Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
sankarshan wrote: On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Debayan Banerjee debaya...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to ask Arindam and Subhodip if they will be in Durgapur at the time of Mukti. Additionally, please ask what they would like to talk about and show-off during Mukti if they are in Durgapur. I suggest you check with Subhodip and Arindam because from what I have heard from IDG they have been called by TCS up to join at end of January and will be stationed in Ahmedabad. ~ Stephanie ~ ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Stephanie Das Gupta stephaniedasgu...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest you check with Subhodip and Arindam because from what I have heard from IDG they have been called by TCS up to join at end of January and will be stationed in Ahmedabad. That is true. One thing I would like to add is that people are forgetting about our ever enthusiastic Ratnadeep. He is a Fedora contributor and is also a good speaker. Last I checked, he was working on the FedEx project and could very well get a hackfest organized around it. Copying Ratnadeep in case he is not going through the mailing list. -- Regards Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury Fedora Ambassador sherry...@gmail.com Sent from Bangalore, KA, India ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:58 PM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Debayan Banerjee debaya...@gmail.com wrote: Fedora folks last year could not reach out to too many people last year because of some logistical difficulties. Even then the impact was pretty good. That is the reason I asked for a quantitative assessment of the impact. On hindsight, last year we tried to do a lot of things (somewhat along the lines of being everything to everybody). Personally, I don't think we actually had success on that. What sort of assessment do you expect. I take it that NIT is an institution - it should be able to set up a Fedora mirror and, allow local installs. I don't see the surging need for DVDs. DVDs are distributed among the students who come from outside during Mukti. But even if we dont get DVDs we will try to manage. However we need a speaker to the audience who can show some stuff to encourage the audience. In this context i would like to mention that Debayan, Shreyank and me were moved by Kushal's visit to our college. Previously I thought about using it only, but whatever little bit I have done till now was a result of his visit. -- Roshan Kumar Singh http://roshansingh.wordpress.com http://sourceforge.net/projects/gscribble ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
But even if we dont get DVDs we will try to manage. However we need a speaker to the audience who can show some stuff to encourage the audience. In this context i would like to mention that Debayan, Shreyank and me were moved by Kushal's visit to our college. Previously I thought about using it only, but whatever little bit I have done till now was a result of his visit. So why don't _you_ take Kushal's role this time? Cheers, Debarshi -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Debarshi Ray debarshi@gmail.com wrote: So why don't _you_ take Kushal's role this time? Is there a replacement for our ever enthusiastic Kushal? -- A ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
2010/1/8 Aanjhan R aanj...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Debarshi Ray debarshi@gmail.com wrote: So why don't _you_ take Kushal's role this time? Is there a replacement for our ever enthusiastic Kushal? On a more serious note, Roshan is desperately trying to get Fedora folks to talk at Mukti. I think we can assume that he has considered the idea of he himself being a speaker, and also rejected it. Respecting his decision, would it now be possible for a Fedora contributor to speak there? -- Regards, Debayan Banerjee ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Debayan Banerjee debaya...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/8 Aanjhan R aanj...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Debarshi Ray debarshi@gmail.com wrote: So why don't _you_ take Kushal's role this time? Is there a replacement for our ever enthusiastic Kushal? On a more serious note, Roshan is desperately trying to get Fedora folks to talk at Mukti. I think we can assume that he has considered the idea of he himself being a speaker, and also rejected it. I have two concerns about the lines above. One, the notion of Fedora folks from outside having to talk to a crowd of students (which I interpret as in-house experts aren't considered glamorous) and, two, the fact that since the last time, barring Debayan, Shreyank and Roshan, there haven't been newer faces coming up from NIT-Durgapur. Think that through. If Kushal did make an impact at all, why did it have to be just 3 people in, I assume a batch of 200 ? If you have an idea why this is so, including the now-established notion of cool hai, I'd be interested in hearing. Personally, I am all for participation in college events to raise awareness. But, we have to accept a couple of things: * awareness is a good measure in institutions which have no FOSS culture * participation requires someone to volunteer their time * participation costs money In other to provide a reasonable justification for the last two, there needs to be a follow-through of the first item. Awareness - participation + contribution. Along the lines of what I did ask Shreyank in December - where are the folks from Roshan's batch and, other batches ? Respecting his decision, would it now be possible for a Fedora contributor to speak there? I haven't read about anyone volunteering to be at Mukti and requesting sponsorship to travel. If there is anyone interested, now would be a time to use the ticket on fedorahosted.org/fedora-india. If the budget permits, it would be easy to sponsor someone to visit Durgapur, we'd need a ticket on the trac, an idea of what the presence would be for and, the estimated cost of making that happen. As regards media, I'd suggest that you sell them. The monies should come of some use. Pressing media in bulk to give away does not seem to have the same effect. The other option I can think of is getting in touch with LFY as a partner of some sort at the event where they sponsor media. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
