From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of merudanda Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 5:45 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rick Archer encounters John Hagelin (live?)not to be missed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded <https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EdVikBJhGoE> &v=EdVikBJhGoE J.H. who declares that the path to enlightenment requires living out life... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgr0qujWMeg here the description of this fundamental discussion : The Three Simultaneously True Levels of Nondual Reality; Don't Mistake Understanding for Realization, Don't Mistake Realization for Liberation, Igor Kufayev, and John Hagelin, Ph.D., moderated by Rick Archer (how was it Rick?) It was great. Full video will be up in a couple of months, after Fora.tv's exclusive rights expire. 11:45am - 12:30pm Sausalito room The Three Simultaneously True Levels of Nondual Reality Most humans view their situation in a conventional, non-mystical way, treating whatever happens as concretely real, and to be judged as "good" and "bad," etc. By contrast, a growing number of non-dual teachers and students espouse the viewpoint that whatever happens is "the perfect manifestation of Divine Will," or that "nothing is really happening or ever happened." Yet our situation is not so one-dimensional as these positions would hold, and an expansive, truly liberated way of talking about Reality will involve more dimensions. A three-fold model of nondual Reality will be discussed which many have found quite helpful in accounting for all levels of our experience. Don't Mistake Understanding for Realization, Don't Mistake Realization for Liberation Reports of spiritual awakenings, once rare, have become commonplace. Modern seekers often find an intuitive understanding of the ultimate non-dual reality or the illusory nature of the world to be so liberating that they conclude they have reached the goal, and that seeking should be renounced. Ancient traditions caution that such an understanding may be merely a preliminary stage of development. Moreover, an experiential realization, beyond the merely conceptual, may feel so complete that one might conclude that "This is it". Some insist that once the non-dual nature of the Self is realized, one has arrived, and it is meaningless to speak of further degrees of growth or levels of realization. Others hold that Self-realization is an important milestone, but that spiritual development never ends. Can we reconcile the injunction to live in the present moment with the understanding that there is much development yet to undergo? Are there criteria by which Enlightenment can be measured or certified? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded <https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EdVikBJhGoE> &v=EdVikBJhGoE Creativity, perception and responsibility that comes with realization' - an extract from conversation between Zen Buddhist Teacher, David R. Loy, presenter of 'Buddha at the Gas Pump', Rick Archer and Spiritual Teacher, Igor Kufayev. Recorded during Science and Nonduality Conference, San Rafael, CA, Oct 2012. and let's not forget https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded <https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EdVikBJhGoE> &v=EdVikBJhGoE Puppetji shares how it feels to live life in the seeking SAND box http://cdn.fora.tv/thumbnails/16476_320_240.jpg
