Re: [Echo] system-file-manager icons draft

2008-06-21 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 15:45 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: A quick trace of system-file-manager icons (16x16 and 48x48) using metallic colours. They might need some fix on outlines. Any comments? Luya Reference: http://luya.fedorapeople.org/echo/applications Just a few

Re: Echo Icons Tutorial - Working with Git

2008-06-21 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 11:32 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: Martin, Hi Paul, Would you be inclined to make a Fedora wiki page out of this? It could be a lot of help to all the non-developer communities in Fedora that want to make use of git in their project work. For instance, the Fedora

[Bug 452357] New: The mathml-fonts package needs some cleaning up

2008-06-21 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452357 Summary: The mathml-fonts package needs some cleaning up Product: Fedora Version:

Fedora x86_64 rawhide rebuild in mock status 2008-05-27

2008-06-21 Thread Matt Domsch
Fedora Rawhide-in-Mock Build Results for x86_64 based on rawhide as of 5-27-2008 (it takes a few days to build 5700 packages twice). There is a proposal before FESCo to remove packages that Fail To Build From Source (FTBFS)[1] from the distribution, if the package owner has no bug comments

Fedora i386 rawhide rebuild in mock status 2008-05-27

2008-06-21 Thread Matt Domsch
Fedora Rawhide-in-Mock Build Results for i386 based on rawhide as of 5-27-2008 (it takes a few days to build 5700 packages twice). There is a proposal before FESCo to remove packages that Fail To Build From Source (FTBFS)[1] from the distribution, if the package owner has no bug comments

Fedora x86_64 rawhide rebuild in mock status 2008-06-01

2008-06-21 Thread Matt Domsch
Fedora Rawhide-in-Mock Build Results for x86_64 based on rawhide as of 01-June-2008. Bugs will be automatically filed for each of the failures below, if there is not already a bug that (recursively) blocks the master FTBFS bug. If your package fails due to a bug in another package, be sure there

[Bug 430240] [RHEL4] Liberation fonts need to be updated to latest font

2008-06-21 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [RHEL4] Liberation fonts need to be updated to latest font https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=430240 Bug 430240 depends on bug 427791, which changed

Re: Introduction: Jeroen van Meeuwen

2008-06-21 Thread Jon Stanley
Welcome! Happy to see you here as well! -Jon another lurker here and I have to use quotes in my name to be like Jef Stanley On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, although I've been around in Fedora land for quite a while, lurking on this list

Re: fedora 9: left handed mouse after resuming from hibernate

2008-06-21 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 17:56 +0200, fedora wrote: my workaround: after resuming, run the following script: Have you tried putting your script into one of the power management script directories [1], so it gets run automatically? Obviously the real fault should be fixed, but in the meantime...

exception error

2008-06-21 Thread zayakh
hello all expert i have a problem when i installing Fedora 9 in my workstatioin. this error : insert disk2 into my cdrom after exception erro. select: ok, save, debug. what should i do? help me. thanks, zaya -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To

Re: OT: need javascript/DOM help

2008-06-21 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 14:09 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: Are there any javascript/DOM gurus out there who can tell me why the html page below finds the p tag and the div tag but ignores the a tag. p id='m'/p a id='a'/a p id='p'/p div id='v'/div I don't do scripting, but plenty of

Re: Web page problem

2008-06-21 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 11:35 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: I have setup a softlink from /var/www/html/gene/linkname That points to another directory here, owned by a different user. All that has been chown'ed to apache:apache as I just noted some of it was owned by root. For what it's worth,

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread g
Craig White wrote: snip I have a lot of machines running Fedora 8 / KDE and none experience the issue you are talking about. I suspect there is a problem with your installation because that is not an issue with Fedora 8/KDE. not an issue for you, yet in a couple of past post, i do believe

Re: OT: need javascript/DOM help

2008-06-21 Thread Bassel Safadi
I don't do scripting, but plenty of plain HTML. Just wondering if your browser is one of those that ignores empty elements? (That sort of thing, links to empty anchors being ignored, was an old complaint.) If you added some content, does it start to work. e.g. a id=asomething/a actually