2010/1/8 sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Debayan Banerjee debaya...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/8 Aanjhan R aanj...@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Debarshi Ray debarshi@gmail.com wrote: So why don't _you_ take Kushal's role this time? Is there a replacement for our ever enthusiastic Kushal? On a more serious note, Roshan is desperately trying to get Fedora folks to talk at Mukti. I think we can assume that he has considered the idea of he himself being a speaker, and also rejected it. I have two concerns about the lines above. One, the notion of Fedora folks from outside having to talk to a crowd of students I would like to ask Arindam and Subhodip if they will be in Durgapur at the time of Mukti. barring Debayan, Shreyank and Roshan, You forgot Rangeen. In other to provide a reasonable justification for the last two, there needs to be a follow-through of the first item. Awareness - participation + contribution. I was thinking on the lines of having a hackfest this time. We could devote an entire day where the first half is spent in a workshop where people learn a particular technology, and the second half is spent fixing bugs in some project, or adding new features. There has to be good planning regarding the semantics of this hackfest though. We need to figure out what application we want to hack, and what expertise it requires. Once people touch base with the code itself, and see it running on their desktops, that should pull more people into the community. Along the lines of what I did ask Shreyank in December - where are the folks from Roshan's batch and, other batches ? When I left college last year, there were 2 competing trends that my batch had infused. One was free software, where Shreyank and I had made some inroads, and the second was TopCoder or similar online programming judges where Swapnil Sonawane and Rajat achieved milestones. As it turns out, Swapnil and Rajat ended up getting jobs on campus that paid the best (upto 3 times what Shreyank or I get!!). This has pulled in a lot of people into the programming contest arena. Not enough has happened in the free software field though. I think it is of critical importance that Shreyank gives a talk this year. People need to see him as an example of what hacking for pleasure can mean in the end. As regards media, I'd suggest that you sell them. I agree. There would be enough people ready to buy too. -- Regards, Debayan Banerjee ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Debayan Banerjee debaya...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to ask Arindam and Subhodip if they will be in Durgapur at the time of Mukti. Additionally, please ask what they would like to talk about and show-off during Mukti if they are in Durgapur. barring Debayan, Shreyank and Roshan, You forgot Rangeen. Indeed I did and, my apologies to Rangeen on that score. When I left college last year, there were 2 competing trends that my batch had infused. One was free software, where Shreyank and I had made some inroads, and the second was TopCoder or similar online programming judges where Swapnil Sonawane and Rajat achieved milestones. As it turns out, Swapnil and Rajat ended up getting jobs on campus that paid the best (upto 3 times what Shreyank or I get!!). I might not be comprehending this properly. Why would participating in online coding contests be a deterrent to contributing to Free and Open Source Software ? Although, considering the part within parenthesis, if that is how it is projected, will obviously skew the participation in a way that nothing can counter. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
Success can not be measured in such a short time. Let a decade pass and look back. Take into account money/fun/identity/knowledge and Other things that you received and there wont be doubts. Money is a very important thing but so is living your life in your own terms. (I am feeling philosophical today :) ) On 1/8/10, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Debayan Banerjee debaya...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to ask Arindam and Subhodip if they will be in Durgapur at the time of Mukti. Additionally, please ask what they would like to talk about and show-off during Mukti if they are in Durgapur. barring Debayan, Shreyank and Roshan, You forgot Rangeen. Indeed I did and, my apologies to Rangeen on that score. When I left college last year, there were 2 competing trends that my batch had infused. One was free software, where Shreyank and I had made some inroads, and the second was TopCoder or similar online programming judges where Swapnil Sonawane and Rajat achieved milestones. As it turns out, Swapnil and Rajat ended up getting jobs on campus that paid the best (upto 3 times what Shreyank or I get!!). I might not be comprehending this properly. Why would participating in online coding contests be a deterrent to contributing to Free and Open Source Software ? Although, considering the part within parenthesis, if that is how it is projected, will obviously skew the participation in a way that nothing can counter. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india -- Regards, Susmit. = http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit = ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
