Re: Datacenter, git, and cvs

2009-12-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Todd Zullinger t...@pobox.com wrote: Jeff Garzik wrote: If done right, the move to git can still service CVS requests in some capacity...  that may make the transition a little less abrupt and painful. Perhaps.  But git-cvsserver is a rather limited crutch

Yum Cannot retrieve repository metadata error

2009-12-15 Thread Eelko Berkenpies
Hi all, Since my latest rawhide update, performed on Dec 12 (with --skip-broken enabled because of some broken dependencies and a certain laziness on my side), my yum is giving me the following error: Loaded plugins: presto Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository:

Re: Datacenter, git, and cvs

2009-12-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: branches AFAIK. (It's not that awkward, but for developers resisting change... ah, every changed comma is a slight :-) ... ). To be clear, I mean developers with better things to do with their time than dealing

Re: Yum Cannot retrieve repository metadata error

2009-12-15 Thread phenix
I have the same problem. This is what i do to solve it. edit /etc/hosts, add the following hosts 80.239.156.215 mirrors.fedoraproject.org 152.46.7.222download.fedoraproject.org 209.132.183.67 download.fedora.redhat.com use baseurl instead of mirrorlist repos.

Re: Datacenter, git, and cvs

2009-12-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 04:57:03PM -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: Mike Chambers wrote: If I understand what is happening now (and over the past weekend), the datacenter machines are moving to a new location, AND the package building is moving from cvs to git (will be, or already in

Re: Datacenter, git, and cvs

2009-12-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 09:43:33AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 04:57:03PM -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: Mike Chambers wrote: If I understand what is happening now (and over the past weekend), the datacenter machines are moving to a new location, AND the

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 07:21:19PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: In my effort to create a proof of concept for using git to manage our package source control, I have completed what I am calling phase one, that is taking our current dist-cvs and converting it into git format.

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Tim Waugh
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 09:49 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Why not put everything in a single git repository? That would require every packager to check out the entire package set, all revisions, all branches. No thanks. Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Ralf Ertzinger
Hi. On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:21:19 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: In my effort to create a proof of concept for using git to manage our package source control, I have completed what I am calling phase one, that is taking our current dist-cvs and converting it into git format. That's just the

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:06:42AM +, Tim Waugh wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 09:49 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Why not put everything in a single git repository? That would require every packager to check out the entire package set, all revisions, all branches. No thanks. Jesse

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:34:04AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:06:42AM +, Tim Waugh wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 09:49 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Why not put everything in a single git repository? That would require every packager to check out the

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Jon Masters
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 20:22 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 19:21 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: git clone git://publictest5.fedoraproject.org/git/pkgs/kernel This was the wrong path: git clone git://publictest5.fedoraproject.org/pkgs/kernel Can you explain the tags a

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 05:50:05AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:34:04AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:06:42AM +, Tim Waugh wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 09:49 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Why not put everything in a single git

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 05:55:19AM -0500, Jon Masters wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 20:22 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 19:21 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: git clone git://publictest5.fedoraproject.org/git/pkgs/kernel This was the wrong path: git clone

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:59:52AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 05:50:05AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:34:04AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:06:42AM +, Tim Waugh wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 09:49 +,

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Do you have any plan about hooks ? Since 1 package = 1 repository, does that mean package maintainers will be able to define their own hooks ? (bad idea) will we have some pre-defined hooks (like bz integration) ? or something like github webhooks or bitbucket brokers ? H. -- fedora-devel-list

Re: Yum Cannot retrieve repository metadata error

2009-12-15 Thread Eelko Berkenpies
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:32 AM, phenix dalinhu...@gmail.com wrote: I have the same problem. This is what i do to solve it. edit /etc/hosts, add the following hosts 80.239.156.215          mirrors.fedoraproject.org 152.46.7.222            download.fedoraproject.org 209.132.183.67          

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:21:19 -0800 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: pkgs/rpms/package/devel is now the git origin/master. All release subdirs have been turned into git branches. History back to F7, as well as the EPEL branches have been converted, from a snapshot of the CVS tree I

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:49:21 + Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: Also git remote branches are quite painful, requiring non-obvious changes to .git/config or hard to use commands. I'd rather do this once (for an everything-in-one-repository model) than for every single package I