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 21 June 2008 00:47:24 Mike Bird wrote: The other distros are supporting both KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.x for one to three years.  This allows people to migrate once KDE 4.x meets their needs.   As I mentioned elsewhere, I have one system that has both 3.5 and 4.0 running. Compromises are

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 20 June 2008 23:53:47 Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: I saw no one stating nothing like that. The blame some people have put on Fedora was for shipping an incomplete KDE4 when there was the option to ship the fully functional KDE 3.5.9. These people said that Fedora should have waited

Re: fedora 9: left handed mouse after resuming from hibernate

2008-06-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 15:32 +0930, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 17:56 +0200, fedora wrote: my workaround: after resuming, run the following script: Have you tried putting your script into one of the power management script directories [1], so it gets run automatically? Obviously the

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 10:48 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 20 June 2008 23:53:47 Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: I saw no one stating nothing like that. The blame some people have put on Fedora was for shipping an incomplete KDE4 when there was the option to ship the fully functional KDE

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 21 June 2008 12:16:20 Craig White wrote: My first reaction to finding that I didn't have desktop icons for my nfs shares was a feeling of loss, yet I can open those shares in either dolphin or konqueror, so it's really no more than a minor inconvenience.  The same goes for most

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 12:34 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 21 June 2008 12:16:20 Craig White wrote: My first reaction to finding that I didn't have desktop icons for my nfs shares was a feeling of loss, yet I can open those shares in either dolphin or konqueror, so it's really no

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 21 June 2008 12:58:11 Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 12:34 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 21 June 2008 12:16:20 Craig White wrote: My first reaction to finding that I didn't have desktop icons for my nfs shares was a feeling of loss, yet I can open those

Re: Canon LBP 2900 drives me crazy

2008-06-21 Thread Bassel Safadi
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Bruce Byfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 01:46 +0200, Bassel Safadi wrote: You may have already thought of this idea, but is the LBP 2900 a postscript printer? If so, you can use the Foomatic generic postscript driver, or the driver for

Downloading everything under .../Everything .../Fedora

2008-06-21 Thread Frank Murphy
What is the best method to download everything under the ../Everything .../Fedora from one of the mirrors wget? waht options Need the F9 stuff for testing. Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 13:04 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 21 June 2008 12:58:11 Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 12:34 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 21 June 2008 12:16:20 Craig White wrote: My first reaction to finding that I didn't have desktop icons for my

Re: Downloading everything under .../Everything .../Fedora

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Frank Murphy wrote: What is the best method to download everything under the ../Everything .../Fedora from one of the mirrors wget? waht options Need the F9 stuff for testing. Why would you want to download 'everything'? To fill up space on your hard drive? ;-) Seriously. That would be

Re: openoffice + postgresql-jdbc

2008-06-21 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
Bassel Safadi wrote: What magic is needed to make the openoffice-base program recognize the postgresql-jdbc driver? Just googled your question and found this step by step tutorial:

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 21 June 2008 13:23:59 Craig White wrote: As Timothy Murphy will tell you, I am pretty adamant that the Internet provides too many confusing LDAP walk-throughs that don't correlate with each other and will typically lead to frustration and the most simple way to learn LDAP is Gerald

Re: Canon LBP 2900 drives me crazy

2008-06-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 21 June 2008 13:22:30 Bassel Safadi wrote: I've tried the Apple LaserWriter II driver it work but the printer isn't printing :( very strange I've seen this mentioned before as a workaround, but the only time I needed to try it I couldn't get it to work. Nothing unusual in

Re: Downloading everything under .../Everything .../Fedora

2008-06-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 08:32 -0400, David Boles wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: What is the best method to download everything under the ../Everything .../Fedora from one of the mirrors wget? waht options Need the F9 stuff for testing. Why would you want to download 'everything'? To

