What is public/private fork? - Criteria packaging in fedora

2009-12-11 Thread Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I have forked libtar as libtar-ng, because the upstream does not have time to maintain it anymore. Here is the bz: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=546169 Now the question is what is a private fork? Am i wrong in forking it and

Re: What is public/private fork? - Criteria packaging in fedora

2009-12-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:07:29 +0530, Huzaifa wrote: I have forked libtar as libtar-ng, because the upstream does not have time to maintain it anymore. Here is the bz: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=546169 Now the question is what is a private fork? Am i wrong in forking it

Re: What is public/private fork? - Criteria packaging in fedora

2009-12-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/11/2009 02:07 PM, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I have forked libtar as libtar-ng, because the upstream does not have time to maintain it anymore. Here is the bz: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=546169 Now the

Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-11 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/12/11 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: For the initial testing, just giving every user a @feodraproject.org domain would be sufficient, however we should have a discussion about whether to use this email address or to use the user's real email address. Definitely @fedoraproject.org

Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20091211) FESCo meeting

2009-12-11 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Friday, 11 December 2009 at 02:38, Jon Stanley wrote: The following items will be discussed at tomorrow's FESCo meeting, at 17:00UTC (noon EST) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net [...] 291 Man pages Packaging Guideline Um, what? This was tabled for further discussion during the last

Re: What is public/private fork? - Criteria packaging in fedora

2009-12-11 Thread Florian Festi
Without knowing the history: Best solution would be to ask former upstream for permission to continue the project under its original name and may be even to forward the old mailing list and web page the to new ones. But I am not sure if you are living the the best of all possible worlds...

Re: What is public/private fork? - Criteria packaging in fedora

2009-12-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/11/2009 03:56 PM, Florian Festi wrote: Without knowing the history: Best solution would be to ask former upstream for permission to continue the project under its original name That was already denied https://lists.feep.net:8080/pipermail/libtar/2009-May/000259.html Rahul --

Re: What is public/private fork? - Criteria packaging in fedora

2009-12-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:14:40 +0530, Rahul wrote: On 12/11/2009 03:56 PM, Florian Festi wrote: Without knowing the history: Best solution would be to ask former upstream for permission to continue the project under its original name That was already denied

Re: What is public/private fork? - Criteria packaging in fedora

2009-12-11 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 16:14 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 12/11/2009 03:56 PM, Florian Festi wrote: Without knowing the history: Best solution would be to ask former upstream for permission to continue the project under its original name That was already denied

Re: What is public/private fork? - Criteria packaging in fedora

2009-12-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/11/2009 04:38 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:14:40 +0530, Rahul wrote: On 12/11/2009 03:56 PM, Florian Festi wrote: Without knowing the history: Best solution would be to ask former upstream for permission to continue the project under its original name That

Re: What is public/private fork? - Criteria packaging in fedora

2009-12-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:43:16 +0530, Rahul wrote: On 12/11/2009 04:38 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:14:40 +0530, Rahul wrote: On 12/11/2009 03:56 PM, Florian Festi wrote: Without knowing the history: Best solution would be to ask former upstream for permission to

Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-11 Thread Lubomir Rintel
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 11:05 +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/12/11 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: For the initial testing, just giving every user a @feodraproject.org domain would be sufficient, however we should have a discussion about whether to use this email address or to use the

Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-11 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Lubomir Rintel wrote: A big -1 for this. Your A lot is in fact a tiny fraction and for some of us an e-mail address is important mean for identifying an user (Oh, this is John Doe of Canonical, ...). I use mine exclusively and I think referring to the generic address

Re: Fedora release criteria completely revised

2009-12-11 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 07:11 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 12/07/2009 10:55 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: In https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Beta_Release_Criteria under Beta Release Requirements, Item 10 The installer must be able to successfully complete an upgrade

Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-11 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 14:07, Lubomir Rintel lkund...@v3.sk wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 11:05 +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/12/11 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: For the initial testing, just giving every user a @feodraproject.org domain would be sufficient, however we should have a

Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-11 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 14:12, Seth Vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Lubomir Rintel wrote: A big -1 for this. Your A lot is in fact a tiny fraction and for some of us an e-mail address is important mean for

Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-11 Thread Owen Taylor
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 11:05 +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/12/11 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: For the initial testing, just giving every user a @feodraproject.org domain would be sufficient, however we should have a discussion about whether to use this email address or to use the

Re: Fedora release criteria completely revised

2009-12-11 Thread Ralf Ertzinger
Hi. On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:11:52 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: manually. Does this mean that the Fedora officially Supports upgrades now? Were upgraded installs not always supported, as long as the upgrade did not take place within the running system? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: Fedora release criteria completely revised

2009-12-11 Thread James Laska
On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 14:55 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: During FUDCon, we've been working on revising the Fedora release criteria. John Poelstra had already fleshed out a structure and much of the final content, and we've been revising and tweaking it in conjunction with QA (myself, Will

Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-11 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 08:12 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: And let me put it this way: if fedora decides to post my non @fp.o address somewhere, like in git entries, I'm going to be extremely pissed off about it. I think this would depend on what gets configured for your git client for fedora

Re: MariaDB and Fedora

2009-12-11 Thread Dennis J.
On 12/10/2009 09:01 PM, Pete Zaitcev wrote: On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:38:10 -0200 Henrique Juniorhenrique...@gmail.com wrote: I agree that postgresql is great, but MariaDB is expanding very fast. I'm not the best person to opine about databases, my experience is very limited, but it would be

Re: Fedora release criteria completely revised

2009-12-11 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 10:53 -0500, James Laska wrote: Not sure if this has been raised yet, but are we specifying when in the release that packages should be signed with a valid signature? I believe packages are signed at all release milestones, but I'd like to clear up that assumption.

Re: Fedora release criteria completely revised

2009-12-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:53:40 -0500, James Laska jla...@redhat.com wrote: Not sure if this has been raised yet, but are we specifying when in the release that packages should be signed with a valid signature? I believe packages are signed at all release milestones, but I'd like to

Re: Fedora release criteria completely revised

2009-12-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 10:53 -0500, James Laska wrote: Not sure if this has been raised yet, but are we specifying when in the release that packages should be signed with a valid signature? I believe packages are signed at all release milestones, but I'd like to clear up that assumption. Do

Re: mono and snk key files

2009-12-11 Thread Adam Goode
On 11/29/2009 11:29 AM, Christopher Brown wrote: 2009/11/29 Kalev Lember ka...@smartlink.ee: Hello, snip Comments? I'm the maintainer for log4net but unfortunately not for nant. I've finally gotten around to looking at this. Debian have a policy[1] of using a standard mono.snk which

Re: Fedora release criteria completely revised

2009-12-11 Thread James Laska
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 08:20 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 10:53 -0500, James Laska wrote: Not sure if this has been raised yet, but are we specifying when in the release that packages should be signed with a valid signature? I believe packages are signed at all

Re: Need a sponsor: mod_proxy_html (apache)

2009-12-11 Thread Mat Booth
2009/12/11 Jason L Tibbitts III ti...@math.uh.edu: MB == Mat Booth fed...@matbooth.co.uk writes: MB Here is a list of review requests that are not yet assigned to a MB reviewer: Rather than huge bugzilla queries, why not just http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/ ? Neat, I didn't

Re: Why pavucontrol is not installed by default?

2009-12-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 14:05 -0500, Jon Masters wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 12:59 +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 09:51:55AM -0200, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: I did a clean install of Fedora 12 and realized that pavucontrol was not installed by default. I have two sound

Re: Why pavucontrol is not installed by default?

2009-12-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 21:45 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: You can still do all the heavy lifting you want. Install the old gst-mixer, I actually dropped gst-mixer with F12, as we planned all along. So that one's not an option for F12. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw

new webkitgtk incremental release for F12

2009-12-11 Thread Adam Miller
There is currently a new incremental release to webkitgtk (the current release in F12 is 1.1.15-3, latest is 1.1.15-4) and I wanted to shoot out to the list to find out if there is anything that would need a new build against webkitgtk if I were to build the latest as a potential stable update for

Re: Why pavucontrol is not installed by default?