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:24:52 +0100 Ralf Ertzinger fed...@camperquake.de wrote: On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:21:19 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: In my effort to create a proof of concept for using git to manage our package source control, I have completed what I am calling phase one, that is

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:21:19 -0800 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: git://publictest5.fedoraproject.org/git/pkgs/package Give it a spin, see what you think. In two of my packages which go back some time (id3v2, soundtracker), there are two CVS commit authors which are not converted

FUDConF13 videos

2009-12-15 Thread Matt Domsch
I've just posted 2 videos shot at FUDConF13 Toronto last week. I'm afraid I haven't done justice though... 1) Moksha, by Luke Macken. My camera cut out after the first 10 minutes, so that's all we've got. http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/videos/2009/FUDConF13/fudconf13-moksha.ogg 2)

Re: Yum Cannot retrieve repository metadata error

2009-12-15 Thread Matt Domsch
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 05:32:43PM +0800, phenix wrote: I have the same problem. This is what i do to solve it. edit /etc/hosts, add the following hosts 80.239.156.215 mirrors.fedoraproject.org 152.46.7.222download.fedoraproject.org 209.132.183.67

Re: Wiki Feature Dashboard Additional Category

2009-12-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 20:45:36 -0800, John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com wrote: You have an interesting idea about tagging feature pages needing an owner. In reality that pretty much represents all the pages in 'Category:FeaturePageIncomplete' If they had an active owner or developer

packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-15 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
Hello, I feel like there are an increasing number of packages requiring a system reboot. I'm wondering why. The following updates were installed today, and required a full system reboot. I can't seem to find any package in the list that I can conceivably see requiring a reboot, is it that

Re: trouble with signals and skb_rec_datagram()

2009-12-15 Thread Peter Jones
It's likely that some people have not noticed this message because you replied to an unrelated thread instead of starting with a new message entirely. This is best avoided. On 12/14/2009 02:45 PM, William Reich wrote: Hello List... I am working on trying to port a LINUX kernel driver from

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-15 Thread Paul Jakma
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Chris Adams wrote: Have you actually shown any concrete benefits, or has it all just been hand-waving? Well, the benefits were already known from the introduction of 64bit systems in the mid 90s. E.g. a rule of thumb with AXP systems was that they required at least 30%

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-15 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: Hello, I feel like there are an increasing number of packages requiring a system reboot. I'm wondering why. The following updates were installed today, and required a full system reboot. I can't seem to find any package in the list that I

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-15 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On 12/15/2009 09:54 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: Does gdm entirely restart when you logout? I don't believe so. I suspect you get the same result by killing X then going back to that runlevel but for many many many users a reboot is going to be less error-prone. Isn't there gdm-restart for that

Re: FUDConF13 videos

2009-12-15 Thread Matt Domsch
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 09:31:39AM -0600, Matt Domsch wrote: 2) The last 20 minutes of the Fedora Infrastructure: Sysadmins vs. Developers love-in. I'm grateful to whoever shot this, but I've complete blanked on who it was now. I'll be glad to give you attribution, please remind me!

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-15 Thread Nikola Pajkovsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 15.12.2009 18:00, Nathanael D. Noblet napsal(a): On 12/15/2009 09:54 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: Does gdm entirely restart when you logout? I don't believe so. I suspect you get the same result by killing X then going back to that runlevel but for

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-15 Thread Debarshi Ray
I personally think the model used by many Unixes from the 90s makes a lot of sense - 32bit userpace by default, 64bit kernel, 64bit for a select few applications that actually need the benefits of x86_64 (memory/bit more performance), but hey.. Assuming this was the case and somebody decided

KDE-SIG weekly report (51/2009)

2009-12-15 Thread Sebastian Vahl
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply to this email or add it to the related meeting page. -- = Weekly KDE

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 05:55 -0500, Jon Masters wrote: Can you explain the tags a little Jesse? e.g. F-12-split F-12-start I have absolutely no interest in the idea of doing one giant tree btw, though I doubt that will ever get serious traction :) Also, on the subject of branches, can

