Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERYTHING you've ever heard about enlightenment is hearsay

2014-06-06 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 4:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERYTHING you've ever heard about enlightenment is hearsay   1. Barry's just has opinions ... that is all.  This is

[FairfieldLife] Gotta love India!

2014-06-06 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Whose on first!?! http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27727812 Clashes at India's Golden Temple Several people are hurt as Sikh groups brandishing swords clash at India's Golden Temple during prayers to mark the 1984 military assault. View on www.bbc.com Preview by Yahoo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Harri Aalto's Observations of Reality

2014-06-06 Thread cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FWIW, 'aalto' means 'wave'. Have no idea whether he's related to the famous(?) Finnish architect Alvar Aalto...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Harri Aalto's Observations of Reality

2014-06-06 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com   FWIW, 'aalto' means 'wave'.  Have no idea whether he's related to the famous(?) Finnish architect Alvar Aalto... I don't know whether me knowing who he is helps to make him famous, but I do. He designed the beautiful

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guns in Canada

2014-06-06 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
But Richard isn't the shooter a citizen? And aren't the citizens then also becoming shooters? What is the distinction that you're making? Wouldn't it be better for the citizens to call the police to deal with the shooter? It seems like the other path leads to total anarchy. On Thursday, June

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERYTHING you've ever heard about enlightenment is hearsay

2014-06-06 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You know Barry, everything you say here may be true. And really, I don't think many would disagree, because it sort of doesn't matter in this setting. I think most people get this idea that subjective experiences are just that. What I find kind of odd, is that you've made this, like, you're

Re: [FairfieldLife] Living in an American Indian village

2014-06-06 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yeah, big difference between what is called a mobile home park (where I am, for long term residents, few amenities, and inexpensive). Then, there are the RV Resorts, like KOA and others. Amenities like a convenience store and pool. Typically $40/night for space rental, incl water, sewage, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Boko Haram Slaughters Hundreds

2014-06-06 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Aside from acting in self-defense, sane people must be excited, and demonize those they are about to kill, in order to overcome the natural revulsion we all have, for committing murder. Additionally, in such fanatical groups, you don't last long as a voice of moderation, or reason, so the group

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Printing' Humans to Conquer Space

2014-06-06 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/5/2014 10:55 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richard, You said, There may be a universal consciousness, but probably there is no Transcendental Person. How can a universal consciousness exist without IT being a Transcendental Person? It could be a disembodied spirit,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-06 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't believe this has been established, Richard. I don't recall ever hearing Maharishi (on tape) or TM teachers say the bija mantras have no semantic meaning, only that they were meaningless sounds. TM critics have objected to meaningless sounds, saying that because Hindus associate the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Gotta love India!

2014-06-06 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/6/2014 5:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Whose on first!?! Never pass up a tragedy if you think it will help you justify your own religious bias. Go figure. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27727812 image

[FairfieldLife] Re: Boko Haram Slaughters Hundreds

2014-06-06 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : What kind of beings are they who chant Allahu Akbar and simultaneously shoot hundreds of innocent people in the name of a political agenda? Wearing disguise, Boko Haram slaughters hundreds

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERYTHING you've ever heard about enlightenment is hearsay

2014-06-06 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 4:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERYTHING you've ever heard about enlightenment is hearsay

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Boko Haram Slaughters Hundreds

2014-06-06 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Nothing new here dude. This is how Islam , the religion of peace, has done it since it's inception. Submission via the sword. The most common tactic is to move in and play the role of peaceful, submissive minority but demand your rights and once you're the majority, make the others be the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gotta love India!

2014-06-06 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Whose on first!?! http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27727812 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27727812 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-27727812 Clashes at India's Golden Temple

[FairfieldLife] Former TM teachers

2014-06-06 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Always good to see what former TM teachers are doing. Here is one: http://www.bob-fickes.com/blog/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guns in Canada

2014-06-06 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : But Richard isn't the shooter a citizen? And aren't the citizens then also becoming shooters? What is the distinction that you're making? Wouldn't it be better for the citizens to call the police to deal with the shooter? It

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guns in Canada

2014-06-06 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/6/2014 6:27 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: But Richard isn't the shooter a citizen? And aren't the citizens then also becoming shooters? What is the distinction that you're making? Wouldn't it be better for the citizens to call the police to deal with the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Former TM teachers

