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for everyone who doesnt want to load up inkscape
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Hi,
I'm afraid these answers are utterly unconvincing. I've just checked
Debian made the very same analysis as us, and you're on your way to get
yourself blacklisted in all major Linux distributions.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/texlive-extra/+bug/135911/comments/3
In case that's
Hey,
I have been inactive for sometime but I have been closely monitoring
and reading up on the wiki and am willing to help with any project that is
python related. So please let me know if something need be done.
regards
Jose M Manimala
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On 25 July 2008, seth vidal wrote:
But as you've already mentioned we're stuck with the question of EOL'd
releases and how to deal with things deeply out of date.
I can make yum throw out warnings and alerts but at what point does it
actually STOP doing anything and does that not open us
On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 13:06 -0400, Josh Bressers wrote:
This is of course a policy decision that can be dictated via a
configuration file.
But our default is what people will use which is what we need to get
straight.
There is also the issue of what happens when the
client keeps getting
Les Mikesell wrote:
You aren't paranoid enough. What if the spoofer is also a system
administrator at the bank with access to a copy of the real certificate
that he installs on the machine he's tricked your dns into reaching -
with the expected name that you'll still see.
Then the bank has
On Jul 26, 2008, Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.cmake.org/HTML/index.html
That one should suffice.
Nope. It offers the features, and even in a desirable fashion, but it
doesn't preclude anyone from rewriting all the intelligence encoded in
configure.ac and Makefile.am
On Jul 26, 2008, Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alexandre Oliva wrote:
2. You may [...] provided that you also meet all of these conditions
There's no room to interpret that as saying or some other license
you found on some web page
There's no denying of this possibility, and
Björn Persson wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
You aren't paranoid enough. What if the spoofer is also a system
administrator at the bank with access to a copy of the real certificate
that he installs on the machine he's tricked your dns into reaching -
with the expected name that you'll still see.
On Jul 26, 2008, Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Your wording is too ambiguous and you associate unusual politics with
some of those words so I have no idea what you intend.
Tell me which words, and I'll point out they're present in the GPL as
well, and you don't seem to have any trouble
On Jul 24, 2008, Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alexandre Oliva wrote:
it has always been immoral to demand that others give up their rights.
Taking away legitimate rights, yes, that would be immoral.
Taking away any right is immoral.
Like, let's say, taking away one's right to
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 13:25 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote:
Hello all,
I'm trying to setup a temporary ad-hoc wireless connection between my
firewall (CentOS5) and my laptop. (F9, NM disabled)
The wireless connection will sit on the red side of the firewall (and
will be disabled most of the
On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 09:44 -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
On Jul 26, 2008, Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.cmake.org/HTML/index.html
That one should suffice.
Nope. It offers the features, and even in a desirable fashion, but it
doesn't preclude anyone from
but if a bank employee is involved in the taking of funds, then there is
somewhat of a trail. if the employee where to change the root dns servers,
there would be some trail of this with the service that the bank uses for
this setup.. this would be pretty easy to resolve, and the customer would
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 18:30 +, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan at gmail.com writes:
Well, naturally it's up to me, but I was hoping for some insight into
the relationship between the various repos. I started using kde-redhat a
few weeks back in order to get a preview
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 13:55 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Well, naturally it's up to me, but I was hoping for some insight into
the relationship between the various repos.
kde-redhat is a personal repo of mine. essentially the rawhide of kde,
where I sometimes
Alexandre Oliva wrote:
Err... I don't know how you got this idea that GNU was
supposed to be just a kernel. GNU is an entire operating system, that
Linux developers happened to borrow to complete theirs, because
all they had was a kernel.
This part can be argued. If there was no
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 22:33 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 21:20 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
A kde-4.1-rc2 update is queued for release to fedora 9's updates-testing
repository. It is meant for testing the upcoming KDE 4.1 release and to
filter last-minute
On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 19:08 +1000, Andy Eager wrote:
OK, for anyone interested (and as a way of documenting the problem), I
finally got to the bottom of this issue.
It has absolutely nothing to do with users, groups, cups authentication,
Firefox or much else discussed in this thread!!
I
On Jul 26, 2008, Les [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
why would they have bothered with rewriting a much smaller piece of
it?
If it is really free, why does this last paragraph belong in your
argument?
