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Le 2009-05-02 05:40, Max Spevack a écrit :
http://www.libregraphicsmeeting.org/2009/
Is anyone from the Fedora community attending this?
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I would love to but my schedule is full for the week. =(
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that a fix for this went into F11.
~m
I can confirm the fix (courtesy of Peter Hutterer)work well on Fedora
Rawhide (soon to be Leonidas) using the legacy USB Graphire2 4x5.
Pressure sensitivity is out of box specific to application. Make sure
to set input device to Wacom.
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. The new evdev and linuxwacom
0.8.2.2 supports pressure sensitivity out of box, you need to set up
on both Gimp and Inkscape through Input Device set to screen mode.
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and
others?), that will be really appreciated because it should cultural
factors can be into play.
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for task to do on
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService
and wait for review.
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| Anything else you'd like to add?
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Not at all.
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with Greek
pattern. I am wonder about media (CD/DVD) because detai;s
might be costly to be printed.
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Máirín Duffy a écrit :
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| From: Luya Tshimbalanga l...@fedoraproject.org
| To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com
| Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:12:10 PM
| Subject: Re: New Concept for F11 King
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I started to write a few answer but it is not completed yet.
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the best one is not
from designers themselves . =)--
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Ian Weller a écrit :
| On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 11:07:38PM -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
| Setting in critic mode:
| Did you use hyphen or em dashes in first and last paragraph?
| Careful with the widow at the end of last paragraph?
| Title Chapter
?
|
| Martin
I indeed uploaded wrong version. Link should get the right one.
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Setting in critic mode:
Did you use hyphen or em dashes in first and last paragraph?
Careful with the widow at the end of last paragraph?
Title Chapter 2: Friends is hard to read due to similar hue. Enlighten it
might help.
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Quoting Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com:
Hi,
I've also finished new document-open icon set [1]. There's not much to
comment since it's basically just an adaptation of the current Echo icon
to perspective projection.
Could you match the text from 256x256 to the rest? It is odd the
compared to the dimetric version. I've also covered Greenland
| with ice ;-)
Continents will still look distorted. No much comments to add with other
folder variants.
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| gnome-icon-theme design in this one so that it is consistent with
| user-home.
Will the search symbol inside this folder be used as standalone instead
of binocular?
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Nothin special as I did while taking a break from assignment.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Artwork#Mock-ups
I may consider making some pattern for on old jars.
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Máirín Duffy a écrit :
| Hi folks,
|
| Perhaps we're not quite ready this year, but something we
| might want to think about in the future is submitting some
| of our works to a big design competition like AIGA's annual
| 365 design competition. If
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| For the natural elements part, I believe olive trees could be an
| addition, as they are symbols of glory peace. In ancient Greece olive
| was sacred.
Agreed. Olive trees are excellent choice for the theme.
Quoting MáirÃÂn Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org:
Hi folks,
This is a really really sloppy mockup but hopefully illustrates the kind
of visuals I'm thinking of for F11:
https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/8/83/Artwork_F11_greek-concept_mockup1_mo.png
I think of desolation when I see that
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Mark a écrit :
| So, to get back on my initial topic..
| How do you guys feel about a full theme in the old fedora (Core 1 till
| 4) colors?
| The link with the F11 name is (just making it up now) : Reviving old
| days. (the name represents something
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Nicu Buculei a écrit :
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|
| Not sure what would be the best option, but how about a nautilus
blueprint? This way we have a link with Greece (golden ratio), water
(nautilus) and steampunk (blueprint). And maybe throw in some
mathematical formulas
Quoting Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com:
Sorry for the second mail, I forgot to actually add the reference.
[1] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/MonthlyNews/Issue4-5
News submitted on Fedora Forum [1]
Luya
[1]http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=210042
Tylan Lee a écrit :
Hello everyone,
I'm excited to be apart of this art team, so let me introduce myself. I
originally went to school for recording engineering, got hired at Apple
teaching people how to use the music software, but later wanted to explore my
drawing capabilities. I moved
Martin Sourada a écrit :
Hi,
As I am working on the new Trash Can icon for the Echo Icon Theme, I was
wondering whether it would be acceptable to use small amount of
post-processing in the icon themes. If so, I'd probably implement it to
the echo-artist scripts so that the PNGs would be
Just completed installation to Fedora 10. Added in Echo Perspective is
trash concept based on
real object using Martin's gradients. Feedback welcome.
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Quoting Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
As promised , here's [1] a new design concept. I'd say it's more
realistic and less Echoey, but IMHO looks good :-)
Could you give version with the set of icon size?
Luya - having finished a Saturday class ...
