Fedora Weekly News Issue 130

2008-06-09 Thread Max Spevack
The Fedora News Project is pleased to announce the availability of Fedora Weekly News Issue 130. = Fedora Weekly News Issue 130 = Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 130 for the week ending June 8, 2008. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue130 If you are interested in contributing to

Re: Introductions are stupid. Let artwork speak for artist?

2008-06-09 Thread JoergSimon
Am Montag, 9. Juni 2008 10:55:42 schrieb Pavel Shevchuk: I'm pretty sure people who really want to contribute can do it without loudmouth letters, bringing some artwork instead. i have no idea about doing artwork, but very encouraging, really :P -- Jörg Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: F10 theme proposal - Fedora Borealis reloaded

2008-06-09 Thread Nicu Buculei
Joachim Frieben wrote: Back when the F7 default theme was under planning, a vote placed the Borealis theme proposal second to the winning Planet theme and in front of the Flying High theme which would become the F7 theme later on. I am greatly in favour of picking up this great theme again. A

Re: Bear with me -- medium\long term project

2008-06-09 Thread Nicu Buculei
Frank Murphy wrote: http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.c/qx/duffy-coat-arms.htm And then we can choose our favorite weapon, song, sidekick and go kicking some zombie asses? :D :D :D (Used your coat as example, hope you don't mind Mo) After looking at the doyle\murphy coats our hallway

Re: Introductions are stupid. Let artwork speak for artist?

2008-06-09 Thread Pavel Shevchuk
i have no idea about doing artwork, but very encouraging, really :P Me too, that's why i took Mairin's and Martin's graphics and wrote script files around them making splash and login theme. I really wanted to make KDE4 nicer, and i succeeded (well, i hope so) 2008/6/9 JoergSimon [EMAIL

Introductions are stupid. Let artwork speak for artist?

2008-06-09 Thread Pavel Shevchuk
Sorry for being cheeky asshole, but #2 in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork#How_to_Join should be removed, or at least swapped with #3. What's the ratio of people who send introduction letters, and artists who actually contribute something, or at least try hard? I didn't send any introduction

Re: Bear with me -- medium\long term project

2008-06-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 12:07 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.c/qx/duffy-coat-arms.htm And then we can choose our favorite weapon, song, sidekick and go kicking some zombie asses? :D :D :D This ain't no windmill chase :), Frank

Re: Group photo

2008-06-09 Thread Nicu Buculei
Frank Murphy wrote: The only photo I have up webwise ia an ancient one circa mid 80's. http://www.frankly3d.com/family/family.html Ha, ha, ha! I have a photo response, an about 10 years old photo of mine, complete with military uniform and Kalashnikov:

Re: Introductions are stupid. Let artwork speak for artist?

2008-06-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:55 +0300, Pavel Shevchuk wrote: Sorry for being cheeky asshole, but #2 in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork#How_to_Join should be removed, or at least swapped with #3. What's the ratio of people who send introduction letters, and artists who actually contribute

Re: Introductions are stupid. Let artwork speak for artist?

2008-06-09 Thread Nicu Buculei
Pavel Shevchuk wrote: Sorry for being cheeky asshole, but #2 in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork#How_to_Join should be removed, or at least swapped with #3. What's the ratio of people who send Not sure, I think we want to befriend to each other, form a community and such. Communication

Re: Introductions are stupid. Let artwork speak for artist?

2008-06-09 Thread Nicu Buculei
Frank Murphy wrote: Currently am printing out the inkscape manual by Tavmjong Bah, am getting there, but it's a slow road for me, I sleep a lot (http://www.narcolepsy.org.uk/) I hope what you are printing is the draft for the new version (0.16, documenting Inkscape 0.46), as it shows a lot

Re: Bear with me -- medium\long term project

2008-06-09 Thread Nicu Buculei
Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 12:07 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.c/qx/duffy-coat-arms.htm And then we can choose our favorite weapon, song, sidekick and go kicking some zombie asses? :D :D :D This ain't no windmill chase :),

Re: Bear with me -- medium\long term project

2008-06-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 12:40 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 12:07 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.c/qx/duffy-coat-arms.htm And then we can choose our favorite weapon, song, sidekick and go kicking

Re: Introductions are stupid. Let artwork speak for artist?

