Re: Action requested: check dist tags and conditionals

2009-06-04 Thread Peter Robinson
- If you're using open ended conditionals such as: %if 0%{?fedora} 9   make sure you keep in mind what will happen if %{fedora} isn't defined,   such as in the case of a derivative distribution. - If you're building for EPEL from a unified Fedora spec file, and have   separate %{fedora}

Re: Action requested: check dist tags and conditionals

2009-06-04 Thread Peter Robinson
Can someone suggest how I should do this? I'm not sure who put this in my spec file! # for eggs %if 0%{?fedora} = 8 BuildRequires:  python-setuptools-devel %else BuildRequires:  python-setuptools %endif Is it safe to drop the conditional now and always expect python-setup-devel to be

Re: F10 updates-testing - F11 updates-testing yum upgrade issue

2009-06-10 Thread Peter Robinson
When trying to do a yum upgrade from 10 updates-testing to 11 updates-testing, I get the following: This is due to F11 updates-testing 'vte' package including a newer version of libvte, but the previous version was not retained.  Could someone push a rebuild of gnome-terminal,

Re: USB autosuspend in F12

2009-06-10 Thread Peter Robinson
issue is more about letting the *bus* power down. How much we save will depend on the specific bus layout on a given machine, and also whether we can successfully autosuspend all of the drivers. Modern machines are full of (mostly empty) buses, so there is hope the gain will not be

Re: Pkgdb 0.4 update scheduled for Monday

2009-06-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Toshio Kuratomia.bad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Assuming all goes well with an account system upgrade this week, we're going to be updating the PackageDB to 0.4 on Monday, June 10.  An outage notification will go out later that tells the exact times.  This is

Re: Push?

2009-06-15 Thread Peter Robinson
As a side note, is this impacting override tagging, as well?  (I'm not sure if the two functions are related.) They're unrelated. Is there a different problem with the override tagging then? Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Push?

2009-06-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:34:32PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Is there a different problem with the override tagging then? Yes.  Mostly getting people to do them. FYI, you can ping rdieter for override tags. Peter Robinson, if you're thinking of webkitgtk-1.1.8-1.fc11, SMParrish asked

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12

2009-06-17 Thread Peter Robinson
Gregory Maxwell (gmaxw...@gmail.com) said: I doubt having consistently lower FP precision is anything many users are asking for. The few that do can usually take care of themselves. And yet you say we should push them all to x86_64, which has the same lower precision? - More clearly

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12

2009-06-17 Thread Peter Robinson
PLEASE do not do this. If we stop supporting Pentium II and Pentium III, I have to buy a whole lot of new hardware.   Dead serious. Could we do i686 as a secondary arch, and swap with i386 further in the future? While I understand you may have a lot of older hardware, the point of a

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12

2009-06-17 Thread Peter Robinson
BTW are those new VIA netbooks SSE2-capable? Additionally, what will this do to RHEL?  I can't imagine RHEL customers being too happy about this for RHEL7(?), and if i386 would still be in RHEL, it would worry me that it would only be a secondary arch in Fedora. . . This is not relevant

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12

2009-06-17 Thread Peter Robinson
- Intel i586 (all) - Intel Pentium Pro - Intel Pentium II - Intel Pentium III - 32-bit AMD Athlon As an ambassador, it's going to be hard to explain people that I can't install Fedora 12 on their computers that still run Windows XP, Ubuntu and others perfectly fine. We see 32 bit Athlon

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12

2009-06-17 Thread Peter Robinson
Gregory Maxwell (gmaxw...@gmail.com) said: 'outside'. Please don't just dismiss these recent systems, they are a real issue. According to public smolt stats:        http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/static/stats/stats.html only 0.38% of the userbase is non-Intel/AMD. (Number of registered

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12

2009-06-17 Thread Peter Robinson
Now where does the i686+SSE2 come into play? Does this SSE2 have any effect on those programs that do not contain SSE(2) related assembly code? Is this 1-2% improvement that you are mentioning only about these kind of programs (that do not contain assembly code)? One advantage of SSE2 is

