On 11/24/2009 03:39 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
The netinst.iso would involve less downloaded content than the 700M live
image. How would it not fit their needs?
Perhaps net installation can be promoted as a spin and given
appropriate amount of attention in http://spins.fedoraproject.org
On 11/24/2009 09:54 AM, Otto Haliburton wrote:
from the descriptions I have seen on this thread there is a possibility that
it was, although remote. Maybe it is the tone of what you are saying. Tone
it down and be more tolerant is by far a more rational approach. People
won't report their
On 11/24/2009 08:35 PM, Simon Andrews wrote:
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 11/24/2009 02:21 AM, Ben Williams wrote:
If release engineering would like to release liveusb.iso for people to
use to install or just to look at the new features, that is fine But
from the #fedora channel the # of people
On 11/24/2009 10:32 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
Hi, guys. Just a quick note - Matej Cepl pointed out that the
already-agreed BugZappers plan to switch to using the Triaged keyword
only for Fedora 13 and later presents problems. Most significantly, it's
impossible to reliably construct a
On 11/24/2009 11:57 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 20:47 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
We are not discarding CD images all together. If you feel there is a
compelling reason to continue with a Live CD, I am afraid you will have
to step up and do it. The tools are easy
On 11/25/2009 12:24 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 12:24 -0600, Sir Gallantmon wrote:
Why not label it x86_32 instead of i386? That is far less confusing and
illustrates that it is 32-bit on the x86 architecture, since x86_64 says it
is 64-bit on x86 architecture.
Because
On 11/25/2009 12:56 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Should there be a RFE bug or rel-eng ticket created so this e-mail
thread is not for nothing? It's been discussed since the beginning of
time AFAIK.
Tickets have been filed and closed before, IIRC.
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On 11/26/2009 07:54 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote:
That is true, but a major amount of work in getting a release out must
be testing it. Those Fedora people involved in the testing, which are
also user-testers, have their own systems with there own hardware and are
fully conversant with delving
On 11/26/2009 08:09 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote:
I have not entered any bugzilla numbers as yet. I spent days with F11 and
previous releases diagnosing reporting and attempting to fix bugs. No
graphics updates were ever made available for F11 and still Fedora cannot
run even Blender on most of
On 11/26/2009 08:34 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote:
Yes, clear bug reports are needed but they also need the follow through
to a fix and updated packages.
Agreed. File specific bug reports and post the links here.
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On 11/26/2009 08:38 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote:
On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 20:13 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Specific bug reports are definitely going to
help.
Here are 4 to start with:
1) Cronometer crashes KDE session.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504173
Filed against wrong
On 11/27/2009 11:38 AM, Dave Airlie wrote:
Don't use radeonhd, the Fedora X team don't support it and never have.
I'm thinking it should reallyt be removed from the distro at this point
That makes sense. Why don't we drop this from Rawhide? Shipping
unsupported drivers like this is
On 11/28/2009 02:12 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
I just did a new install on a spare laptop. I chose the Software
Development option.
Emacs did not get installed.
Also, although neither mysql-devel, nor postgresql-devel, nor even
libtool-ltdl-devel got installed, I ended up with a huge
On 11/28/2009 02:13 AM, Dave Airlie wrote:
We (Red Hat or Fedora) currently don't have access to any sort of
conformance suite for our GL though Intel and VMware have started at
least doing more and more regression test work lately so less and less
crap is making it way into the mainline and
On 11/28/2009 02:21 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
What makes your statement invalid is your use of the word essential. Bling
and essential are mutually exclusive characteristics WRT to normal desktop
users. I didn't use the word useless. And yes, 3D is way more - way more
overhead, way more
On 11/27/2009 10:29 PM, Guillaume Kulakowski wrote:
Hi,
I package GrNotify but the project is dead. I have reported some bug
to upstream and I have proposed some patch but no new release since 9
months. I think remove it from Fedora but I don't know any replacement
solution.
That do you
On 11/28/2009 02:32 AM, Debayan Banerjee wrote:
2009/11/28 Rahul Sundaram
Why? It's just shows your personal preference for a editor. Emacs is
certainly not needed for software development.
Well one does need an editor for development. Assuming vim and emacs
have roughly equal user bases
On 11/28/2009 02:49 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/11/28 02:53 (GMT+0530) Rahul Sundaram composed:
On 11/28/2009 02:21 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
What makes your statement invalid is your use of the word essential. Bling
and essential are mutually exclusive characteristics WRT to normal desktop
On 11/28/2009 03:14 AM, John Poelstra wrote:
Bruno Wolff III said the following on 11/27/2009 11:59 AM Pacific Time:
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 09:41:17 -0800,
John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/13/Schedule
Is there a calendar page for that that
On 11/28/2009 03:26 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/11/28 03:37 (GMT+0530) Rahul Sundaram composed:
Compositing is sooner or later going to be enabled by default everywhere.