Re: Canon LBP 2900 drives me crazy [SOLVED]

2008-06-21 Thread Bassel Safadi
Using the CAPT 1.7 http://support-in.canon-asia.com/EN/search?canonsearch=1lang=ENcategory=Laser+Printersseries=Monochromemodel=LBP2900menu=Download . as T. V. Sivaraman's suggestion Solved the problem the printer is printing now :) Thank you every body -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: Web page problem

2008-06-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 21 June 2008, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 11:35 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: I have setup a softlink from /var/www/html/gene/linkname That points to another directory here, owned by a different user. All that has been chown'ed to apache:apache as I just noted some of it was

Re: Downloading everything under .../Everything .../Fedora

2008-06-21 Thread Howard Wilkinson
Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 08:32 -0400, David Boles wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: What is the best method to download everything under the ../Everything .../Fedora from one of the mirrors wget? waht options Need the F9 stuff for testing. Why would you want to

asus f3sr audio on fedora 9

2008-06-21 Thread David Hláčik
Hello, i have Fedora 9 x86_64 on my Asus F3Sr notebook with all updates and my audio is not working: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) Thanks, -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Timothy Murphy
Arthur Pemberton wrote: They'll wait till Fedora users and other similar early adopters have helped iron out the bugs. Kinda like Pulse Audio, NetworkManager, etc I fear that will be a very long wait ... Actually, NM has been getting slowly but steadily better on my machines. It would have

Re: Downloading everything under .../Everything .../Fedora

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 08:32 -0400, David Boles wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: What is the best method to download everything under the ../Everything .../Fedora from one of the mirrors wget? waht options Need the F9 stuff for testing. Why would you want to download

Re: Downloading everything under .../Everything .../Fedora

2008-06-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 16:15 +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 13:44 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: Basically at the moment I know it's not \*usb\* or \*mouse\* is my problem, everything else I need to test one package at a time :) The upside is I may eventually be able to

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Timothy Murphy
Mike Bird wrote: Please see the subject of this thread. Those of us who are switching are doing so because the answer to the question was negative. We didn't randomly upgrade our production systems. We tested F9 and determined that KDE 4.x is not ready for prime time. I don't understand

Re: Downloading everything under .../Everything .../Fedora

2008-06-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 09:21 -0400, David Boles wrote: But do you really need all of the office suites? All of GNOME? Or KDE? Or Apache? All of the language packages? ;-) And Anne is correct here. Fedora has said before that some things just don't play together well. If you are looking

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Timothy Murphy wrote: Arthur Pemberton wrote: They'll wait till Fedora users and other similar early adopters have helped iron out the bugs. Kinda like Pulse Audio, NetworkManager, etc I fear that will be a very long wait ... Actually, NM has been getting slowly but steadily better on my

6/20/2008 updates kill Rhytymbox/mplayer sound

2008-06-21 Thread Max Pyziur
Greetings, Just did a yum update and then trying to play an mp3 or m4a file I get the following error message: *** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to create stream. [AO_ALSA] Unable to set hw-parameters: Input/output error [AO OSS] audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy

Re: Downloading everything under .../Everything .../Fedora

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 09:21 -0400, David Boles wrote: But do you really need all of the office suites? All of GNOME? Or KDE? Or Apache? All of the language packages? ;-) And Anne is correct here. Fedora has said before that some things just don't play together well.

Re: Downloading everything under .../Everything .../Fedora

2008-06-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 09:42 -0400, David Boles wrote: http://www.howtoforge.com/creating_a_local_yum_repository_centos or question #11 here http://wiki.linux.duke.edu/YumFaq As for keeping the downloaded packages? change keepcache=0 to keepcache=1 in the yum.conf file That's the

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Timothy Murphy
Anne Wilson wrote: LDAP does feel a bit daunting. I feel that it should be possible to learn and activate one bit of its potential at a time, but after reading a couple of web pages about it I gave up. Does the book you mention lead you in reasonably slowly? I've rather a lot on my plate

Re: bootable failed sw raid 1 with F9

2008-06-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
I took a look at grub-install and it looked like it was supposed to handle raid 1 in Fedora 9. I ran the script in debug mode and it looks like it did the right thing. I didn't test pulling disks after running it to make sure though. So maybe there is something else going on here. -- fedora-list

David S Wiener is out of the office.

