[FairfieldLife] Re: Kundalini experience means nothing whatsoever

2012-07-07 Thread emptybill
--- iranitea no_reply@... wrote: There are 112 ways of transcending ... --- emptybill@ wrote: Who transcends what? --- iranitea no_reply@... wrote: Always a good question. In fact this is THE question for anyone doing TM or Sahaj meditation and any type of yoga

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kundalini experience means nothing whatsoever

2012-07-07 Thread emptybill
And You and Your are the who of the question? And consciousness is something else? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 07/07/2012 04:36 PM, emptybill wrote: --- iranitea no_reply@ wrote: There are 112 ways of transcending ... --- emptybill

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kundalini experience means nothing whatsoever

2012-07-07 Thread emptybill
@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: --- iranitea no_reply@ wrote: There are 112 ways of transcending ... --- emptybill@ wrote: Who transcends what? --- iranitea no_reply@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Kundalini experience means nothing whatsoever

2012-07-05 Thread emptybill
Why kundalini shakti experiences mean nothing at all about awakening/enlightenment. http://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/Vedanta\ _and_Kundalini.pdf

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Stagirite Beats Up on The Veda and SCI

2012-07-04 Thread emptybill
. That is … if there are no Catholic priests around. I would hate to be set upon in front of the angels. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Judy Please ... keep it up. The sheer animus and invective spewed out

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Stagirite Beats Up on The Veda and ques to Bill

2012-07-04 Thread emptybill
From: emptybill emptybill@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 7:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Stagirite Beats Up on The Veda and SCI  Jason The only place to begin is at the beginning - with Shankara's commentaries on the original Upanishads. He

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Stagirite Beats Up on The Veda and SCI

2012-07-04 Thread emptybill
Robin Before I can reply to your astounding revelations, I need to know if God spoke to you in English. I'm also wondering which kind … the Queen's English, Californian `Smerican, Canadian North Yapalong or Hindi-Brit Barrister. Without knowing God's own preference, I would not know which way

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Stagirite Beats Up on The Veda and SCI

2012-07-04 Thread emptybill
than omens of either watching the flights or reading the entrails of birds, which were two respected forms of divination of the time. by Alan G. Hefner --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Relationships: master-disciple or guru-groupie?

2012-07-04 Thread emptybill
Nabs It would be more accurate and entertaining if you would call him by the correct insult ... Dolly Lhama. He would probably find it funny. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Stagirite Beats Up on The Veda and SCI

2012-07-03 Thread emptybill
Although you were not discussed in my comments to Jason, you have enacted my point so well that you demonstrate your ability to embody the role. Good job. You get a gold star. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Stagirite Beats Up on The Veda and SCI

2012-07-03 Thread emptybill
in for glance. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Although you were not discussed in my comments to Jason, Yes, I was, empty. Your nitwit you comment referred to what I had said to Jason (now

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Stagirite Beats Up on The Veda and SCI

2012-07-02 Thread emptybill
because we done wrong. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: Sorry for the late reply, emptybill. I was off the grid for a week. Please note that Robin's experience of being controlled by something else implies 'duality'. Basic logic suggests that such a duality

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Stagirite Beats Up on The Veda and SCI

2012-07-02 Thread emptybill
Jason The only place to begin is at the beginning - with Shankara's commentaries on the original Upanishads. He does not discuss attaining some kind of Unity Consciousness through any type of yoga. Contrarily, he points to directly realizing what we already are - he points to THAT reality

[FairfieldLife] Re: US Supreme Court upholds healthcare reform law

2012-07-01 Thread emptybill
Go back behind the curtain Herschmann Chaim and dwell with your resentments. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: Folks.it's no longer insurance! It's socialized medicine! You are an ignorant

[FairfieldLife] Re: Retreat center to open at Heavenly Mtn.

