Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unstressing or Demons?

2014-04-10 Thread turquoiseb
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : You make the point well, Ann. I don't know many who took these claims at face value, and thereby set themselves up for disillusionment. Well, I'd say that at least 5,000 did, because isn't that the number who paid thousands

[FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread TurquoiseBee
I think one can make a case that they are. Here, I'll start... First, let's look at the basic TM technique, which uses Sanskrit mantras described by the TMO as meaningless sounds (which are really the names or calling cards of Hindu gods and goddesses, as anyone who can read books from India

[FairfieldLife] Once again: Lithuanian and Sanskrit!

2014-04-10 Thread cardemaister
http://vilnews.com/2011-04-incredible-indian-lithuanian-relations-2 http://vilnews.com/2011-04-incredible-indian-lithuanian-relations-2 FWIW, descendant of Lithuanian Jews: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIDeejW2Fs4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIDeejW2Fs4

[FairfieldLife] Nice interview with Bob Roth

2014-04-10 Thread nablusoss1008
http://modernluxury.com/manhattan/story/transcendental-inspiration http://modernluxury.com/manhattan/story/transcendental-inspiration

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Today's exciting new stories

2014-04-10 Thread nablusoss1008
Nice. With the TMO making nearly 50 million in 2012, the David Lynch operation spreading to more and more schools and has become quite an export from the US to 3'rd World Countries, the Initiations being on a steady rise, one wonders why poor souls like the Turq preach that the TMO is dead :-)

[FairfieldLife] Empowering At-Risk Students at New Horizons High

2014-04-10 Thread nablusoss1008
Failing grades, truancy, and a high rate of adjudication have made up the experience of a majority of students at New Horizons High School in New Haven, CT — at least that was the situation in the past. http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/blog/dlf-school-programs-new-horizons-high/

[FairfieldLife] Chef Jamie Oliver Proves McDonald’s Burgers “Unfit for Human Consumption”

2014-04-10 Thread nablusoss1008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twOj0XNCyaY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twOj0XNCyaY

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chef Jamie Oliver Proves McDonald’s Burgers “Unfit for Human Consumption”

2014-04-10 Thread salyavin808
Yum yum. I wonder how many backhanders were given so the food industry could include that in school dinners? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twOj0XNCyaY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twOj0XNCyaY

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Michael Jackson
Spot on Barry. On Thu, 4/10/14, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect? To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 10, 2014, 8:14 AM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com; FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?   Spot on Barry. It's just a theory,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Share Long
turq, research and my own experience indicates that field independence develops in TMers. That alone would decrease and or prevent any alleged placebo effect and strengthen a person's ability to divorce from it. I think this is one of the greatest benefits of TM. It liberates. Even from itself.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread salyavin808
It's a good theory because that's how it was on my sidhi course. We'd get the sutra and try it for a bit and get endless encouragement to feel the different flavours. We were all disappointed when we found out it was in English, I was hoping for some super-mantra things. The general

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread salyavin808
I'm not sure what field independence is but I'm worried that you think there's anything you can do that might affect how placebo's work. I think TM makes people more suggestible not less. It's why they always have the knowledge tape after the meditation session, it's when you mind is most

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?   turq, research and my own experience indicates that field independence

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread TurquoiseBee
BTW, Share, re my previous reply and any others, I'm not saying that you are wrong to believe what you believe, or that I am right in my placebo effect theory. It's *just* a theory, but one that I tend to believe, based on both my scientific training and my personal experience, both as a TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unstressing or Demons?

2014-04-10 Thread authfriend
Lurking reporters, please note that in context (carefully snipped by Barry), the claims Steve and Ann were talking about are that the age-old problems of mankind will be solved in one generation, including the complete disappearance of conflict. They've been saying you had to be kind of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Murderer

2014-04-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/9/2014 1:54 PM, Share Long wrote: Judy, it sounds like you're saying that Richard has zero redeeming qualities. Is that what you're saying? It's probably been at least ten years or more since I had an online conversation with Judy, and that probably a good thing. I started posting

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Michael Jackson
I always regretted I didn't get the invisibility sutra nor the understanding the language of animals - they weren't handing those out to us plebeian meditators otherwise known as Rising Sidhas, dunno why - I guess they thought the more highly evolved governors had unstressed their asses off too

