writing and
This would make a good plot for a fantasy novel or movie. Sounds to me that
someone is making something up. I wonder who? Obviously, if EK really was told
this by some swamis in India, they didn't like MMY -- but what does that prove?
Sounds like professional jealousy to me.
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 fest...@... wrote:
This would make a good plot for a fantasy novel or movie. Sounds
to me that someone is making something up. I wonder who?
Obviously, if EK really was told this by some swamis in India,
they didn't like MMY -- but what does that
On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:50 PM, cardemaister wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
stabilize at the ma-kara bindu level where samadhi begins a la
Patanjali.
Whoa, that's way cool! Is that based on some suutra in YS?
No, other texts do; it coincides
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 5:39 PM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 fest...@... wrote:
This would make a good plot for a fantasy novel or movie. Sounds
to me that someone is making something up. I wonder who?
Obviously, if EK really was told
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wvosteen monr...@... wrote:
You need a guru to become aware of God's grace in your life.
That is correct, the Guru doesn't have his hand 'on the tap' so to speak!! It's
cult worship to think otherwise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:
MMY's statement is vague. First, he needs to define Grace; and give the
evidence that it's all-pervading. Do people breathe it in? If so, what are
the results.? Is MMY conflating pure Consciousness with Grace?
How about
I haven't seen much actual evidence of Grace; independent of one's Guru. If
it (whatever it is) came from MMY, I would spit on it.
However, I would accept some of it coming from legitimate Gurus such as Ramana
Maharshi, Kirpal Singh, and various Buddhists such as Norbu Rinpoche, Lama
Zopa,
How many women are on Mother Divine anymore?
The few that are left, are they not okay up in Vedic City?
Would it be cheaper and spiritually more effective to move Mother Divine to
Kansas
than to some swank mountain in North Carolina?
This has what to do with teaching TM or what to do with
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22 Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
20 whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com
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On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:
How many women are on Mother Divine anymore?
Go out and count 'em.
The few that are left, are they not okay up in Vedic City?
What, and have us miss the opportunity to give the movement some more
donation$? Also, I
1983, Vancouver. P 387, italics, ...Mary's experience, then others:
http://www.mothandtheflame.com/book/71-DarshanInVancouver.pdf
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.p...@... wrote:
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:
How many women are on Mother Divine anymore?
Go out and count 'em.
The few that are left, are they not okay up in Vedic City?
What, and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@...
wrote:
On Dec 28, 2010, at 6:29 AM, merudanda wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
wrote:
On Dec 27, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
A cupie doll to the first person who
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 6:43 PM, wayback71 waybac...@yahoo.com wrote:
The crash in about 1973 with Joe and April and another initiator aboard?
Yes. Unless there were two crashes. The only good thing coming out of it
was that the world had one less psychiatrist in it. Losing a
(Grandmother of Arran Stephens, author of the online book, Moth and the
Flame).
Her pic - p. 398. As she approaches death, Kirpal Singh appears to her;
welcoming her in the journey beyond the physical. (he left the physical in
1974):
yes, I'd agree with that. After the plane crash, people were asking MMY if
there were a deep metaphysical reason for the untimely deaths of these
TM-bots at such a young age, cutting their careers in the TMO dramatically
short.
...
While I'm not a Vedic seer, I'd say they died simply because
from http://www.mothandtheflame.com
Chapter 82, page 455:
statement of Rajinder Singh, Grandson of Kirpal Singh:
The soul is a drop of His essence. Thus, the soul's real nature is also
sat-chit-ananda, `truth, consciousness, and bliss.' Each of us is actually a
drop of this blissful awareness.
Thanks for that great Post, he really put it nicely. They appear to practice
Dharana or Concentration as prescribed by Patanjali.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:
from http://www.mothandtheflame.com
Chapter 82, page 455:
statement of Rajinder Singh, Grandson
Starting on p. 489 of this chapter of Moth and the Flame by Arran Stephens.
http://www.mothandtheflame.com/book/88-APPENDIX%20Inner%20journey%20LR.pdf
Not funny, Tom. Real people with real friends and families.