2012-06-28 Thread emptybill
Chaim At least neither of them has the arrogance to call themselves Babaji ... venerable father. Stage magicians and salespeople like to puff themselves up this way. Maybe you should go back, re-title and then attempt to resurrect the Palast des Okkulten. Yep, the guy behind the curtain has

[FairfieldLife] Re: US Supreme Court upholds healthcare reform law

2012-06-28 Thread emptybill
Then you are just an old fuck - waiting to die. However, maybe you can get appointed to one of the British-like death panels that are inevitable. That way they won't vote so quickly that you too must lie down with the lambs on the gallow-gurnies just to liberate the 30 something from the yoke

[FairfieldLife] Re: US Supreme Court upholds healthcare reform law

2012-06-28 Thread emptybill
. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Then you are just an old fuck - waiting to die. However, maybe you can get appointed to one of the British-like death panels that are inevitable. That way they won't vote so quickly that you too must lie down

[FairfieldLife] Re: US Supreme Court upholds healthcare reform law

2012-06-28 Thread emptybill
and most dentists won't except it. Wait 'til you're an old fuck if you make it there. On 06/28/2012 11:43 AM, emptybill wrote: Then you are just an old fuck - waiting to die. However, maybe you can get appointed to one of the British-like death panels that are inevitable

[FairfieldLife] Re: US Supreme Court upholds healthcare reform law

2012-06-28 Thread emptybill
a friend who just last week was told that her insurance would not fund a treatment that is vital to her health. Too expensive. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: This is just more bullshit obfuscation to camouflage the truth. http://www.chicagonow.com/publius

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The End of the Time= 13 Hellish Timez'...

2012-06-26 Thread emptybill
Still parading around your prophetic claims Chaim? Last time you couldn't even tell your own fortune - much less the fortune of someone else. Better go get a checking Herschmann - before you blunder down the same foolish trails of your old buddies with their twisted-cross. By the way … you know

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The End of the Time= 13 Hellish Timez'...

2012-06-26 Thread emptybill
... To repeat just in case Yahoozy coughs again ... Still parading around your prophetic claims Chaim? Last time you couldn't even tell your own fortune - much less the fortune of someone else. Better go get a checking Herschmann - before you blunder down the same trails of your old buddies

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Stagirite Beats Up on The Veda and SCI

2012-06-24 Thread emptybill
Jason As you seem to have learned in your inquiries, you can't take Robin's solipsistic hermeneutics too seriously. His framework for comparing Yoga/Vedanta/Eastern spirituality against some sort of quasi-neo-Thomism is myopic at best - although in actuality it is simply uninformed. I think

[FairfieldLife] Green ‘drivel’ exposed

2012-06-23 Thread emptybill
Green `drivel' exposedThe godfather of global warming lowers the boom on climate change hysteria Two months ago, James Lovelock, the godfather of global warming, gave a startling interview to msnbc.com in which he acknowledged he had been unduly alarmist about climate change. The implications

[FairfieldLife] Re: My TM mantra dilemna--- help requested...

2012-06-23 Thread emptybill
Sorry but you exhibit a belief in the value of non-belief while devaluing metaphysical belief. Neither proposition is empirically verifiable. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: [...] We differ in our understanding of terms. Hinduism is a religion

[FairfieldLife] Re: My TM mantra dilemna--- help requested...

2012-06-22 Thread emptybill
Meditators can easily learn how to pronounce Sanskrit seed sounds (bija) correctly, along with the proper chanting sequence to awaken them. This practice lights up the chakras like a Christmas tree and illuminates the subtle nadi system. $16 for the CD when purchased through American Sanskrit

[FairfieldLife] Re: My TM mantra dilemna--- help requested...

2012-06-22 Thread emptybill
the clarity, exactness and fidelity of the recitations. All of it is designed for you to learn and recite the recitation yourself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: Meditators can easily learn how to pronounce Sanskrit seed sounds (bija) correctly, along

[FairfieldLife] Re: There is no such thing as Enlightenment

2012-06-20 Thread emptybill
(matra) discernment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: emptybill: This clearly predates Gautama Shakyamuni by a good 150-200 years... Maybe you should state the actual dates of the historical Buddha. One famous Upanishad is traditionally

[FairfieldLife] Re: There is no such thing as Enlightenment

2012-06-18 Thread emptybill
not depart on the Northern path (devayana) but is liberated directly through seeing the Self and that this liberation is without delay (by traversing a gradual path). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill

[FairfieldLife] Re: There is no such thing as Enlightenment

2012-06-17 Thread emptybill
Iran I Tea I find this particular article by Swartz to be an accurate representation of Shankara's central points about samyag-darshana - the gnosis of that Self which can never be an object or a subject. About Swartz's other essays I haven't read and cannot say. What his booklet does not have

[FairfieldLife] Re: India drowning in its own excreta, oh shit

2012-06-17 Thread emptybill
You are rather late to get the news. Almost every house unit at Mohenjo-daro was equipped with a private bathing area with drains to take the dirty water out into a larger drain that emptied into a sewage drain. Many of these bathing areas had water tight floors to keep moisture from seeping

[FairfieldLife] Re: A must book for sidhas?