2008-06-21 Thread David S Wiener
I will be out of the office starting Sat 06/21/2008 and will not return until Sun 06/29/2008. I will respond to your message when I return. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Timothy Murphy
Mike Bird wrote: The difference, Kevin, is that Kubuntu shipped KDE 4.x a month before Fedora and will support KDE 3.5 nine months after Fedora ends support. Kubuntu is providing people with three times the transition period that Fedora is offering. Debian will probably go even further. I

Re: Memory, swap, and limits

2008-06-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 09:50:37 -0700, Rick Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your RAM is heavily fragmented or heavily used, the system may find it difficult to locate adequate contiguous RAM and spend a lot of time swapping things to disk and back as tasks compete for the free RAM. For

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Timothy Murphy
g wrote: i am using f8 and from what i have been thru and still going thru, i must say that f8 is not a whole lot better than what i am reading that f9 is like. ... when ever i go to shut down kde, i play a guessing game with it. should i bother with 'log out' or go ahead and press

Re: ssh tunnel problems

2008-06-21 Thread Rick Bilonick
On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 23:01 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: Rick Bilonick wrote: I'm using Fedora 8 on a server behind a firewall (with incoming ssh blocked) and my computer at home. I did the following on the server: ssh -R 5000:localhost:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Timothy Murphy
David Boles wrote: Chill out guy. All you are hearing is the sour grapes. The 'happiest' never post. Except for Anne. Maybe happy pills should be circulated with Linux distributions ... Seriously, I think Anne is too kind. I am genuinely puzzled by the minor problems that came with KDE-4. It

Re: ssh tunnel problems

2008-06-21 Thread Rick Bilonick
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 10:22 -0400, Rick Bilonick wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 23:01 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: Rick Bilonick wrote: I'm using Fedora 8 on a server behind a firewall (with incoming ssh blocked) and my computer at home. I did the following on the server:

Re: Downloading everything under .../Everything .../Fedora

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 09:42 -0400, David Boles wrote: http://www.howtoforge.com/creating_a_local_yum_repository_centos or question #11 here http://wiki.linux.duke.edu/YumFaq As for keeping the downloaded packages? change keepcache=0 to keepcache=1 in the yum.conf file

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Timothy Murphy wrote: David Boles wrote: Chill out guy. All you are hearing is the sour grapes. The 'happiest' never post. Except for Anne. Maybe happy pills should be circulated with Linux distributions ... Seriously, I think Anne is too kind. I am genuinely puzzled by the minor problems

Re: Downloading everything under .../Everything .../Fedora

2008-06-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 10:30 -0400, David Boles wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 09:42 -0400, David Boles wrote: http://www.howtoforge.com/creating_a_local_yum_repository_centos or question #11 here http://wiki.linux.duke.edu/YumFaq As for keeping the downloaded

Re: bootable failed sw raid 1 with F9

2008-06-21 Thread Sander Hoentjen
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 09:01 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: I took a look at grub-install and it looked like it was supposed to handle raid 1 in Fedora 9. I ran the script in debug mode and it looks like it did the right thing. I didn't test pulling disks after running it to make sure though.