2008-06-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 12:38 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: Currently am printing out the inkscape manual by Tavmjong Bah, am getting there, but it's a slow road for me, I sleep a lot (http://www.narcolepsy.org.uk/) I hope what you are printing is the draft for the new

Re: Hello; my introduction

2008-06-09 Thread Nicu Buculei
Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi Brian and Carl, Welcome! You may have noticed we have a requirement that you must fulfill before we can approve your request to join the Fedora art group in the Fedora account system: Complete a small design task such as one at the design service queue or email the

Re: Introduction

2008-06-09 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 15:29 -0300, Carl Ellement wrote: Hello! My name is Carl Ellement, from Stoney Creek, Ontario, Canada. I am interested in contributing artwork to the Fedora project, and becoming a contributing member of the artTeam. I have some digital art production experience,

Re: F10 Theme Proposal: Growth

2008-06-09 Thread Brian Jedsen
On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:25:33 +0300 Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Jedsen wrote: I did this up in inkscape and gimp. Let me know what you think. http://omploader.org/vaXZw/growth.png Feel free to use the wiki [1] for uploading such images, its easier for everybody to keep

Re: F10 Theme Proposal: Growth

2008-06-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 06:40 -0700, Brian Jedsen wrote: On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:25:33 +0300 Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I uploaded a proposed image at the wiki. Feedback is much appreciated. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Eden_proposed.jpg Put it on a dual-setup

Re: F10 Theme Proposal: Growth

2008-06-09 Thread Brian Jedsen
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:40:24 +0100 Frank Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 06:40 -0700, Brian Jedsen wrote: On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:25:33 +0300 Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I uploaded a proposed image at the wiki. Feedback is much appreciated.

Re: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 27, Issue 16

2008-06-09 Thread Vincent Rappa
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Re: F10 Theme Proposal: Growth

2008-06-09 Thread Brian Jedsen
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:40:24 +0100 Frank Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 06:40 -0700, Brian Jedsen wrote: On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:25:33 +0300 Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I uploaded a proposed image at the wiki. Feedback is much appreciated.

Re: Introduction

2008-06-09 Thread ryan lerch
Hey Carl! Welcome to the artteam list! A lot of us also hang out in #fedora-art on irc.freenode.net, so feel free to drop in for a chat... :) My name is Carl Ellement, from Stoney Creek, Ontario, Canada. I am interested in contributing artwork to the Fedora project, and becoming a

Re: [Ambassadors] Release Party Contest Winner

2008-06-09 Thread Grady Laksmono
Wow!! I would also like to thanks everyone for the contribution and helps from the Fedora Arts who helped me made the fliers, those of you who contributed with some template presentations, and Chris who have sent me the Fedora books to give out. I also gathered some support on campus with staff,

Re: Font autoinstallation meeting

2008-06-09 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/6/6 Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lets meet Monday June 9th 17:00 UTC in ##fonts on freenode to discuss font autoinstallation in Fedora. Are the logs posted on the web? :-) -- Regards, Dave I support www.gnuherds.org - democratic free software jobs

wiki and nofollow links

2008-06-09 Thread Nicu Buculei
Since we switched from Moin to MediaWiki, all the outgoing links from the wiki have the attribute rel=nofollow, which instructs the search engines to ignore the PageRank value and do not influence the link target's ranking. This attribute was introduced in MediaWiki as a countermeasure

Re: wiki and nofollow links

2008-06-09 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2008-06-09 04:03:46 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: So, based on the argumentation above, my proposal is to trust the users and remove the nofollow attribute. Heh, I don't think we even knew about this being on by default :-). I just disabled it in our configs, and it should take effect in a bit.

Re: Infrastructure Secondary Offerings

2008-06-09 Thread seth vidal
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 10:59 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: So one of the things that has made Fedora's Infrastructure successful is the amount of time we spend getting configs together and tested _before_ we go live with them. Often times re-doing things from scratch multiple times. This works

Re: Infrastructure Secondary Offerings

2008-06-09 Thread Mike McGrath
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, seth vidal wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 10:59 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: people involved understand it. This is a very high barrier but in our case, it's completely worth it. However We do, regularly, have people request hosting from us for various open source

Fwd: [Trac-dev] Genshi 0.5 released (Transformer heads up for Trac plugin authors)