Martin Sourada a écrit :
If you'd like, you can consider it a competition. The prize is obvious -
the selected design will be visible on every desktop using the Echo
Perspective icon set. Though I'd rather consider it a gathering of
ideas... :-D
Also, I would not like this to be limited to
Martin Sourada a écrit :
Finally I'd like to throw some fuel for discussion (mainly on the
art-list). We are a lot criticized for inconsistencies in the projection
we use in echo. Strictly speaking we are using 3 different types of
projections and we have rules which is used where and we are
Martin Sourada a écrit :
I suppose you're talking about the 16x16 version? It should be fixed
now. Check the attachment.
Yes, that 16x16 version. Could you sightly reduce gradient on
upper-right? Other than that, no further comment.
Luya
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Martin Sourada a écrit :
To me, everything below 32x32 is almost unreadable. The side of the keys
is too dark and as a result outline gets lost there. Did you tried
making the key shape a little pyramid-like? I'd suggest to bring the
keys closer, or even join them together in the smallest
Martin Sourada a écrit :
Looking better but still not good enough, I think. Try to shape the icon
in similar style like in gnome icon theme (with isometric pesrspective
though). You should add shadow as well.
Martin
New version of emblem-symbolic-link.
Luya
References:
Martin Sourada a écrit :
On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 00:57 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
Seeing the preview, a serif typeface is much a better approach than
using sans-serif.
Luya
I've updated the icons, following Nicu's suggestion for improving
strike-through. I attach screen-shot
Blame me for pushing Echo through FESCO. After following suggestion for
submitting it to FESCO, I was a bit surprised that icon set was
accepted. Were it rejected, we will not have to deal with current
issue. In one part we'd withdraw Echo while taking a hit from
outside for once again not
- Desktop Effects
- the anaconda pixmaps/icons
Also system-config* that contains Bluecurve icons.
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Martin Sourada a écrit :
Looking better. Now the only icon that does not seem crisp enough for me
is the 22x22. I think you need to simplify the design there (like has
been done for the 16x16). I think it would look better if the progress
bar in 16x16 was thicker (perhaps two or three pixels
Martin Sourada a écrit :
First the most obvious issue - you used wrong perspective. It's an
emblem icon and thus it needs to use the isometric perspective. Also I
think it would work better if the arrow was thinner. I'd suggest you try
to recreate it yourself and use rounded edges even for the
Martin Sourada a écrit :
I think all the sizes sans 256x256 need further fixes to look more crisp
and be better recognisable. For the 16x16 I'd rather use radio button +
progress bar than two radio buttons.
Updated icon set.
Luya
References
No further comment.
Luya
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Martin Sourada a écrit :
I think it would be better if you added some button on the vast space
inside the window, rather than in the menu, or toolbar or whatever it
is. The current one looks sort of strange to me. Also the menu for the
green one would be probably better in dark green than in
Nicu Buculei a écrit :
Attached: I copied the widgets to the green window, the icon was
unbalanced without them.
Good catch. I have updated the model to fix some blurriness on 16x16.
Luya
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Hi,
I've just finished an updated echo one-canvas template. I added gradient
samples. Posting here for consideration.
Martin
The concept is very good and I like Nicu's version where gradient on
their own layer.
Perhaps echo-artist package should get that version.
Nicu Buculei a écrit :
Martin Sourada wrote:
After few tries I decided to go button-like. It is like you create a
button with the shape of the original letter, but without any holes in
it and draw the letter on it. First it is consistent with e.g.
dialog-cancel design, second it is easy to
Nicu Buculei a écrit :
I think you also put some color for the content of the windows, to
make the distinction clearer (how about a normal one and an
inverted another?).
And if you are going with themed windows, they need some details: a
few buttons and panels.
I have updated the theme. The
Martin Sourada a écrit :
I've slightly changed the 22x22 version of the paper template to be more
consistent with the other variants (basically I made it 1 pixel
shorter), you should update the image-missing too (the change is small
but makes it look better). When done I have no further
Martin Sourada a écrit :
Speaking about paper-template, it will be nice to set a directory to
store such template in git repository.
I think of having them part of the echo-artist scripts (so in git they
would be in the echo-artist sources), as well as available directly on
the
Hi Máirín,
Máirín Duffy a écrit :
If the logomark and logotype are used as two separate design elements,
they are going to need more clear spacing between them. See:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Logo_Clear_Space
New version of image-missing based on gnome metaphor. I have create a
template called paper-template which will be the base of incoming
mimetype icons.
Luya
References:
http://luya.fedorapeople.org/echo/status/
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Something's strange, not sure what though. Perhaps you could try to make
the X read instead of the paper and use semitransparent/greyscale
image below it on the paper to suggest that it's a (missing) image? Or
perhaps try different metaphor? The gnome metaphor seems
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Martin Sourada a écrit :
On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 03:23 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
I looked to Oxygen icon version and was wondering if there were a power
plug with extension.