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Today's exciting new stories [1 Attachment]

2014-04-10 Thread Mike Dixon
Does the TMO really want Lindsay Lohan as a spokes person? I watch that Russell character, you know the hip hop dude, teaching TM on some talk show a week or two ago. Gave everybody the mantra Ram.  Maharishi was rolling over in his ashes. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:01 PM, Dick Mays

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Michael Jackson
Hell, haven't you ever seen the old Andy Griffith episode where mean Elly Walker refuses to give Emma Watson her sugar pills cuz she has no prescription? Proves the placebo effect is real! And that watching re-runs of Andy and Barney are equally beneficial if not more so than an equal time

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Michael Jackson
yeah they used to say that shit even during residence courses when you would fall asleep during Marshy preening about how he knew everything or those goddamn Larry Domash tapes. Domash may be the nicest guy in the world, but he sure is one boring speaker.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Today's exciting new stories and success of Maharishi's Movement

2014-04-10 Thread nablusoss1008
With the expanding success of the TMO the last few years, and growing, it seems there are a few naysayers people here that needs a reality check. Not that the Turq or MJ will ever adjust to reality, they are probably to old and dysfunctional. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Today's exciting new stories

2014-04-10 Thread Michael Jackson
Underscores the bs hypocrisy of the Movement. If a regular TM teacher pulled a stunt like that he would be cast into outer darkness by the TMO - barred from future WPA's and any other courses, the TMO would be very careful to tell the world that such a deal was NOT TM and you had to have the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Working for a Living

2014-04-10 Thread Pundit Sir
Today I sent several pings to my server and did an internet speed test. [image: Inline image 1] On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Just so you know, I've got a VPN working through a proxy. Huey Lewis and the News - Workin' for a Livin' - Live 1992

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unstressing or Demons?

2014-04-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/8/2014 9:44 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: You always choose a narrative that suits you. Never mind if it's inaccurate, or skewed. It suits you and that's what's important. It's starting to look like MJ is a one-trick pony. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Michael Jackson
it definitely increased the problems I had originally learned TM for. You are correct about that! I saw that in loads of people at MIU - and of course they all ran to the vaidya or had a chart done or chalked it all up to unstressing - it took some of us years to realize that if ya stop doing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread salyavin808
Invisibility would be fun, I heard they dropped it from the course because people were learning just to become invisible. Doesn't sound very likely, levitation would just as impressive, how about both at the same time? Difficult to prove though. LOL! Maybe they kept the flying sutra in

[FairfieldLife] Octarium

2014-04-10 Thread raunchydog
http://youtu.be/Yh27BR0Dtb4 http://youtu.be/Yh27BR0Dtb4

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unstressing or Demons?

2014-04-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/9/2014 5:03 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Or, even more simply, he believed what he said when he said it. Isn't this embarrassing - if you believe something to be true, then you're not lying at the time you say it. But, George W. Bush lied about the reasons for using military force

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread authfriend
Actually, what you paid for was pretty elaborate instruction in how to use those English phrases (six weekends in my case for the CIC course, plus two weeks, including room and board, at MUM for the flying block). And in fact, nobody gets uptight (let alone really, really uptight) when Barry

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Murderer

2014-04-10 Thread authfriend
Says Richard, proving he's a dishonest troll. None of what he says below is accurate. It's probably been at least ten years or more since I had an online conversation with Judy, and that probably a good thing. I started posting around 2000 to Google Groups and she didn't post any

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Murderer

2014-04-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/9/2014 10:06 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm not sure that Richard is so concerned about being taken seriously a lot of the time. Sometimes, but not as often as some other people who want to be taken seriously ALL the time. Go figure! That's excellent Share! Once again, you've

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Murderer

2014-04-10 Thread Pundit Sir
Hey Richard, I like the pictures you've posted of yourself. My favorite was the one from when you worked as a reporter, If anyone wants to make lot's of money, go into commissioned sales. [image: Inline image 1] On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:03 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Richard,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unstressing or Demons?