2008-06-09 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
I've pshed Genshi 0.5 into Rawhide (should appear tomorrow). I've been using it locally on some CentOS and Fedora boxes with good success (even with some TG apps I use in-house) but I don't want to break any of the Fedora apps if I don't have to. So, I'll hold off on pushing Genshi 0.5 into

hello people,

2008-06-09 Thread Lokesh Chakka
hello people, I am Lokesh from INDIA. With the view of contributing some code to the open source, I joined in to this group. I thought I have to contribute atleast some thing and not just using the freely available resources. I am working as a developer since while and I am comfortable with

Firmware

2008-06-09 Thread David Woodhouse
Been playing with how I'd make the kernel package deal with the new 'make firmware_install' stuff. Currently looks something like this. I suspect that (for now) we should make the kernel binary packages depend on kernel-firmware? Should the package own the /lib/firmware/ directory? Ideally

Re: Firmware

2008-06-09 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Monday 09 June 2008 06:04:08 am David Woodhouse wrote: Been playing with how I'd make the kernel package deal with the new 'make firmware_install' stuff. Currently looks something like this. I suspect that (for now) we should make the kernel binary packages depend on kernel-firmware?

Re: Firmware

2008-06-09 Thread Jarod Wilson
David Woodhouse wrote: Been playing with how I'd make the kernel package deal with the new 'make firmware_install' stuff. Currently looks something like this. I suspect that (for now) we should make the kernel binary packages depend on kernel-firmware? Yeah, seems the sanest thing to do at

Re: Firmware

2008-06-09 Thread David Woodhouse
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 08:39 -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote: Not quite sure. udev owns it right now. Could have multiple ownership so as to not Requires: udev. Could possibly be something that should move to the filesystem package. I think I might lean toward making that directory owned by

Re: Firmware

2008-06-09 Thread Jarod Wilson
David Woodhouse wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 08:39 -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote: Not quite sure. udev owns it right now. Could have multiple ownership so as to not Requires: udev. Could possibly be something that should move to the filesystem package. I think I might lean toward making that

Re: Firmware

2008-06-09 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jarod Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Ideally we'll want kernel-firmware to be a .noarch.rpm, but we can't get that until we start to build it from a separate srpm. We actually *can* make it noarch without much effort -- remember, the kernel is a special beast that actually does get a

Re: Firmware

2008-06-09 Thread David Woodhouse
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 10:46 -0400, Jon Masters wrote: Another issue that we never really solved was that we really need to have one firmware package per firmware (group) so that others can possibly override their firmware without replacing the entire kernel-firmware package and affecting

Re: Firmware

2008-06-09 Thread David Woodhouse
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 10:51 -0400, Jon Masters wrote: K. I guess I'm just raising it so we're aware of it. It's not exactly a loss, but my fear is that once we make it possible for someone else to replace all the kernel firmware just to update their buggy one, then they'll rush out and do this

Re: Firmware

2008-06-09 Thread Jon Masters
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 15:53 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 10:51 -0400, Jon Masters wrote: K. I guess I'm just raising it so we're aware of it. It's not exactly a loss, but my fear is that once we make it possible for someone else to replace all the kernel firmware

Re: Firmware

2008-06-09 Thread Don Zickus
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 03:15:05PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 09:40 -0400, Don Zickus wrote: On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 11:04:08AM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: Been playing with how I'd make the kernel package deal with the new 'make firmware_install' stuff.

Re: Firmware

2008-06-09 Thread Jarod Wilson
Don Zickus wrote: I suspect that (for now) we should make the kernel binary packages depend on kernel-firmware? Should the package own the /lib/firmware/ directory? Ideally we'll want kernel-firmware to be a .noarch.rpm, but we can't get that until we start to build it from a separate srpm. I

Re: Firmware

2008-06-09 Thread Jarod Wilson
Jarod Wilson wrote: We were trying to do this with RHEL (jcm was working on this). One of the issues I brought up (which no one had a solution for) was the case for a bad firmware for storage devices. Currently they are built into the kernel. So if you stumble upon bad firmware, you just

Re: Firmware

2008-06-09 Thread Don Zickus
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 11:08:57AM -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote: Don Zickus wrote: I suspect that (for now) we should make the kernel binary packages depend on kernel-firmware? Should the package own the /lib/firmware/ directory? Ideally we'll want kernel-firmware to be a .noarch.rpm, but we

