[FairfieldLife] Another Account of Financial Fraud and Danger

2007-10-27 Thread Bronte Baxter
 
  Bronte writes:
  Here is a statement from Amma's former Joint Secretary in charge of accounts 
about the fraudulent nature of Amma's charities.
   
  Exerpt from Message 283 in files of ex-amma website:
  I’m enclosing below a statement that was emailed to the Amma satsang groups 
by one of Amma’s former swamis when he left the organization. He was the Joint 
Secretary in charge of accounts, administration, banking and investments. He 
was offered money by the ashram if he would retract what he wrote, but he has 
courageously stood by his words despite being now under financial pressure. He 
recently started a wholesale export business for religious and devotional 
items. The quality and prices of his merchandise seem very good. Anyone 
interested should check out his website www.celextel.com
   
  IDEAS IN REALITY - INSIDE STORY

My life of Twenty-Two Years as a Monastic was of never ending struggles in 
trying to bring the various Spiritual Ideas as Reality in my Life. While 
attempting to narrow down the gaps between the Ideas and Reality, I finally 
chose to observe my Life in Reality and had to give up the Ideas that remained 
unrealistic in my Life. 

Chastity was the main Idea that had failed to become Reality in my Life 
primarily due to the highly stimulating environment that I was put in. 

Not only in the individual level, but also in the Organization level, I have 
seen wide gaps when the ideas are put into practice. To narrate a few 
instances: 

1. Just before the Inauguration of the Hospital at Cochin, we had suggested 
Amma to declare that Hospital as a Charitable One. But Amma had firmly told us 
that Amma would declare it as a FREE Hospital as that being Amma's real 
intention while establishing the same. Under the Indo-US Agreement, to get the 
complete waiver of Customs Duty for all the Medical Items to be Imported, the 
Ashram also has given an Irrevocable Undertaking to the Government of India 
that the Hospital would provide Medical Treatments at Free of Cost. But in 
Reality, as everyone here knows, the Ashram Hospital at Cochin is not a Free 
Hospital; Neither it could be considered to be a Charitable One as Certain 
Percentage of Beds have not been set aside as Free Ones for the use of 
Deserving Poor Patients. Many of the Deserving Patients from the Poorest Strata 
of the Society are turned away by the Hospital; Few of the luckiest ones get 
Subsidy; Persons from the Middle Class of the Society get affordable
 Treatment and the Affluent ones get the Treatment at a Competitive Rate. The 
Math which is a Charitable Trust is not supposed to run the Hospital like a 
Commercial Establishment as it is doing right now. When would the Ashram make 
the Hospital at Cochin as a Free or a Charitable One in Reality ? 

2. The Ashram now claims to have completed 15,000 Houses to the Deserving Poor 
under the current Housing Scheme. In Reality, the Ashram has constructed not 
more than 7,500 Houses [50%] so for. The Ashram also is claiming to have spent 
about Rs.28,000/= per House. But in Reality, the cost incurred by the Ashram 
for each of the House is not more than Rs.14,000/= [50%]. Why are the False 
Claims ?...

Let there be Justice to Every-one;
Injustice to No-one ! 
Let there be Truth Every-where;
Untruth No-where !
  Edited by: Borg108 at: 6/5/03 9:33 am
   
   
  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ammaex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You pointed to a post that was posted four years ago from some
 anonymous person. That really does not substantiate these claims. I
 ask that you please back up these claims, otherwise it is all just
 speculation.

 thanks - moderator
   
  Re: Save Saint Amma From Greedy Capitalists 
   
  I am the AIMS consultant referred to by Borg108 in his posting of
four years ago. I still have in my possession the hospital financial
statements and my original interview notes that substantiate
everything mentioned in his posting about AIMS and the
misrepresentation of its charitable work. You should also be aware,
that based on my discussions with AIMS top administrators, all policy
decisions with respect to AIMS were made through the direction of and
with the knowledge and approval of AMMA herself. Others I know who
can also verify this information are afraid to do so out of fear for
their personal safety.
   
  … Those I know who have spoken out
privately about these matters are residing still in India where
violence and political influence against others is a way of life. I,
myself, was warned by two saintly swamis in India to keep my mouth
shut soon after I discovered what was happening at AIMS. But as the
bible points out, even the stones will speak out the truth
eventually.


  (posted by HughNMe [EMAIL PROTECTED]) posts 281 and 283, examma
 
   

   
   
  ref’ed (link) in message 283, ex-amma
   
  Amma, Inc. 

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  I first arrived at Amma’s Indian ashram just in time for her birthday 
celebration. What immediately struck 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Another Account of Financial Fraud and Danger

2007-10-27 Thread Rick Archer
These accusations are disturbing if true, but I’m not in a position to rebut
them. As I said, I don’t have first-hand experience of anything going on in
India, and my experience with Amma in the US has been positive and
uplifting. I suggest again that you post such things to HYPERLINK
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zonehttp://groups.yahoo.
com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone, where you might get some informed
responses, pro and con. But of course, your forgone conclusion is that gurus
and Indian spirituality in general are bad, so maybe it suits you better to
post to sites where no one will challenge what you say.


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