--- On Tue, 12/28/10, Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heavenly Mountain is for sale to Mother Vi
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 28,
It sounded completely absurd to me the first time I heard it and it still does.
It makes me question Earl's intellectual capacities. This is the Indian version
of talking shit.
--- On Tue, 12/28/10, feste37 fest...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote:
Not funny, Tom. Real people with real friends and families.
My reaction exactly, Peter.
--- On Tue, 12/28/10, Tom Pall thomas.p...@... wrote:
From: Tom Pall thomas.p...@...
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:
I agree. 30+ years of the lives of patients and their families spared. Not
funny at all.
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Peter drpetersutp...@yahoo.com wrote:
Not funny, Tom. Real people with real friends and families.
--- On *Tue, 12/28/10, Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com* wrote:
-Subject: Spiritual Succession in Sant Mat
Spiritual succession in Sant Mat
Hi Sal, madly in love with me as usual I see! As long as you don't try to get
any more personal with me, I'll tolerate your flirtatious ways...lol
I am assuming you read EK's letter. I thought he successfully butchered his
sacred cow. Why you think differently baffles me. perhaps you haven't
All concepts outside of Larry's experience. True or not, doesn't matter. This
is the shit that we, at sometime in our TM careers, would mindlessly parrot as
if we knew what we were talking about.
--- On Tue, 12/28/10, johnlasher20002000 johnlasher20002...@yahoo.com wrote:
From:
think there may be some non disclosure agreement involved in this
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukr...@... wrote:
Does anyone here know if that figure was arrived at through arbitration?
We have wonderful news: At this moment, we have the extraordinary opportunity
for
Ditto.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote:
Not funny, Tom. Real people with real friends and families.
--- On Tue, 12/28/10, Tom Pall thomas.p...@... wrote:
From: Tom Pall thomas.p...@...
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heavenly Mountain is for sale
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 9:23 PM, wayback71 waybac...@yahoo.com wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote:
Not funny, Tom. Real people with real friends and families.
My reaction exactly, Peter.
--- On Tue, 12/28/10, Tom Pall thomas.p...@... wrote:
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 9:27 PM, whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Sal, madly in love with me as usual I see! As long as you don't try to
get any more personal with me, I'll tolerate your flirtatious ways...lol
I am assuming you read EK's letter. I thought he successfully butchered
1969:
http://www.quotes.net/movies/11918
I think you mean sordid not sorted Tom.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.p...@... wrote:
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 9:23 PM, wayback71 waybac...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
Not funny, Tom. Real people with real
Yes, perhaps so. We are given such a divine opportunity when a set of long- and
deeply-cherished beliefs starts to crumble into dust, and yet we so often
merely trade that cage for another -- anything to retain a solid sense of
separation, discontent and purpose, anything to resist a genuine
Yep, it's fool's shit posing as esoterica. He got snookered by the
movement and snookered a second time by a bunch of bullshit sadhus.
Where ever there are monstics this is a problem.
Yep, it's fool's shit posing as tantric esoterica. He got snookered by
the movement and snookered a second time
lakeconews.com/content/view/15326/919/
After many years on the market for three million dollars, Hoberg's Resort sold
to investors in August 2010. It was beautiful there but the Movement let it
crumble and decay. As usual. Where did that money go?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Tom Pall wrote:
Mahesh, after traveling throughout India, found a man who could activate
the outer portions of the Shri Yantra. This gave Mahesh certain occult
powers and control over
There was no psychiatrist on board the plane with Joe Clarke, April Clemmons
and Ron Michealove in mid July of 1972 in North Carolina.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.p...@... wrote:
I agree. 30+ years of the lives of patients and their families spared. Not
funny at
Not clear on what your saying. Are you saying that the mantras don't get more
attractive as they are perceived at prior levels? If they are then they should
take the awareness to deeper levels of trance until there is just awareness
with no content. If you are a psychologist and have any
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff roryg...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote:
So, why do you call Her Magdalene?