2014-06-06 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Always good to see what former TM teachers are doing. Here is one: Blog | Bob Fickes Enlightenment Program | Fulfillment Meditation ~ Quantum Field Super-Consciousness http://www.bob-fickes.com/blog/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Former TM teachers

2014-06-06 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Always good to see what former TM teachers are doing. Here is one: http://www.bob-fickes.com/blog/ http://www.bob-fickes.com/blog/ This one part of a sentence on Bob's website made me chuckle, just a teeny bit: Many of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERYTHING you've ever heard about enlightenment is hearsay

2014-06-06 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/6/2014 6:34 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: But, maybe there are other factors at work driving this agenda of yours. Dunno. /It's all about Judy, Steve./ How many times do I have to remind you of this? I've been reading these messages posted by Barry since at least

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guns in Canada

2014-06-06 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
As usual you are an idiot and your thinking, if it can be called such, is flawed. Anyone who wants to rob a bank is going to do so regardless of how many bank patrons are armed. The crook would simply try to insure he was better armed than any potential citizen hero. Who is gonna try to whip

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Former TM teachers

2014-06-06 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
He became a TM teacher in the late 60's I think. He was supposedly one of the directors of KSCI, the old TM tv station out in LA, I think? He claimed to be the person that convinced Marshy to dismantle the Movement structure that revolved around having Area Capitols and all the local centers

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Former TM teachers

2014-06-06 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Bob was always VERY good at writing copy to entice you to buy whatever he was selling. I got a mantra from him back in the early 1990's. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Former TM teachers

2014-06-06 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh and check this out from his home page: Real Meditation has been rediscovered after being buried in the earth for hundreds of years. Fulfillment Meditation, also known as Quantum Meditation, is the most powerful form of meditation available in the world today. It is rare to find a form of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guns in Canada

2014-06-06 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 6/6/2014 6:27 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: But Richard isn't the shooter a citizen? And aren't the citizens then also becoming shooters? What is the distinction that you're

[FairfieldLife] ques for Lawson

2014-06-06 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Lawson, I've been unable to find a quote from Maharishi that I saw very recently. Maybe you posted it. Had to do with how there is no conflict between science and spirituality, that every state of consciousness has a corresponding physiology. If you posted that, could you repost? Thanks, Share

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-06 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/6/2014 7:19 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I don't believe this has been established, Richard. I don't recall ever hearing Maharishi (on tape) or TM teachers say the bija mantras have no semantic meaning, only that they were meaningless sounds. TM critics have objected

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-06 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I can't cite chapter and verse where Maharishi ever said the mantras were meaningless sounds, but it's certainly what he told his teachers to say. Of course meaningless in the semantic sense doesn't mean the sounds are of no value. According to Maharishi, a mantra is a sound whose effects are

[FairfieldLife] Re: ques for Lawson

2014-06-06 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Did you do a search for the term physiology, Share? I did, and this came right up: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/385624 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/385624 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guns in Canada

2014-06-06 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, thank you so much for your reply. Whether or not you're biased, you make some good points and got me rethinking the whole thing. And I just googled on Luby massacre. According to wikipedia the shooter targeted women. And here's a statistic for you: in the past 33 years, 70 of 71 mass

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ques for Lawson

2014-06-06 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks so much, Judy, this is it. On Friday, June 6, 2014 9:35 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   Did you do a search for the term physiology, Share? I did, and this came right up:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERYTHING you've ever heard about enlightenment is hearsay

2014-06-06 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It's not all about Judy, Richard. Barry has his obsessions with certain people--me and Robin, among others--but we're hardly all that motivates his posts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 6/6/2014 6:34 AM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERYTHING you've ever heard about enlightenment is hearsay

2014-06-06 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Er...thank you, I guess, for the combination defense and obligatory putdown. :-) I agree that many things -- including whimsy, as in this case -- motivate my posts. I do not agree with your claims (for indeed, that is all they are) that I am obsessed with either you or Robin. W.r.t. Robin, I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERYTHING you've ever heard about enlightenment is hearsay

2014-06-06 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/6/2014 4:12 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: 1. Barry's just has opinions ... that is all. This is correct. I do not hold my opinions to be anything other than opinion. Furthermore, I do not hold *your* opinions, or those of anyone else, to be anything more