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 09:49 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Why not put everything in a single git repository? The cost to clone that repo would be enormous. The kernel alone is 57M once cloned, 44 megs across the wire. Also git remote branches are quite painful, requiring non-obvious

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 11:11 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: I was wondering if you could set up some meta repository, which had a GIT sub-module for each package, but it seems sub-modules always have to specify an explicit commit hash so they wouldn't seemlessly follow changes. I briefly

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-15 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: On 12/15/2009 09:54 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: Does gdm entirely restart when you logout? I don't believe so. I suspect you get the same result by killing X then going back to that runlevel but for many many many users a reboot is going to be less

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 15:57 +0100, Hans Ulrich Niedermann wrote: I would presume that the to-be-written package handling tool (the code name is fpkg AFAIR) would set up local tracking branches when... uhm... needed (the exact triggers need to be worked out). It should work out to fpkg

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-15 Thread Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 10:00 -0700, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: On 12/15/2009 09:54 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: Does gdm entirely restart when you logout? I don't believe so. I suspect you get the same result by killing X then going back to that runlevel but for many many many users a reboot is

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-15 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 15/12/09 16:50, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: Hello, I feel like there are an increasing number of packages requiring a system reboot. I'm wondering why. The following updates were installed today, and required a full system reboot. I can't seem to find any package in the list that I can

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 11:24 +0100, Ralf Ertzinger wrote: Hi. On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:21:19 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: In my effort to create a proof of concept for using git to manage our package source control, I have completed what I am calling phase one, that is taking our current

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-15 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Richard Hughes wrote: 2009/12/15 Seth Vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org: Now, having said that - how would you feel if the updater stopped you before it ran and said you're running an app I'm trying to update, please close the app so I can update it. Would that be a pain

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-15 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/12/15 Seth Vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org: Now, having said that - how would you feel if the updater stopped you before it ran and said you're running an app I'm trying to update, please close the app so I can

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 12:15 +0100, Haïkel Guémar wrote: Do you have any plan about hooks ? Since 1 package = 1 repository, does that mean package maintainers will be able to define their own hooks ? (bad idea) will we have some pre-defined hooks (like bz integration) ? or something like

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 15:50 +0100, Hans Ulrich Niedermann wrote: Will older history be available in the final production git repos? This might come in handy for the remaining merge reviews, or for historical purposes, or just be dead weight. I'm not sure which one. I had originally wanted to

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 16:17 +0100, Hans Ulrich Niedermann wrote: In two of my packages which go back some time (id3v2, soundtracker), there are two CVS commit authors which are not converted into proper names of the Firstname Lastname e...@mail variety: cvsextras and gafton. Both CVS

RE: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-15 Thread Otto Haliburton
-Original Message- From: fedora-devel-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-devel-list- boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Colin Walters Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:44 To: Development discussions related to Fedora Subject: Re: packages requiring me to reboot... On Tue,

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Andreas Schwab
Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com writes: Ah, yes, there are going to be a few authors missed. The conversion script just looks for a cvs author name in a file, and that file expands that author name out to Full Name u...@fedoraproject.org. There are also author names that where expanded to

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Todd Zullinger
Andreas Schwab wrote: There are also author names that where expanded to user u...@fedoraproject.org. These are for accounts that have set the private flag, so their name and other data is not available. (Nevermind that they end up putting a name in the rpm changelog most of the time.) --

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 19:01 +0100, Andreas Schwab wrote: There are also author names that where expanded to user u...@fedoraproject.org. Yeah, that might be a privacy thing, not sure if full name can be hidden behind the privacy shield, we might not be able to get to them. That data will

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Todd Zullinger
Jesse Keating wrote: fpkg checkout --full kernel that would give you kernel/devel kernel/F-12 kernel/F-11 etc... where each of those subdirs map to the appropriate origin/F-1? (or in the case of devel, to origin/master). Any git push/pull from those dirs would do the right thing. I'd like

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 13:16 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: I'd like to suggest (again ;) that origin/devel be used. Either that, or use master as the local dir, e.g. kernel/master. Having it differ seems like a recipe for unneeded confusion. I'm willing to listen to other opinions on

