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On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:25 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen
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On 06/18/2009 04:41 AM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
No particular reason with a traceable track record, but I've understood
that anything that is not composed with pungi or livecd-tools will be
blocked as they are the blessed and preferred tools for the job(s).
You use whatever tool you want
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 15:17:28 Jesse Keating wrote:
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 15:14 -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote:
I thought an official spin could only be a live image. i.e., once you
start letting the user choose packages in anaconda, it can't be an
official spin anymore. At least, I'm pretty
We've seen arguments, for and against.
Statistics and Numbers, thinking!
Get the community involved.
*Find Out*
As I've stated earlier:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-June/msg01015.html
Run a poll, get the fp.o to run a poll, and blog\twitter etc.
*Don't ask pointed
Thomas Janssen on 06/17/2009 03:19 AM wrote:
Ubuntu Alternative Thats not a LiveCD. It's just a install CD. No Live.
So? Your point? A Fedora LiveCD is an install CD.
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Jeroen van Meeuwen (kana...@kanarip.com) said:
Something else not terribly unreasonable, instead of split CD media, a
single CD offered that is netinst.iso plus the contents of @core and
@base if it'll fit on a CD. Then they can do whatever custom install
they want, and add packages
- Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote:
So? Your point? A Fedora LiveCD is an install CD.
There are several points that I hope will be taken from the entire thread.
Some people do not like the LiveCD install option, or lack of options as they
may see it.
The point I failed to
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 14:01:02 Bill Nottingham wrote:
Jeroen van Meeuwen (kana...@kanarip.com) said:
Something else not terribly unreasonable, instead of split CD media, a
single CD offered that is netinst.iso plus the contents of @core and
@base if it'll fit on a CD. Then they can
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 15:14 -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote:
I thought an official spin could only be a live image. i.e., once you
start letting the user choose packages in anaconda, it can't be an
official spin anymore. At least, I'm pretty sure that was the case a
while back, unless the guidelines
2009/6/17 Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com:
Thomas Janssen on 06/17/2009 03:19 AM wrote:
Ubuntu Alternative Thats not a LiveCD. It's just a install CD. No Live.
So? Your point? A Fedora LiveCD is an install CD.
My point.. It is/was obviously that you dont know what an alternative
CD is. So
Thomas Janssen on 06/17/2009 03:25 PM wrote:
My point.. It is/was obviously that you dont know what an alternative
CD is. So i explained it to you. But i failed. Maybe you grab one in
your spare time and check out the alternative installation
possibilities, compared to a LiveCD. VM`s are
Jesse Keating wrote:
And this is what pisses me off, and why I say you're holding us hostage.
Whether or not it is a good idea to continue to produce them, you don't
care, you're just going to do it anyway. Great way to run a project.
Just drop support for split media from Anaconda, then they
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.atwrote:
Seth Vidal wrote:
1. we're going to need split media for dvds - we're SOL there anyway - so
the code will need to live on.
Just kick out all the i18n stuff and you won't.
It doesn't make sense to force people to
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 8:22 AM, King InuYashangomp...@gmail.com wrote:
Ubuntu seems to do fine including quite a few language packs on their LiveCD
while providing a decent desktop.
Can you make me a full accurate list of the languages supported on the
Ubuntu LiveCD.
-jef
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- Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
No, we could just drop support for it and have FedoraUnity decide
whether
they want to fork Anaconda (and no longer be able to use the Fedora
name)
or just stop shipping split media.
Kevin Kofler
Rock on, let this be an example
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
- Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
No, we could just drop support for it and have FedoraUnity decide
whether
they want to fork Anaconda (and no longer be able to use the Fedora
name)
or just stop shipping split media.
I wrote:
No, we could just drop support for it and have FedoraUnity decide whether
they want to fork Anaconda (and no longer be able to use the Fedora name)
or just stop shipping split media.
and one of the FedoraUnity folks responded by posting a rant on his blog
about how I am against the
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 01:01 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
The question is not *if* Fedora Unity would take on that burden, the
question is whether upstream will let us.