The argument about why it is correct to say that what some people
mistake for Linux is actually
On Saturday 26 July 2008 16:50:46 Craig White wrote:
problem...
# yum --enablerepo=updates-testing install kdesdk kdebase kdepimlibs sip
qscintilla qgtkstyle kdeedu kdebindings soprano kdeplasma-addons
kdegames kdeaccessibility compiz kdenetwork kdegraphics kdeadmin
kdebase-runtime
why would they have bothered with rewriting a much
smaller piece of
it?
If it is really free, why does this last paragraph
belong in your
argument?
The argument about why it is correct to say that what some
people
mistake for Linux is actually the GNU operating system? I
don't
On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 17:21 +0100, José Matos wrote:
On Saturday 26 July 2008 16:50:46 Craig White wrote:
problem...
# yum --enablerepo=updates-testing install kdesdk kdebase kdepimlibs sip
qscintilla qgtkstyle kdeedu kdebindings soprano kdeplasma-addons
kdegames kdeaccessibility
Alexandre Oliva wrote:
it has always been immoral to demand that others give up their rights.
Taking away legitimate rights, yes, that would be immoral.
Taking away any right is immoral.
Like, let's say, taking away one's right to own slaves?
Red Herring! 'I' don't/can't take away
Craig White wrote:
Thanks...apparently there is some clean up still required on kdebindings
and kdegraphics but that does allow it to get installed except,
developers should note the following on kdegraphics...
Transaction Check Error:
file
Rex Dieter wrote:
Craig White wrote:
Thanks...apparently there is some clean up still required on kdebindings...
I'll have to double-check the qscintilla/kdebindings thing.
confirmed. we'll sort that out.
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Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
You aren't paranoid enough. What if the spoofer is also a system
administrator at the bank with access to a copy of the real certificate
that he installs on the machine he's tricked your dns into reaching -
with the expected name that you'll still see.
Then the
Les Mikesell wrote:
Alexandre Oliva wrote:
Please stop spreading misinformation.
That's funny - remember this post is in response to my exact quote of
the license section 2b. Do you really consider what the license
actually say as misinformation?
The terms of the license aren't
Alexandre Oliva wrote:
Your wording is too ambiguous and you associate unusual politics with
some of those words so I have no idea what you intend.
Tell me which words, and I'll point out they're present in the GPL as
well, and you don't seem to have any trouble (mis)interpreting it.
Yes,
Gordon Messmer wrote:
Please stop spreading misinformation.
That's funny - remember this post is in response to my exact quote of
the license section 2b. Do you really consider what the license
actually say as misinformation?
The terms of the license aren't misinformation; your
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 06:23:10AM +0100, Colin Paul Adams wrote:
I want to connect an AMD64 machine (currently running 32-bit Fedora
Core 6, although I might upgrade to Fedora 9 64-bit or 32-bit) to a
wireless LAN. Can I just buy any cheap wireless LAN card, or are there
gotchas to be aware
Hi List,
i have following problem. If I open properties of a Sorthcut on my
Desktop and click on Launcher, the window closes after 2 sec without
an error.
I tried it with an fresh/default desktop, but is the same problem.
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Please stop spreading misinformation.
That's funny - remember this post is in
response to my exact quote of
the license section 2b. Do you really consider
what the license
actually say as misinformation?
The terms of the license aren't misinformation;
your uninformed
Les Mikesell wrote:
Yes, but controlling 'who does what' only works as long as the selected
person does what you expect. Are you following the case of the San
Francisco network admin that refused to give the password to anyone
else? This may not even be malicious (he may just think everyone
Antonio Olivares wrote:
If you want an analogy: BSD is like the girl who sleeps with everybody. She gets a lot of
sex and is invited to every party, but nobody respects her. GPL is like the girl who is
selective about her partners. She doesn't have quite as much fun and has
earned herself a
Hi,
My laptop running F9 doesn't boot properly anymore. After starting the
VolumeGroup, it starts giving:
ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0
ata1.00: BMDMA stat 0x25
ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
ata1.00: error: { UNC }
ata1.00: cmd c8/00:2c:61:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/e0
Gordon Messmer wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
The context is that it is a part of what you must agree to do if you
want to do anything with _every_ GPL-encumbered work that copyright
law alone would not permit.