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12

2009-06-17 Thread Peter Robinson
Removing support for still-functional hardware is a trademark of Microsoft, not Linux. I'd also argue that doing another full rebuild of the OS for a 1% performance gain on a single architecture is not a particularly production use of resources. The 1% comes from i586 - i686; SSE2 would be

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12 (#2)

2009-06-17 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi,   On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 01:52:26PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:   - Build all packages for i686 (this requires cmov)   This cuts out AMD Geode ... That's not true; Geode has cmov, and should be compatible with gcc's i686. Agreed, I've run i686 kernel/openssl on a geode based

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12

2009-06-17 Thread Peter Robinson
The OLPC folks have made a commitment use Fedora as the base for future releases for not only the XO-1.0 but for the new XO-1.5 which is still in development. Does use Fedora as the base mean they'll be using binary packages as is from Fedora, without rebuilding them? Yes! The vast majority

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12 (#2)

2009-06-18 Thread Peter Robinson
- We don't really support i586 in any meaningful matter What does this mean?  Does Fedora not run on i586?  Why was there a mass-rebuild for i586 if it doesn't work? I know of *no one* in the community who tests on i586 to ensure that it works. (If this drags them out of silence, so be

Re: BTRFS in 2.6.31-rcwhatever

2009-06-18 Thread Peter Robinson
At some point in the next few weeks this kernel will land in rawhide. I will try and make sure btrfs-progs-0.19 goes out at the same time. The new btrfs-progs isn't essential for running the new format, so if you just install the kernel you will be fine, but obviously some of the commands may

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12

2009-06-18 Thread Peter Robinson
I'm not sure I understand why not.  Are you saying that if RedHat decided that RHEL7 was to support Sparc , there'd be no interest in making that a primary arch? ppc/ppc64 is supported in RHEL.  It is no longer a primary arch in Fedora. Sorry? I thought it was still primary until after F-12.

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12 (#2)

2009-06-18 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi,     On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 01:52:26PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:     - Build all packages for i686 (this requires cmov)     This cuts out AMD Geode ... That's not true; Geode has cmov, and should be compatible with gcc's i686. It does work - I have CentOS 5.3 installed currently

Re: rawhide report: 20090619 changes

2009-06-19 Thread Peter Robinson
mono-tools-2.4.2-1.fc12 --- * Tue Jun 09 2009 Paul F. Johnson p...@all-the-johnsons.co.uk - 2.4.2-1 - Bump to 2.4.2 preview 1 - Add support for ppc and ppc64 - Add label for udev-acl is there any reason why mono doesn't use the 0.x revision tags for alpha/beta/RC

Re: Fedora 11 wireless-tools yum erase?

2009-06-22 Thread Peter Robinson
If a tool needs something to perform one of its functions it needs it. There isn't a anaconda-no-wireless package, etc. This speaks deeply to a cultural understanding as to what the concept of networking is. It seems obvious there are people who would like to consider wireless as

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12 (#2)

2009-06-22 Thread Peter Robinson
No, period - I haven't seen anyone in the community say that they're testing it on i586-class hardware. Hi Bill, Your wiki page has some jargon (i586) which I'm trying to reduce to manufacturer products, as you have already done for the AMD products. F12 x86 will not work on i586 (or

Re: Raising the bar

2009-06-29 Thread Peter Robinson
we'd like to announce the 'Fit and Finish' initiative for Fedora, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fit_and_Finish with the goal to improve the user experience of the Fedora desktop. If you wish to improve *user* experience, then you should focus entirely on actual Fedora releases rather than

Re: Raising the bar

2009-06-29 Thread Peter Robinson
Focus on rawhide will mean the next release will see the improvements :) That means, that the next release will be untested, as usual. So why create another useless initiative? Huh? your on the devel list and you don't use rawhide? Maybe I should introduce you to the fedora-test list.