I have called her Magdalene as that was apparently a traditional name or
title given to the Daughter as soul-mate
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Paterson_(politician): Neil Paterson
owned 92% of Global Gold Corp, while his brother John owned the remaining
8%. Where did Neil get the money to own that 92% share? He worked full-time
for the TMO all his life. Unless there was an inheritance, the TMO must
I really wish I had more time to devote to this post than I do...but I don't.
The majority of your points are ridiculous.
The only thing that Earl says that I have no opinion or personal knowledge of
is the bit about Guru Dev's supposed murder and the stolen yantra.
The rest of your
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Tom Pall wrote:
Mahesh, after traveling throughout India, found a man who could activate
the outer portions of the
Hi Joe,
I look forward to your thoughts and discussing them when you have time to flesh
them out.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:
I really wish I had more time to devote to this post than I do...but I don't.
The majority of your points are ridiculous.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.p...@... wrote:
[quoting Earl Kaplan]
Mahesh with his practice and teaching has done an amazing
thing. He has diverted the focus and efforts of a large
group of spiritual seekers and made it so impossible for
them to have spiritual
Very well said Doug.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Tom Pall wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:
I really wish I had more time to devote to this post than
I do...but I don't. The majority of your points are
ridiculous.
The only thing that Earl says that I have no opinion or
personal knowledge of is the bit about Guru
Did I write like I was attempting to convince? No. I stated my opinion and that
to take Tarts points one by one would require way more time than I have.
In the meantime Doug/Buck summed it up better than I could given a short amount
of time.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend
http://www.ken-fisher-debunkery.com/debunkery101/default.aspx
3 issues are at stake, at least:
(1) factoids; e.g. the yantra stuff, true or false?
(2)(in 2 parts): there's a conflating of personal integrity issues with a true
Consciousness level (i.e. Self-Realization, Unity). The exhibition of moral
turpitude doesn't necessarily detract from the status
No, Grace is the pimp and you are the whore.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:29 PM, wgm4u wrote:
In Sant Mat they believe you need a Sat Guru to get grace...how can
that be?
Grace is obviously a prostitute.
Sorry to sound so cagey about time. I'm awaiting heart surgery to correct an
electrical problem caused by open heart (really open like out of my body on a
plate) surgery in 2001 on my mitral valve.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:
Did I write like I was
state the exact time. I'll chant some mantras for you then.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:
Sorry to sound so cagey about time. I'm awaiting heart surgery to correct an
electrical problem caused by open heart (really open like out of my body on a
plate)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:
Though it seems there is most always a back story to what you list too. Way
more nuance than black and whiting.
Thats true, there are nuances and lots of gray. Though I am open to anything,
and I read this (had read
Joe, you'd be pissed if you'd put some effort into writing
a thoughtful post and somebody commented, Well, I don't
have time to say why, but this is all nonsense. It adds
nothing to the discussion; it's just rude and insulting.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:
Wow. Sending positive thoughts your way.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:
Sorry to sound so cagey about time. I'm awaiting heart surgery
to correct an electrical problem caused by open heart (really
open like out of my body on a plate) surgery in 2001 on my
Thanks man. 7:45am (so they tell me) PST on Wednesday.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:
state the exact time. I'll chant some mantras for you then.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote:
Sorry to sound so cagey about time. I'm
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:
MMY's statement is vague. First, he needs to define Grace; and give
the evidence that it's all-pervading.
How can one give the evidence for it when you are in it - all you need
is the distance, a little separation - That's the
Best of luck and healing with it all.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:
Thanks man. 7:45am (so they tell me) PST on Wednesday.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote:
state the exact time. I'll chant some mantras for you then.
Thank you Judy. See you on the flip side.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
Wow. Sending positive thoughts your way.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote:
Sorry to sound so cagey about time. I'm awaiting heart surgery
to correct
Thanks for letting us know, Joe; with your permission we'll be holding you in
the light.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:
Thanks man. 7:45am (so they tell me) PST on Wednesday.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote:
state the
And so you think grace gets filtered through a Guru?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:
I haven't seen much actual evidence of Grace; independent of one's
Guru. If it (whatever it is) came from MMY, I would spit on it.
However, I would accept some of it coming
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