Upstream accepts reasonable patches. It happens all the time. Of
course, what also happens all the time is multiple
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 00:30 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
Your signature promotes freedom^2 but this pisses you off?
The reasoning behind it is what irks me. It really seems to come down
to I'm just going to do it so neener neener neener :p
Whether or not it is a good idea to continue
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:11:11 -0700, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com
wrote:
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 01:01 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
The question is not *if* Fedora Unity would take on that burden, the
question is whether upstream will let us.
Upstream accepts reasonable patches. It
Please read my clarification in the thread:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-June/msg01389.html
to see what I'm really up to.
Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
Rock on, let this be an example of the leadership the community can expect
if Kevin is elected. Hold the community
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:15:54 -0700, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com
wrote:
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 00:30 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
Your signature promotes freedom^2 but this pisses you off?
The reasoning behind it is what irks me. It really seems to come down
to I'm just going to do
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 01:37 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
Dear Jesse,
you yourself do not accept patches beyond what you then, at that moment,
think are applicable use-cases of Fedora Project Release Engineering only
to work something up yourself two weeks later.
Yes, if I didn't like
Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
We've also seen upstream reject very reasonable patches -that were in the
upstream repo already, authored by @redhat.com of course- be cherry-picked
to another branch for whatever reason I've offered to help with (some QA
concerns for one).
That's the other side of
On 6/16/09, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Jesse Keating wrote:
I honestly don't care whether or not it's influenced by what I think. I
just wish you project put some thought and effort into discovering why
people ask for or download split CDs other than just shutting off
Jesse Keating wrote:
Yes, if I didn't like the patch, or how it was done, I didn't accept it.
Just like any other upstream. Did I use your exact code when I did it
myself two weeks later? Probably not.
Speaking of rel-eng patches, what happened to my patch to the EVR checker to
properly
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:48:07 -0700, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com
wrote:
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 01:37 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
Dear Jesse,
you yourself do not accept patches beyond what you then, at that moment,
think are applicable use-cases of Fedora Project Release
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 02:05 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Speaking of rel-eng patches, what happened to my patch to the EVR checker to
properly support testing repos (e.g. updates-testing, but the code is
general enough to also work for things like RPM Fusion's or EPEL's testing
repos)?
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 01:43 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
If by better alternatives you mean LiveCDs, please note that these do not
allow one to upgrade the existing Fedora installation, nor do they allow as
much flexibility in configuration during the installation procedure.
Any upgrade
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 02:38 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
User: I only have a CD-ROM, what do I do?
Fedora: We know you wanted to install a different set of packages, but
here's a LiveCD that you can then tweak after the installation, to get the
packages you originally wanted. Ohw, and
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:56:58 -0700, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com
wrote:
Something else not terribly unreasonable, instead of split CD media, a
single CD offered that is netinst.iso plus the contents of @core and
@base if it'll fit on a CD. Then they can do whatever custom install
they
Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
For as far as Fedora is concerned (not third party repositories) at least
it seems obvious that our update process is somewhat flawed in this
aspect, breaking the upgrade path.
And that's why preupgrade exists.
Any upgrading method not relying on the network will
Adam Miller maxamill...@gmail.com wrote:
Jesse Keating wrote:
I honestly don't care whether or not it's influenced by what I think. I
just wish you project put some thought and effort into discovering why
people ask for or download split CDs other than just shutting off your
brain at
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:34:37 -0700, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com
wrote:
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 17:54 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
If Fedora Unity's motivation to continue a service to the community -at
it's own expense, not yours- is holding you and the other teams hostage,
call
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:20:09 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen
kana...@kanarip.com
wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 08:37:41 -0700, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com
wrote:
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 03:30 -0500, King InuYasha wrote:
A script that takes the DVD image to produce the CD versions would
basically
Jeremy Katz pisze:
On Saturday, June 13 2009, Jussi Lehtola said:
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 11:12 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 07:04:12PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote:
Hmm, I'd want netboot.img back, since I normally use a USB stick to
start the network install (OK, there is
On Sunday, June 14 2009, Chris Adams said:
Once upon a time, Jeremy Katz ka...@redhat.com said:
See the livecd-iso-to-pxeboot script, although it does place some
(somewhat) different requirements on things.