2009-12-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 13:40 -0500, Jon Masters wrote: I couldn't disagree more strongly. As a Linux user, I want the show me everything option. I don't care if I have to check a box to do it, but I want to see all the knobs and dials. And I at least expect not to have what I'm doing with

Re: Why pavucontrol is not installed by default?

2009-12-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 13:46 -0500, Jon Masters wrote: All paranoia and ranting aside, there is some truth to this. There is a definite trend in the Linux community to want to cater to the lowest common denominator by being more Mac/Windows-esque. I put up with it because I can usually ignore

Re: upstart-0.6.3 in rawhide, tomorrow 2009-12-10

2009-12-11 Thread darrell pfeifer
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:32, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) said: It's going to be a bit of a bumpy first yum upgrade. You will likely have to reboot with 'reboot -f', as the job formats have changed slightly, and the communication with

Re: Request for help maintaining packages while away.

2009-12-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 12:38 -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: Jef, I'll help with istanbul. If anyone else out there is considering doing so, please feel free to team up with me. Other than revelation(which essentially

Re: v4l applications

2009-12-11 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Nicolas Chauvet kwiz...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/12/5 Paulo Cavalcanti pro...@gmail.com: There are some old v4l applications that do not work in Fedora 12. I found so far fmtools and gnomeradio. I will have a look on fmtools in ew days, but until then, patches

Re: X on UEFI systems.

2009-12-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 08:57 +0100, Matěj Cepl wrote: Dne 10.12.2009 07:36, Vasily Levchenko napsal(a): Does it not work without an xorg.conf, that would be the first goal. No. File a bug please, attaching your xorg.conf, Xorg.0.log and output of the dmesg command (all from inside of

Re: Why pavucontrol is not installed by default?

2009-12-11 Thread Dan Williams
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 11:31 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 13:46 -0500, Jon Masters wrote: All paranoia and ranting aside, there is some truth to this. There is a definite trend in the Linux community to want to cater to the lowest common denominator by being more

Re: new webkitgtk incremental release for F12

2009-12-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 12:38 -0600, Adam Miller wrote: There is currently a new incremental release to webkitgtk (the current release in F12 is 1.1.15-3, latest is 1.1.15-4) and I wanted to shoot out to the list to find out if there is anything that would need a new build against webkitgtk if I

Re: upstart-0.6.3 in rawhide, tomorrow 2009-12-10

2009-12-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:32:18 -0800, darrell pfeifer darrel...@gmail.com wrote: I updated from my machine from koji (yes, I know, even more insane than from rawhide) I do that from time to time. A cherry pick koji builds regularly. But when rawhide is frozen (or composes are broken) for a

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Red Hat Bugzilla 3.4 Upgrade Public Beta 2

2009-12-11 Thread James Laska
I am sending this on behalf of Dave Lawrence and the bugzilla team at Red Hat. Please forward this on to any appropriate lists that were missed. Greetings, The Red Hat Bugzilla team is happy to announce the second public beta release of the next version of Red Hat Bugzilla based on

Re: Request for help maintaining packages while away.

2009-12-11 Thread Jeff Spaleta
It's making use of some deprecated functionality for example gnomevfs which really should be ported to the newer gvfs stuff. There are probably some pygtk/gtk-isms which need to be updated. I'm willing to carry this as downstream patches if I have to but I really don't want to do that. Less

Re: Request for help maintaining packages while away.

2009-12-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 11:12 -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote: It's making use of some deprecated functionality for example gnomevfs which really should be ported to the newer gvfs stuff. There are probably some pygtk/gtk-isms which need to be updated. I'm willing to carry this as downstream

Re: new webkitgtk incremental release for F12

2009-12-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:02:04 -0800 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 12:38 -0600, Adam Miller wrote: There is currently a new incremental release to webkitgtk (the current release in F12 is 1.1.15-3, latest is 1.1.15-4) and I wanted to shoot out to the list

Re: new webkitgtk incremental release for F12

2009-12-11 Thread Peter Gordon
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 12:38 -0600, Adam Miller wrote: There is currently a new incremental release to webkitgtk (the current release in F12 is 1.1.15-3, latest is 1.1.15-4) and I wanted to shoot out to the list to find out if there is anything that would need a new build against webkitgtk if I

Re: new webkitgtk incremental release for F12

2009-12-11 Thread Adam Miller
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: snip Note that this update does not change ABI. It's a stable bugfix release only... kevin -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list Sorry,

Re: new webkitgtk incremental release for F12

2009-12-11 Thread Adam Miller
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Peter Gordon pe...@thecodergeek.com wrote: SNIP From my own brief testing, Epiphany has no apparent problems with it either. I think it should be fine as an update; but like any other version bump, we'd want to have it in updates-testing for a reasonable

Re: X on UEFI systems.