2012-06-16 Thread emptybill
If you have Kindle readings software on your droid you can rent this e-book for $9.95. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/search?index=bookslinkCode=qskeywords=04153\ 91156

[FairfieldLife] Re: There is no such thing as Enlightenment

2012-06-16 Thread emptybill
to nirvana/blowning out for Buddhists but for Shankara it leads to perfect knowledge (vidya). Better give up Wiki O' Willy and go get some authentic sources. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: emptybill: It gives an accurate account of Shankara's central

[FairfieldLife] Re: There is no such thing as Enlightenment

2012-06-16 Thread emptybill
: --- emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Willy, Very inaccurate statements. Buddhism is not the source of Advaita. Vijñanavada is a Buddhist philosophical school while Yogacara is the theoretical compendium of its practices. Shankara saved some of his most pointed criticisms for the Buddhists of his

[FairfieldLife] Re: There is no such thing as Enlightenment

2012-06-16 Thread emptybill
, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: What is Advaita? This thirty page pamphlet explains why enlightenment is not a permanent experience of a particular state of consciousness, why it is not a thought-free mind

[FairfieldLife] Re: There is no such thing as Enlightenment

2012-06-14 Thread emptybill
advaita and the yogic advaita that appeared after the fourteenth century. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote: On Jun 13, 2012, at 7:16 PM, emptybill wrote: What is Advaita? Yes, there is such a thing as 'Enlightenment' as all the Ancient texts in every

[FairfieldLife] Re: There is no such thing as Enlightenment

2012-06-14 Thread emptybill
@... wrote: On 06/14/2012 11:49 AM, emptybill wrote: Chaim … you are grandstanding again. Is this your new Palace of the Occult? Are you still on that stage … even here? Consider reading the article before you comment. It gives an accurate account of Shankara's central teaching

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Buddhists see through TM

2012-06-13 Thread emptybill
Perhaps you haven't considered the etymology of the word individual: from Middle English/Old French (meaning *single*)== Latin (in = not and dividuus = dividable (i.e. not divisible). Oneness is just a conceptual opposite to multiplicity. So what? These authors makes a lot of generalizations

[FairfieldLife] There is no such thing as Enlightenment

2012-06-13 Thread emptybill
What is Advaita? This thirty page pamphlet explains why enlightenment is not a permanent experience of a particular state of consciousness, why it is not a thought-free mind, and why karma does not have to be exhausted for liberation. It debunks many of the major misunderstandings about

[FairfieldLife] Re: How the Universe Got Populated

2012-06-08 Thread emptybill
You probably meant the nephilim (the fallen) rather than the elohim (deity/deities). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim Like the Hari Krishna accounts from the Sri Bhagavad and Vishnu Puranas, quoted by Jason in his reply, these are mythologized stories

[FairfieldLife] New Lucid Dreaming Technology

2012-05-12 Thread emptybill
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1047510073/remee-the-rem-enhancing-l\ ucid-dreaming-mask

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tribal and Warrior Christians

2012-05-08 Thread emptybill
Ken Wilber's evolutionary psychologism finally meets Tim Freke's gnosticism and culminates in another one of those historically- triumphalist Christian theologies. H ... Ain't it great to just look from our high plateau down onto the poor little ant-like people below as they writhe around in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy booed in Waco for pointing out Bible error

2012-05-03 Thread emptybill
More of Alain Danielou's conjectural pseudo-scholarship. Typical Vag rant. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On May 3, 2012, at 10:11 AM, turquoiseb wrote: While amusing, from my POV the Waco Wackos have nothing on the people around here who have been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy booed in Waco for pointing out Bible error

2012-05-03 Thread emptybill
The fool of irrelevance whores for attention and get fly-swatted again. Amusing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: snip While amusing, from my POV the Waco Wackos have nothing on the people

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is scripture really scripture?

