Re: Problem : japanese-fonts (vlgothic-fonts-20090204-2.fc10)

2009-02-25 Thread Akira TAGOH
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 01:36:17 -0500, QF == Qianqian Fang fan...@gmail.com wrote: QF I think this basically means the Japanese fonts are now QF having higher QF priorities under non-CJK locales, is this really what we QF want? Current fontconfig policy doesn't really helps in this case. if one

Re: Problem : japanese-fonts (vlgothic-fonts-20090204-2.fc10)

2009-02-24 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mar 24 février 2009 05:39, Roozbeh Pournader a écrit : I can't relate these two. By the same reasoning, Fraktur fonts would compete with modern Latin fonts, Urdu fonts would compete with Arabic fonts, and Hindi fonts would compete with Marathi fonts. I suspect the only reason that does

Re: Problem : japanese-fonts (vlgothic-fonts-20090204-2.fc10)

2009-02-24 Thread AKanda
Jens Petersen a écrit : I think the particular problem here under F10 is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485562 Hello, In OpenOffice (for exemple), I have always written in Japanese with the default font (DejaVu Sans .) But in fact if I write with vlgothic it's good. Also, if

Re: Problem : japanese-fonts (vlgothic-fonts-20090204-2.fc10)

2009-02-24 Thread Ben Laenen
On Tuesday 24 February 2009, AKanda wrote: Jens Petersen a écrit : I think the particular problem here under F10 is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485562 Hello, In OpenOffice (for exemple), I have always written in Japanese with the default font (DejaVu Sans .) But in fact

Re: Problem : japanese-fonts (vlgothic-fonts-20090204-2.fc10)

2009-02-24 Thread Caius kaio Chance
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roozbeh Pournader wrote: It would be nice if our intended priorities and fontconfig settings for CJK fonts were documented somewhere (for every concerned locale). Then I could pester Behdad so he tells us how to achieve them cleanly. Right now,

Re: Problem : japanese-fonts (vlgothic-fonts-20090204-2.fc10)

2009-02-24 Thread Qianqian Fang
Caius kaio Chance wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roozbeh Pournader wrote: It would be nice if our intended priorities and fontconfig settings for CJK fonts were documented somewhere (for every concerned locale). Then I could pester Behdad so he tells us how to achieve

Re: Problem : japanese-fonts (vlgothic-fonts-20090204-2.fc10)

2009-02-23 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le jeudi 19 février 2009 à 20:30 +0100, AKanda a écrit : Hello, Hi Akanda, The last update for VLgothicsvlgothic-fonts-20090204-2.fc10.noarch is perhaps not good. (Install by yum.) Sorry for the delay, I was hoping other CJK users would answer, I don't use CJK myself. Chinese, Korean and

Re: Problem : japanese-fonts (vlgothic-fonts-20090204-2.fc10)

2009-02-23 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
Chinese, Korean and Japanese fonts are an old source of pain for font packagers, due to: ... CJK information processing being very hard to do correctly. See Ken Lunde's amazing 900-page tome, CJKV Information Processing, which recently appeared in its second edition:

Re: Problem : japanese-fonts (vlgothic-fonts-20090204-2.fc10)

2009-02-23 Thread Qianqian Fang
1. the way Unicode.org decided it would be a good idea to have them share codepoints (Han unification), Using unified code points to represent Han glyphs is nothing wrong, the only issue is the current fonts and fontconfig are not capable of distinguishing the z-variants, as Unicode

Re: Problem : japanese-fonts (vlgothic-fonts-20090204-2.fc10)

2009-02-23 Thread Jens Petersen
I think the particular problem here under F10 is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485562 - Qianqian Fang fan...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is quite the opposite: this happens most often when people are trying to read CJK text under non-CJK locales. Pango does not assume