Re: Raising the bar

2009-06-29 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Peter Robinsonpbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Focus on rawhide will mean the next release will see the improvements :) That means, that the next release will be untested, as usual. So why create another useless initiative? Huh? your on the devel list and you

Re: Raising the bar

2009-06-29 Thread Peter Robinson
As much fun as it is to make up stats on the spot, I would ask you to show some proof that nobody uses rawhide. Please, take a look at smolts statistics, for example. Don't fool yourself with wrong statement that many users (not redhat employees) using Rawhide. Smolt statistics for example

Re: Raising the bar

2009-06-29 Thread Peter Robinson
As much fun as it is to make up stats on the spot, I would ask you to show some proof that nobody uses rawhide. Please, take a look at smolts statistics, for example. Don't fool yourself with wrong statement that many users (not redhat employees) using Rawhide. Smolt statistics for

ppc64 assistance

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, I've having some issues with a PPC64 build and was wondering if someone a bit more ppc savy could have a poke. It builds fine on x86 and ppc32. git head also has the same issue as the current stable release so unfortunately that doesn't help much. PPC64 build

Re: ppc64 assistance

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Colin Walterswalt...@verbum.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Peter Robinsonpbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I've having some issues with a PPC64 build and was wondering if someone a bit more ppc savy could have a poke. A backtrace would be

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] dracut-0.3

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi Harald, On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 12:59 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: Here it is, dracut-0.3! Thanks for your efforts, this is excellent. We've started using it for OLPC's F11 spin, including our own modules to implement OLPC features. So much nicer than what we had before! However, the

Re: ppc64 assistance

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
Interestingly with -ggdb it builds fine with out without -O0. That makes it a lot more likely to be a compiler flaw (though not guaranteed). Does 'make check' pass in the source tree you built with -O0? A backtrace would still be great though.  Try setting DEBUG=fcatch in the environment.  

Re: ppc64 assistance

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1449113 Unrelated to this issue, but please use make V=1 so we see the actual build command lines in the build.log (see the thread about the new automake). With V=1 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1450335name=build.log

Re: ppc64 assistance

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1449113 Unrelated to this issue, but please use make V=1 so we see the actual build command lines in the build.log (see the thread about the new automake). With V=1 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1450335name=build.log

Re: ppc64 assistance

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1449113 Unrelated to this issue, but please use make V=1 so we see the actual build command lines in the build.log (see the thread about the new automake). With V=1

Package reviews

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, I'm working to get the core moblin packages into Fedora with the plan of having at least experimental support in time for F-12. If you've got a few spare cycles and have some time to review a package there's a list against the tracker bug here.

Re: Possible packages...

2009-07-06 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi,    So I've been toying with the idea of getting more involved with fedora. Up till now if there has been a bug or other issue, i'll file a bug or simply get the srpm and try to update it to a newer version, or create my own specs / rpms when they don't already exist. Lately I've figured

issues with the koji repo?

2009-07-07 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, Is there currently an issue with the koji repo process? A pair of rawhide chain builds that I ran last night failed and when I tried them again this morning the previous package still wasn't in the repo to build against. Similarly a F-11 build override that was tagged 10 or so hours ago

F11 updates?

2009-07-10 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, Is there an issue with F11 updates, I don't remember seeing anything on the list about it but AFAICT it seems there's not been an updates push for around 2 weeks. Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: F11 updates?

2009-07-10 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, Is there an issue with F11 updates, I don't remember seeing anything on the list about it but AFAICT it seems there's not been an updates push for around 2 weeks. Last updates i saw where 3rd and 4th July which is a while ago but hardly 2 weeks. Other than that i would say they

Re: F11 updates?