Re: Firmware

2008-06-09 Thread Jarod Wilson
Don Zickus wrote: On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 11:08:57AM -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote: Don Zickus wrote: I suspect that (for now) we should make the kernel binary packages depend on kernel-firmware? Should the package own the /lib/firmware/ directory? Ideally we'll want kernel-firmware to be a

Re: make thunderbird NOT show html

2008-06-09 Thread g
Ric Moore wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 00:13 +, g wrote: snip most 'gmail' that comes thru list is 'rich text'. a lot of folks who use gmail, hotmail, and other 'free' email, --- will not bother to set configs and are usually there to hide. --- This bit above. and are usually there to

Re: how to not lock the screen

2008-06-09 Thread g
Michael Hennebry wrote: On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, g wrote: nft. Not for tourists? no telling. interesting times. F S UID PID PPID C PRI NI ADDR SZ WCHAN TTY TIME CMD 4 S 0 1 0 0 80 0 - 528 - ?00:00:13 init so are all of these. but no clue.

Re: how to not lock the screen

2008-06-09 Thread g
Michael Hennebry wrote: I did an experiment. snip Eventually something else blanked the screen and wanted my password. 2 good reasons for what i have 4 suggestions. 1a) if not already level 3, change '/etc/inittab' to *id:3:initdefault:*, reboot. 1b) in 'level 3'; $ mv .kde .kde.old $

Re: make thunderbird NOT show html

2008-06-09 Thread g
David Boles wrote: The paranoia factor maybe? ;-) ric just may be paranoid. using gmail, asking twice. started to see for sure, ie, ask a third time. ;o) -- tc,hago. g . in a free world with out fences, who needs gates... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To

Re: make thunderbird NOT show html

2008-06-09 Thread g
Steve Lindemann wrote: Mike Wright wrote: snip And, while I abhore html mail, you use thunderbird and do not mind out of line sigs. :o) Steve Lindemann __ Network Administrator //\\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Marmot Library Network, Inc. \\//

Test - please ignore

2008-06-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Test - please ignore

2008-06-09 Thread g
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why? -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

compiz w/ i965 video and horrible cpu usage

2008-06-09 Thread John Priddy
I recently just rebuilt a laptop with FC9 from FC8. When I start compiz I get a massive cpu of about 50 and 75%. The culprit always is the Xorg process. Even simple scrolling text (ie. dmesg output) takes about 10 seconds to come back, whereas metacity is instant. When compiz is enabled, i

Re: Booting F9 with NO X11

2008-06-09 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 03:46:14PM -0400, Rick Bilonick wrote: The HP 2133 comes with SUSE Linux but I'm more familiar with Fedora. I will post that information soon. But for now, I should note that Fedora 8 LiveCD booted without any problems. Maybe if you look at the Xorg.conf that SUSE

Re: F9 virt-manager: Alt Gr key and fullscreen?

2008-06-09 Thread Mogens Kjaer
I wrote: ... How do I get the Alt Gr key to work correctly in the guest OS? It looks like a very old problem: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=135381 ... How do I run in full screen? I figured this out: Don't use virt-manager, but connect vncviewer directly: vncviewer

Unknown codec ID 86022, please add here

2008-06-09 Thread Christoph Höger
Hi, above message appears when I try to watch youtube with totem. It results in no sound. Does anyone have a clue which codec needs to be installed and which package ships it? rpm -qa | grep gstreamer gstreamer-plugins-base-devel-0.10.19-2.fc9.i386 totem-gstreamer-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386

Obfuscation is too mild a word :-).

2008-06-09 Thread Tom Horsley
Where in the blue blazes has the settings for the options to run the X server with gone? As near as I can tell, they may just be hard coded in the /usr/libexec/gdm-simple-slave executable? I'm trying to discover two things: 1. How do I add the -dpi 96 option so the greeter will use fonts big

Re: F9 Networkmanager and zeroconf

2008-06-09 Thread hanpingtian
even I close the iptables, NM cannot get IP address from avahi. 2008/6/8 Joonas Sarajärvi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/6/8 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, it seems that avahi daemon running. Do you also have the port open for it? Fedora 9's default iptables configurations seems more strict than Fedora

Re: Booting F9 with NO X11

2008-06-09 Thread Rick Bilonick
On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 23:54 -0700, Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 03:46:14PM -0400, Rick Bilonick wrote: The HP 2133 comes with SUSE Linux but I'm more familiar with Fedora. I will post that information soon. But for now, I should note that Fedora 8 LiveCD booted without

Re: All White Screen With Compiz

2008-06-09 Thread TNWestTex
Tom London wrote: Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:33:37 +0200 From: Robert McBroom (TNWestTex)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: All White Screen With Compiz To: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Trying for the F9 desktop effects on

Still can't run latest update ! livna ?

