Re: Some pulseaudio questions...

2009-06-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
/limits.conf and login again. Usually running pulseaudio -v in a terminal might give you a hint what might be going wrong. Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora

Re: Heads up: bluetoothd on-demand startup

2009-06-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
and let dbus handle all the ordering/synchronization issues with starting up bluetoothd. I know at least one application (PA) that wouldn't reconnect to coming and going bluetoothd's, that's why I am asking. Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart

Re: Heads up: bluetoothd on-demand startup

2009-06-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
(org.bluez.Manager, ...) might be useful even without having hw plugged in. Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https

Re: iptables/firewall brainstorming

2009-06-14 Thread Lennart Poettering
and goodbye packets. mDNS is genuinly peer-to-peer and it needs the whole traffic that goes on the mdns multicast group on the local LAN segment. Secondly, connection tracking is not a magic wand. It creates almost as many problems as it solves. Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed

Re: What I HATE about F11

2009-06-14 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 15.06.09 09:15, James Morris (jmor...@namei.org) wrote: On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Lennart Poettering wrote: much broken. It's a bit like SELinux: it's one of the first features most people disable. False. Most people leave SELinux enabled, according to the smolt stats which have

Re: What I HATE about F11

2009-06-14 Thread Lennart Poettering
exists? To me it appears that the data shown on this smolt web thingy originates from /dev/random. Unrelated to this, it's fun to see what happens when one accesses http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/static/stats or a similar URL... ;-) Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat

Re: What I HATE about F11

2009-06-15 Thread Lennart Poettering
if it's shit. Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: No sound in rawhide

2009-06-17 Thread Lennart Poettering
...@nc6400 ~]$ pulseaudio E: bluetooth-util.c: Error from ListAdapters reply:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown That's a missing bluetoothd. This shouldn't be fatal though, or is it? Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http

Re: Rawhide pulseaudio manager problem

2009-06-28 Thread Lennart Poettering
just be the manager app being odd!) paman is obsolete. Don't use it. Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: ck-list-sessions shows active = false

2009-07-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
session of different users. Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12

2009-07-28 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 28.07.09 16:06, Pierre-Yves (pin...@pingoured.fr) wrote: On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 15:59 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: When you test this, please make sure to run version 0.9.16-4.test3 of PA and 2.27.5 of gnome-media at least. Both are still stuck in Koji, aren't in Rawhide yet

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12

2009-07-28 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 28.07.09 14:32, Ben Boeckel (maths...@gmail.com) wrote: Lennart Poettering wrote: Please note that it is our intention not to wrap obsolete mixer controls such as CD, PC Speaker, MIDI and so on. If you file a bug asking for those to be wrapped we will disappoint you and close

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12

2009-07-28 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 28.07.09 15:48, Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) wrote: Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) said: Please note that it is our intention not to wrap obsolete mixer controls such as CD, PC Speaker, MIDI and so on. If you file a bug asking for those to be wrapped we

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12

2009-07-29 Thread Lennart Poettering
forget that mixing is not exactly the most complex operation on earth. But then again, I am happy to take patches. Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12

2009-07-29 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 29.07.09 09:46, Karel Zak (k...@redhat.com) wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:07:32PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 28.07.09 15:48, Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) wrote: Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) said: Please note that it is our

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12

2009-07-29 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 29.07.09 06:48, Jeff Garzik (jgar...@pobox.com) wrote: Karel Zak wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:07:32PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 28.07.09 15:48, Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) wrote: Yes. You cannot select them as record source, you cannot mute or unmute

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12

2009-07-29 Thread Lennart Poettering
words Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Installing glibc 2.10.90-10 hosed my system last night

2009-07-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
-list/2009-July/msg01500.html It was pulseaudio BTW. Oh my. PA's not at fault here. PI mutexes are broken in the rawhide kernel/glibc. It's simply PA which triggers that. Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12