2009/12/31 sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Roshan Singh singh.rosha...@gmail.com wrote: I am a student from National Institute of Technology, Durgapur. We organise a FOSS festival, Mukti(http://mkti.in) every year. Last year we had some Fedora contributors here during our fest. In continuation with that we are hopeful to get some more speakers from Fedora. Would it be possible for you to talk a bit more about whether and how the presence last year was helpful ? Fedora folks last year could not reach out to too many people last year because of some logistical difficulties. Even then the impact was pretty good. I am sure that this year a normal Fedora Activity Day will be extremely successful. Just make sure they are given full access to all resources and take care of logistics (stalls/DVDs) well. -- Regards, Debayan Banerjee ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Roshan Singh singh.rosha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am a student from National Institute of Technology, Durgapur. We organise a FOSS festival, Mukti(http://mkti.in) every year. Last year we had some Fedora contributors here during our fest. In continuation with that we are hopeful to get some more speakers from Fedora. 1. I would like to know if we can get to some speaker to show their projects like a small hack session with the hope that we may get some contributors to the project. We will provide the necessary requirement for conducting the session 2. There is a panel discussion around the topic Free software. Why is it important for students like us to contribute to them. Software Patents.. The number of speakers participating in this event will be 3-4. Date: 5-7 Feb 2010. Timings of all the events are yet to be decided. We are open to suggestions. Can you please open a ticket here? It will be easier to track. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ -- Regards, Susmit. = http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit = Sent from Calcutta, WB, India ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
I have created a ticket for the same. Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ticket/56 -- Roshan Kumar Singh http://roshansingh.wordpress.com http://sourceforge.net/projects/gscribble ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 12:25 AM, susmit shannigrahi thinklinux@gmail.com wrote: Can you please open a ticket here? It will be easier to track. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ and, the FAQ is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sankarshan/Event_Questions -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
[fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
Hi all, I am a student from National Institute of Technology, Durgapur. We organise a FOSS festival, Mukti(http://mkti.in) every year. Last year we had some Fedora contributors here during our fest. In continuation with that we are hopeful to get some more speakers from Fedora. 1. I would like to know if we can get to some speaker to show their projects like a small hack session with the hope that we may get some contributors to the project. We will provide the necessary requirement for conducting the session 2. There is a panel discussion around the topic Free software. Why is it important for students like us to contribute to them. Software Patents.. The number of speakers participating in this event will be 3-4. Date: 5-7 Feb 2010. Timings of all the events are yet to be decided. We are open to suggestions. -- Roshan Kumar Singh http://roshansingh.wordpress.com http://sourceforge.net/projects/gscribble ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Roshan Singh singh.rosha...@gmail.com wrote: I am a student from National Institute of Technology, Durgapur. We organise a FOSS festival, Mukti(http://mkti.in) every year. Last year we had some Fedora contributors here during our fest. In continuation with that we are hopeful to get some more speakers from Fedora. Would it be possible for you to talk a bit more about whether and how the presence last year was helpful ? 1. I would like to know if we can get to some speaker to show their projects like a small hack session with the hope that we may get some contributors to the project. We will provide the necessary requirement for conducting the session How about you doing this yourself ? 2. There is a panel discussion around the topic Free software. Why is it important for students like us to contribute to them. Software Patents.. The number of speakers participating in this event will be 3-4. Interesting mashup of panel talks. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
Re: [fedora-india] request for speaker for our FOSS festival Mukti 2010
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:01 PM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Roshan Singh singh.rosha...@gmail.com wrote: I am a student from National Institute of Technology, Durgapur. We organise a FOSS festival, Mukti(http://mkti.in) every year. Last year we had some Fedora contributors here during our fest. In continuation with that we are hopeful to get some more speakers from Fedora. Would it be possible for you to talk a bit more about whether and how the presence last year was helpful ? It was helpful definitely since the number of linux users have grown considerably during the past year. Apart from that we have people who are waiting more events this year. It has helped Fedora to become the most used distro is my college :-), which was openSUSE earlier. So now I want to get some contributors from the college which will not be possible if someone drives it. 1. I would like to know if we can get to some speaker to show their projects like a small hack session with the hope that we may get some contributors to the project. We will provide the necessary requirement for conducting the session How about you doing this yourself ? People listen to me through out the year. It will be better if some one from out side comes. Apart from that I would also like to be in the audience. 2. There is a panel discussion around the topic Free software. Why is it important for students like us to contribute to them. Software Patents.. The number of speakers participating in this event will be 3-4. Interesting mashup of panel talks. -- Roshan Kumar Singh http://roshansingh.wordpress.com http://sourceforge.net/projects/gscribble ___ Fedora-india mailing list Fedora-india@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