2008-06-09 Thread linuxguy
I still can't run the latest F9 update due to dependency issues. Is this something I need to fix on my machine or is it something that livna will fix ? Why are the missing dependencies listed as fc8 ? Is there a different way to run yum update that would allow the KDE updates to occur ?

Re: NetworkManager: how to select wireless interface

2008-06-09 Thread Mike C
Andrea mariofutire at googlemail.com writes: I just would like to know if it is possible to choose which interface to use, and in case NM wants to connect both, how do I choose the default gateway? I've seen it chosen at random so far. Equally at some point no doubt someone will want to have

f9 system-config-display - no video cards

2008-06-09 Thread David L
When I run system-config-display on my IBM ThinkCentre under f9, I get the error No video cards were found on this machine, exiting. Any ideas why? Thanks, David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: Still can't run latest update ! livna ?

2008-06-09 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 08:57 -0600, linuxguy wrote: I still can't run the latest F9 update due to dependency issues. Is this something I need to fix on my machine or is it something that livna will fix ? Why are the missing dependencies listed as fc8 ? Is there a different way to run yum

Re: make thunderbird NOT show html

2008-06-09 Thread Robin Laing
Roger Heflin wrote: On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Mike Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, It seems that there are many clueless people who could never write a web page but seem to feel more than qualified to send html mail. I am tired of squinting at itty bitty fonts that are

Re: Thunderbird Contamination

2008-06-09 Thread Robin Laing
Jim wrote: FC 8 , Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 I have a friend that has about 300-400 old email messages laying in his inbox of Thunderbird and when he tries to read New emails they are mixed in with old ones and some of them are blank, it just a big box of sh-t . I removed his emails and AddressBook

kjournald locks up the system periodically in Fedora 9

2008-06-09 Thread stan
Hi, Running up to date Fedora 9. Every so often, kjournald locks up the system due to heavy IO. When it is done, system response returns to normal. Is this normal? Or should I report it as a bug? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: kjournald locks up the system periodically in Fedora 9

2008-06-09 Thread stan
Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 09 June 2008 17:10:32 stan wrote: Hi, Running up to date Fedora 9. Every so often, kjournald locks up the system due to heavy IO. When it is done, system response returns to normal. Is this normal? Or should I report it as a bug? I'd definitely report

dvdrip

2008-06-09 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, Is there a simple way to yum install dvdrip on f8? Are there other dvd ripper available? Thanks FP - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél.

Re: Are usb headphone generic?

2008-06-09 Thread Neal Becker
g wrote: Neal Becker wrote: My logitech usb headphone works fine, but I don't know if a generic USB headphone would work. I'm wondering if this will work on linux: http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/speakers/95dd/ think about what ad says; Simply plug in to your computer USB port,

Re: Firefox 3 beta on Fedora 9 uses lots of IO after start

2008-06-09 Thread stan
Mike Burger wrote: I'm running Fedora 9 with the Firefox 3 beta. After start, Firefox reads and writes heavily to the disk (99.99% in iotop) for almost a minute. Is this known behavior and acceptable or a bug? Keeping in mind that Firefox is now out at 3.0 RC2 (though I can't find an

Re: Still can't run latest update ! livna ?

2008-06-09 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:20 -0600, linuxguy wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 08:42 -0700, Craig White wrote: you need to get rid of the F8 packages here... rpm -e kmod-ndiswrapper kmod-nvidia # there may be more packages # related to kmod-nvidia yum

Re: can't get X to work after installing F9

2008-06-09 Thread Rick Bilonick
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:44 -0400, Vadim Nasardinov wrote: The monitor specs (such as they are) can be found here: http://www.viewsonic.com/support/desktopdisplays/lcddisplays/optiquest/q190mb/index.htm http://www.viewsonic.com/pdf/us_eng/products/LR_Q190mb.pdf

Re: how to start up vncserver w/o login?