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERYTHING you've ever heard about enlightenment is hearsay

2014-06-06 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com   You know Barry, everything you say here may be true.  And really, I don't think many would disagree, because it sort of doesn't matter in this setting.  I think most people get this idea that subjective experiences

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Former TM teachers

2014-06-06 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh and check this out from his home page: Real Meditation has been rediscovered after being buried in the earth for hundreds of years. Fulfillment Meditation, also known as Quantum Meditation, is the most powerful form of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Former TM teachers

2014-06-06 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/6/2014 8:18 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Always good to see what former TM teachers are doing. Here is one: http://www.bob-fickes.com/blog/ Not so sure if it's good to see what some former TMers are doing - they don't seem to be doing very well. Go

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERYTHING you've ever heard about enlightenment is hearsay

2014-06-06 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
But truth, Richard, in the sense of enlightenment, and maybe in any other sense as well, is un-stateable, that is what we say is at best a crude representation of truth, if truth exists. That leaves us with basically opinions about everything, only a few items perhaps that we can be truthful

[FairfieldLife] What he said...

2014-06-06 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-06 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I can't cite chapter and verse where Maharishi ever said the mantras were meaningless sounds, but it's certainly what he told his teachers to say. Of course meaningless in the semantic sense doesn't mean the sounds are of no

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Boko Haram Slaughters Hundreds

2014-06-06 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/6/2014 8:19 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Nothing new here dude. This is how Islam , the religion of peace, has done it since it's inception. Submission via the sword. The most common tactic is to move in and play the role of peaceful, submissive minority

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERYTHING you've ever heard about enlightenment is hearsay

2014-06-06 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Er...thank you, I guess, for the combination defense and obligatory putdown. :-) I agree that many things -- including whimsy, as in this case -- motivate my posts. I do not agree with your claims (for indeed, that is all they

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERYTHING you've ever heard about enlightenment is hearsay

2014-06-06 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com   But truth, Richard, in the sense of enlightenment, and maybe in any other sense as well, is un-stateable, that is what we say is at best a crude representation of truth, if truth exists. That leaves us with basically

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gotta love India!

2014-06-06 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/6/2014 8:19 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Nothing like going on a Holy pilgrimage and clubbing and beating a few people once you get there. Kinda like the smell of napalm in the morning. Apparently the Sikhs are on edge and still pretty upset and tempers are easily

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERYTHING you've ever heard about enlightenment is hearsay

2014-06-06 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 6/6/2014 4:12 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: 1. Barry's just has opinions ... that is all. This is correct. I do not hold my opinions to be anything other than opinion.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: detailed advanced technique discussion = bye bye for me.

2014-06-06 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 06/05/2014 08:01 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 6/5/2014 7:16 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 06/05/2014 04:02 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 6/5/2014 1:57 PM, Bhairitu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Former TM teachers

2014-06-06 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
those papers are quite weak and biased and if TM did what the papers SAY it does, we wouldn't have the neganauts, the quitters, the defectors to other gurus, the mental cases and the suicides and attempted suicides now would we? From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Former TM teachers

2014-06-06 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Looks like still teaching meditation like it is TM (or is TM). Actually no puja is needed if you teach via shaktipat. On 06/06/2014 06:18 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Always good to see what former TM teachers are doing. Here is one:

Re: [FairfieldLife] ques for Lawson

2014-06-06 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Lawson has left the building. On 06/06/2014 07:22 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Lawson, I've been unable to find a quote from Maharishi that I saw very recently. Maybe you posted it. Had to do with how there is no conflict between science and spirituality, that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: detailed advanced technique discussion = bye bye for me.