2012-05-03 Thread emptybill
I was at the Fiuggi 2000 course and we did not sign or pledge anything. Learning the param-para puja and bBecoming a TM teacher was itself considered a pledge. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: I was made a TM initiator by Maharishi on my birthday in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahamudra and Dzogchen: Thought-Free Wakefulness

2012-05-02 Thread emptybill
So now we should call you PatrulVag. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On May 1, 2012, at 2:02 PM, emptybill wrote: I know who he is - I've have his book. I found it's mode of presentation confusing in explanation - especially for people without a teacher

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahamudra and Dzogchen: Thought-Free Wakefulness

2012-05-01 Thread emptybill
he was a mere novice compared to you. Oh ... but that can't be 'cause your his tulku. Guess you forgot. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On May 1, 2012, at 1:26 AM, emptybill wrote: The presence or the absence of thinking is incidental to vidya/rigpa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahamudra and Dzogchen: Thought-Free Wakefulness

2012-04-30 Thread emptybill
. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Apr 30, 2012, at 12:46 AM, emptybill wrote: Bullshit. He uses the phrases interchangeably both in the article and in the book. It is confusing for many people and reinforces the view that Buddhist yoga and meditation is cultivation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahamudra and Dzogchen: Thought-Free Wakefulness

2012-04-30 Thread emptybill
our profound fortune. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Apr 30, 2012, at 11:20 AM, emptybill wrote: Patrul Rimpoche, in his commentary on Tsig Sum Nedek, emphasizes that bliss, clarity and non-thought are just temporary states and must be disrupted

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahamudra and Dzogchen: Thought-Free Wakefulness

2012-04-29 Thread emptybill
Chokyi Nyima Rinpoche (CNR) – CNR : Thought is samsara. Being free of thought is liberation. Emptybill: If being thought free is liberation then even the beings absorbed in prakriti (prakriti-laya) or those beings absorbed in unconscious cessation (asamjña-nirodha) would be liberated. CNR

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahamudra and Dzogchen: Thought-Free Wakefulness

2012-04-29 Thread emptybill
vajradhatu@... wrote: On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:36 PM, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: Chokyi Nyima Rinpoche (CNR) †CNR : Thought is samsara. Being free of thought is liberation. Emptybill: If being thought free is liberation then even the beings absorbed in prakriti (prakriti-laya

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mahamudra and Dzogchen: Thought-Free Wakefulness

2012-04-28 Thread emptybill
There is nothing to know here except that Vag will use anyone, including a close-fisted, debauchee guru, to malign MMY. That Vag is hypocritical is simply to be taken for granted. Vag's real guru, who he swathes with devotion, is Himself. I bow to Vag - who bows to himself even though he doesn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: statement of Swami Satyeswarananda Giri on Spirituality

2012-04-19 Thread emptybill
He is a hate-filled rakshasa whose adhikara is to delude Westerners. Rather than possessed-of-the-self, he is merely self-possessed. For a bio, realize that he is one of those demon souls who poured in to bhu-loka for the Vetala dance at the suck-it-all-up hoe-down. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robert Forman: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 04/15/2012

2012-04-18 Thread emptybill
Vag - 04/18/2012 Spare Rigpa - The pure consciousness event in his TM-style meditation seems to have spurred Foreman's research into this topic. Of course, he must be only wishing it would happen to him, since we know from Master Vag, that transcendence of the mind (taratita/tataa-ati-taa)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robert Forman: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 04/15/2012

2012-04-15 Thread emptybill
People may not realize that Dr. Foreman has gathered and edited significant collections of essays from various new scholars (personal practitioners of meditation) who then extensively discuss yoga/dhyana/tantra from both scholastic and practice viewpoints. Here is one of his first collections:

[FairfieldLife] Re: JESUS IS LORD!

2012-04-14 Thread emptybill
Thank you – oh swami paramahansa yogananda parlez-vous. Yesu (and Him crucified) was indeed a spirit-descender (avatara). However he was a descent of the Hebrew Daimon yhvh - who was seized by his own genocidal karma after slaughtering all the men, women, children and babies of Canaan's 60+

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-dual meditation!