2009-07-10 Thread Peter Robinson
Is there an issue with F11 updates, I don't remember seeing anything on the list about it but AFAICT it seems there's not been an updates push for around 2 weeks. You often can find a status on: http://identi.ca/jwboyer @jwb: thx for that service btw How useful, thanks :-) Peter --

Re: F-11 updates seem hosed today

2009-07-13 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Tom Lanet...@redhat.com wrote: (Not sure if this is the right list to complain on, but ...) Trying to do a routine yum update on an F-11 x86 machine is not working today.  It successfully downloaded a bunch of packages, but cannot find these: Error

Review swaps

2009-07-18 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, I have a couple of package reviews I'd like to swap some reviews with someone. They are: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=511895 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506804 Cheers, Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: review req: remaining 2 cloud computing daemons

2009-07-19 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi Jeff, On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Jeff Garzikjgar...@pobox.com wrote: (resending; not sure where the original went) My little cloud computing project has three small server daemons, plus associated client libs, ready for Fedora. Thanks to Mike Bonnet, the first package of three,

Re: Mock Failures on F11

2009-07-19 Thread Peter Robinson
I'm having a ton of trouble getting mock --rebuild to work in F11 -- I've tried it on several systems (both i386 and x86_64) with Fedora-{10,11}-{i386,x86_64} config files and various input SRPMS. None of the builds work: mock fails on a yum depsolv command with an --installroot option.

Re: rawhide report: 20090721 changes

2009-07-22 Thread Peter Robinson
On 07/21/2009 09:00 PM, Rawhide Report wrote: Compose started at Tue Jul 21 06:15:03 UTC 2009 New package ghc-editline         Haskell %{pgk_name} library Obvious typo and it passed through review as well. Rahul I noticed this, but I don't think it's a typo. In the rpm it gets

fedora mini revisted

2009-07-27 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, I'd like some thoughts, and some help so yes, I'm opening a can of worms :-) A while a go jkatz put out a call about support for netbooks, and I begun to step up and the idea behind Fedora Mini [1] was born before being sidetracked by shiny things in the corner. So I'd like to get

Re: Orphaning some packages

2009-07-27 Thread Peter Robinson
clutter-cairo -- A basic Cairo clutter widget This one is deprecated upsteam and merged into clutter, I've already done most of the rawhide dead package stuff in bug [1] it just needs the obsoletes added to clutter. Cheers, Peter [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507389 --

Re: Orphaning some packages

2009-07-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Owen Taylorotay...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 16:59 -0300, Allisson Azevedo wrote: I am orphaning this packages because i don't have time to maintain them. clutter -- Open Source software library for creating rich graphical user interfaces

Re: fedora mini revisted

2009-07-29 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, I'd like some thoughts, and some help so yes, I'm opening a can of worms :-) A while a go jkatz put out a call about support for netbooks, and I begun to step up and the idea behind Fedora Mini [1] was born before being sidetracked by shiny things in the corner. snipped Is

Re: rawhide report: 20090729 changes

2009-07-30 Thread Peter Robinson
       clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0        clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2        clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0        clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires

Review swaps

2009-08-03 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, Anyone interested in some review swaps? I have the following packages that I need to get reviewed for Moblin so if you've got a package you'd like to swap (or you've just got a few spare cycles for a plain review) they are as follows: bickley -

Re: persistent clutter and ghc breakage (was Re: rawhide report: 20090803 changes)

2009-08-04 Thread Peter Robinson
There appear to be a boatload of broken deps for packages based on clutter (presumably because of API bump from 0.9 to 1.0) that have been listed here for over a week and no movement to fix most of them. It was actually broken on the move from 0.8 to 0.9 (and there were a couple of smaller api

Re: rt2860 driver (fc11)

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Robinson
I was hoping that the devs who worked hard to even make it part of the source rpm might be lurking on this mailing list and see my post :) I don't think anything special is done to make it part of our kernel .src.rpm, it's just in there because it's in the upstream kernel tarball :). I

Re: Fedora 12 Features Proposed for Removal

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Robinson
After requesting status updates, including direct email to the feature owners, the following feature pages do not have a current status or their ability to tested during the Alpha is unclear based on the lack of information provided or percentage of completion.

Re: rt2860 driver (fc11)

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Robinson
Good luck with that! This driver has been in the process of being re-written for well over a year, I've long given up hope. Its unfortunate as its in alot of netbooks including all the atom based eeePCs. Fortunately rpmfusion has one that works reasonably well (it even suspends and resumes!)