2008-06-09 Thread Dave Stevens
On Sunday 08 June 2008 02:57:10 am Mike wrote: Dave Stevens geek at uniserve.com writes: It does and seems as if it would work. I have stopped work on this because it seems vnc is unavoidably unacceptably slow. I use this all the time and it works at an acceptable rate. I tried Freenx

Re: dvdrip

2008-06-09 Thread Germán Racca
Well, with yum you will be able to install dvdrip without problem: yum install dvdrip Other way is to pick the rpm package here: http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/6025655/com/dvdrip-0.98.8-2.fc8.i386.rpm.html I think they are simple ways to install. Or there is another problem? Good

Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-09 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:08 PM, linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using Evolution as my email client since RH8. I hate it because it seems to get confused if one opens up an email or changes mail folders while it is downloading emails from the server. When it does this, it goes

Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-09 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 09 June 2008 19:08:46 linuxguy wrote: My email setup is 6 different gmail accounts, being sorted into about 25 folders via rules.   The largest folder has about 150,000 messages in it.  The smallest one has 5,000 messages in it. Is anyone using Thunderbird like this ?  How does it

Re: Thunderbird Contamination

2008-06-09 Thread Steven Stern
Robin Laing wrote: Jim wrote: FC 8 , Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 I have a friend that has about 300-400 old email messages laying in his inbox of Thunderbird and when he tries to read New emails they are mixed in with old ones and some of them are blank, it just a big box of sh-t . I removed his

Re: kjournald locks up the system periodically in Fedora 9

2008-06-09 Thread stan
stan wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 09 June 2008 17:10:32 stan wrote: Hi, Running up to date Fedora 9. Every so often, kjournald locks up the system due to heavy IO. When it is done, system response returns to normal. Is this normal? Or should I report it as a bug? I'd

Re: DNS: Can public and private data be hosted by the same server?

2008-06-09 Thread Dan Thurman
On Sunday 08 June 2008 08:18:50 am Tim wrote: NB: This is *NOT* a top posting list. Edward: Is there a sample for reference ? Yes, in the manuals (/usr/share/doc/bind*/).  It has instructions and examples. I want to know what different between IP address and INT eth ? ... An example

Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-09 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 12:08 -0600, linuxguy wrote: I've been using Evolution as my email client since RH8. I hate it because it seems to get confused if one opens up an email or changes mail folders while it is downloading emails from the server. When it does this, it goes into a death

Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-09 Thread linuxguy
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 19:21 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 09 June 2008 19:08:46 linuxguy wrote: My email setup is 6 different gmail accounts, being sorted into about 25 folders via rules. The largest folder has about 150,000 messages in it. The smallest one has 5,000 messages in

Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-09 Thread Stuart Sears
linuxguy wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 19:21 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 09 June 2008 19:08:46 linuxguy wrote: My email setup is 6 different gmail accounts, being sorted into about 25 folders via rules. The largest folder has about 150,000 messages in it. The smallest one has 5,000

Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-09 Thread Bill Davidsen
linuxguy wrote: I've been using Evolution as my email client since RH8. I hate it because it seems to get confused if one opens up an email or changes mail folders while it is downloading emails from the server. When it does this, it goes into a death spiral of saving folder and Retrieving

Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-09 Thread Chris
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:31:54 -0600 linuxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 19:21 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 09 June 2008 19:08:46 linuxguy wrote: My email setup is 6 different gmail accounts, being sorted into about 25 folders via rules. The largest folder has

Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-09 Thread Dan Thurman
On Monday 09 June 2008 11:08:46 am linuxguy wrote: I've been using Evolution as my email client since RH8.  I hate it because it seems to get confused if one opens up an email or changes [snip!] Is anyone using Thunderbird like this ?  How does it compare ?  How hard is it to move over to it

Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-09 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 09 June 2008 19:31:54 linuxguy wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 19:21 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 09 June 2008 19:08:46 linuxguy wrote: My email setup is 6 different gmail accounts, being sorted into about 25 folders via rules. The largest folder has about 150,000 messages