2012-04-14 Thread emptybill
Non-duality, by definition, means without two'. According to Shankara, in the Upanishads it means Without An Other. It is the opposite of individuality ... i.e. from Latin individuum - meaning an atomic, indivisible particle. So who here asserts such indivisibly? In other words, who claims

[FairfieldLife] Re: Immigration Tension

2012-03-20 Thread emptybill
Such BS. After the normal reactive oppession, Dar-as-Salam will render it all mute. Better learn some Salat, blanko now or kiss your Caucasian arse goodbye. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Given that the thorny subject of immigration has come up here,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Chopra - Science vs Spiritualism

2012-03-13 Thread emptybill
Uh ... sorry to break it to you this way but no empirical scientist has yet proven the existence of the universe. Rhetorical tautalogies aside, such explanations depend upon some factor of reference outside of themselves. Experience seems to appear to subjects, both individually and

[FairfieldLife] Re: patanjali question

2012-02-28 Thread emptybill
You might help yourself more by using a wider interpretive net for this kind of question. There are a lot of assumptions in your post. For a case in point – raja yoga was a title created to distinguish ashtanga-yoga from hatha-yoga, and only arose in the late classical period due to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Brahman Consciousness'

2012-02-19 Thread emptybill
According to MMY, to perceive the finest relative is to directly perceive Hiranyagarbha, who is the source of all manifest creation and to then recognize that this very creation is nothing but the sheer irradiance of that One. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius

[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-meditation

2012-02-19 Thread emptybill
You must have never done TM. This is an idiots definition. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: Or, I guess it all depends on how you can define 'meditation'. According to MMY, meditation is based on thinking. Meditation means simply 'to think

[FairfieldLife] Re: Astral Residence Courses

2012-02-16 Thread emptybill
Willy, Vaj is correct. Dzogchen direct introduction is a unique method/non-method. TM instruction and checking is similar to the pointing out methods found in Mahamudra upadesha. TM shows directly how the natural mind (prakriti manas) functions and uses that natural effortless of the senses and

[FairfieldLife] Dreams beyond meditation or non-meditation

2012-02-15 Thread emptybill
Neither in Shankara's Advaita nor in Dzogchen is there some kind of pure mind ... whether such a value resides within us, extends beyond us or conjoins to us in some mysterious or primordial way. What we call our mind is already a constriction of our fundamental intelligence and of what we are.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trend Analysis For Dummies

2012-02-07 Thread emptybill
Ann, Could this be the meaning of never going beyond the personal? Hmmm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: Curtis, you posted to me: You may not be aware of the amount of time required to generate the volume of writing I shared with Robin on and off FFL.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trend Analysis For Dummies

2012-02-06 Thread emptybill
This attributes an element of mystery to a behavioral quality that is actually quite plain. Why waste time searching for something hidden? Judy argues to demonstrate argumentative dominati0n. Premises and conclusions are just a means to arrive at further argumentation ... this is her goal-less

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trend Analysis For Dummies

2012-02-02 Thread emptybill
Ann, For all his apparent sincerity, irony and self-effacing humor here on FFL, in the end Robin never went beyond the personal. It is this contagion in his view with an embedded solipsism (rather than his objective metaphysical or philosophic positions) which rendered his assessments curious

[FairfieldLife] Re: Motivation

2012-01-23 Thread emptybill
post. Other topics -- 1 That would be to seekliberation on MMY's view of national karma. I also made one post to emptybill challenging something he'd said about Robin's take on demons not having anything to do with MMY's teaching. Don't know how Barry categorized that post. Two

[FairfieldLife] Re: Motivation

2012-01-23 Thread emptybill
Sorry Judy but although you might know classical artwork you wouldn't know what a demon actually looks like ... haven't you seen my profile picture? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: Yeah, that's why Robin chose her to be his champion to defend him from

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Robin Struck People-And Lied About It: An Open Letter to Barry Wright

