Re: Switching Fedora to pae kernel by default?

2009-01-21 Thread Avi Kivity
Christopher Brown wrote: May I point out that those that care enough to want PAE usually know how to go about getting it enabled whereas those that have install failure because they're running non-PAE hardware probably wont know how to go about getting it disabled. You mean, ordinary users

Re: Switching Fedora to pae kernel by default?

2009-01-20 Thread Avi Kivity
Jeremy Katz wrote: On Monday, January 19 2009, Avi Kivity said: Jeremy Katz wrote: That said, we currently do install the PAE kernel if you have 4 GB+ of RAM[1]. Switching to it by default is problematic because then we're back to using different kernels for different cases

Re: Switching Fedora to pae kernel by default?

2009-01-20 Thread Avi Kivity
Eric Paris wrote: I've got a P3 (Coppermine) with 256M memory running F10. My significant other took it with her to Antarctica (Well F9 has been to Antarctica but it'll be F10 in Antarctica next month). You can only run one app at a time and have to be patient, but it's perfectly usable (and

Re: Switching Fedora to pae kernel by default?

2009-01-20 Thread Avi Kivity
Kyle McMartin wrote: Look, I'm sorry if I'm just not thinking big picture enough here, but what exactly is the use case for a PAE kernel these days? The compat code in x86_64 should be more than good enough for the apps that require an i686 chroot. It's certainly very good. I converted my

Re: Switching Fedora to pae kernel by default?

2009-01-20 Thread Avi Kivity
Kyle McMartin wrote: On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 07:28:10PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: Users won't be running yum. They're running that applet thing. Which just shells out to yum... ;-) Great, but any 'suggestions' need to find their way to the user. I'd prefer to do the right thing

Re: Switching Fedora to pae kernel by default?

2009-01-19 Thread Avi Kivity
Bill Nottingham wrote: Dave Jones (da...@redhat.com) said: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 03:49:20PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: This probably comes up once in a while, thought I'd raise it again. I'd like to suggest switching the default kernel to -PAE on machines that support

Re: Switching Fedora to pae kernel by default?

2009-01-19 Thread Avi Kivity
Jeremy Katz wrote: That said, we currently do install the PAE kernel if you have 4 GB+ of RAM[1]. Switching to it by default is problematic because then we're back to using different kernels for different cases You have that now, don't you? One case for 4GB and one for =4GB. Worse, if you

Re: Switching Fedora to pae kernel by default?

2009-01-19 Thread Avi Kivity
Kyle McMartin wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:23:26AM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: Dave Jones (da...@redhat.com) said: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 03:49:20PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: This probably comes up once in a while, thought I'd raise it again. I'd like to suggest switching