AFAIK livecd-iso-to-pxeboot is useless for 32 bit, at least for the
standard
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 12:18 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote:
boot.iso/netinst.iso
What's the difference between these two by the way?
There isn't one. However old virt-manager tools look for a boot.iso
instead of a netinst.iso, so when we tried to rename this iso to match
reality (it has
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 08:04 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
Fedora Project decides to not ship
split media anymore, will do it, regardless of how valuable you or anyone
else outside Fedora Unity thinks it is.
And this is what pisses me off, and why I say you're holding us hostage.
Whether or
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:30:49AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 21:31 -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote:
Also, I want to look a bit more at isohybrid to see if we can build iso
images that can just be dd'd, at least for the case of
boot.iso/netinst.iso
Can you tell me more
- Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
And this is what pisses me off, and why I say you're holding us
hostage.
Whether or not it is a good idea to continue to produce them, you
don't
care, you're just going to do it anyway. Great way to run a project.
Jesse,
Both Fedora
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Bradley Baetz bba...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14/06/09 04:53, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
- Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com wrote:
Just curious.
But if a user has bandwidth problems, how is\are mutiple CD's going
to help, or is it purely on hardware
On 14/06/09 04:47, Jesse Keating wrote:
Don't be clouded by who is requesting it. Releng qa anaconda et al
would love to stop doing split cds. Less confusion on what to download
would be appreciated by many too. We are one of the last distros to
still do cd media outside of live media. Is this
On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:30, King InuYasha ngomp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Bradley Baetz bba...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 14/06/09 04:53, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
- Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com wrote:
Just curious.
But if a user has bandwidth problems, how
- King InuYasha ngomp...@gmail.com wrote:
A script that takes the DVD image to produce the CD versions would
basically require extracting the whole DVD image and then generating
new ISOs from that tree. Maybe mirrors could do it if you want to save
space on the main server or whatever.
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 14:53 +, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
I appreciate the clarification from you and Matt on the request. As
you know Jesse my, and Unity's, goal has been for a while has been to
get Fedora in to the hands of as many people as possible with the
least amount of pain. That
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 03:30 -0500, King InuYasha wrote:
A script that takes the DVD image to produce the CD versions would basically
require extracting the whole DVD image and then generating new ISOs from
that tree. Maybe mirrors could do it if you want to save space on the main
server or
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:34:19 +, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com
wrote:
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 14:53 +, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
I appreciate the clarification from you and Matt on the request. As
you know Jesse my, and Unity's, goal has been for a while has been to
get Fedora in
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 08:37:41 -0700, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com
wrote:
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 03:30 -0500, King InuYasha wrote:
A script that takes the DVD image to produce the CD versions would
basically
require extracting the whole DVD image and then generating new ISOs from
that
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:58:36 + (UTC), Robert 'Bob' Jensen
b...@fedoraunity.org wrote:
- King InuYasha ngomp...@gmail.com wrote:
A script that takes the DVD image to produce the CD versions would
basically require extracting the whole DVD image and then generating
new ISOs from that
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 17:54 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
If Fedora Unity's motivation to continue a service to the community -at
it's own expense, not yours- is holding you and the other teams hostage,
call S.W.A.T.
If it was just Fedora Unity's expense that'd be one thing. But it's
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 18:20 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
If the Fedora Project considers to no longer release split CD media, would
the Fedora Project then also consider allowing Fedora Unity (members) to
continue servicing those that request or even require split CD media? If
that is too
Once upon a time, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com said:
If there are those that require split media, I'd much prefer that we as
a project produce and test the split media as part of our normal
development cycle, and not do it as some after thought after it's too
late to fix any problems
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.netwrote:
On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:30, King InuYasha ngomp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Bradley Baetz bba...@gmail.com
bba...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14/06/09 04:53, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
-
On Saturday, June 13 2009, Jussi Lehtola said:
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 11:12 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 07:04:12PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote:
Hmm, I'd want netboot.img back, since I normally use a USB stick to
start the network install (OK, there is the possibility
On Sunday, June 14 2009, King InuYasha said:
Also, maybe we should support PXE/network booting the Live version from
mirrors or whatever with the advent of netbooks and other computers without
an optical drive. While doing it via USB is preferable, it is not always
possible. For example I have
Once upon a time, Jeremy Katz ka...@redhat.com said:
See the livecd-iso-to-pxeboot script, although it does place some
(somewhat) different requirements on things.