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 16:26 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: David Boles wrote: Chill out guy. All you are hearing is the sour grapes. The 'happiest' never post. Except for Anne. Maybe happy pills should be circulated with Linux distributions ... Seriously, I think Anne is too kind. I am

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 15:57 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: LDAP does feel a bit daunting. I feel that it should be possible to learn and activate one bit of its potential at a time, but after reading a couple of web pages about it I gave up. Does the book you mention

Desktop panels in Gnome

2008-06-21 Thread Max Pyziur
Greetings, I keep two screenwide panels at the bottom of the desktop. On login, sometimes one is above the other, sometimes the other one is above. How do I make the setting permanent rather than have this variableness? Thanks. Max Pyziur [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: 6/20/2008 updates kill Rhytymbox/mplayer sound

2008-06-21 Thread Max Pyziur
I guess F9 has self-correcting gremlins installed. I rebooted and these sound problems are not occurring. Furthermore, with 6/20/2008 update sound is now avilable with flash for things like youtube videos. I did install xmms-pulse-0.9.4-5.fc9.1.x86_64 before the reboot. I also tried setting

Can't get flash-plugin working in FF3 ??

2008-06-21 Thread William Case
Hi; The subject of media has been something I have avoided, so I am a newbie at understanding what I might be doing wrong. I am running F9 -x86_64 and FireFox3. Yum shows me flash-plugin (Adobe Flash Plugin 9.0.124.0 arch i386) is installed. Firefox 'about:plugin' shows me flash-plugin is NOT

Re: Can't get flash-plugin working in FF3 ??

2008-06-21 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Sat, 6/21/08, William Case [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: William Case [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Can't get flash-plugin working in FF3 ?? To: Fedora List fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 8:43 AM Hi; The subject of media has been something I have avoided, so I

Re: Can't get flash-plugin working in FF3 ??

2008-06-21 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 11:43 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi; The subject of media has been something I have avoided, so I am a newbie at understanding what I might be doing wrong. I am running F9 -x86_64 and FireFox3. Yum shows me flash-plugin (Adobe Flash Plugin 9.0.124.0 arch i386) is

Re: Can't get flash-plugin working in FF3 ??

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
William Case wrote: Hi; The subject of media has been something I have avoided, so I am a newbie at understanding what I might be doing wrong. I am running F9 -x86_64 and FireFox3. Yum shows me flash-plugin (Adobe Flash Plugin 9.0.124.0 arch i386) is installed. Firefox 'about:plugin' shows

Re: QOS

2008-06-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 16:43:11 +0200, Luc MAIGNAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, What is the easyest way to limit bandwitdh usage for an IP address on my network ? You haven't adequately described your problem well enough to provide a good answer to that. And most likely that isn't the

Re: Can't get flash-plugin working in FF3 ??

2008-06-21 Thread William Case
Thanks Chris; On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 09:56 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 11:43 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi; The subject of media has been something I have avoided, so I am a newbie at understanding what I might be doing wrong. I am running F9 -x86_64

Re: Downloading everything under .../Everything .../Fedora

2008-06-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 13:24:02 +0100, Frank Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the best method to download everything under the ../Everything .../Fedora from one of the mirrors wget? waht options Need the F9 stuff for testing. I have local mirrors of f9 final, f9 updates and f9

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 16:15 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Isn't ctrl-alt-backspace meant to kill X, rather than shutdown? (I could be wrong as I never use it.) Ctrl-Alt-Backspace kills the X server. It's not clear to me whether there is any practical difference between doing that and hitting a

Re: Desktop panels in Gnome

2008-06-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 11:34 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: Greetings, I keep two screenwide panels at the bottom of the desktop. On login, sometimes one is above the other, sometimes the other one is above. How do I make the setting permanent rather than have this variableness? I believe at

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Marcelo Magno T. Sales
Em Sábado 21 Junho 2008, Patrick O'Callaghan escreveu: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 16:15 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Isn't ctrl-alt-backspace meant to kill X, rather than shutdown? (I could be wrong as I never use it.) Ctrl-Alt-Backspace kills the X server. It's not clear to me whether there is

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 4:41 AM, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 21 June 2008 00:47:24 Mike Bird wrote: The other distros are supporting both KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.x for one to three years. This allows people to migrate once KDE 4.x meets their needs. As I mentioned elsewhere,

Re: Desktop panels in Gnome

2008-06-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 11:34 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: Greetings, ... How do I make the setting permanent rather than have this variableness? I believe at the moment you can't. It's a bug. I have a similar problem.