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
BTW, please make sure the new system has something like cvs-import (ie put the files in this srpm as new changeset in the vcs, I don't want to know how your vcs works, this is a good srpm just eat it) -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-15 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le mardi 15 décembre 2009 à 16:54 +, Paul Jakma a écrit : I personally think the model used by many Unixes from the 90s makes a lot of sense - 32bit userpace by default, 64bit kernel, 64bit for a select few applications that actually need the benefits of x86_64 (memory/bit more

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-15 Thread Bill Nottingham
Nathanael D. Noblet (nathan...@gnat.ca) said: I'm also curious why gdm is still running once I've logged in. When you start a display manager, you start an X server; the display manager then draws on this. Then, when you log in, you have to stat an user session, as the authenticated user (which

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Todd Zullinger
Jesse Keating wrote: I'm willing to listen to other opinions on this. Personally I'd really rather not change the meaning of origin/master. devel would show up as a directory in the classic view only to match what CVS did. I'd even be willing to make two directories, one a symlink to the

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 19:24 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: BTW, please make sure the new system has something like cvs-import (ie put the files in this srpm as new changeset in the vcs, I don't want to know how your vcs works, this is a good srpm just eat it) Yep, that functionality would

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 13:33 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: My thinking is that we don't use origin/next or origin/maint either and both are common upstream in git and the kernel. While origin/master is common, origin/master isn't common, it's the friggin default. Every single git repo I

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: In my effort to create a proof of concept for using git to manage our package source control, I have completed what I am calling phase one, that is taking our current dist-cvs and converting it into git format. pkgs/rpms/package/devel is now the git

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Tuesday 15 December 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: fpkg checkout --full kernel fpkg checkout kernel fpkg checkout F-12 The first two Google hits I get for fpkg are already two different tools that have something to do with software packaging, so I suggest not adding the third but coming up

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi said: The first two Google hits I get for fpkg are already two different tools that have something to do with software packaging, so I suggest not adding the third but coming up with some other name for this one. fedpak fpak -- Chris Adams

Re: FUDConF13 videos

2009-12-15 Thread Jon Masters
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 09:31 -0600, Matt Domsch wrote: If anyone else has video or audio from this or other Fedora events you'd care to share, please contact me and I'll help you get it into proper ogg format, tagged, and posted to Fedora Infrastructure servers for distribution. You rock :)

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-15 Thread Jon Masters
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 16:54 +, Paul Jakma wrote: On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Chris Adams wrote: Have you actually shown any concrete benefits, or has it all just been hand-waving? Well, the benefits were already known from the introduction of 64bit systems in the mid 90s. E.g. a rule of

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-15 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jon Masters j...@redhat.com said: But again, Apples to Oranges. x86_64 (we should formally call it Intel 64, or similar, since I'm not aware of x86_64 having a formal blessing) Intel 64 has no formal blessing either (it is Intel's marketing name for their copy of AMD's

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 13:32 -0600, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi said: The first two Google hits I get for fpkg are already two different tools that have something to do with software packaging, so I suggest not adding the third but coming up

Re: MariaDB and Fedora

2009-12-15 Thread Benny Amorsen
Nathanael Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca writes: However the setup/configuration of postgreSQL compared to MySQL is basically something easy, versus something where I don't have a clue what is going on, and there are million ways to do it, and when I'm done I have no idea if I'm wide open to the

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:22:35AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 13:16 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: I'd like to suggest (again ;) that origin/devel be used. Either that, or use master as the local dir, e.g. kernel/master. Having it differ seems like a recipe for

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Lorenzo Villani
On Tuesday 15 December 2009 07:33:58 Jesse Keating wrote: Right now? Not all that hard. You'd have to write a script that has all the package names and just cycles over them cloning them one by one. Once we start working on fpkg we'll likely wire something up that gets a list of active

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Lorenzo Villani
Already discussed later in thread. Sorry for unnecessary noise. -- Lorenzo Villani signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 08:22:09PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 19:21 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: git clone git://publictest5.fedoraproject.org/git/pkgs/kernel This was the wrong path: git clone git://publictest5.fedoraproject.org/pkgs/kernel I'm on vacation,