2014-04-10 Thread TurquoiseBee
I will make an exception and reply to this because 1) Judy is LYING in it, and 2) I find humor in the fact that now she's writing for the lurking reporters while claiming not to be a cult apologist.  :-) From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : BTW, Share, re my previous reply and any others, I'm not saying that you are wrong to believe what you believe, or that I am right in my placebo effect theory. It's *just* a theory, but one that I tend to believe, based on both my

[FairfieldLife] Well, ashkenazi meets a Vedic master?

2014-04-10 Thread cardemaister
Perhaps his (Chomsky's) most influential and time-tested contribution to the field is the claim that modeling knowledge of language using a formal grammar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_grammar accounts for the productivity or creativity of language. In other words, a formal grammar of a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM REview

2014-04-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/9/2014 1:02 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Huh? Someone went to MUM and they don't meditate! We don't know why MJ went up to MUM to work. Apparently it wasn't to make money or to take any courses. He seems to have taken to TM in the beginning and for ten years, but he didn't like the other MUM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Murderer

2014-04-10 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 4/9/2014 10:49 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Had nothing to do with your lie about Hillary, Richard. I've always found you an excruciatingly boring troll. You need to stop the lying, Judy. Calling someone

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unstressing or Demons?

2014-04-10 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : You make the point well, Ann. I don't know many who took these claims at face value, and thereby set themselves up for disillusionment. Well, I'd say that at

[FairfieldLife] Re: They Did a Bad Bad Thing

2014-04-10 Thread Pundit Sir
She did a bad, bad, thing! Not only was the EIT program effective in gleaning information that saved American lives, Rodriguez writes, but it was legal, having been approved by the Justice Department and briefed to the chairman and ranking members of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Michael Jackson
P'raps he had 'em folded up underneath him and covered by a thin blanket? P'raps the viewing fellow was nearsighted and what was he or she doing looking at this fellows legs (or lack thereof) instead of attending to their own closed eyed transcending? Or did he see the legs disappear during

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Murderer

2014-04-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/10/2014 9:02 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: You need to stop the lying, Judy. Calling someone a troll makes assumptions about a writer's motives that are impossible to determine. The term troll is highly subjective, and some posts will look like trolling to some while

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Murderer

2014-04-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/10/2014 8:29 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Says Richard, proving he's a dishonest troll. None of what he says below is accurate. We could look it up - the search engine on Google Groups works good. But, I already posted the link to Yahoo Groups message from Robin where you

[FairfieldLife] Facilitating Consciousness-based Education in Fairfield, Iowa

2014-04-10 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Facilitating, Look for Strategic Planning on the main mum.edu web page, to find these links look under About MUM and scroll down to Master Plan . There are several links around the strategic planning ongoing to facilitate the meditating/consciousness-based education campus. We come a long

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/10/2014 8:17 AM, salyavin808 wrote: levitation would just as impressive, how about both at the same time? Apparently this is what happened to the Zen Master Rama - he levitated up on a stage in front of a big crowd, but nobody except Barry saw him do it - he must have been invisible to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/10/2014 8:11 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: it definitely increased the problems I had originally learned TM for. It looks like the TM worked in your case - you stopped thinking. Now you're un-stressing a lot. Just imagine how bad things could have been if you had still been living with your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Octarium

2014-04-10 Thread emilymaenot
Hi Raunchy. Thank you for posting this. It is a beautiful song sung with beautiful voices. Best to you, Em.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unstressing or Demons?

2014-04-10 Thread authfriend
1. I didn't lie, of course. Barry's attempt to claim I did is a huge mess of attempted obfuscation. 2. If Barry feels that having his facts and logic corrected is demeaning to him, he needs to improve his grasp of both. The idea that I must be a cult apologist because I make such corrections

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Share Long
turq, I read about TM increasing field independence research years ago. If I remember correctly, it refers to the capacity to be minimally influenced by outside factors. I would say, based on my own experience, that this result becomes more and more subtle with continued practice. And the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Share Long
turq, I didn't think you were saying I was wrong to believe, etc. and I appreciate your experience as an early TM teacher and your more recent experience as a science writer. But most of all, what I appreciate is whenever posts have a reasonable and non attacking tone. My longer answer is in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread salyavin808
We were always looking of ways to make a bit more money for the academy, I suggested we invite a TV crew in to film a flying course - one of those hidden camera reality TV things. I thought it would be sensational TV! But they didn't go for it for some reason. I wonder how the TMO would seem to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?   Invisibility would be fun, I heard they dropped it from the course because people were learning