How to boot from floppy to install Fedora 9 from CD?

2008-06-21 Thread cjakeman
Hi, I've downloaded Fedora 9 and burned onto 6 CDs in ISO format hoping to install on an old PC in place of WinME. I find that the PC won't boot from the CD drive - probably too old. How can I proceed? Do I need boot.img? Where can I get it from? Thanks, Chris -- This is an email sent via

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 10:41 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: Arthur - you wrote They'll wait till Fedora users and other similar early adopters have helped iron out the bugs. Kinda like Pulse Audio, NetworkManager, etc. Yes, someone has to be an early adopter for bugs to be ironed out. By that

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 09:35 -0400, David Boles wrote: Pulseaudio is supposed to allow you to set the volume level(s) of various applications/output devices so that they can be different. Music soft. Ta-Ta! loud. As well as others. What is not so functional is the applications that are not yet

Re: How to boot from floppy to install Fedora 9 from CD?

2008-06-21 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:58:32 +0200 cjakeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I proceed? Do I need boot.img? Where can I get it from? The Fedora boot disk got too big to fit on any floppy disk some time ago. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 13:50 -0300, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: CTRL+ALT+BS kills X and the graphical login manager too, so it re-reads the xorg.conf file (if you have altered it, this is needed), reload video drivers (if you have updated it, this is needed) and reload the xdm/gdm/kdm

Re: ssh tunnel problems

2008-06-21 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 10:22 -0400, Rick Bilonick wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] -p 5000 -v OpenSSH_4.7p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8b 04 May 2006 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Applying options for * debug1: Connecting to localhost [127.0.0.1] port 5000.

Re: Desktop panels in Gnome

2008-06-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 11:57 -0500, Tom Browder wrote: On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 11:34 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: Greetings, ... How do I make the setting permanent rather than have this variableness? I believe at

Re: How to boot from floppy to install Fedora 9 from CD?

2008-06-21 Thread Les Mikesell
cjakeman wrote: Hi, I've downloaded Fedora 9 and burned onto 6 CDs in ISO format hoping to install on an old PC in place of WinME. I find that the PC won't boot from the CD drive - probably too old. How can I proceed? Do I need boot.img? Where can I get it from? The boot.img you need for a

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 02:40 +0930, Tim wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 09:35 -0400, David Boles wrote: Pulseaudio is supposed to allow you to set the volume level(s) of various applications/output devices so that they can be different. Music soft. Ta-Ta! loud. As well as others. What is not

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 13:50 -0300, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: Em Sábado 21 Junho 2008, Patrick O'Callaghan escreveu: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 16:15 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Isn't ctrl-alt-backspace meant to kill X, rather than shutdown? (I could be wrong as I never use it.)

Re: How to boot from floppy to install Fedora 9 from CD?

2008-06-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cjakeman wrote: Hi, I've downloaded Fedora 9 and burned onto 6 CDs in ISO format hoping to install on an old PC in place of WinME. I find that the PC won't boot from the CD drive - probably too old. A machine that old

Re: ssh tunnel problems

2008-06-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 02:55 +0930, Tim wrote: Again, don't fall down the looking in the mirror trap by trying to connect to 127.0.0.1. That's the numerical address for a machine to refer to itself. You're playing with the local loopback device. 127.0.0.1 is the traditional IP address for

Re: 6/20/2008 updates kill Rhytymbox/mplayer sound

2008-06-21 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 11:32 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: I guess F9 has self-correcting gremlins installed. I rebooted and these sound problems are not occurring. Furthermore, with 6/20/2008 update sound is now avilable with flash for things like youtube videos. on F9, the thing that made

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 02:40 +0930, Tim wrote: Totally agree with this. It's hard enough even figuring out what the various mixer controls even control. It is a choice. If you, either of you, do not like it you should disable it. But I seriously doubt that

