Re: PolicyKit changes in F12

2009-05-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Oh, and I should add: Matthias Clasen wrote: > It took me a couple of evenings to write patches for the majority of > polkit users in gnome, so I assume it should be possible to do the same > for KDE. It is probably even easier, since you have those fabulous > abstraction layers on top of all the

Re: PolicyKit changes in F12

2009-05-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthias Clasen wrote: > It took me a couple of evenings to write patches for the majority of > polkit users in gnome Several of your "porting patches" just drop PolicyKit support entirely (so it looks to me like either it's actually more work to port to the new PolicyKit than you claim or the new

Re: PolicyKit changes in F12

2009-05-23 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 00:33 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > How long old PK will be shipped in Fedora? > > Shipping old PolicyKit won't really help, as PackageKit etc. are all going > to get ported to the new one. The only reasonable thing to do is to BLOCK > the upgrade un

Re: unowned files and directories

2009-05-23 Thread Milos Jakubicek
On 23.5.2009 19:46, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: Hi! I now and then check which files on my systems are not owned by any RPM package. That often turns up a lot's of old and obsolete stuff that sometimes eats space I'd like to free. During those checks I often find lots of files and directories that

Re: unowned files and directories

2009-05-23 Thread Curtis Doty
Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/31/2009 06:05 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/31/2009 05:42 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote: Lat meeting log seems to be: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Development#Communication It's not active anymore. The Fedora Development

Re: PolicyKit changes in F12

2009-05-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Caroline Meeks wrote: > Luke and Sasha are working on a new USB format that they feel will allow > more machines to boot and support VM + Stick > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/USB_format > > Perhaps the issue you are running into (which we have definitely seen > before) is relat

Re: PolicyKit changes in F12

2009-05-23 Thread Rex Dieter
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 12:07:45PM -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: The biggest problem is gonna be uploading it over my *$!* ADSL connection. I wasn't looking for hosting, just for somewhere to store the tracker. It's my understanding (possibly inco

Re: FESCo Meeting Summary for 2009-05-22

2009-05-23 Thread Christopher Stone
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I wasn't looking for hosting, just for somewhere to store the tracker. It's my understanding (possibly incorrect) that the initial seed and the tracker are separate things which don't need to be kept at the same location. You are correct. A tracker just funnels (init

Re: Youth Protection: Was Re: Package Maintainers Flags policy

2009-05-23 Thread Christopher Stone
Compose started at Mon Jun 1 06:15:04 UTC 2009 Summary: Added Packages: 0 Removed Packages: 0 Modified Packages: 0 Broken deps for ppc64 -- cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7 -- fedora-devel-list mai

Re: Package Maintainers Flags policy

2009-05-23 Thread Christopher Stone
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 12:07:45PM -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > On Mon, 1 Jun 2009, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > >> >> Large data sets derived from analysing the code in Fedora packages... >> I was hoping to save the announcement til later. >> >> For the purposes of this, big data files, derived f

Re: rawhide report: 20090523 changes

2009-05-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Large data sets derived from analysing the code in Fedora packages... I was hoping to save the announcement til later. For the purposes of this, big data files, derived from Fedora content so under a free license of some sort, probably up to 30GB

unowned files and directories

2009-05-23 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Not really the sort of open tracker I was looking for ... Opening the question a bit, does anyone know a good tracker hosting service for use by free software projects? h http://linuxtracker.org/ http://www.tuxdistro.com/ Not sure if that's what your after. Frank -

Re: List of packages including country flags

2009-05-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 11:53:12AM -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Mon, 1 Jun 2009, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: (Obviously it'll be Fedora/free software-related content) >>> You can always make a request to Infrastructure at >>> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/. We've hosted some >

Re: List of packages including country flags

2009-05-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > I did a quick survey from Fedora on what software Fedora users are using > that is not available in the repo. Here are the results. If you find > anything interesting, feel free to pick it up. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packag