This version is not bad but the 256x256 network-(dis)connect looks
strange. For network-disconnect, could you
Quoting Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 22:09 -0400, MáirÃn Duffy wrote:
Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 18:22 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
Bill Nottingham a écrit :
Looking at the desktop now (beta), I see:
- at least three different
Samuele Storari a écrit :
Anyway... I fixed Solar wall paper with a moon taken from
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Full_moon.png which is public
domain and is possible to use.
After it, I will fix also invinxible so we can leave it on wiki.
There is a tsuka image from wikipedia
Klaatu a écrit :
The rules and licensing issues were clear to me when I joined a few
months ago.
I think a quick reference guide on what is ok to use and what is not
ok to use might be a good idea, though, just because i think everyone
must get a little confused from time to time about what
William Jon McCann a écrit :
Hi Bill,
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When we approved Echo as the default icon theme for F10, I was under the
assumption that this was already more or less known as a feature to the
Desktop group, and they were OK
Bill Nottingham a écrit :
Looking at the desktop now (beta), I see:
- at least three different icon perspectives in the stock menus
(echo, 'stock', bluecurve)
I think Bluecurve mix are desktop bug. Current Fedora default theme used
Bluecurve from some applications, same issue occurs on
Máirín Duffy a écrit :
Hi Luya,
Would you mind giving us a summary?
Sure, here is summary of comments from fedora-fr for each theme:
About Solar:
- Sun to bright from one voter
- Effects that brought back the success of Flying High theme from Fedora 7
- the most favourite theme by far
Martin Sourada a écrit :
Still not quite right, so I decided to give it a go myself to see what
can be done. See the attached result. Note that I also slightly changed
the gradient to better fit with other icons (most notably I made it
brighter).
I saw that you increased outline to 2.5 px
Martin Sourada a écrit :
I see your point... My idea was something like: tick symbolises that
it's OK and the semi-transparent junk symbol suggests that it's about
the junk - i.e. the mail is not junk... But well, seems it's too complex
metaphor to grasp on first try (which is bad). What
Martin Sourada a écrit :
Hi,
I think there some major problems with how the current trash related
icons look in small sizes and I've tried to fix them once already, but
since I didn't want to touch the Diana's original design (the trash is
one of the first icons that were in the Echo set),
Pavel Shevchuk a écrit :
I fail to recall any transparent trash bins. This one looks like glass
of water =\
Some themes use transparent trash bins.
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A poll was made following my posting[1] about the four theme that
qualified for Round 3 in fedora-fr (the forum lacked tool for poll).
You can view the result [2]. Use a translator as the posts are in French
language.
Luya
References:
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[1]
Martin Sourada a écrit :
$ /usr/bin/inkscape -i rect5319
-e /home/martin/Projects/Echo/git/base/16x16/actions/object-rotate-left.png
object-rotate-left.svg /dev/null 21
Seems like you imported another one-canvas SVG, but didn't removed the
hidden plate layer, which of course imported not
Martin Sourada a écrit :
I attach further tweaks to improve the icon clarity.
Martin
No further comment. I used this version to make object-rotate-right.
Luya
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Martin Sourada a écrit :
The 256x256 is too thick, compare with object-rotate-left.
Whoops, corrected.
The 48x48
needs a little tweak on the out-most border, in top left corner of the
canvas it's a little blurry.
Slight alignment set on left side.
The 32x32 one seems to have blurry
Martin Sourada a écrit :
I've fixed the remaining issues, see the attachment (I've also removed
unused defs in the SVG, so it's not that big now).
Martin
Ok. There is no further comment. Shall I push it to git?
Luya
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Martin Sourada a écrit :
You are free to do so. Don't forget to let the echo-add-icon script also
do the branch specific changes - it's not only adding symlinks, but also
adding the icon to the build scripts (for master branch). You haven't
done this for object-flip-* pushes (so I've done it
Martin Sourada a écrit :
Good, just check whether you have the 48x48 icon grouped and labelled as
scalable (otherwise the scalable icon might end up being empty). I
recently realised I tend to forgot to do that step (and it's possible I
forgot to do it in the object-rotate-* icons), so I'll
Martin Sourada a écrit :
Hi,
we've briefly discussed with Mo on the irc, that it might be worth
setting up a fedorahosted.org instance for the Fedora Art Team. Primary
purpose would be to host our release graphics, but it could serve other
purposes as well (e.g. using ticket system for
Martin Sourada a écrit :
I was not suggesting using git (though it would be helpful too), I was
suggesting using the space generally (like the ticket system, for
releasing official tarbals, etc). But, yeah, if it were set up with git,
I'd prepare some set of scripts for that as well :-)
I modified and stick Nicu's post[1] on Fedora Forum to be visible. If there is
some mistake, let me know so I can correct them.