Re: live CD root password?? -- UPDATE : real oddity

2008-06-09 Thread Bill Davidsen
Beartooth Sciurivore wrote: On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:33:23 -0700, Mick M. wrote: to be root su - note the minus sign. Then passwd enter roots new password twice. Then when you need it just type it in. A lot of CD releases you have to sudo to do root stuff. e.g. sudo fdisk -l Yes, I know

Re: NetworkManager: how to select wireless interface

2008-06-09 Thread Bill Davidsen
Mike C wrote: Andrea mariofutire at googlemail.com writes: I just would like to know if it is possible to choose which interface to use, and in case NM wants to connect both, how do I choose the default gateway? I've seen it chosen at random so far. Equally at some point no doubt someone

Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-09 Thread Arthur Pemberton
2008/6/9 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday 09 June 2008 19:56:51 Dan Thurman wrote: 2) I have tried Kmail and again, it has it's own set of problems, one involving threads, Such as? KMail used to crash a lot, and was terrible at filtering. And then got ignored quite a bit with 4.0

Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-09 Thread Nataraj
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:56 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: On Monday 09 June 2008 11:08:46 am linuxguy wrote: I've been using Evolution as my email client since RH8. I hate it because it seems to get confused if one opens up an email or changes [snip!] Is anyone using Thunderbird like this ?

Thunderbird and attachments

2008-06-09 Thread Antonio M
I am attaching images to be printed elsewhere. When they are received, sometimes they are not completed (a part of image is greyed). Shall I blameThunderbird or my ISP Tnx -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: NetworkManager: how to select wireless interface

2008-06-09 Thread Timothy Murphy
Bill Davidsen wrote: NM has been around since FC6, people have had these complaints since FC6, nothing has gotten better since FC6. Actually, since some system-config tools have been removed, things have gotten worse. There is no good documentation, there is only a raft of incomplete and in

Re: Backup Options

2008-06-09 Thread Jorge Luis
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 03:10:25PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Srikanth Konjarla wrote: All, I use Fedora on my laptop which is primarily for business purposes. So, i like to get the data backup from laptop to home desktop machine (over ssh) and trying to find

A simple question about rsyslog.conf

2008-06-09 Thread Ambrogio De Lorenzo
Hi all, I would like to create a file in /var/log using the rsyslog. The problem is that I don't understand how to do it. standing that the program log messages using the LOCAL6 facility I added a simple line local6.* /var/log/myfile But in this way I have the message logged in myfile, but

Re: Packagekit Update Applet

2008-06-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: Is there any way to tell Packagekit Update Applet not to check for new versions of nspluginwrapper (or anything else for that matter). The latest version of nspluginwrapper is broken (That's another issue.), and it would be nice if Packagekit Update Applet would stop

Re: dvdrip

2008-06-09 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 09.06.2008 20:05, Germán Racca a écrit : | Well, with yum you will be able to install dvdrip without problem: yum | install dvdrip ]# yum install dvdrip Loading allowdowngrade plugin Loading fastestmirror plugin Loading mirror speeds from cached

Re: dvdrip

2008-06-09 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
François Patte wrote: Le 09.06.2008 20:05, Germán Racca a écrit : | Well, with yum you will be able to install dvdrip without problem: yum | install dvdrip ]# yum install dvdrip Loading allowdowngrade plugin Loading fastestmirror plugin Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile ~ * fedora:

Re: dvdrip

2008-06-09 Thread Germán Racca
You can manage the dependencies in the following way, downloading dvdrip-0.98.8-2.fc8.i386 into your HD and then invoking yum to install: yum install dvdrip-0.98.8-2.fc8.i386, so yum will resolve all the dependencies it needs to finally install your rpm package. Does it help? I do not know, but

Re: dvdrip

2008-06-09 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 09.06.2008 22:23, Germán Racca a écrit : | You can manage the dependencies in the following way, downloading | dvdrip-0.98.8-2.fc8.i386 into your HD | and then invoking yum to install: | | yum install dvdrip-0.98.8-2.fc8.i386, | | so yum will

Re: Thunderbird Contamination

2008-06-09 Thread Steven Stern
Jim wrote: Steven Stern wrote: Robin Laing wrote: Jim wrote: FC 8 , Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 I have a friend that has about 300-400 old email messages laying in his inbox of Thunderbird and when he tries to read New emails they are mixed in with old ones and some of them are blank, it just a

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