[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A whole group of us were in that boat. During our first group flying in the Dome at the end of our flying block, we all kicked back and watched everyone else, rather than leave when the time was up. Everyone ended up

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-17 Thread nablus108
That being said the woman saint that Maharishi brought with him to my TTC glowed like a light bulb. A sight I will never forget and have not seen since. Where was that? MMY asked Matananda Mai to go to Europe with him once, but she declined. If you are referring to Ananda

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: A whole group of us were in that boat. During our first group flying in the Dome at the end of our flying block, we all kicked back and watched

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That being said the woman saint that Maharishi brought with him to my TTC glowed like a light bulb. A sight I will never forget and have not seen since. Where was that? MMY asked Matananda Mai

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-17 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: That being said the woman saint that Maharishi brought with him to my TTC glowed like a light bulb. A sight I will never forget and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-17 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone? on 7/17/06 1:17 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That being said the woman saint that Maharishi brought with him to my TTC glowed like a light bulb. A sight I will never forget and have not seen since

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: A whole group of us were in that boat. During our first group flying in the Dome at the end of our flying block, we all kicked back and watched

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: That being said the woman saint that Maharishi brought with him to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thing is, I know several of the researchers. They're all true believers, but when they're wearing the hat of a researcher, they're a lot more skeptical than you seem to believe. I defer to your experience. I suspect

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-17 Thread off_world_beings
I suspect that some of the TM-related research is strong, but I also suspect that some of it is laughably weak. And your scientific rationale for this fundamentalist belief is??? ..answer: fundamentalist prejudice...just like the Bush and the fundie christians when it comes to global

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect that some of the TM-related research is strong, but I also suspect that some of it is laughably weak. And your scientific rationale for this fundamentalist belief is??? ..answer: fundamentalist

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
Good find. Did you check out the videos? http://www.anandamayi.org/mmedia/avi/8d.htm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-17 Thread Peter
When SSRS was about 12 years old MMY brought him to see Anandamayi Ma. SSRS says that she kept on refering to him in the female tense and he didn't know why. --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good find. Did you check out the videos? http://www.anandamayi.org/mmedia/avi/8d.htm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-17 Thread new . morning
1968? Sounds early. There is more to the story, n'est pas?? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When SSRS was about 12 years old MMY brought him to see Anandamayi Ma. SSRS says that she kept on refering to him in the female tense and he didn't know why.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-17 Thread curtisdeltablues
Peter, If the stories on her Website are accurate, her confusion doesn't surprise me. I found her descent into madness chronicled on her site completely riveting. Of course I understand that others may see the divine hand at work instead of a mental illness. Funny to think how she would have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Thing is, I know several of the researchers. They're all true believers, but when they're wearing the hat of a researcher, they're a lot more

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, If the stories on her Website are accurate, her confusion doesn't surprise me. I found her descent into madness chronicled on her site completely riveting. How sad. Of course I understand that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ OK. Not exactly on point, but tangents are good. While not proceletizing for any method, I have not seen such cause problems in darshan around SSRS.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread new . morning
Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ OK. Not exactly on point, but tangents are good. While not proceletizing for any method, I have not seen such

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ OK. Not exactly on point, but tangents

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen them, except Kunyamari, and Bob Brigante is absolutely right. I have also seen Tatwala Baba, Mustem Baba, Sripad Baba and quite a few other Yogis, Babas and Gurus; no one even comes close to the light which

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: I've seen them, except Kunyamari, and Bob Brigante is absolutely right. I have also seen Tatwala Baba, Mustem Baba, Sripad Baba and quite a few

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: I've seen them, except Kunyamari, and Bob Brigante is absolutely right. I have also seen Tatwala Baba, Mustem Baba, Sripad Baba and quite a few

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you like stories, and believe anything (except with 'Maharishi' in the sentence), there was a person who could see people's auras, and went to see Maharishi speak at the Albert Hall in London, way back

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My personal yardstick for enlightenment is based on what it is like to meditate in the same room with the person. For me (which is subjective, of course, and not any kind of universal measure), if you are *able* to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When Maharishi, constantly, for hours on end dissapears in a golden light right in front of my eyes, it's not a cheap flash. Not in my book anyway. When you see the same with a rock, then know your teaching / teacher

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: When Maharishi, constantly, for hours on end dissapears in a golden light right in front of my eyes, it's not a cheap flash. Not in my book

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: Either that, or you've run into a 'rock star.' From: Uncle Tantra Subject: Re: Two simple questions for the bhakti supporters Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: 2003-03-16 13:29:48 PST I studied with a guy who could turn huge rooms in convention centers gold, to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen them, except Kunyamari, and Bob Brigante is absolutely right. I have also seen Tatwala Baba, Mustem Baba, Sripad Baba and quite a few other Yogis, Babas and Gurus; no one even comes close to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread Robert Gimbel
Just curious: Where did you see someone levitate, or become invisible; And why do you think that this person could do these siddhis; when the rest of us, who are practicing only experience glimpses of the actual siddhi... What was the 'atmosphere' like in the area, where someone is actually

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious: Where did you see someone levitate, or become invisible; And why do you think that this person could do these siddhis; when the rest of us, who are practicing only experience glimpses of the actual

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone? on 7/16/06 4:14 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious: Where did you see someone levitate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 7/16/06 4:14 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: Just curious: Where did you see

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: When Maharishi, constantly, for hours on end dissapears in a golden light right in front of my eyes, it's not a cheap flash. Not in my book

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 7/16/06 4:14 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: Just curious: Where did you see

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 7/16/06 4:14 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com ,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: I've seen them, except Kunyamari, and Bob Brigante is absolutely right. I have also seen Tatwala Baba, Mustem Baba, Sripad Baba

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread Peter
--- Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip That being said the woman saint that Maharishi brought with him to my TTC glowed like a light bulb. A sight I will never forget and have not seen since. Ananda Moyi Ma? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-16 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone? on 7/16/06 5:34 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:noozguru%40earthlink.net wrote: snip That being said the woman saint that Maharishi brought with him to my TTC glowed like

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-15 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ROFLMAO ! ! ! This study, conducted by pro-SSRS people states that Ravi Shankar's technique is quote: inferior to electroconvulsive therapy. It also was less effective than a pharmaceutical drug. No better than

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-15 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: ROFLMAO ! ! ! This study, conducted by pro-SSRS people states that Ravi Shankar's technique is quote: inferior to electroconvulsive

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-15 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ROFLMAO ! ! ! This study, conducted by pro-SSRS people states that Ravi Shankar's technique is quote: inferior to electroconvulsive therapy. It also was less effective than a pharmaceutical drug. No better than

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-15 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: ROFLMAO ! ! ! This study, conducted by pro-SSRS people states that Ravi Shankar's technique is quote: inferior to electroconvulsive

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-15 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bigsnip how did you like the results of the other studies? .) http://www.artofliving.org/apex/r-EEGPaper.pdf ELECTROPHYSIOLOGICAL EVALUATION OF SUDARSHAN KRIYA; Interesting. It is not published, so non-one in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-15 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: bigsnip how did you like the results of the other studies? .) The rest of the studies seem to be also unpublished. um check again.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-15 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: bigsnip how did you like the results of the other studies? .)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-15 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-15 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: ROFLMAO ! ! ! This study, conducted by pro-SSRS people

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-15 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Electro-Convulsive therapy anyone?

2006-07-15 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just meeting an enlightened soul (which is very similar to meeting one's own self diving deep in TM) causes this process of normalization/unstressing, and people who experience this may, in their confusion,