[FairfieldLife] Re: Opinions and Truth

2007-09-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip For folks who have not had that experience, beliefs and opinions are easy to fixate on, and to confuse with Truth. And when someone pokes at one of the things you confuse with Truth, you react. The reaction is NOT

[FairfieldLife] Re: Opinions and Truth

2007-09-12 Thread new . morning
Bronte, Thanks for your thoughtful response. The holocaust question and similar ones has been a bit of a mind stretch. For me, a probability framework resolves the question. I give the holocaust as happening a 99.5% probable. Which seems shocking -- What you actually have any doubt that it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Opinions and Truth

2007-09-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bronte posts snipped: When another person's belief is so out of line with our own opinions and assumptions, it's almost impossible to bend the mind to form an opening large enough to consider

[FairfieldLife] Re: Opinions and Truth

2007-09-12 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The knowldege, TMO imminent success, MMY's infallibility, or other such, were held as absolutely true, 100% probability, at least one time in our lives, for many of us. Still is for many. :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Opinions and Truth

2007-09-12 Thread Bronte Baxter
TurqB wrote: One of the values of working with a teacher who can blast you out of your socks with shakti is that when he does, there is nothing left. No beliefs, no opinions, no you to even *have* beliefs and opinions. You're washed clean, for a short time, and then the beliefs and the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Opinions and Truth

2007-09-12 Thread Duveyoung
Bronte, Do you see a difference between having a desire and being attached to a desire? To me, attachment is identification -- thinking one is something small instead of unbounded. If this identification is removed, the desires can stay and be considered God's will. Edg --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Opinions and Truth

2007-09-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurqB wrote: One of the values of working with a teacher who can blast you out of your socks with shakti is that when he does, there is nothing left. No beliefs, no opinions, no you to even *have* beliefs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Opinions and Truth

2007-09-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bronte, Do you see a difference between having a desire and being attached to a desire? To me, attachment is identification -- thinking one is something small instead of unbounded. If this identification is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Opinions and Truth

2007-09-12 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurqB wrote: One of the values of working with a teacher who can blast you out of your socks with shakti is that when he does, there is nothing left. No beliefs, no opinions, no you to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Opinions and Truth

2007-09-12 Thread Bhairitu
Bronte Baxter wrote: Bronte: This is one problem I have with gurus in general: their ability to blast people clean of their opinions, desires and other aspects of their individuality. I find that scary. Let me rephrase -- I find that counterproductive to personal evolution. I no

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Opinions and Truth

2007-09-12 Thread Peter
Bronte, who are the gurus that you have had direct personal experience with? --- Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bronte Baxter wrote: Bronte: This is one problem I have with gurus in general: their ability to blast people clean of their opinions, desires and other aspects of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Opinions and Truth

2007-09-12 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter brontebaxter8@ wrote: TurqB wrote: One of the values of working with a teacher who can blast you out of your socks with shakti is that when he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Opinions and Truth

2007-09-12 Thread tertonzeno
---Right, but then after the false identifications have been blasted away, one (the holographic entity as a body/mind...but without the false identification), can resume or continue being a real individual. (Carrying water and chopping wood). Some people get stuck in the Neo-Advaitin trap,