Re: rawhide report: 20090806 changes

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Rawhide Reportrawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Compose started at Thu Aug  6 06:15:06 UTC 2009 Updated Packages: firefox-3.5.2-2.fc11 * Mon Aug 03 2009 Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com - 3.5.2-2 - Updated to 3.5.2.

Re: Fedora 12 Features Proposed for Removal

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Robinson
IMO, this feature should be scratched, because the packages in question are of immature nature (... and of low packaging quality from my POV). Be specific. This is not enough information to influence the decision at this stage. OK, more verbose: * In their present shape the packages are

Re: rawhide report: 20090806 changes

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Robinson
This looks somewhat truncated. I have at least one new package that should be in the list :-( We're in Freeze.  If you didn't request a freeze tag, it won't get into the rawhide compose. Of course! I thought the alpha was going to be a running snapshot of rawhide without a freeze this time

Re: rawhide report: 20090806 changes

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Robinson
This looks somewhat truncated. I have at least one new package that should be in the list :-( We're in Freeze.  If you didn't request a freeze tag, it won't get into the rawhide compose. Of course! I thought the alpha was going to be a running snapshot of rawhide without a freeze this time

Re: Fedora 12 Features Proposed for Removal

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Robinson
Would you please be so kind and name names here? What packages and what reviews are you talking about? In this context, I am talking about all moblin package submissions by Mr. Robinson. I asked you to write down the problems you found in bz and CC me, but so far I haven't received a

Re: Fedora 12 Features Proposed for Removal

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Robinson
1. He is running the autotools while building. It's your personal opinion that this is low quality, many other packagers don't agree with their assertion and the guidelines (intentionally) don't ban it. FYI, all our KDE 3 packages reran the autotools during the build (KDE 3's make cvs

Re: Fedora 12 Features Proposed for Removal

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Robinson
The feature process can be very forgiving when there is *information* on the feature page about how testable a particular feature is or further information what is left to be done past feature freeze. I don't currently have the ability to know what every upstream project is doing or know

Re: rt2860 driver (fc11)

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Robinson
Thanks for the clarification. From what I read, I inferred that the driver in /staging was the serialmonkey driver, but it seems I read it wrong, and what it actually means to say was 'this is the vendor driver, it sucks, don't contribute any code to this driver, contribute to the

Re: rt2860 driver (fc11)

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Robinson
I had the same confusion. So there are 3 drivers around: The vendor driver, the staging driver which is a fork of the vendor driver and the serialmonkey driver.  Multiply that by 3 for rt2860, rt2870 and rt3070. And this leads to another confusion. Do (or will) the Fedora kernels have

Re: Fit and Finish, round three: peripherals

2009-08-08 Thread Peter Robinson
a camera, a phone, a usb stick, or whatever gizmos you have at home... Real plastic and metal plugs only, or bluetooth connections as well? Bluetooth is definitively in scope. The scope seems worryingly large, to me, on this one. We could talk about modems, 3G modems, mice,

Re: source file audit - 2009-08-10

2009-08-10 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi, pbrobinson:BADURL:Journal-99.tar.bz2:sugar-journal I'm pretty sure this has been obsoleted and is a dead package but I'm in the process of confirming the status and will update as appropriate once I have confirmation. pbrobinson:BADURL:mojito-0.19.2.tar.bz2:mojito This is fixed in cvs

Re: pygtk2 and its numpy dependency

2009-08-10 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi, pygtk2 implements a function called gtk.gdk.get_pixels_array(), which returns the pixel contents of a GDK pixbuf as a numpy array.  Fine and dandy, but this means it links against numpy (7 megs) which is itself linked against atlas (12 megs).  Kind of a lot for a single function,

Re: source file audit - 2009-08-10

2009-08-11 Thread Peter Robinson
pbrobinson:BADURL:Journal-99.tar.bz2:sugar-journal I'm pretty sure this has been obsoleted and is a dead package but I'm in the process of confirming the status and will update as appropriate once I have confirmation. Confirmed the package is now dead and have completed the dead package

Re: F12 to require i686, but which CPUs do not qualify?