References:
[1] http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=194915
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Martin Sourada a écrit :
Hi,
The reason for this mail is simple - there are about eleven mail-* icons
in the action context and two of them are missing in the echo icons,
most of those also contain folder in the icon (letter folder) so it's
good idea to recreate all of them in a batch and
Máirín Duffy a écrit :
Oh wow, that's much, much better, great work :) I saw the modified
horizontal one too but I still think that one needs a little tweaking.
I'm not sure how though :(
Thanks Máirín. That tweaking can be done later after the icon set is
pushed in repository.
Otherwise,
Máirín Duffy a écrit :
Well to be honest I likely won't be but thanks for the invite. My
interest right now is more in design work for marketing materials than
icon work... some day I might try to help out but I've not ever really
enjoyed icon work.
No problem, the door is always open and you
amrita mukherjee a écrit :
Hi,
I am Amrita Mukherjee ,currently pursuing B-tech from Dr. B.C. Roy
Engineering College. I am a member of DGPLUG group and presently doing
some artwork with the help of inkscape. I would be highly delighted to
be a member of this community and contribute some
issue of the globle on 256x256 icon.
Monitor and the global are hard to distinguish on extra small icon. Perhaps
adding outline on the globe might help .
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Rahul Sundaram a écrit :
Good move.
Was comps.xml updated to reflect the new default in rawhide? Any
communication with the desktop and kde teams?
Not yet. I got the news recently and need to contact both team.
Luya
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Martin Sourada a écrit :
The metaphor might work (as we already discussed on #fedora-art), but I
think it should be in apps context which means it needs to have
isometric perspective.
Make sense.
BTW. Did you start the icon using echo-new-icon to have everything set
right? I am (almost)
about
echo-icon-theme, please visit the website[3].
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[2] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/search/echo-artist
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P.S
various applications handle mask
functionality in inkscape (when the SVG is saved as Inkscape SVG). While
nautilus does not display masked objects at all[...]
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I have updated the feature session for Echo in order to get reviewed by
Fesco.
I am also sent a copy to desktop list. Feedback is welcome
Luya
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Nicu Buculei a écrit :
I think you should mention that Echo is already available in the
distro (non-default) for a number of releases.
Wiki updated. Need to check if corrections are needed.
Luya
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Martin Sourada a écrit :
Hi,
I've just finished (initial take of) preferences-system-authentication
icon set. I attach an one canvas PNG, SVG is available on my
fedorapeople page [1], and a screen-shot of it in action ;-)
Martin
Glad to see a good use of expression derived from emote
Andreas Nilsson a écrit :
Hi Martin!
My concern was mainly that if the new set don't do a better job with
coverage than the old one, I would consider it a regression.
- Andreas
The new set does better coverage despite having only two people working
on that project.
First level of menu are
://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/EchoIconTheme
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Nicu Buculei a écrit :
The move was not updated in the schedule page:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/Schedule but yes, there is
an extension.
The question is: do we want to propose this feature?
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Dashboard
Nicu Buculei a écrit :
My take is: go for it, the contingency is easy, just switch back to
using Mist.
On the other hand, if we get the feature accepted for F10, there is
time until RC to add icons to the set to improve coverage (do we have
any numeric stats about coverage, like a
Martin Sourada a écrit :
Just for information, nodoka-notification-theme wasn't accepted by Fesco
as feature, even though they seem to be OK with the change (so we
changed it recently). It seems like artwork things are preferred to be
decided by the Art Team rather than Fesco. I have a
, you can add -m option
write comment without directly going to vi. hope it helps.
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Martin Sourada a écrit :
Slightly better. To better express my comments, I edited the 22x22
version to what I liked ;-) The changes are:
* repositioning to better fit the pixel grid
* added gradient to some borders, make them darker to increase contrast and
clarity
* redo the shadows
Martin Sourada a écrit :
Seems you haven't pushed it yet :) Some comments (I was off-line since
last Saturday so I apologize for the late reply):
* The first version you sent looks strange, seems like the figures are
way too thin
* The second version suffers the same issue, also the
With no comment about the icons, I will submit these iconset on git after
fixing some blurinesses.
BTW, Nicu, the chibi idea is good. I am considering to add some expression
on large size version.
*Written from Art Direction class*
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Using Nicu's chibi model, here is a variation of all size excluding 256x256
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Martin Sourada a écrit :
Just a notice that I've redone the other = 22x22 sizes in that style as
well. I attach the current candidates for approval (only PNGs). SVGs and
the previous tries can be found on my fedorapeople page [1].
Looks much better without the printed. The base looks
Here is updated version c for 16x16 and 22x22.
Luya
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Almost done except the fast-forward issue with 0.3.x branch.
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