Re: Heads up: NoArch Sub Packages Feature continues

2009-06-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Seth Vidal wrote: Just to be clear - you're okay with writing things off as a bug in the repo but you're unhappy saying not obsoleteing the older pkg on an arch-change is a packaging bug? Yes, I'm entirely serious. A package should never have to obsolete an older version of itself.

Re: Heads up: NoArch Sub Packages Feature continues

2009-06-16 Thread John5342
2009/6/15 Seth Vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Rex Dieter wrote: Seth Vidal wrote: So if you're on x86_64 and you have foo-1.1.i386 and foo-1.0.x86_64 and you run: yum install foo you would expect foo-1.1.i386 to be installed instead of foo-1.0.x86_64?

Re: Heads up: NoArch Sub Packages Feature continues

2009-06-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Seth Vidal wrote: read that again? You would expect higher ver i386 to install over x86_64 ON an x86_64 box? I'd expect that too. There's certainly a reason why the current version is not available natively, if not, it's a bug in the repo. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing

Re: Heads up: NoArch Sub Packages Feature continues

2009-06-16 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Seth Vidal wrote: read that again? You would expect higher ver i386 to install over x86_64 ON an x86_64 box? I'd expect that too. There's certainly a reason why the current version is not available natively, if not, it's a bug in the

Heads up: NoArch Sub Packages Feature continues

2009-06-15 Thread Florian Festi
Hi everyone! The Noarch Sub Package Feature continues in F12. I just updated the package lists and statistics on the Feature page[1]. I want to thank all the brave package maintainers that converted some of their sub packages in the short time frame before the F11 freeze and so gave us a test

Re: Heads up: NoArch Sub Packages Feature continues

2009-06-15 Thread Jerry James
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Florian Festiffe...@redhat.com wrote: The Noarch Sub Package Feature continues in F12. I just updated the package lists and statistics on the Feature page[1]. I want to thank all the brave package maintainers that converted some of their sub packages in the

Re: Heads up: NoArch Sub Packages Feature continues

2009-06-15 Thread Florian Festi
Seth Vidal wrote: Other people's noarch subpackages? Shouldn't they have obsoletes in place, too? I know it's hard to grok but for all intents and purposes a arch change is A LOT like a package rename. I like to disagree. I really see no reason why an obsolete should be needed here. Sure

Re: Heads up: NoArch Sub Packages Feature continues

2009-06-15 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Florian Festi wrote: Seth Vidal wrote: Other people's noarch subpackages? Shouldn't they have obsoletes in place, too? I know it's hard to grok but for all intents and purposes a arch change is A LOT like a package rename. I like to disagree. I really see no reason

Re: Heads up: NoArch Sub Packages Feature continues

2009-06-15 Thread Jochen Schmitt
Am 15.06.2009 16:19, schrieb Florian Festi: Please check your packages[2] whether they can make use of this feature and add your changed packages to the list[3]. I have reread the list of the candidates for noarch sub packages on your list. I wan't to notifiy, that the creation of the

Re: Heads up: NoArch Sub Packages Feature continues

2009-06-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 06/15/2009 07:19 AM, Florian Festi wrote: There is one more thing left: Noarch sub packages should - most likely - be reflected in the Packaging and the Package Review Guidelines. I - as a RPM developer - really don't have a opinion how the Fedora Guidelines should look like and I also

Re: Heads up: NoArch Sub Packages Feature continues

2009-06-15 Thread devzero2000
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/15/2009 07:19 AM, Florian Festi wrote: I've been thinking about proposing a Guideline that says header files should not be placed in noarch packages. Header files can contain architecture specific bits. We

Re: Heads up: NoArch Sub Packages Feature continues

2009-06-15 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Rex Dieter wrote: Seth Vidal wrote: It's not about the upgrade process. It is only about compare_providers. You have 3 pkgs providing 'foo' foo-1.1.noarch foo-1.0.x86_64 foo-1.0.i386 Which one do you pick on x86_64 or i686? We weight extra toward pkgs in the same

Re: Heads up: NoArch Sub Packages Feature continues

2009-06-15 Thread Ben Boeckel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Seth Vidal wrote: On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Rex Dieter wrote: Seth Vidal wrote: It's not about the upgrade process. It is only about compare_providers. You have 3 pkgs providing 'foo' foo-1.1.noarch foo-1.0.x86_64 foo-1.0.i386 Which one

Re: Heads up: NoArch Sub Packages Feature continues

2009-06-15 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Ben Boeckel wrote: A special exemption for noarch in arch compares and version differences? If it's between some arch and noarch, defer to the version checker. Yes, as I explained on irc, it's doable - but where it gets implemented (and what else it breaks) is not as

Re: Heads up: NoArch Sub Packages Feature continues

2009-06-15 Thread Rex Dieter
Seth Vidal wrote: On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Rex Dieter wrote: Seth Vidal wrote: It's not about the upgrade process. It is only about compare_providers. You have 3 pkgs providing 'foo' foo-1.1.noarch foo-1.0.x86_64 foo-1.0.i386 Which one do you pick on x86_64 or i686? We weight