That statement is a little ambiguous. The GPL does not have any power
which
Hello,
I am wondering if there is laptop tracking software included with Fedora. I am
currently using Fedora 8. If there is no such thing in the distro, what would
anyone recommend for a third-party F/OSS software?
What I meant is a software that can track the laptop whereabouts, which would
I have also found a page in which it clearly explains
some problems with
the GPL
quote from
http://www.topology.org/linux/gpl.html
An analogy for the GPL would be the farmer who
receives the gift of a GPL
cow from a neighbour. The cow is completely free, but
all of the milk from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello,
I am wondering if there is laptop tracking software included with Fedora. I am
currently using Fedora 8. If there is no such thing in the distro, what would
anyone recommend for a third-party F/OSS software?
What I meant is a software that can track the
2008/7/11 Rick Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Mark Haney wrote:
Glen Grantham wrote:
My system is an AMD 64 Athlon X2 4600+ on a
GIGABYTE S-Series GA-MA74GM-S2H motherboard
with a 320GB EIDE WD Caviar SE 7200RPM Hard Drive
64 bit Fedora Linux Identity Kit
ERROR List from upgrade after
There is nothing to interpret. If you don't
like what
the license
actually says, why do you keep defending it?
He might defend the good parts of the license :)
I preferred not to respond to Les because he insists on
putting words in
my mouth. In fact, I do like what the GPL
Antonio Olivares wrote:
I respect your stance on the license issue. In fact I would agree
that most of the parts are good. Many projects use the license which
shows that it is not totally bad. There are however certain
restrictions and gotchas. For instance in the Open Source
Definitions
We should keep this site focussed on the technical areas; not on a political
point. This site should drop any statements in reference to why is fedora not
free!. I will soon drop out of this site if the site administrator doesn't
control this site. lets end this scarp and more on to
Around 11:01pm on Saturday, July 26, 2008 (UK time), [EMAIL PROTECTED] scrawled:
We should keep this site focussed on the technical areas; not on a
political point. This site should drop any statements in reference to
why is fedora not free!. I will soon drop out of this site if the
site
Antonio Olivares wrote:
If the information cannot be moved, how come the wireless drivers
built with BSD license in OpenBSD by Theo de Raadt were moved to GPL
license.
Theo didn't write the drivers. Reyk Floeter and Sam Leffler did.
The drivers weren't moved to the GPL, either. There was
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:15:34 +0200
Huub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
My laptop running F9 doesn't boot properly anymore. After starting the
VolumeGroup, it starts giving:
ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0
ata1.00: BMDMA stat 0x25
ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
On Saturday 26 July 2008 01:26, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
On Jul 24, 2008, Marko Vojinovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Persons A and B are running a marathon on the Olympic games.
You're quite creative at presenting analogies that sound convincing to
support a point you're trying to make, and that
:-) I'll try to be just a little bit shorter. Though I may not succeed. ;-)
On Friday 25 July 2008 20:18, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
On Jul 24, 2008, Marko Vojinovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the kernel does the essential work (actually, it communicates
further to the hardware that does the
On Friday 25 July 2008 22:07, John Cornelius wrote:
I fail to see the value of this line of discussion in this forum even
though the points are provocative to say the least.
[snip]
Note that my opening thought was that I fail to see the _value_ of this
discussion in this forum not that there
On Friday 25 July 2008 07:56, Gordon Messmer wrote:
I think that some knowledge of history would probably change your
perspective, and is certainly relevant to the conversation.
Probably, but it seems that the argument I am trying to communicate is based
on discussing the *purpose* of Linux
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 16:39:53 -0400,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I am wondering if there is laptop tracking software included with Fedora. I
am
currently using Fedora 8. If there is no such thing in the distro, what would
anyone recommend for a third-party F/OSS software?
What
Hi all,
Okay, I know this is a long shot, but I might as well ask and see if
there is anything else to try. I recently lost some pictures because
when importing into F-Spot, I accidentally selected not to copy the
pictures to the hard drive. Now the F-Spot database references the
files on the
Les Mikesell wrote:
Gordon Messmer wrote:
That statement is a little ambiguous. The GPL does not have any power
which copyright law does not grant. Specifically, it can not change
the terms of work licensed under any terms other than its own and it
can not force you to accept any other or
Gordon Messmer wrote:
The GPL doesn't change terms on anything else and I've never implied
that it can or does.
