[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-23 Thread Tom
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak Did you go thru with the recertification process Rick? No. I was out of the TMO by that time. From what little I know it sounds insulting to ask people to do that who have initiated thousands

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-23 Thread Tom
Yes it was Shemp. The tell all websites indicate that it was, in the past at least, given as the sixth advanced technique. My feelings are mixed about those websites that tell all and am more than a little reticent to go into great detail. I had had 3 advanced techniques at that point and

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-17 Thread shempmcgurk
I missed out completely on this whole project, Tom. Was this a technique provided/sold under the auspices of the TMO? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My own experience was somewhat different probably due to not getting the 3 in 1 deal mentioned in an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-17 Thread Peter
I got my Bliss technique for free. I drove my girlfriend to his offices in Massachusetts so she could get her technique. I sat to wait (it was hours)and did my program. Apparently I was right next to the room were he was giving the Bliss technique and I heard the same technique being given out

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-16 Thread george_deforest
TurquoiseB wrote: First, George, thank you so much for expressing your opinion of Chopra so clearly and so compassionately. I didn't feel in your post a gram of the anger and hostility I've been talking about feeling in some other recent posts about him. well Barry, thank you for the

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-16 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [...] Another way of looking at it, George, is that Chopra *disagrees* with Maharishi's teaching. That does not imply that he never understood it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-16 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could be wrong of course, but I always felt Deepak's writing showed a lack of understanding of Maharishi's teaching. Another way of looking at it, George, is that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-16 Thread Kirk
Interestingly enough, Stu, having been around the spiritual teacher block a few times in the 30 years since I last saw Maharishi, I would describe *him* the same way you describe Chopra. He had a few introductory concepts down and he spent 50 years winging it and finding different ways of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-16 Thread Kirk
We should not forget that Maharishi spoke of 200% value of life. I, for one, will be interested in the progress of the big machines plumbing the depths of Maya, in parallel with my own subjective explorations of inner reality. We're pretty fortunate really at this time as humans. We are in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-16 Thread Angela Mailander
15, 2008 10:43:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ ... wrote: Couple points: That the material world is an illusion was understood in the popular mind

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-16 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] If I remember correctly, in his books Deepak was a proponent of positive thinking as well ... (M said if a poor man repeats over and over I am rich, I am rich, I am rich that does not make him a rich

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-16 Thread Tom
My own experience was somewhat different probably due to not getting the 3 in 1 deal mentioned in an earlier post. I received/purchased the bliss aka psycho-physiological technique during a summer assembly in DC. After opening and placing on a table a small pocket sized two sided picture

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-16 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:40 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak My own experience was somewhat different probably due

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-16 Thread Tom
Did you go thru with the recertification process Rick? From what little I know it sounds insulting to ask people to do that who have initiated thousands. Was it done as akin to a loyalty test? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deepak never became

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-16 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:07 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak Did you go thru with the recertification process Rick? No. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-16 Thread Angela Mailander
Looked like a shake-down to me. - Original Message From: Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:30:20 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-16 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:07 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-16 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem TMO mgmt had was that many teachers were going independent in order to avoid charging the new high fees for TM instruction. This created a situation where people initiated into TM by independents

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- Stu buttsplicer@ wrote: I could be wrong of course, but I always felt Deepak's writing showed a lack of understanding

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Classic example of Chopra's diasagreement with Maharishi is his description of the role of the mantra in TM found in the HIstory Channel's documentary on Maharishi: The mantra interferes with the thinking process.

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-16 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [...] Another way of looking at it, George, is that Chopra *disagrees* with

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-16 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: The problem TMO mgmt had was that many teachers were going independent in order to avoid charging the new high fees for TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-16 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: snip Classic example of Chopra's diasagreement with Maharishi is his description of the role of the mantra in TM found in the HIstory Channel's

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:49 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
First, George, thank you so much for expressing your opinion of Chopra so clearly and so compassionately. I didn't feel in your post a gram of the anger and hostility I've been talking about feeling in some other recent posts about him. Just one comment: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couple points: That the material world is an illusion was understood in the popular mind to mean the world is a mirage, i.e. not really there. Shankara made the term clear long before MMY MMY attributed his

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread Angela Mailander
Thanks for the clarification. I had read Shankara independently of MMY's teaching. - Original Message From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 2:48:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Behalf Of authfriend Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: Couple points: That the material world is an illusion was understood in the popular mind to mean the world is a mirage, i.e. not really there.

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread Stu
I could be wrong of course, but I always felt Deepak's writing showed a lack of understanding of Maharishi's teaching. Another way of looking at it, George, is that Chopra *disagrees* with Maharishi's teaching. That does not imply that he never understood it. I have been to a number

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could be wrong of course, but I always felt Deepak's writing showed a lack of understanding of Maharishi's teaching. Another way of looking at it, George, is that Chopra *disagrees* with Maharishi's teaching.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread Peter
--- Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could be wrong of course, but I always felt Deepak's writing showed a lack of understanding of Maharishi's teaching. Another way of looking at it, George, is that Chopra *disagrees* with Maharishi's teaching. That does not imply that he

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could be wrong of course, but I always felt Deepak's writing showed a lack of understanding of Maharishi's teaching. Another way of looking at it, George, is that

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread gandalfaragorn
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couple points: That the material world is an illusion was understood in the popular mind to mean the world is a mirage, i.e. not really there. Shankara made the term clear long before MMY by explaining that

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread Stu
Interestingly enough, Stu, having been around the spiritual teacher block a few times in the 30 years since I last saw Maharishi, I would describe *him* the same way you describe Chopra. He had a few introductory concepts down and he spent 50 years winging it and finding different ways

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Another way of looking at it, George, is that Chopra *disagrees* with Maharishi's teaching. That does not imply that he never understood it. I recall a lecture that Chopra gave where he turned apologetically to

[FairfieldLife] Re: making the rounds: another view of Deepak

2008-02-15 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: Couple points: That the material world is an illusion was understood in the popular mind to mean the world is a mirage, i.e. not really