AFAIK livecd-iso-to-pxeboot is useless for 32 bit, at least for the
standard Fedora LiveCD images. I think the kernel will only
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 08:46 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
(Reposting to f-d-l from my blog post last night.
http://domsch.com/blog/?p=85 includes a couple nice graphs to help
illustrate.)
CDs are Dead. Long live CDs.
I was running some stats on the Fedora 11 release, and an interesting
thing
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 01:09:52AM -0400, James Antill wrote:
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 08:46 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
(Reposting to f-d-l from my blog post last night.
http://domsch.com/blog/?p=85 includes a couple nice graphs to help
illustrate.)
CDs are Dead. Long live CDs.
I was
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 00:24 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 01:09:52AM -0400, James Antill wrote:
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 08:46 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
(Reposting to f-d-l from my blog post last night.
http://domsch.com/blog/?p=85 includes a couple nice graphs to help
On 06/15/2009 11:15 AM, Jon Masters wrote:
The only counterpoint I came up with was that of folks in parts of the
world who don't have access to modern hardware and don't have broadband.
Yes but they prefer Live CD or regular DVD images usually. Magazines
tend to distribute DVD image.
(Reposting to f-d-l from my blog post last night.
http://domsch.com/blog/?p=85 includes a couple nice graphs to help
illustrate.)
CDs are Dead. Long live CDs.
I was running some stats on the Fedora 11 release, and an interesting
thing caught my eye. Very few people are downloading the six (or in
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 08:46 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
Your thoughts?
If we don't do split CDs, Fedora Unity is likely to do them. If we
don't produce and test split media as part of our beta/release cycle,
we'll likely not find bugs with their usage until after the release is
made and Fedora
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 09:34 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Matt Domsch matt_dom...@dell.com said:
CDs had their place, back when DVD readers weren't commonplace, and
before we had LiveCD/LiveUSB medias. Now, DVDs are fairly common, the
LiveCDs work great for a lot of installs,
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 07:04:12PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote:
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 09:34 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Matt Domsch matt_dom...@dell.com said:
CDs had their place, back when DVD readers weren't commonplace, and
before we had LiveCD/LiveUSB medias. Now, DVDs
Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com writes:
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 08:46 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
Your thoughts?
If we don't do split CDs, Fedora Unity is likely to do them.
Are we sure about that? The reasons not to bother would be just as
strong for Unity, no?
If we
don't produce and test
- Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
Are we sure about that? The reasons not to bother would be just as
strong for Unity, no?
I agree with that chain of reasoning, but am not convinced of the
starting premise.
OK lets remove any doubt, if Fedora Project does not produce them Fedora
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 11:12 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 07:04:12PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote:
Hmm, I'd want netboot.img back, since I normally use a USB stick to
start the network install (OK, there is the possibility of using
livecd-iso-to-disk, but that's a lot more
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Robert 'Bob'
Jensenb...@fedoraunity.org wrote:
OK lets remove any doubt, if Fedora Project does not produce them Fedora
Unity will if at all possible. The last time the CD media was dropped the
crys and screams of terror from the third world that have never
the user's still able to install using netboot.iso.
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Robert 'Bob' Jensenb...@fedoraunity.org
wrote:
- Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
Are we sure about that? The reasons not to bother would be just as
strong for Unity, no?
I agree with that chain of
Once upon a time, Robert Marcano rob...@marcanoonline.com said:
I think you are right about x86_64 probably is going to have a DVD
Rom, I only have needed the CDs when installing i386 servers isolated
from the internet.
Remember, the minimum CPU for 32-bit x86 today is i586 (Pentium), and
IIRC
- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
Remember, the minimum CPU for 32-bit x86 today is i586 (Pentium), and
IIRC there was discussion about rebuilding for i686 (Pentium Pro).