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect? Invisibility would be fun, I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 3:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?   Actually, what you paid for was pretty elaborate instruction in how to use those English

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Share Long
salyavin, like I said to turq, I'm really enjoying answering these posts. Another benefit of TMSP, in my experience, has to do with developing opposite positive qualities. I think it has to do with focusing from the more settled levels of mind and body. Broad comprehension and sharp focus

[FairfieldLife] Roger Leahy, re Grain Elevator

2014-04-10 Thread Rick Archer
Hi All, Sorry to take so long to update you all on what I learned on Monday immediately after the 4/7 Supervisor’s meeting when I was talking with Todd Phillips, Exec VP of Heartland Coop. I found out that Heartland does NOT have a comparable grain elevator for us to visit in Iowa. [Most

[FairfieldLife] Re: Roger Leahy, re Grain Elevator

2014-04-10 Thread salyavin808
As long as it faces east I have no objections. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : Hi All, Sorry to take so long to update you all on what I learned on Monday immediately after the 4/7 Supervisor’s meeting when I was talking with Todd Phillips, Exec VP of Heartland Coop.

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Buddhist Rama Guru Was a Crook

2014-04-10 Thread nablusoss1008
He was a crook with a point of evolution of 1,30 at the time of death. Which is very, very far from enlightenment. You'd have to be pretty gullible to fall for something like that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 4/10/2014 8:17 AM, salyavin808 wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roger Leahy, re Grain Elevator

2014-04-10 Thread Share Long
The main entrance to Overland faces south and the secondary faces west. I'm just sayin... On Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:40 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:   As long as it faces east I have no objections. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : Hi All,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Bhairitu
Or course they but that's because the Placebo Effect *is* a siddhi technique. IOW, it is manifesting something by thought. This is something mechahumans don't understand. On 04/10/2014 01:14 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: I think one can make a case that they are. Here, I'll start... First, let's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread TurquoiseBee
Thanks for your feedback on this, Salyavin. As I've said several times, it's just a theory on my part, but it certainly explains my experiences with the TM-Sidhis. And in a very Occam's Razor fashion, since it's far less complicated than believing that some kind of mystical Woo Woo makes them

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Bhairitu
On 04/10/2014 05:10 AM, salyavin808 wrote: We were all disappointed when we found out it was in English, I was hoping for some super-mantra things. The tantric siddhis I learned are super-mantra things. They're all in Sanskrit. But we also translated them. And they work pretty much the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread TurquoiseBee
Share, thanks for your replies, and your honest attempt to try to explain your beliefs about the TM-Sidhis and how you believe they work. I'm still more attracted to my placebo effect theory, but so it goes... Isn't it interesting, as well, that you *could* propose an alternative theory, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?   Or course they but that's because the Placebo Effect is a siddhi technique.  IOW, it is manifesting

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Working for a Living

2014-04-10 Thread Bhairitu
Update your OpenSSL? ;-) On 04/10/2014 06:11 AM, Pundit Sir wrote: Today I sent several pings to my server and did an internet speed test. Inline image 1 On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com mailto:pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Just so you know, I've got a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Once again: Lithuanian and Sanskrit!

2014-04-10 Thread Bhairitu
Ever try learning Hindi? It's a bit more practical of use and can help in understanding Sanskrit. Lot's of Indian movies out their to help. On 04/10/2014 02:01 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote: http://vilnews.com/2011-04-incredible-indian-lithuanian-relations-2 FWIW, descendant

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Maharishi Murderer

2014-04-10 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 4/10/2014 9:02 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: You need to stop the lying, Judy. Calling someone a troll makes assumptions about a writer's motives that are impossible to determine. The term troll is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread authfriend
Reporters, note please that I was explicit that I was talking about my course (see the parenthetical Barry carefully ignores) and that I was responding to his claim about what you paid for (see below, in red)--not what I paid for. It may have been what Barry paid for, but it wasn't what I paid