2009-08-13 Thread Peter Robinson
I've noticed that F12 will require a CPU with i686 architecture, and that my Athlon 1.2GHz won't qualify.  I accept that F11 is the last Fedora release that I'll be able to use.  My concern is that many present Fedora users will be unpleasantly surprised that a new installation doesn't work,

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12 (#2)

2009-08-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Bill Nottinghamnott...@redhat.com wrote: Martin Langhoff (martin.langh...@gmail.com) said: To note: it _is_ reported as a 586, so at least ancillary work in yum/anaconda/rpm will be needed so that installing F12 on these supported but not quite 686 CPUs is

Re: Empathy default in F12?

2009-08-16 Thread Peter Robinson
The F12 feature still indicates the switch to Empathy as a default IM client in Fedora. However, the talk page for the feature (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Features/Empathy) raises material concerns that the switch to Empathy would result in an insufficiently justified loss of

Re: Last call for talking points - what makes you excited about F12?

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Rahul Sundaramsunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 08/18/2009 10:12 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Mel Chuam...@redhat.com wrote: If you've got a moment for some last-minute help... We (Marketing) will be freezing the F12 talking

Re: Fedora 12 Features Proposed for Removal

2009-08-19 Thread Peter Robinson
After requesting status updates, including direct email to the feature owners, the following feature pages do not have a current status or their ability to tested during the Alpha is unclear based on the lack of information provided or percentage of completion.

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20

2009-08-20 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Michael Schwendtmschwe...@gmail.com wrote: == The results in this summary consider Test Updates! == Summary of broken

Add Moblin Desktop group to comps

2009-08-20 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, I would like to add a group for the Moblin Desktop. My proposed patch is below and feedback is welcome. Cheers, Peter --- comps-f12.xml.in.orig 2009-08-20 17:10:23.0 +0100 +++ comps-f12.xml.in2009-08-20 17:20:47.0 +0100 @@ -4235,6 +4235,17 @@ /packagelist

Re: Add Moblin Desktop group to comps

2009-08-20 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Bill Nottinghamnott...@redhat.com wrote: Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) said: I would like to add a group for the Moblin Desktop. My proposed patch is below and feedback is welcome. ... this seems small. There are no other apps required? Yes

Re: Add Moblin Desktop group to comps

2009-08-20 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Jesse Keatingjkeat...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 17:22 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, I would like to add a group for the Moblin Desktop. My proposed patch is below and feedback is welcome. Is Moblin a trademark of anybody? Intel has

Re: Add Moblin Desktop group to comps

2009-08-20 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Bill Nottinghamnott...@redhat.com wrote: Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) said: On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Bill Nottinghamnott...@redhat.com wrote: Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) said: I would like to add a group for the Moblin Desktop. My

Re: Add Moblin Desktop group to comps

2009-08-20 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Colin Walterswalt...@verbum.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Peter Robinsonpbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I would like to add a group for the Moblin Desktop. My proposed patch is below and feedback is welcome. Peter, thanks for all your work

Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 11 - 2009-08-20

2009-08-21 Thread Peter Robinson
Sorry but the fail here is 100% on bodhi's side , why does a single package obsolete a complete group update? That is just broken, and this example clearly showed it. It's broken (we've had some fun with that with the KDE grouped updates too, we learned to be careful about what we push

Re: Add Moblin Desktop group to comps

2009-08-21 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, I would like to add a group for the Moblin Desktop. My proposed patch is below and feedback is welcome. This is updated with the current components that are in rawhide. All the other packages should be pulled in by deps. Cheers, Peter --- comps-f12.xml.in.orig 2009-08-20

issues with livecd-creator on F-11?

2009-08-25 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi, Is anyone else having issues with livecd-creator? I'm seeing the issue below on a 2 F-11 boxes, and possible a rawhide one as well. Peter Installing: xorg-x11-drivers # [804/807] Installing: plymouth-gdm-hooks # [805/807]

Re: issues with livecd-creator on F-11?