Re: Yum Cannot retrieve repository metadata error

2009-12-15 Thread John Nixon
I have this problem too. I believe the problem is in libcurl 7.19.7-8.fc13. If I downgrade to curl/libcurl 7.19.6-10.fc12 the problem goes away. If I run from a command line: $ curl 'https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=rawhidearch=i386' I now get: curl: (7) Failed to connect to

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 15:49 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: I'm on vacation, but I couldn't resist taking a look-see. Something looks odd. It appears to have collapsed every CVS branch onto the master git branch instead of making a new branch for each CVS branch. Running git log on the master

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:54:44PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 15:49 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: I'm on vacation, but I couldn't resist taking a look-see. Something looks odd. It appears to have collapsed every CVS branch onto the master git branch instead of

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Karel Zak
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:45:54AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 13:33 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: My thinking is that we don't use origin/next or origin/maint either and both are common upstream in git and the kernel. While origin/master is common,

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:05:07 -0500 Dave Jones da...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:54:44PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: What things that were CVS branches are you seeing on origin/master ? run git log, and see all the myoung commits for example. Run git log -p, and you

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-15 Thread drago01
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: Once upon a time, Jon Masters j...@redhat.com said: But again, Apples to Oranges. x86_64 (we should formally call it Intel 64, or similar, since I'm not aware of x86_64 having a formal blessing) Intel 64 has no formal

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 22:16 +0100, Hans Ulrich Niedermann wrote: On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:05:07 -0500 Dave Jones da...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:54:44PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: What things that were CVS branches are you seeing on origin/master ? run git

Re: Wiki Feature Dashboard Additional Category

2009-12-15 Thread Peter Jones
On 12/14/2009 11:45 PM, John Poelstra wrote: You have an interesting idea about tagging feature pages needing an owner. In reality that pretty much represents all the pages in 'Category:FeaturePageIncomplete' If they had an active owner or developer working on the feature they wouldn't be

Re: MariaDB and Fedora

2009-12-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 21:30:50 +0100, Benny Amorsen benny+use...@amorsen.dk wrote: That will give you an installation with quite reasonable defaults including Unix-socket connectivity. Of course then you discover all the PHP toys written for MySQL which can't be told to connect a) by

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-15 Thread Paul Jakma
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Jon Masters wrote: But again, Apples to Oranges. x86_64 (we should formally call it Intel 64, or similar, since I'm not aware of x86_64 having a formal blessing) doesn't have the fixed instruction width that you get on most RISC ISAs. It's not about the instruction set.

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-15 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 09:28:10PM +, Paul Jakma wrote: And again, far from being some incredibly difficult thing that I'm asking for, the support is pretty much 99.9% there.. And the remaining 0.1% of the work is probably the other 99.9% of the time. I think you massively underestimate

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-15 Thread drago01
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Paul Jakma p...@dishone.st wrote:  - I am incredulous at the people who keep arguing that x86-64 is    better because it has PC-relative addressing, or because the ABI    is pass-by-register by default. I am extremely sceptical that    these respondents would

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-15 Thread Paul Jakma
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Paul Jakma wrote: I would like to have the advantages of *both* 32 and 64bit, as and where each one is appropriate. I'd like to be able to use that 30-60% of memory on more VMs, e.g., rather than bigger gnome-*, etc. processes. Ah, and to get the memory benefits, you

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-15 Thread drago01
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Paul Jakma p...@dishone.st wrote: On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Paul Jakma wrote: I would like to have the advantages of *both* 32 and 64bit, as and where each one is appropriate. I'd like to be able to use that 30-60% of memory on more VMs, e.g., rather than bigger

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-15 Thread Clark Williams
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:29:25 -0500 Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Nathanael D. Noblet (nathan...@gnat.ca) said: I'm also curious why gdm is still running once I've logged in. When you start a display manager, you start an X server; the display manager then draws on this. Then,

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-15 Thread nodata
Am 2009-12-15 17:50, schrieb Nathanael D. Noblet: Hello, I feel like there are an increasing number of packages requiring a system reboot. I'm wondering why. The following updates were installed today, and required a full system reboot. I can't seem to find any package in the list that I can

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-15 Thread Paul Jakma
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Matthew Garrett wrote: And the remaining 0.1% of the work is probably the other 99.9% of the time. I think you massively underestimate the number of corner cases present in an utterly untested configuration. My data-point is that I ran an x86-64 kernel on i386 F10 for a