Somehow those niche users managed 10-20 years ago before there was such a
thing as 3D support in XFree86/Xorg
On 11/30/2009 01:33 AM, Ikem Krueger wrote:
The Bugzappers also always happy to have more people volunteer to help with
X.org bug triage; it's a lot of work to keep on top of.
I'd like to help. But the wikipage for testing Xorg issues* is a way
to much to read, given the case you follow all
On 12/01/2009 02:59 AM, Muayyad AlSadi wrote:
I consider real men to be a gender-neutral complement. I know women who
gladly receive it and exchange it amongst themselves.
Since we're offering Casey money to do things¹ today:
I will send you a check for $5 if you admit that real men is _in
On 12/08/2009 03:59 AM, Mat Booth wrote:
2009/12/7 Panu Matilainen
Now that FESCo has approved new major RPM version for F-13 and the public
beta is officially out... it's going to hit rawhide in a few hours.
I remember hearing a rumour about automagic OSGi dependency
resolution... Is
On 12/02/2009 07:09 PM, Jindrich Novy wrote:
Hi all,
the Parallel XZ just reached usable state so if you want to take
advantage of parallel LZMA compression, please give it a try before
its inclusion into Fedora.
PXZ homepage is:
http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/pxz/
Are you moving this to
On 12/09/2009 10:17 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/09/2009 04:14 PM, James Antill wrote:
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 15:26 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
So, yeh, if _you_ want to support slower machines
Well, I do not want to, I can't avoid to ...
... _you_ will have
to do the work, you
Hi,
As per policy at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers,
I have filed
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=546072
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On 12/10/2009 04:02 AM, Debayan Banerjee wrote:
2009/12/10 Debayan Banerjee
2009/12/10 Rahul Sundaram
Hi,
As per policy at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers,
I have filed
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=546072
This person used
On 12/11/2009 02:07 PM, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala wrote:
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Hi,
I have forked libtar as libtar-ng, because the upstream does not have
time to maintain it anymore.
Here is the bz:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=546169
Now the
On 12/11/2009 03:56 PM, Florian Festi wrote:
Without knowing the history:
Best solution would be to ask former upstream for permission to continue
the project under its original name
That was already denied
https://lists.feep.net:8080/pipermail/libtar/2009-May/000259.html
Rahul
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On 12/11/2009 04:38 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:14:40 +0530, Rahul wrote:
On 12/11/2009 03:56 PM, Florian Festi wrote:
Without knowing the history:
Best solution would be to ask former upstream for permission to continue
the project under its original name
That
Hi
It is a application that lets you minimize any app to the system tray
and is compatible with GNOME, Xfce, KDE etc. It has a dormant upstream
and I haven't had time to look into all the crash reports from Abrt. If
noone picks it up, I will orphan it in a week.
$ yum info alltray
Loaded
On 12/17/2009 12:46 PM, Christof Damian wrote:
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 19:58, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de
wrote:
pavucontrol currently crashes (and pulseaudio) for me on one machine
and I need this functionality.
File a bug.
Could everyone on this list please assume that I
On 12/17/2009 03:20 PM, Christof Damian wrote:
I just find it annoying that some people seem to have File a bug. in
their signature, when one should assume that on fedora-devel everyone
would file a bug for valid problems. It might and should be different
on fedora or the forums.
They do
Hi,
I recently submitting Deja-dup, a backup program written in Vala for
review at
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540761
Vala is described in more detail at http://live.gnome.org/Vala. Deja-dup
like many Vala programs include both the Vala source code and the C
source code to avoid
On 12/22/2009 09:07 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
FWIW - I agree with both jesse and jarod. Official builds are from main
branch. Anything built anywhere else will never be official.
How about scratch builds?
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On 12/23/2009 09:04 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 08:50:11PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 12/22/2009 09:07 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
FWIW - I agree with both jesse and jarod. Official builds are from main
branch. Anything built anywhere else will never be official.
How about
On 12/24/2009 12:52 AM, Tom spot Callaway wrote:
It grants no patent rights to Distributors, aside from those already
granted to Novell in the previous covenant. What it practically means is
that once you distribute, you stop being considered an End User by
Microsoft, and are no longer
On 12/24/2009 05:49 AM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
Care to explain the term environment-modules for me please?
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/EnvironmentModules
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