Re: ssh tunnel problems

2008-06-21 Thread Kevin Martin
Rick Bilonick wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 23:01 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: Rick Bilonick wrote: I'm using Fedora 8 on a server behind a firewall (with incoming ssh blocked) and my computer at home. I did the following on the server: ssh -R 5000:localhost:22 [EMAIL

Re: exception error

2008-06-21 Thread Bassel Safadi
On 6/21/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello all expert i have a problem when i installing Fedora 9 in my workstatioin. this error : insert disk2 into my cdrom after exception erro. select: ok, save, debug. what should i do? help me. thanks, zaya --

Re: totally offtopic (race to make car that runs on tap water)

2008-06-21 Thread Robert
Ric Moore wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 18:44 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: Yeah, exactly. And if you buy in the next 4 hours, we'll include a fantastic solar powered clothes dryer. Careful - there are sound useful reasons for solar powered clothes driers that go via electricity or steam first.

Re: Canon LBP 2900 drives me crazy [SOLVED]

2008-06-21 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 16:09 +0300, Bassel Safadi wrote: http://support-in.canon-asia.com/EN/search?canonsearch=1lang=ENcategory=Laser+Printersseries=Monochromemodel=LBP2900menu=Download. I'm glad you found a solution. You might want to take a moment to go to the Linux Printing site and update

Starting RAID on boot

2008-06-21 Thread James Thorpe
Hi list, I've configured two drives in a machine for RAID1, and once the machine is up and running I can mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 mount /dev/md0 /mirror No problems. My question is - how do I get it to do this automatically on boot? I've found references to /etc/init.d/mdadm, but that

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 14:36 -0400, David Boles wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 02:40 +0930, Tim wrote: Totally agree with this. It's hard enough even figuring out what the various mixer controls even control. It is a choice. If you, either of you, do not like

Re: Starting RAID on boot

2008-06-21 Thread Sam Varshavchik
James Thorpe writes: Hi list, I've configured two drives in a machine for RAID1, and once the machine is up and running I can mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 mount /dev/md0 /mirror No problems. My question is - how do I get it to do this automatically on boot? I've found references to

Re: Canon LBP 2900 drives me crazy [SOLVED]

2008-06-21 Thread Bassel Safadi
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:24 AM, Bassel Safadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 10:23 PM, Bruce Byfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm glad you found a solution. You might want to take a moment to go to the Linux Printing site and update the information on the printer model,

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 14:36 -0400, David Boles wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 02:40 +0930, Tim wrote: Totally agree with this. It's hard enough even figuring out what the various mixer controls even control. It is a choice. If you, either

Re: Canon LBP 2900 drives me crazy [SOLVED]

2008-06-21 Thread Bassel Safadi
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 10:23 PM, Bruce Byfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm glad you found a solution. You might want to take a moment to go to the Linux Printing site and update the information on the printer model, so that others don't have to go through the same difficulties you've had.

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 14:36 -0400, David Boles wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 02:40 +0930, Tim wrote: Totally agree with this. It's hard enough even figuring out what the various mixer

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread g
Timothy Murphy wrote: when ever i go to shut down kde, i play a guessing game with it. should i bother with 'log out' or go ahead and press ctrl+alt+bkspc, which, by the way, fails almost as often as 'log out'. Seems to me you ought to clarify your problem, eg what do you mean by log out?

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread g
Craig White wrote: It was started again virtually from scratch (KDE-4) from where do you find this information? -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mike Bird mgb-fedora at yosemite.net writes: I'm expecting KDE 4.2 or KDE 4.3 to be suitable for prime time. They should arrive in Fedora in May 2009 and November 2009. I can't promise anything at this time (also because upstream hasn't decided on a schedule for 4.2 yet, at least not that I

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Craig White craigwhite at azapple.com writes: People who do software development wouldn't care whether it's KDE 3.5 or KDE 4 Actually they'll want KDE 4. Who wants to develop against an obsolete API? Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

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