You have repeatedly insisted exactly that.
I've stated that is the practical effect, but the license can only
control your actions, not anyone else's terms. You are only given
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I am wondering if there is laptop tracking software included with Fedora. I am
currently using Fedora 8. If there is no such thing in the distro, what would
anyone recommend for a third-party F/OSS software?
What I meant is a software that can track the laptop
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 17:36:43 -0500,
Jonathan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any ideas?
Take a look at the ext3grep project. LVM shouldn't be a barrier in this
case since you can access the ext3 file system device.
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Verily I say unto thee, that Bob Marcan spake thusly:
(Original subject: clamav 0.93 on Fedora 8)
Will this ever happen ?
For some reason the Fedora 8 packages for ClamAV are lagging behind F9,
so I've provided updates for the following
Just curious if anyone has yet stumbled across the solution
to this bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451562
I want to be able to influence the X server startup options,
and they seem to be totally hard coded in fedora 9 gdm.
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On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 01:32:58PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
Björn Persson wrote:
If you are really paranoid (or about to do large transactions on what
you hope is your banking site), you could do a 'whois' lookup for the
target domain to find their own name servers and send a query directly
On Jul 26, 2008, Marko Vojinovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The bootloader, although completely crucial, is a fairly simple
piece of code (compared to the kernel or any other serious part of
the system).
Like Linux is a fairly simple piece of code, compared with GNU.
(no offence to the grub
On Jul 25, 2008, John Cornelius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I fail to see the value of this line of discussion in this forum
I can't think of a better place for discussions on whether it is
reasonable for Fedora to be introduced, at its web front page, as a
Linux-based, rather than as
On Jul 26, 2008, Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What does that have to do with freedom?
They have a right to call it what they want.
Nobody is taking, or even trying to take, that right away, even when
it's not morally correct for them to abuse it right to mislead and
fool the
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Alexandre Oliva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't think of a better place for discussions on whether it is
reasonable for Fedora to be introduced, at its web front page, as a
Linux-based, rather than as GNU+Linux-based or GNU-based.
Fedora, Ubuntu, and other
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Bruno Wolff III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 17:36:43 -0500,
Jonathan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any ideas?
Take a look at the ext3grep project. LVM shouldn't be a barrier in this
case since you can access the ext3 file system
Oh, goodie Another thread to filter...
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Mitch == Nifty Fedora Mitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mitch On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 06:23:10AM +0100, Colin Paul Adams wrote:
I want to connect an AMD64 machine (currently running 32-bit Fedora
Core 6, although I might upgrade to Fedora 9 64-bit or 32-bit)
to a wireless LAN.
What does that have to do with freedom?
They have a right to call it what they want.
Nobody is taking, or even trying to take, that right away,
even when
it's not morally correct for them to abuse it right to
mislead and
fool the recipients of the collection of software they
package,
First of, here is the smolt profile for the machine:
http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_4e28d6bb-5fee-4152-a260-f08ff80399e5
Check the link there on the Atheros card for info on what I have done
with it so far.
The gist of the matter is that as is if the notebook lid is closed
(goes to
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Douglas McClendon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If that doesn't help or answer you question, try to add more detail to
your question.
Douglas -
Thanks for the reply.
I use the live usb tools to create my live USB stick with a 2047 MB
overlay. I boot from it and let
Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote:
There has been a heated discussion over several threads in
www.fedoraforum.org about how disconnected some users feel from the
development team, as well as a general lack of direction in Fedora's
leadership. The latest of these discussions started about an article
On 2008-07-27 04:17:29 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I have already discussed this issue in the private staff forum and a few
of the administrators are now showing up in #fedora-devel IRC channel to
help bridge this gap.
Thanks for that! It's been great talking to some of them on IRC. I
think
Rahul Sundaram escribió:
Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote:
There has been a heated discussion over several threads in
www.fedoraforum.org about how disconnected some users feel from the
development team, as well as a general lack of direction in
Fedora's leadership. The latest of these discussions
Hi All -
I come bearing a request from the NA Ambassadors Meeting. I have gone
through the existing presentations and they are either outdated or
target the wrong presenter level that we are looking for. Essentially
we are looking for stuff that we can hand a new
contributor/ambassador, walk them
Sorry, it was a local problem.
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