[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-24 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, amarnath anatol_zinc@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-24 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi once said that he could enlighten someone in minutes, but it would take 4 strong men to hold the person down as they transform, and would be too much for the person. Which ties in what Bob has

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-24 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-24 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-23 Thread johnlasher20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The trouble with convenience processed foods is they all too often have a lot of the nutrients taken out of them, right? Well that's what you seem to be saying about convenience meditation, isn't it, that the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-23 Thread amarnath
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: The trouble with convenience processed foods is they all too often have a lot of the nutrients taken out of them, right? Well that's

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: The trouble with convenience processed foods is they all too often have a lot of the nutrients taken out of them, right? Well that's

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, amarnath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you notice, MMY 20 steps of ayurveda which includes TM does not iclude Love, Bhakti, Bhajans and SEVA( selfeless service ) all of which are the core of Amma's teachings by example of Her life. The TM program

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-23 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, amarnath anatol_zinc@ wrote: If you notice, MMY 20 steps of ayurveda which includes TM does not iclude Love, Bhakti, Bhajans and SEVA( selfeless service ) all of which are the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-23 Thread amarnath
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the element which is missing in many is the intention to surrender to the highest manifest as well as transcendent. For most westerners TM is more a self improvement than a devotion. For Indians the mantras

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-23 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: The trouble with convenience processed foods is they all too often have a lot of the nutrients taken out of them, right? Well that's

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, amarnath anatol_zinc@ wrote: If you notice, MMY 20 steps of ayurveda which includes TM does not

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-23 Thread nablus108
Maharishi once said that he could enlighten someone in minutes, but it would take 4 strong men to hold the person down as they transform, and would be too much for the person. Which ties in what Bob has been saying about Maharishi rieghning in the fast progress of evolution for

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx sinhlnx@ wrote: ---(discussion below - TM and other techniques). Vaj, I've concluded that you were never initiated into TM, otherwise, you wouldn't be so misguided on

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip And yet another comment from Dana: I also find the great

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How sad that some people consider him [Dana] an expert in this regard. He doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. And obviously you don't either, if you think what you quoted from him in these last few posts is

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx sinhlnx@ wrote: ---(discussion below - TM and other techniques). Vaj, I've concluded that you were

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/21/06 4:16:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We say, This is a picture of Guru Dev, Maharishi's Master, from whom we have this knowledge... These are not the words I

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Paul Mason wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I've never heard anything other than that. I never heard that Guru Dev himself gave MMY the technique.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 8:40 PM, Vaj wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 7:29 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Paul Mason wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 7/21/06 4:16:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, babajii_99@ writes: We say, This is a picture of Guru Dev, Maharishi's Master, from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Vaj
On Jul 21, 2006, at 10:48 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 8:40 PM, Vaj wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 7:29 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 3:30 PM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Vaj
On Jul 21, 2006, at 10:49 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 8:40 PM, Vaj wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 7:29 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 3:30 PM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Vaj
On Jul 21, 2006, at 11:50 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 9:11 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 7:29 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Vaj
On Jul 22, 2006, at 12:02 AM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Very interesting comment on Mahesh's lack of credibility that   validates much of what I've shared: How do educated middle and upper middle class Indians view MMY and the TMO?

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: How sad that some people consider him [Dana] an expert in this regard. He doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. And obviously you don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd marwincornyarmand@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 7/21/06 4:16:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Vaj
On Jul 22, 2006, at 2:53 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How sad that some people consider him [Dana] an "expert" in this regard.  He doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. And obviously you don't either, if you think what

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx sinhlnx@ wrote: ---(discussion

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Vaj
On Jul 22, 2006, at 4:13 AM, Ingegerd wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Paul Mason wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@  wrote: I've never heard anything other than that.  I never heard that Guru

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Vaj
On Jul 22, 2006, at 9:03 AM, authfriend wrote:We can even leave "only" out of the picture here in terms of what's at issue and stipulate that it's possible there *is* some other technique that is as effortless as TM.  But if so, it isn't the techniques Dana is talking about. Kind of a moot point

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 11:50 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip Dana's probably the leading authority on the Dandis in the west that I know of. But on the basis of

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 22, 2006, at 12:02 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip Very interesting comment on Mahesh's lack of credibility that validates much of what I've shared:

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Paul Mason
Right from the very early times, MMY most definitely claimed that the meditation he teaches (TM) was taught to him by Guru Dev. A look at page 244 of 'Thirty Years Around the World' (a TMO publication by Maharishi Vedic University, 1986) confirms this. Allegedly on 29th April 1959 Maharishi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Vaj
On Jul 22, 2006, at 9:27 AM, Paul Mason wrote:Right from the very early times, MMY most definitely claimed that the  meditation he teaches (TM) was taught to him by Guru Dev. A look at  page 244 of 'Thirty Years Around the World' (a TMO publication by  Maharishi Vedic University, 1986) confirms