2014-06-06 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
maybe not the Official Recertified and Members in Good Standing of the TMO and Global Country of World Peace, but lots of the former TM teachers like Bob Fickes have set themselves up as gurus. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

[FairfieldLife] Karen Johnson: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 06/06/2014

2014-06-06 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
blog updates from Buddha at the Gas Pump https://gallery.mailchimp.com/e709a491029b04e745834d34d/images/star.gif If you are not doing so already, please consider donating a minimum of $1 or $2 per month to help offset basic monthly expenses associated with hosting, MailChimp, etc. Of

[FairfieldLife] COGNISING MANTRAS

2014-06-06 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
('Cognizing' for the Americans.) On 06/04/2014 05:28 PM, authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Gee, in my understanding, you get only one bija mantra when you're initiated. The advanced techniques aren't new bija mantras, they're actual Sanskrit words that you use with your original bija

Re: [FairfieldLife] Former TM teachers

2014-06-06 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
He still does puja, but he puts pics of other masters even mythical masters like Merlin. I don't know if he has changed the words or added anything to the words.  From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guns in Canada

2014-06-06 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/6/2014 8:26 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : But Richard isn't the shooter a citizen? And aren't the citizens then also becoming shooters? What is the distinction that you're making? Wouldn't it be better for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERYTHING you've ever heard about enlightenment is hearsay

2014-06-06 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well, of course you don't agree. There's plenty of evidence to the contrary in your posts, however, going all the way back to alt.m.t (at least with regard to me). (See Frantz Fanon, BTW.) As far as Robin is concerned, I think you were and are obsessed with him because he was so vastly much

[FairfieldLife] Re: COGNISING MANTRAS

2014-06-06 Thread marty...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
When I was on staff at Cobb, we had TM teacher whose movement specialty was teaching TM to the deaf. She claimed that when she signed the mantra (spelled it into their hand or some such) they transcended like crazy and loved it.

[FairfieldLife] Gurus?

2014-06-06 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Guru-Shmuru blah blah blah. The word ‘Guru’ just signifies a spiritual mentor in Sanskrit based lineages. There are ways to qualify a traditional guru in Indian and Tibetan lineages (sampradaya-s) and training with a traditional spiritual mentor is an important part of that definition.

Re: [FairfieldLife] COGNISING MANTRAS

2014-06-06 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
My tantra teacher didn't think that mantras were cognized but more a process of trial and error. The science of mantras is mantra shastra and tied to nada yoga the science of sound. Mantras are resonance patterns that vibrate sympathetically with different parts of the nervous systems

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guns in Canada

2014-06-06 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/6/2014 8:56 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It would be really scary if an authoritarian government would take away everyone's civil rights and then impose their will on the people by force of arms. Take away that civil right and see if I care. It is a right not based

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: COGNISING MANTRAS

2014-06-06 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That's interesting. I have never heard much about Cobb - what was it like there? From: marty...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 12:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: COGNISING

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guns in Canada

2014-06-06 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/6/2014 8:57 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: As usual you are an idiot and your thinking, if it can be called such, is flawed. Anyone who wants to rob a bank is going to do so regardless of how many bank patrons are armed. The crook would simply try to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guns in Canada

2014-06-06 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
/Everyone should take self-defense weapon training of some kind, even if it's just pepper-spray. /On 6/6/2014 8:57 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Most people who buy handguns for the just in case scenarios never bother to train with them and have no idea

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Former TM teachers

2014-06-06 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/6/2014 9:03 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: And by the way, this: there is no way to prove any of his techniques work or don't work since they are all based on subjective experience also applies to TM and all its techniques and nostrums. It has already

Re: [FairfieldLife] Gurus?

2014-06-06 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
In many traditions a guru is an acharya which means they have achieved a certain level of expertise and are given that title by their guru. They are then allowed to make other archaryas. Maharishi was not a guru just a low level monk teaching meditation. He made a point about addressing SBS

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guns in Canada

2014-06-06 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
they were mainly afraid of slave revolts as I have said before here - you talk about the 2nd Amendment like it is a god which it isn't. From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Former TM teachers

2014-06-06 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Reality is reality. Perception is made up bullshit most of the time. From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 1:45 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: COGNISING MANTRAS

2014-06-06 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It was actually a pretty cool place, an old, rustic resort/lodge facility. Lots of fun was had there before the TM movement went all Puritan on everybody's asses.  From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: COGNISING MANTRAS

2014-06-06 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I was there for a weekend residence course probably in 1974. Charile Lutes gave a talk on Saturday night. I returned in 1978 to do learn the Sidhis. On 06/06/2014 10:59 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It was actually a pretty cool place, an old, rustic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-06 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 6/6/2014 9:33 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I can't cite chapter and verse where Maharishi ever said the mantras were meaningless sounds, but it's certainly what he told his teachers to say. Thanks for the response. But, if true, I can't imagine any TM teacher not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Boko Haram Slaughters Hundreds