[FairfieldLife] This is a real ad, for a real product

2014-04-10 Thread TurquoiseBee
And both are hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqHQ15-QpiI

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread authfriend
Of course, it's not at all interesting, because she didn't try to explain her beliefs about the TM-Sidhis and how she believes they work. What she did was describe what she felt were the benefits to herself, not an alternative theory. In fact, what she describes is fully consistent with TM

[FairfieldLife] Steve Vai on Transcendental Meditation

2014-04-10 Thread nablusoss1008
Steve Vai, one of the longer-running guitar gods of his era, attributes a large part of his success to regular practice of Transcendental Meditation. In a recent interview, Vai said: http://tmhome.com/experiences/steve-vai-inner-peace-and-balance/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread salyavin808
If I remember correctly, the overall reason for doing them is to keep yourself in that transcended state for longer and thus reap the hopeful benefits. Sometimes this was wonderful but most of the time the TMSP seemed to just blur up what I used to like about vanilla TM. On occasion

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread salyavin808
Hey cool, Bhairitu got the real deal! Do you still do them? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 04/10/2014 05:10 AM, salyavin808 wrote: We were all disappointed when we found out it was in English, I was hoping for some super-mantra things. The tantric

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unstressing or Demons?

2014-04-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/9/2014 7:49 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I know from experience if you are in the Movement and have no money or status in the organization they don't give a damn about you. So, why blame John Hagelin that you had no money or status or sex? Money and status are usually earned, then you get

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread authfriend
For the flying sutra, it's to act while in the transcendent state (which is what you experienced that one time--I've had that experience as well a couple of times, albeit more briefly--my body being this thing bouncing along within my consciousness, rather than my consciousness being within my

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/10/2014 11:00 AM, Bhairitu wrote: IOW, it is manifesting something by thought. You are not making any sense. How can a thought cause physical change? If true, that would be magic and David Blaine would be very interested in that kind of trick.

[FairfieldLife] This should fuck with them Chrisschuns

2014-04-10 Thread TurquoiseBee
It looks as if Jeesuz had a wife. Maybe it took so long for people to realize it because he did the King Tony thang and hid it from everyone.  :-) http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/04/10/new-tests-show-evidence-forgery-gospel-jesus-wife/IusII8b4eI86HgDTKipLhN/story.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/10/2014 3:14 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: OF COURSE this is a form of suggestion, and I think that combined with the fact that the people thinking this last sutra had paid thousands of dollars for the privilege, one can make a strong case that any bouncing that follows (caused by unconscious

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roger Leahy, re Grain Elevator

2014-04-10 Thread salyavin808
Sounds like a job for the pundits. Ready the troops! Snark aside, this is one of the problems of living in a predominantly rural community. Everything they build is just so darn utilitarian. I suppose the practical aspects are of paramount interest to farmers, it seems that way over here.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/10/2014 6:16 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Spot on Barry. It's just a theory, but I think one can make a stronger case for it than TM True Believers can make for how they believe the TM-Sidhis work. I guess we'll see... From what I've read, Rama was able to use mass hypnosis - that's much

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/10/2014 7:32 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: no one can divorce themselves from the placebo effect -- many studies have shown that it affects people equally, no matter what their intelligence or level of scientific training. If the suggestion is there to experience something, a certain percentage

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 4/10/2014 7:37 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: It's *just* a theory, but one that I tend to believe, based on both my scientific training and my personal experience, both as a TM teacher and as someone who has learned and practiced the TM-Sidhis. In the phenomenon known as the placebo effect, a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Bhairitu
On 04/10/2014 10:40 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 4/10/2014 11:00 AM, Bhairitu wrote: IOW, it is manifesting something by thought. You are not making any sense. That's because you are a mechahuman. And now Turq knows what a mechahuman is. :-D How can a thought cause physical

[FairfieldLife] Re: This should fuck with them Chrisschuns

2014-04-10 Thread nablusoss1008
The Turq is doing Goebbels-number again :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It looks as if Jeesuz had a wife. Maybe it took so long for people to realize it because he did the King Tony thang and hid it from everyone. :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Bhairitu
Of course. They are very interesting and powerful techniques. They do things that are not taught in the TM Sidhis. On 04/10/2014 10:04 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Hey cool, Bhairitu got the real deal! Do you still do them? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 04/10/2014

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?   On 04/10/2014 10:40 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:   On 4/10/2014 11:00 AM, Bhairitu wrote: IOW, it

[FairfieldLife] For Bhairitu...