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-15 Thread Paul Jakma
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Paul Jakma wrote: My data-point is that I ran an x86-64 kernel on i386 F10 for a few months until I got tired of yum not being able to update kernel packages. The kernel side apparently works fine AFAICT. The .1% is yum. Oh, I don't quite remember the details, but I

Re: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-15 Thread Mail Lists
On 12/15/2009 12:42 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: this is what colin and I talked about at fudcon in toronto. I just added some code to yum so it returns to you a list of all pkgs on the system that own a file that is currently open/used in a running process. should make that part of your lookup

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-15 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Paul Jakma p...@dishone.st said: My data-point is that I ran an x86-64 kernel on i386 F10 for a few months until I got tired of yum not being able to update kernel packages. The kernel side apparently works fine AFAICT. The .1% is yum. No, it's the whole development

RE: packages requiring me to reboot...

2009-12-15 Thread Jon Masters
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 12:01 -0600, Otto Haliburton wrote: I am not sure what the argument is, factually there are packages that have files open, locks and etc. that need to be shutdown to update, if they are running and you replace the executable, doesn't mean that the memory image is

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 1 complete

2009-12-15 Thread Jon Masters
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 12:35 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: master makes a lot of sense from a git perspective. devel (or rawhide) makes sense from what we actually call the code that that branch eventually makes. A symlink might alleviate the confusion but it could also add to it. (For

rpms/perl-BDB/F-12 .cvsignore,1.6,1.7 sources,1.7,1.8

2009-12-15 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
Author: kwizart Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-BDB/F-12 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv7765 Modified Files: .cvsignore sources Log Message: Update missing source Index: .cvsignore === RCS file:

File Params-Validate-0.94.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by corsepiu

2009-12-15 Thread corsepiu
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Params-Validate: 86da1b8ad762063913f454f81b42a816 Params-Validate-0.94.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com

rpms/perl-Params-Validate/devel .cvsignore, 1.14, 1.15 perl-Params-Validate.spec, 1.25, 1.26 sources, 1.14, 1.15

2009-12-15 Thread corsepiu
Author: corsepiu Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Params-Validate/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv16531/devel Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-Params-Validate.spec sources Log Message: * Thu Dec 15 2009 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 0.94-1 - Upstream

rpms/perl-Params-Validate/F-11 .cvsignore, 1.14, 1.15 perl-Params-Validate.spec, 1.23, 1.24 sources, 1.14, 1.15

2009-12-15 Thread corsepiu
Author: corsepiu Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Params-Validate/F-11 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv16531/F-11 Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-Params-Validate.spec sources Log Message: * Thu Dec 15 2009 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 0.94-1 - Upstream

rpms/perl-Params-Validate/F-12 .cvsignore, 1.14, 1.15 perl-Params-Validate.spec, 1.24, 1.25 sources, 1.14, 1.15

2009-12-15 Thread corsepiu
Author: corsepiu Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Params-Validate/F-12 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv16531/F-12 Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-Params-Validate.spec sources Log Message: * Thu Dec 15 2009 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 0.94-1 - Upstream

rpms/perl-Math-BigInt-GMP/devel perl-Math-BigInt-GMP.spec,1.4,1.5

2009-12-15 Thread Štěpán Kasal
Author: kasal Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Math-BigInt-GMP/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv17377 Modified Files: perl-Math-BigInt-GMP.spec Log Message: - skip check in distributions with perl-5.8 Index: perl-Math-BigInt-GMP.spec

rpms/perl-Math-BigInt-GMP/EL-4 .cvsignore,1.1,1.2 sources,1.1,1.2

2009-12-15 Thread Štěpán Kasal
Author: kasal Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Math-BigInt-GMP/EL-4 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv17680 Modified Files: .cvsignore sources Log Message: import from rawhide Index: .cvsignore === RCS

rpms/perl-Math-BigInt-GMP/EL-5 .cvsignore,1.1,1.2 sources,1.1,1.2

2009-12-15 Thread Štěpán Kasal
Author: kasal Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Math-BigInt-GMP/EL-5 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv17924 Modified Files: .cvsignore sources Log Message: import from rawhide Index: .cvsignore === RCS

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