If we really want to decrease the mirror foot print how about we off load some
of the 640MB+ data and docs
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Chris Adamscmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
Remember, the minimum CPU for 32-bit x86 today is i586 (Pentium), and
IIRC there was discussion about rebuilding for i686 (Pentium Pro).
You are technically right , but I am talking about the Fedora release
Tag (that was
- Itamar Reis Peixoto ita...@ispbrasil.com.br wrote:
the user's still able to install using netboot.iso.
Yeah some guy in a mud hut with no DSL only a 56k modem, Power 4 hours a day...
NetInst FAIL.
I remember Seth talking a while back about yum's performance. As I remember,
sure
On 13/06/09 19:22, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
- Itamar Reis Peixotoita...@ispbrasil.com.br wrote:
the user's still able to install using netboot.iso.
Yeah some guy in a mud hut with no DSL only a 56k modem, Power 4 hours a day...
NetInst FAIL.
Just curious.
But if a user has
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com wrote:
Just curious.
But if a user has bandwidth problems,
how is\are mutiple CD's going to help,
or is it purely on hardware grounds, no dvd-rom.
No/slow internet is commonly followed by old hardware, it is a common
- Robert Marcano rob...@marcanoonline.com wrote:
No/slow internet is commonly followed by old hardware, it is a common
combination in my country. Recently on Fedora Venezuela mailing list
we were discussing creating a special respin just because of the
bandwidth problem here
These are
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Matt Domschmatt_dom...@dell.com wrote:
Your thoughts?
Is there a geographic regional bias in the data?
1) Are all countries/regions downloading the split cds at less than 5%
of the download activity for the given country region?
2) Is there a geographical
- Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
Just curious.
But if a user has bandwidth problems,
how is\are mutiple CD's going to help,
or is it purely on hardware grounds, no dvd-rom.
Does no one remember what happened last time the CD ball was dropped? Lets not
repeat history just
Once upon a time, Robert 'Bob' Jensen b...@fedoraunity.org said:
I remember Seth talking a while back about yum's performance. As I remember,
sure yum worked fine on his computers but try it on the OLPC. He then
understood what the bugs and complaints were about.
Uh, OLPC doesn't have a CD
Jesse Keating wrote:
If we don't do split CDs, Fedora Unity is likely to do them. If we
don't produce and test split media as part of our beta/release cycle,
we'll likely not find bugs with their usage until after the release is
made and Fedora Unity attempts to make them. As long as
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Robert 'Bob'
Jensenb...@fedoraunity.org wrote:
Does no one remember what happened last time the CD ball was dropped? Lets
not repeat history just for fun. We have been down this road before, it
was ugly and only lasted one release. Torrent tracker numbers BTW
Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
Yeah some guy in a mud hut with no DSL only a 56k modem, Power 4 hours a
day... NetInst FAIL.
We can't support everything. I'm sure there are some people still using a
486, we already don't support them anymore.
A reasonably fast Internet connection is basically
- Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
If Fedora Unity wants to create them, the burden of making them work
should
be on them.
If Fedora Project will not or can not give the community what it needs that is
where the community steps up, this is exactly what we did for Fedora 7.
Robert Marcano rob...@marcanoonline.com writes:
I think you are right about x86_64 probably is going to have a DVD
Rom, I only have needed the CDs when installing i386 servers isolated
from the internet. I think we should start considering the option to
ship the net install ISO as a hard disk
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 09:04:30PM +, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
- Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
If Fedora Unity wants to create them, the burden of making them work
should
be on them.
If Fedora Project will not or can not give the community what it
needs
Don't be clouded by who is requesting it. Releng qa anaconda et al
would love to stop doing split cds. Less confusion on what to
download would be appreciated by many too. We are one of the last
distros to still do cd media outside of live media. Is this a case of
users not knowing
On 14/06/09 04:53, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote:
- Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com wrote:
Just curious.
But if a user has bandwidth problems, how is\are mutiple CD's going
to help, or is it purely on hardware grounds, no dvd-rom.
Does no one remember what happened last time the CD ball
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