2012-01-22 Thread emptybill
FWIW Claims of demonic possession are the province of Semitic theologies, including modern-day tent revivalists. Such claims are the cultural leftovers from a Zoroastrian based worldview and in the Western world have not survived either the scientific age or the psychotherapeutic model. Thus the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wow

2012-01-20 Thread emptybill
... only I dwell with it in Sahaj style, not just performing some japa. Don't you still do yours? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:18 PM, emptybill wrote: The reality is that I practice TM/TM-Sidhi So you actually still do your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wow

2012-01-19 Thread emptybill
. This is all part of the casualty-range from converts who try to fill old wine skins with new wine ... to use an over-worn bibul analogy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: So, looking back, what is your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wow

2012-01-19 Thread emptybill
any inhibitions about responding to criticism. #295520 – Robin sez: Thanks for letting everyone at FFL know what I am up to here, emptybill. You seem like a most interesting person. Still, though, I can't reconcile the Crucifixion with the Buddha nature. Or pure consciousness with Fallen Nature

[FairfieldLife] Re: What A Week

2012-01-18 Thread emptybill
with other posters and is not predicated upon any agreement or disagreement about our differing viewpoints or conclusions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nemodomi nemodomi@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: How about something more than just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wow

2012-01-18 Thread emptybill
This sounds more secret than a secret handshake. What exactly is the female perspective/experience that distinguishes it from a human one? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Awoelflebater, Wow sounds about right then. Â You could be in the right place. Â

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wow

2012-01-18 Thread emptybill
So, looking back, what is your judgement of RWC's previous claims to enlightenment and his current conversion to Catholicism? Dare you say? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: Hi Buck, Yes, I was initiated in 1970 by my sister who attended TT in Majorca

[FairfieldLife] Re: US Is Fully Prepared

2012-01-18 Thread emptybill
John, You mean a line in water ... which disappears even as it is drawn. Barry Hussein is probably not prepared to do too much. However, the Joint Chiefs must expect such trouble and must therefore plan to execute some type of counter-action. So will it help the re-election of the One? ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: What A Week

2012-01-17 Thread emptybill
How about something more than just another one of your unsubstantiated claims? Where did you learn TM/TMSP? What were the dates and places of initiation? Who were your TM/TMSP course teachers? You should take these questions seriously. You are perilously close to being branded on FFL as a

[FairfieldLife] Snowboarding Dravidians on the Atlantean Peaks

2012-01-15 Thread emptybill
the true truth. That is, with the appropriate fee in hand for such august and exalted teachings. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus richard@... wrote: Kaka is Sanskrit for crow or crow language... emptybill An obvious mis-spelling. In Sanskrit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Snowboarding crow

2012-01-14 Thread emptybill
An obvious mis-spelling. It is actually kraka shaita ... pronounced krah-kuh shite and is a phonemic caricature of an old, dravidian latrine song from the era when the dravidian chariots over-ran Europe and ruled the known world. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Fourth and Final Open Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2012-01-10 Thread emptybill
But did Jesus (and Him crucified) go right into you? Which was it ... the blood-stained body or the resurrected re-appearance? Are you cheating your way into heaven or paying lash by lash? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: Thank you for this, feste37. Your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic War and the Pizza Effect

2011-12-30 Thread emptybill
Counterviews not considered, as usual. Vaj just talks the usual stuff. http://www.sandeepweb.com/2011/08/09/lies-damned-lies-and-meera-nanda/ http://www.sandeepweb.com/2011/08/09/lies-damned-lies-and-meera-nanda/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Dec 30,

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-23 Thread emptybill
, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Perhaps you should just check your own messages since I was in a discussion with Robin. Remember him? You did bring up his name. However, I have a better idea. I'll start another thread directly with Robin. Then Steve, you and Bari2 can comment

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-22 Thread emptybill
This is quite funny. Nice irony applied to Vag who who makes himself so ponderous. This is one place where Vag and RC/MZ don't mirror but reverse. But I still contend this must be Vag's original envelopment in this life ... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@... wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-22 Thread emptybill
How about this challenge. You, Barry and Emily stop highjacking this thread and make one of your own. Barry can then promote his there is no truth but opinion and feel accomplished. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-22 Thread emptybill
Perhaps you should just check your own messages since I was in a discussion with Robin. Remember him? You did bring up his name. However, I have a better idea. I'll start another thread directly with Robin. Then Steve, you and Bari2 can comment or interject if you see fit but none of you will