2009-08-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Jeremy Katzka...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone else having issues with livecd-creator? I'm seeing the issue below on a 2 F-11 boxes, and possible a rawhide one as well. [snip

Re: issues with livecd-creator on F-11?

2009-08-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Jeremy Katzka...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone else having issues with livecd-creator? I'm seeing the issue below on a 2 F-11 boxes, and possible a rawhide one as well. [snip

fedora mini alpha testing

2009-08-25 Thread Peter Robinson
Arriving fashionably late, and mostly intact, to the Constantine Alpha party I'd like to announce that Moblin on Fedora has made it's initial debut for Fedora Mini :) Still a work in progress, Moblin is now in a mostly usable state on Fedora for testing. It has hence come well dressed for the

Re: rawhide report: 20090826 changes

2009-08-26 Thread Peter Robinson
snip telepathy-mission-control-5.2.0-1.fc12 -- * Tue Aug 25 2009 Brian Pepple bpep...@fedoraproject.org - 5.2.0-1 - Update to 5.2.0. - Drop BR on libtelepathy. - Update url source links. snip Broken deps for i386

rawhide LiveCD with EFI boot?

2009-08-27 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, I have a little touch screen device that I'm playing around with. It has EFI and its easy enough to get it to boot something other than what its meant to. It seems the LiveCD doesn't have EFI support there. Any hints welcome. Cheers, Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: Packaging Request: Pure Data

2009-08-31 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Mani Aa.mani@gmail.com wrote: http://puredata.info/ is not in the package database. From the license POV, there are no problems. I think this is the bug your after. A review is in progress but there's a few build issues.

Re: Review needed for libtnc

2009-09-01 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Tom spot Callawaytcall...@redhat.com wrote: Hi folks, I need this package reviewed so that I can fix the broken dep on xsupplicant in rawhide: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501017 I'd be happy to do a review trade, just let me know. Will do

Re: rawhide report: 20090910 changes

2009-09-11 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: Hiyas, why are the new packages now hidden below the broken dependencies? Iirc there was even a discussion about changing the format more than a year ago and back then it was decided to keep it as it is. This was

Re: rawhide report: 20090910 changes

2009-09-11 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:37:59AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: This was discussed a couple of days ago against another rawhide report. I would check out the list archives for the reasoning. I fail to find

Re: Possible packages...

2009-09-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 02:35:56PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 09:52 +0200, Rudolf Kastl wrote: 2009/7/13 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com: snip PS3MediaServer. A Java program to talk to a

Re: PPC/PPC64 disabled in Koji for dist-f13

2009-09-28 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 23:00 +0100, Mat Booth wrote: What do we have to do in order to build on PPC? Does it happen automagically? Once the ppc builders are setup and running smoothly, successful build requests on the

Re: sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Hello, the sugar-pippy rpm in Fedora depends on pygame, which is used by some of the examples. So far, so good, but pygame in turn depends on numpy, a 7.7MB package which a lot of huge dependencies such as atlas

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Tue, 29-09-2009 a las 12:36 +, Aleksey Lim escribió: pygame and numpy are parts of Sugar Platform[1], at least for 0.84, so, the right question is should these pakcages be a part of SP-0.86 I guess +1 for both,

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Tue, 29-09-2009 a las 16:25 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz escribió: Bernie Innocenti wrote: 1) are there lighter-weight alternatives for the most popular uses of numpy? No.  It has no competition, and is used by

Re: sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/29/2009 12:51 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Hello, the sugar-pippy rpm in Fedora depends on pygame, which is used by some of the examples

Re: sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/29/2009 01:52 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: I admit I'm not following sugar and numpy discussions too closely so I might have missed

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-09-30 Thread Peter Robinson
And Today I am %100 finished... Please point out which part of that did I misinterpret, because the last thing I want to do is cause problems... Because we do seem to fight this problem every release.  Was anyone else confused about when the deadline was?  It seems very clear to me, on

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