Re: List of packages including country flags

2009-05-23 Thread Björn Persson
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: (Obviously it'll be Fedora/free software-related content) You can always make a request to Infrastructure at https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/. We've hosted some Fedora-related things there before. No idea if we have any sort of po

Re: Breaking deps deliberately

2009-05-23 Thread Braden McDaniel
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: Muayyad AlSadi wrote: I filed a bug report about it, and devels added an option to make it works with libraries only And how do you define "library"? There's no reliable way to distinguish them from applications. This is part of the problem. It woul

rawhide report: 20090523 changes

2009-05-23 Thread Rawhide Report
Muayyad AlSadi wrote: > I filed a bug report about it, and devels added an option to make it > works with libraries only And how do you define "library"? There's no reliable way to distinguish them from applications. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redha

Re: I must be doing something seriously wrong...

2009-05-23 Thread Josh Boyer
the only usage for soft dependency in my opinion is to offer the user with choices in front ends like yumex and PK in other words they should be considered as does not depend when removing packages or doing a cleanup > yum-remove-with-leaves will happily remove those even if you actually want > t

Re: FESCo Meeting Summary for 2009-05-22

2009-05-23 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009, Juha Tuomala wrote: On Monday 01 June 2009 16:59:40 Seth Vidal wrote: if you run: yum install foo-app and it drags in: bar-app and foo-lib Then you've not explicitly chosen to install bar-app. With the availability of the yumdb information we should be able to make re

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 12 Development - 2009-05-22

2009-05-23 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Monday 01 June 2009 16:59:40 Seth Vidal wrote: > if you run: > yum install foo-app > and it drags in: > bar-app > and > foo-lib > > Then you've not explicitly chosen to install bar-app. > > With the availability of the yumdb information we should be able to make > remove-with-leaves know m

Conflicts not being resolved

2009-05-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: Actually, there are two: - package-cleanup that I mentioned - yum-plugin-remove-with-leaves that Seth mentioned which is even easier But both are completely broken by design because they don't understand the difference

Re: mono-2.4 and ppc64 status

2009-05-23 Thread Xavier Lamien
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > As far as I can tell, in Debian a versioned suggestion is still just a > suggestion. If B = 1.0 were installed, it would be up to the package > A to detect this and do the right thing. But I agree this is a nasty > corner case which would need to be made explicit one w

Re: List of packages including country flags

2009-05-23 Thread José Matos
Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: > Actually, there are two: > - package-cleanup that I mentioned > - yum-plugin-remove-with-leaves that Seth mentioned which is even easier But both are completely broken by design because they don't understand the difference between something being dragged in as a

Re: List of packages including country flags

2009-05-23 Thread Ewan Mac Mahon
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 05:48:44PM -0500, inode0 wrote: > On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > > We're announcing a Fedora Activity day coming up very very soon > > (apologies for the short notice).  This activity day is for maintainers, > > QA, and release engineering folks to

Re: In which country should Fedora be legal?

2009-05-23 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 05:00:54AM -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote: > On 2009-06-01 09:53:47 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > Do we offer a bittorrent tracker that FAS / fp.org users can use to > > host their own bittorrent content? > > > > (Obviously it'll be Fedora/free software-related content) > You

Re: Long term Flags handling suggestion

2009-05-23 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 05:54:21PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/31/2009 05:48 PM, Alexey Torkhov wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 17:33 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> On 05/31/2009 05:24 PM, Alexey Torkhov wrote: > >>> On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 16:58 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> > >>> >

Re: (1/3) Broken dependencies in Fedora 12 Development - 2009-05-22

2009-05-23 Thread philippe makowski
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 08:15:48AM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > Hello. > > Yesterday I installed latest F11/rawhide. The default installed kernel > (2.6.29 something) works fine. > > I compiled custom 2.6.30-rc6 kernel, and created initrd for it, and tried > booting it. > > Booting process

Long term Flags handling suggestion

2009-05-23 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:53:07PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > Or consider "Recommends: B >= 1.2" - what exactly does this mean? The > package does something "better" if B is installed too, but what if we > only have B 1.0 installed/available. Does the package even work with B > 1.0? If it