2014-06-06 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, so be moderate in all things, even moderation? (-: On Friday, June 6, 2014 10:31 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   On 6/6/2014 8:19 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Nothing new here

[FairfieldLife] Re: COGNISING MANTRAS

2014-06-06 Thread marty...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
As TB said, it was rustic and fun. It was an old resort from the prohibition period, and was quite popular at one time. There was supposedly a secret tunnel that ran from under the dance hall (Hall of Knowledge) to the old barn across the street: where they hid the whiskey. I went down

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Effort means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

2014-06-06 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ann, I like the point you're making here. And I'd add that we humans are meaning makers. We can attribute meaning to the least little thing. And in the case of the natural sounds you mention, it's more than intellectual meaning. If a sound is pleasant, I think that on a deep level, we think it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EVERYTHING you've ever heard about enlightenment is hearsay

2014-06-06 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
P.S.: Can't resist adding: I guess you think Curtis has very low standards, huh? Before their relationship came apart, Curtis found Robin interesting enough to spend a great deal of time and effort, online and off, on an extended conversation with him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Boko Haram just following muslim deen

2014-06-06 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Although called the religion of peace, al-islam is actually the religion of submission. Islam is an Arabic word meaning submission and in the religious context means submission to the will of God. Islam is derived from the triliteral Arabic word sal’m which literally means peace Unless you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: COGNISING MANTRAS

2014-06-06 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Because of the hilly landscape in the area, one of the most fun things to do at Cobb Mountain (if you had the money and didn't mind sneakin' away from the course to do it) was to take a glider ride. I did that a couple of times, and it was neat. The glider would get towed into the air, and then

[FairfieldLife] CIA's first tweet

2014-06-06 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
We can neither confirm nor deny that this is our first tweet. 1:49 PM - 6 Jun 2014 https://twitter.com/CIA/statuses/474971393852182528 This is for real, not a hoax. The CIA has a sense of humor. Who knew?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: COGNISING MANTRAS

2014-06-06 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Very cool - I appreciate everyone serving us up some old Movement history. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 3:06 PM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Godfather of Ecstasy dies

2014-06-06 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
This was a pretty good documentary with some local scenery. Shulgin lived about 8-10 miles from here near Lafayette on a farm in unincorporated area (hence why the Contra Costa Sheriff's department is raiding him in the film). I see he had a nice view of Mt. Diablo from his place. On

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guns in Canada

2014-06-06 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, I'm still mulling all this over. Some of the worst mass murders have been in school settings. In that case, who should be carrying the guns? And if not carrying, where should the guns be stored? On Friday, June 6, 2014 11:32 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] CIA's first tweet

2014-06-06 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
There's hope for us yet (-: PS First tweet maybe. Definitely not first visit to twitter! On Friday, June 6, 2014 2:12 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   We can neither confirm nor deny that this is our first tweet. 1:49 PM - 6 Jun 2014 This

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Printing' Humans to Conquer Space

2014-06-06 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, That's a matter of debate which religions today have attempted to answer. The Jews basically believe in Yahweh, a disembodied spirit. Whereas, Christians believe in a personal deity in Jesus. The same can be said with the Buddhists when compared to the Vaishnavas who believe in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Boko Haram Slaughters Hundreds

2014-06-06 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ann, They may think they're doing it in the name of their deity. But when one looks at it closely, they've actually been deceived due to their own ignorance or more likely their own pride. As such, they've become devils, or rakshashas who are mentioned in the vedic mythology. ---In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Boko Haram Slaughters Hundreds

2014-06-06 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Fleetwood, As I mentioned to Ann, these people have become rakshasas who are devils and are below the status of human beings, but are above the status of animals. This how the Srimad Bhagavatam describes the rakshasas which is still apropos in modern times. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: COGNISING MANTRAS

2014-06-06 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I recall that folks were pretty cool and fun at the '74 residence course but there were a lot of uptight staff by '77 except for the couple who lead the Sidhi's course. On 06/06/2014 11:54 AM, marty...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: As TB said, it was rustic and fun. It was an old resort