2014-04-10 Thread TurquoiseBee
The French counterpart of Silicon Valley: http://www.theguardian.com/money/shortcuts/2014/apr/09/french-6pm-labour-agreement-work-emails-out-of-office

[FairfieldLife] A caring referral...

2014-04-10 Thread Dick Mays
Dear Friends and Community, I've been blessed to have experienced a number of health miracles. For example: 20 years ago a man in Wisconsin healed my torn knee ligament in 3 appointments. 16 years ago a friend in California helped me heal melanoma in 5 days. 15 years ago I healed my own arthritic

[FairfieldLife] To the lurking reporters

2014-04-10 Thread TurquoiseBee
I hope you don't get the impression that I am trying to badrap certain people on this forum. In fact, when it comes to authfriend (Judy Stein) and the person posting as Nablusos1008, I urge you to consider them essentially PERFECT examples of what TM and the TM-Sidhi program produce.

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Bhairitu...

2014-04-10 Thread Bhairitu
HP did a study back in the mid-1990s and determined that 50 hours a week was a maximum for their programmers. Beyond that the work was counterproductive. My boss often said that anyone who worked long hours was covering for their incompetence. There is a problem with computer programming in

[FairfieldLife] Re: To the lurking reporters

2014-04-10 Thread authfriend
Don't know about Nabby, but I don't consider myself a perfect example of anything, and vigorously deny anyone else's consideration of me as such. But you're welcome to consider me pretty damn good at exposing dishonesty and illogic and (as in this case) thinly disguised gratuitous

[FairfieldLife] Re: To the lurking reporters

2014-04-10 Thread authfriend
P.S.: If, as I strongly suspect, you lurking reporters are a figment of Barry's fevered imagination... ...never mind. Don't know about Nabby, but I don't consider myself a perfect example of anything, and vigorously deny anyone else's consideration of me as such. But you're

[FairfieldLife] How Long Is Reality?

2014-04-10 Thread jr_esq
Researchers have found reality is 15 seconds long. Do you agree with this? http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/9/5598130/your-reality-is-actually-fifteen-seconds-long http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/9/5598130/your-reality-is-actually-fifteen-seconds-long

[FairfieldLife] Petition concerning the grain elevator in Fairfield

2014-04-10 Thread Dick Mays
Hi! I just signed the petition THE MAYOR OF FAIRFIELD, FAIRFIELD CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND JEFFERSON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS: Postpone negotiations and representations to and with the Heartland Co-op until comprehensive impact studies on the potential risks and benefits of the proposed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread jr_esq
It could be that the TM siddhis are a form of auto-hypnotic suggestions. Or, that human consciousness is the higher dimension in the universe above the basic spacetime. As such, this is the reason why some highly evolved individuals can see the past, present, and the future. This could be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread salyavin808
CAN levitate? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : It could be that the TM siddhis are a form of auto-hypnotic suggestions. Or, that human consciousness is the higher dimension in the universe above the basic spacetime. As such, this is the reason why some highly

[FairfieldLife] Loop Quantum Cosmology

2014-04-10 Thread jr_esq
This is similar to the Big Bounce Theory which state that the universe today is a result of the contraction of the previous universe into a singularity. But the proponents of this LQC do not deny that the current universe is expanding at an accelerating rate.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This should fuck with them Chrisschuns

2014-04-10 Thread Mike Dixon
Right, it's not a forgery and was written some 600 years after Christ. She was pretty old when she wrote it!  On Thursday, April 10, 2014 11:43 AM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:   The Turq is doing Goebbels-number again :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?

2014-04-10 Thread Michael Jackson
I would-a smuggled money for Marshy if he'd-a asked me, as long as I got to stick a third of it in my pocket. On Thu, 4/10/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect? To:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roger Leahy, re Grain Elevator

2014-04-10 Thread Michael Jackson
what do you mean, not for much longer? How is that going to change? On Thu, 4/10/14, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roger Leahy, re Grain Elevator To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April

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