2009-12-11 Thread Peter Jones
On 12/11/2009 02:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 08:57 +0100, Matěj Cepl wrote: Dne 10.12.2009 07:36, Vasily Levchenko napsal(a): Does it not work without an xorg.conf, that would be the first goal. No. File a bug please, attaching your xorg.conf, Xorg.0.log and output

Re: X on UEFI systems.

2009-12-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 17:14 -0500, Peter Jones wrote: On 12/11/2009 02:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 08:57 +0100, Matěj Cepl wrote: Dne 10.12.2009 07:36, Vasily Levchenko napsal(a): Does it not work without an xorg.conf, that would be the first goal. No. File

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Red Hat Bugzilla 3.4 Upgrade Public Beta 2

2009-12-11 Thread Neal Becker
It doesn't work with konqueror. Neither did it's predecessor. It keeps asking for a password on every page. I am not doing anything with cookies. I have no problem with original bugzilla. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Request for help maintaining packages while away.

2009-12-11 Thread David Malcolm
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 19:39 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 12:38:11PM -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: Jef, I'll help with istanbul. If anyone else out there is considering doing so, please

Outage Notification - 2009-12-12 11:00 UTC

2009-12-11 Thread Mike McGrath
There will be an outage starting at 2009-12-12 11:00 UTC, which will last approximately 48 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2009-12-12 11:00 UTC' Affected Services: Buildsystem CVS / Source Control

Re: Why pavucontrol is not installed by default?

2009-12-11 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le vendredi 11 décembre 2009 à 11:31 -0800, Adam Williamson a écrit : It also encourages lazy interface design - the designer can always think 'well, I'll just make this a checkbox under 'advanced' somewhere', rather than considering how to properly design a single configuration interface.

File Math-Pari-2.01080603.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2009-12-11 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Math-Pari: e5f970b7a351f671e0641fa8266ce770 Math-Pari-2.01080603.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com

rpms/perl-Math-Pari/devel .cvsignore, 1.12, 1.13 perl-Math-Pari.spec, 1.22, 1.23 sources, 1.12, 1.13

2009-12-11 Thread Paul Howarth
Author: pghmcfc Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Math-Pari/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv22556 Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-Math-Pari.spec sources Log Message: Update to 2.01080603 (see Changes for details) Index: .cvsignore

[Bug 539163] FTBFS perl-MooseX-Singleton-0.17-2.fc12

2009-12-11 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539163 --- Comment #9 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2009-12-11 13:21:45 EDT ---

Broken dependencies: perl-RPM2

2009-12-11 Thread buildsys
perl-RPM2 has broken dependencies in the development tree: On x86_64: perl-RPM2-0.68-5.fc13.x86_64 requires librpm.so.0()(64bit) perl-RPM2-0.68-5.fc13.x86_64 requires librpmio.so.0()(64bit) On i386: perl-RPM2-0.68-5.fc13.i686 requires librpm.so.0

rpms/perl-RPM2/devel perl-RPM2.spec,1.13,1.14

2009-12-11 Thread Lubomir Rintel
Author: lkundrak Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-RPM2/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv25286 Modified Files: perl-RPM2.spec Log Message: * Fri Dec 11 2009 Lubomir Rintel lkund...@v3.sk - 0.68-6 - Rebuild for RPM 4.8.0 Index: perl-RPM2.spec

Perl (and other) packaging talk on FOSDEM

2009-12-11 Thread Gabor Szabo
Hi, I am cross posting this to both the Debian and the Fedora Perl mailing lists. I hope this won't cause problems to either of you. On FOSDEM in Brussels on 6-7 February 2010 there are going to be two rooms for cross-distro talks. I suggested on the FOSDEM mailing list to have a set of talks