Re: [FairfieldLife] CIA's first tweet

2014-06-06 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Are you following them? :-D On 06/06/2014 12:12 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: We can neither confirm nor deny that this is our first tweet. 1:49 PM - 6 Jun 2014 https://twitter.com/CIA/statuses/474971393852182528 This is for real, not a hoax. The CIA has a sense of humor.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Boko Haram Slaughters Hundreds

2014-06-06 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Mike, This scenario had been played out in the eras even before Islam came into existence. My point is that it takes a human being to act out the best possible solution to any conflicts that may occur in any situation. When a human being becomes blinded by greed, hate and even a mistaken

[FairfieldLife] Surface Pro 3

2014-06-06 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
...the Surface Pro 3 features a 12-inch, 2560 x 144o resolution display, Core i3/i5/i7 processors, up to 8 GB of RAM, between 64-512GB of internal storage, 5-megapixel front- and rear-facing cameras, a 9 hour battery life and Windows 8.1 Pro. The beastly tablet will start at $799, and will be

[FairfieldLife] Re: EVERYTHING you've ever heard about enlightenment is hearsay

2014-06-06 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I solemnly declare it to be true that there is no such thing as Truth. I unconditionally, absolutely declare that only relative truth can be declared or known. Barry is aware. We possess the evidence here on FFL. He may attempt to discredit that evidence by claiming that we cannot authentic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Boko Haram Slaughters Hundreds

2014-06-06 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Share, What he's describing has been addressed by the vedic story relating to the churning of the milk ocean by the devas and the asuras to create amrita. In the process, poison was created which was drunk by Shiva. So, the question remains: where is Shiva now? ---In

[FairfieldLife] One Way Or Another

2014-06-06 Thread Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
One Way Or Another - Blondie http://youtu.be/KXewIR7Y7cc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Boko Haram just following muslim deen

2014-06-06 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Emptybill, It takes a human being to discern between good and evil. If the person succeeds, then he or she becomes a deva or as a son and daughter of God. Otherwise, the person becomes demonic, an entity below the human being but is above the animals. ---In

[FairfieldLife] ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS [1 Attachment]

2014-06-06 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS Some days ago emptybill posted (Lightmint vs EEG Claptrap) a quote by James Swartz. After poking around for a while I found this fellow's web site. Just after I came on FFL in 2011, yuxifero also responded to a post I had made with a link to his site. Swartz had written

[FairfieldLife] Re: Boko Haram Slaughters Hundreds

2014-06-06 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Apparently you have never heard of the Kalachakra Tantra much less read any of it. Rudra Chakrin is prophesied to kick ass 'cause the devas don't need no army and don't really care. For them it's all human folly.

Re: [FairfieldLife] COGNISING MANTRAS

2014-06-06 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I would love to find the old book Bob got the prana mantras from. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 1:46 PM

[FairfieldLife] Re: ENLIGHTENMENT MYTHS

2014-06-06 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Robin, when he was here, wasn't trying to exorcise anybody. He not only gave that up after his group folded but decided it was very much the wrong thing to do. Reminds me of Curtis, (and even Robin, were he not off the deep end - this is now Robin might sound if he knew what he was talking

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ques for Lawson

2014-06-06 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Great Quote. Got a citation for this quote? Where did this quote come from? Was it published? Anywhere? Date or time-frame? Just wondering. A citation with a little more info would be useful. Thanks, -Buck Spiritual and Material Values Every experience has its level of physiology, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: One Way Or Another

2014-06-06 Thread nablusoss1008
Haha, thanks for posting, But there is Nothing there. Blondie Debbie Harry BBC The One Show 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByFeANQDKAo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByFeANQDKAo Blondie Debbie Harry BBC The One Show 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByFeANQDKAo Debbie Harry

Re: [FairfieldLife] CIA's first tweet

2014-06-06 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
LOL. No, Slate.com reported this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Are you following them? :-D On 06/06/2014 12:12 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: We can neither confirm nor deny that this is our first tweet. 1:49 PM - 6 Jun

[FairfieldLife] Experience on the Invincible America Assembly

2014-06-06 Thread Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife]
Reported from a participant on the Invincible America Assembly at one of our recent, daily Experience Meetings. Feel welcome to join us! Dick Points to Unboundedness I notice during program that the expanded stillness of my physiology has the same humming, crystalline quality that is my whole

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