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tawakkal Mastan

2011-12-21 Thread emptybill
This would be a form of heresy for most Muslims. It would be seen as falsely transferring (shirk) the attributes of Allah onto the Prophet Muhammad and would be seen as making the same mistake attributed to Christianity … confusing the nature of the absolute Godhead will a relative, limited

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-20 Thread emptybill
Nice laudation of Robin. However, you overlook his proclivity to construct his replies so that he only addresses his own notions. That is, if he answers at all. This is the definition of a monologue. In this way, Robin has become the reverse mirror-image of Vag the Defier … an amusing

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-20 Thread emptybill
Well she was a Jewish girl who's beauty was in her intelligence. That's all I dare say. Oh, you must mean Simone Weil ... Every sin is an attempt to fly from emptiness. No wonder you ended up Buddhist. Now I know that date of you initiation: 1941. The world is the closed door. It is a barrier.

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-20 Thread emptybill
believed that all these and other traditions contained elements of genuine revelation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simone_Weil No comment re: Vaj's teacher, but this woman was quite extraordinary. From: emptybill emptybill@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-19 Thread emptybill
You forgot to mention the real crux of the questions to Vag: 1. The place and time of his initiation into the basic technique. 2. The place and time of his initiation into any advanced techniques. Even if you repudiate the teachings, as Robin has done: 3. The place and time of TTC and of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The vedic gods

2011-12-19 Thread emptybill
Sorry but you need to go back and look at the Śvetāśvatara Upanishad. You assertions do not agree with these ancient deity-bhakti teachings. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@... wrote: The 'vedic gods' have been stated to be the origin of advaita vedanta by some

[FairfieldLife] Re: The vedic gods

2011-12-19 Thread emptybill
In Yahoo English that's Svetashvatara Upanishad. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: Sorry but you need to go back and look at the Śvetāśvatara Upanishad. You assertions do not agree with these ancient deity-bhakti teachings. --- In FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-19 Thread emptybill
Heh ... where's the 19th tee? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: You forgot to mention the real crux of the questions to Vag: 1. The place and time of his initiation

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-18 Thread emptybill
will look it up too. It fits you quite well and you should indeed be known for what you really are. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: Sent from my iPad On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:24 PM, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: So now you are Vag, the critiquer of Christian

[FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-17 Thread emptybill
So now you are Vag, the critiquer of Christian contemplation – knower of what's authentic and what is not. How illuminating of you. So where did you arrive at direct experience of Christian contemplation? Have you submitted yourself to the teachings of a Catholic or Orthodox

[FairfieldLife] Zen and 'Spirituality'

2011-12-15 Thread emptybill
'Is Zen a religion? It is not a religion in the sense that the term is popularly understood; for Zen has no God to worship, no ceremonial rites to observe, no future abode to which the dead are destined, and, last of all, Zen has no soul whose welfare is to be looked after by somebody else and

[FairfieldLife] This is the End of It All (Re: Giant plumes of methane bubbling to surface)

2011-12-15 Thread emptybill
OMG! We're all going to die! Who knew? Better to consciously exit to some heaven world until it all passes away. Quick! You first! Show us the final way just like that ol' Rajah Yama and Rajni Yami. It's all bliss anyway ... isn't it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@...

[FairfieldLife] Re: OT: Two tough questions

2011-12-13 Thread emptybill
Heh, thanks for the clarification. He is well known to historians for being vegetarian. We have silly notions about that. Just more cultural illusions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Emptybill

[FairfieldLife] Re: OT: Two tough questions

2011-12-12 Thread emptybill
He had more than a shakti yoga chart aspect. He had shakti herself. Don't bother confining her within some Christian morality myth. She doesn't necessarily follow ordinary human moral considerations but rather plays both side of the game against each other at the same time that she also

[FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Bob makes it up...again

2011-12-10 Thread emptybill
the radiological scientist that everyone knows you to be. … --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Dec 9, 2011, at 8:10 PM, emptybill wrote: Empty: Those stages of subtly are common stages discussed in Tantric Deity yoga and in Kashmiri

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