2009-07-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 30.07.09 17:09, Matthew Woehlke (mw_tr...@users.sourceforge.net) wrote: Lennart Poettering wrote: Modern sound card designs don't do hw mixing anymore, it's like fm synthesis or wavetable audio. /me misses fm synth :-) (At least, I'm still looking for something that will turn

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12

2009-07-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
fool out of himself because it is so very obvious that the issue is made up and even he himself hasn't used that feature for years. Because otherwise he'd know how broken it is. Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http

Re: Installing glibc 2.10.90-10 hosed my system last night

2009-07-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 30.07.09 15:40, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 23:00 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 30.07.09 21:25, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:12:25PM +0200, nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12

2009-07-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 30.07.09 19:37, Jeff Garzik (jgar...@pobox.com) wrote: Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 30.07.09 19:06, Jeff Garzik (jgar...@pobox.com) wrote: Lennart Poettering wrote: Doing digital grabbing of is very reliable these days. The analog path is just completely obsolete. I guess

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12

2009-07-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 30.07.09 20:07, Jeff Garzik (jgar...@pobox.com) wrote: Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 30.07.09 19:37, Jeff Garzik (jgar...@pobox.com) wrote: Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 30.07.09 19:06, Jeff Garzik (jgar...@pobox.com) wrote: Lennart Poettering wrote: Doing digital

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12

2009-08-01 Thread Lennart Poettering
is as stupid as claiming Obama wasn't born in the US. All PA does here is hiding a few obsolete ports, such as CDDA, which as mentioned above, isn't otherwise supported anymore anyway. Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net

Re: pulseaudio 0.9.15 for F10?

2009-08-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
doing the upgrade from F10 to F11. Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: pulseaudio 0.9.15 for F10?

2009-08-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 08.08.09 18:56, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) wrote: Lennart Poettering wrote: Upgrading PA like this involves big changes and does not qualify as either security nor as small other bug fixes. Well, then you could backport at least the bugfixes. It's pretty bad

Re: clang static analyzer: use it!

2009-09-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
then. Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: clang static analyzer: use it!

2009-09-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 08.09.09 19:52, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: On Tue, 08.09.09 10:33, Michel Alexandre Salim (michael.silva...@gmail.com) wrote: The latest Rawhide llvm build: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=130997 -- which you'd probably have

Re: Audio broken in F11

2009-09-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
. That said, you are wetting my appetite for another flamewar about this, ... not! Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: [KDE] Which Phonon? Phonon backend - GStreamer or Xine?

2009-09-29 Thread Lennart Poettering
. Uh. Nokia stands pretty firmly behind gst. As do most embedded folks. Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: [KDE] Which Phonon? Phonon backend - GStreamer or Xine?

2009-09-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
is below, but certainly nothing that adds features. PA OTOH extends what is below, it adds features. But heck, this discussion is pretty academic and off-topic. Let's end this here. Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http

Re: [KDE] Which Phonon? Phonon backend - GStreamer or Xine?

2009-09-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
API. I like this idea. Uh, PA is a PCM sound server. Phonon an abstraction layer for general media streaming. Those are different things. Yu can wrap PA and gstreamer in phonon, but just wrapping PA alone won't fly. Lennart [1] That was a joke. -- Lennart PoetteringRed

Re: [KDE] Which Phonon? Phonon backend - GStreamer or Xine?

2009-09-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
of sense to switch to make our distro Gst-only asap. Eventually this move will have to happen anyway. And if it's not us who does the switch first, who will? Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart

Re: Status of HAL

2009-11-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
did have been migrated into various other packages, such as udev/libudev and more. The Ubuntu folks have a nice overview of what moved where and how things were updated: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering

Re: Pulseaudio in F12

2009-12-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
way... Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Why pavucontrol is not installed by default?

2009-12-16 Thread Lennart Poettering
. Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Pulseaudio problem with xine, xmms and mplayer

2009-12-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
? Yes. Firstly, next time please report bugs to bugzilla, that's why we have it. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548989 Secondly, this is not a PA problem. The RT folks broke PI mutexes again, this is a kernel/glibc problem. Lennart -- Lennart PoetteringRed