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sad that he (and you) would take this example as validating the notion that MMY isn't credible. Seriously, can you explain to me how you find the person who not long ago declared Sat Yuga to have dawned on the planet

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd marwincornyarmand@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 22, 2006, at 2:53 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: How sad that some people consider him [Dana] an expert in this regard. He doesn't have a clue what he's

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 22, 2006, at 9:03 AM, authfriend wrote: We can even leave only out of the picture here in terms of what's at issue and stipulate that it's possible there *is* some other technique that is as effortless as TM.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right from the very early times, MMY most definitely claimed that the meditation he teaches (TM) was taught to him by Guru Dev. A look at page 244 of 'Thirty Years Around the World' (a TMO publication by Maharishi

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Paul Mason
Oh dear, you are so very attached to your beliefs, and nothing MMY actually said makes any difference huh? Okay, I was just offering a quote from the man himself, but what would he know? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Sad that he (and you) would take this example as validating the notion that MMY isn't credible. Seriously, can you explain to me how you find the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh dear, you are so very attached to your beliefs, and nothing MMY actually said makes any difference huh? Okay, I was just offering a quote from the man himself, but what would he know? Triple non sequitur.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx sinhlnx@ wrote: ---(discussion

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 8:40 PM, Vaj wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 7:29 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 10:48 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 8:40 PM, Vaj wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 7:29 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 22, 2006, at 9:03 AM, authfriend wrote: We can even leave only out of the picture here in terms of what's at issue and stipulate that it's possible there *is* some other technique that is as effortless as TM.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Oh dear, you are so very attached to your beliefs, and nothing MMY actually said makes any difference huh? Okay, I was just offering a

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh dear, you are so very attached to your beliefs, and nothing MMY actually said makes any difference huh? Okay, I was just offering a quote from the man himself, but what would he know? She is The Knower - we are

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Oh dear, you are so very attached to your beliefs, and nothing MMY actually said makes any difference huh? Okay, I was just offering a

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 22, 2006, at 9:27 AM, Paul Mason wrote: Right from the very early times, MMY most definitely claimed that the meditation he teaches (TM) was taught to him by Guru Dev. A look at page 244 of 'Thirty Years Around

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd marwincornyarmand@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Oh dear, you are so very attached to your beliefs, and nothing

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd marwincornyarmand@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You believe what you want to believe because you want to believe it, I believe what I believe on the basis of reason and logic. Can I ask a question? Is there anyone on this forum that you don't believe your first

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd marwincornyarmand@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd marwincornyarmand@

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: You believe what you want to believe because you want to believe it, I believe what I believe on the basis of reason and logic. Can I ask a

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I, for one, have gotten the impres- sion that you believe this about pretty much everyone here but yourself. With regard to beliefs in general,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Paul Mason
It appears that the meditation method taught by Guru Dev ( other other 'sadgurus') later morphed to become the TM technique as taught by the various organisations of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Guru Dev explains:- 'You must get to know the mantra of your Ishta, and the method of meditation (dhyan)

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip And

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd marwincornyarmand@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears that the meditation method taught by Guru Dev ( other other 'sadgurus') later morphed to become the TM technique as taught by the various organisations of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Guru Dev explains:-

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears that the meditation method taught by Guru Dev ( other other 'sadgurus') later morphed to become the TM technique as taught by the various organisations of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Guru Dev explains:-

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: It appears that the meditation method taught by Guru Dev ( other other 'sadgurus') later morphed to become the TM technique as taught by

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I, for one, have gotten the impres- sion that you believe this about pretty much

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I, for

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I, for one, have gotten the impres- sion that you believe this about pretty much

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And along the way, attempted to refine what he taught to the quintessence of his teacher's teachings, to paraphrase what he has said elsewhere. TM is MMYs technique, distilled from what he was taught by Gurudev.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread mrsatva
Hi Paul, I am still sure that MMY is enlightened (to witch degree so ever) and tries his best for his peoples. But as lots of (former) TMers I wonder why none of his students/followers got enlightened and the majority stopped practising because they didn't get anything good from it ? I have two

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Paul, I am still sure that MMY is enlightened (to witch degree so ever) and tries his best for his peoples. But as lots of (former) TMers I wonder why none of his students/followers got enlightened Er, the only

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread Paul Mason
The trouble with convenience processed foods is they all too often have a lot of the nutrients taken out of them, right? Well that's what you seem to be saying about convenience meditation, isn't it, that the ingredient that one needs for full health is not there? You might well be on to

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread mrsatva
The trouble with convenience processed foods is they all too often have a lot of the nutrients taken out of them, right? Well that's what you seem to be saying about convenience meditation, isn't it, that the ingredient that one needs for full health is not there? In addition we have

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The trouble with convenience processed foods is they all too often have a lot of the nutrients taken out of them, right? Well that's what you seem to be saying about convenience meditation, isn't it, that the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread mrsatva
I am still sure that MMY is enlightened (to witch degree so ever) and tries his best for his peoples. But as lots of (former) TMers I wonder why none of his students/followers got enlightened Er, the only published research on enlightened people is rsearch on TMers One of this

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still sure that MMY is enlightened (to witch degree so ever) and tries his best for his peoples. But as lots of (former) TMers I wonder why none of his students/followers got enlightened Er, the only

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: But lest we forget, The Beatles had already proven themselves extremely good and powerful allies to MMY. Remember how in September/October 1967

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 20, 2006, at 6:20 PM, Robert Gimbel wrote: In a message dated 7/20/06 9:51:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, sparaig@ writes: to see the master walking on the petals who lived in a million dollar stecketo

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 20, 2006, at 6:20 PM, Robert Gimbel wrote: In a message dated 7/20/06 9:51:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, sparaig@ writes: to see the master walking on the petals who lived in a million dollar stecketo

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, these guy's, these musicians, are really drawing a lot of media attention from all over the world...Perhaps, this will allow me to spread Guru Dev's Knowledge, must faster; that would be a good ting. I know

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread Vaj
On Jul 21, 2006, at 3:00 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Wow", these guy's, these musicians, are really drawing a lot of  media attention from all over the world...Perhaps, this will allow me to spread Guru Dev's Knowledge,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread Vaj
On Jul 21, 2006, at 2:29 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 20, 2006, at 6:20 PM, Robert Gimbel wrote: In a message dated 7/20/06 9:51:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time,sparaig@ writes:to see  the master walking on the petals who lived in a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/20/06 5:22:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 16,000 square feet is a VERY large house...Yeah, so, I'm not sure, I get what you're saying?Is it like: "What's love got to do with it?"or something like 'what's a big house on the Ganges, got

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/20/06 8:38:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So because MMY wasn't a good enough mind reader, you think this was definite sign of I thought M handled that confrontation withthe Beatles and John Lennon appropriately. The question put to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/20/06 9:06:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: think the idea expressed in Lennon's song was, 'wow this guy is really attached to money, houses and "things".'--how "holy" can he be? Not very. M's Ashram wasn't the only one in Rishikesh,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: Wow, these guy's, these musicians, are really drawing a lot of media attention from all over the world...Perhaps, this will allow me to

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It's really interesting because in yogic-speak there are two words which are used to describe two diametrically opposed modes of being: the yogi and the bhogi. The bhogi, the enjoyer of the senses and the material is

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: Wow, these guy's, these musicians, are really drawing a lot of media attention from all over the world...Perhaps, this will allow me to

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 3:00 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: Wow, these guy's, these musicians, are really drawing a lot of media attention from all over

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 2:29 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jul 20, 2006, at 6:20 PM, Robert Gimbel wrote: In a message dated 7/20/06 9:51:13 A.M. Central

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/20/06 8:38:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So because MMY wasn't a good enough mind reader, you think this was definite sign of I thought M handled that confrontation

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: Wow, these guy's, these musicians, are really drawing a lot of

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: [Barry wrote:] Here's a project for you aspiring academics. Go back in TM history and see when Maharishi's language changed from doing his teacher's work

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread Vaj
On Jul 21, 2006, at 10:35 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 3:00 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" babajii_99@ wrote: "Wow", these guy's, these musicians, are really drawing a

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread Ingegerd
MMY used the words My Technique, My Vedic Science - My - My - My - long before that. Maybe TM is MMY techniques and has nothing to do with Guru Devs teaching - and that MMY has mislead all TM-Teachers and all meditators about that fact. That he has used Guru Dev as an Alibi for good and bad?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread Vaj
On Jul 21, 2006, at 10:38 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 2:29 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:On Jul 20, 2006, at 6:20 PM, Robert Gimbel wrote: In a message dated

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread gimari03
Ingegerd, IMHO, you are excatly on the money with that remark! Oh no, MMY is on the money! We're just onto his scam. Gina --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY used the words My Technique, My Vedic Science - My - My - My - long before that. Maybe TM is

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The point is, there's a yogi and there's a bhogi. Lennon pegged Mahesh right on. MMB. It is your attachment to material things and not Maharishi's that makes you think and say such things. You are the materialist

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip He just likes to see his name in lights Yes, he does... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread Vaj
On Jul 21, 2006, at 11:04 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip  The point is, there's a yogi and there's a bhogi. Lennon pegged   Mahesh right on. MMB. It is your attachment to material things and not Maharishi's that  makes you think

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Was John Lennon Right About Maharishi?'

2006-07-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: [Barry wrote:] Here's a project for you aspiring academics. Go back in TM history

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