Re: [Echo] Addressing ticket #25 with revamped keyboard + shortcut variant

2008-10-18 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 20:59 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Did for preferences-desktop-keyboard-shortcut. The side and top faces are too dark -- outline not visible. I'd made the keys look more computer keyboard like, but these are probably fine as well, if you make the lighting corrections

Re: The third draft for F10 Solar CD/DVD sleeves

2008-10-18 Thread Paolo Leoni
I've only a little propose: it can be useful writing on the rear of the sleeves some Fedora mains features, like version of kernel and Xorg. -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org GPG fingerprint: DAD1 6419 D42B 0B1C D9E1 A9CB 4587 4812 17F7 F764

Re: Echo Icon Theme in F10?

2008-10-18 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Here's some of that feedback. There are other screenshots at the bottom of the page I wanted to do the full critique on, but after spending some hours doing the critique that is complete there, I felt that what is there sufficiently and objectively

Re: Echo Icon Theme in F10?

2008-10-18 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Regarding icons using different perspective, it is much worse for any theme especially when new applications do not have icons that follow either guideline (Blender, KOffice, xsane, about-me, gFTP, etc.) . The Blender icon in the package from blender.org is tango

[Bug 464470] New Indic fonts (nonlatin.conf) preferences

2008-10-18 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464470 Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 464470] New Indic fonts (nonlatin.conf) preferences

2008-10-18 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464470 --- Comment #5 from Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-10-18 17:08:27 EDT --- I don't see how conf.avail should block

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Re: How to talk ethernet to windows

2008-10-18 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Kevin == Kevin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin Colin Paul Adams wrote: I have a fedora 9 box which is connected to my wireless network (via network manager). It also has an ethernet port, and there is a windows xp professional box in the same room with an

Re: certification of signatures

2008-10-18 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 18:29 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: The only way for the key to be treated as valid (which makes the warning go away) is for a trusted key (or keys) to sign it. This means you could sign the key yourself (preferably with a local signature rather than an exportable

Re: How to install Fedora 9 without DVD drive (but I have usb)

2008-10-18 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 13:06 +0100, Vijay Gill wrote: I have been trying to find a way to install fedora 9 without a DVD drive but all of the existing solutions seem to be for upto Fedora 8 only. I am running my server on FC6 and would like to upgrade to Fedora 9 which must be pretty stable by

Re: fdisk and labels

2008-10-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:01:30 -0700, gary artim wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Trapper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somewhere along the line I saw a small script that provides a display of label information as a part of fdisk -l results. My searches have proved fruitless. Anyone

How to install Fedora 9 without DVD drive (but I have usb)

2008-10-18 Thread Vijay Gill
Hi, I have been trying to find a way to install fedora 9 without a DVD drive but all of the existing solutions seem to be for upto Fedora 8 only. I am running my server on FC6 and would like to upgrade to Fedora 9 which must be pretty stable by now. I have usb ports available that machine and it

Re: Why does it take so long for new (gimp, kernels, openoffice) packages to reach the stable repo ?

2008-10-18 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 17:15 -0500, Marc Schwartz wrote: The problem typically is that you get a variety of upgrade related dependencies (eg. gtk) that can get too complicated to handle within a Fedora release, while those same dependencies are satisfied in the next release. Surely, if Fedora

Re: certification of signatures

2008-10-18 Thread Todd Zullinger
Tim wrote: I'm curious about why you'd need to do it with a local key. Not a local key, a local, non-exportable signature, as opposed to an exportable signature, which is what gpg creates by default. You don't need to use local signature, but I feel it is preferable (especially when giving

Re: Why does it take so long for new (gimp, kernels, openoffice) packages to reach the stable repo ?

2008-10-18 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rick Stevens ricks at nerd.com writes: I'm aware of that, but the people who do the penetration testing squawk anything that's less than 0.9.8h. Technically it's a false positive, but it is still in the reports and we have to prove that it's a false positive each time. I know what the

Re: certification of signatures

2008-10-18 Thread Tim
Tim: I'm curious about why you'd need to do it with a local key. Todd Zullinger: I consider it preferable is that it prevents new users from signing the fedora key with a typical, exportable signature which they can easily leak to a keyserver¹ and cost themselves some credibility as a key

Re: How to talk ethernet to windows

2008-10-18 Thread Kevin Martin
Colin Paul Adams wrote: Kevin == Kevin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin Colin Paul Adams wrote: I have a fedora 9 box which is connected to my wireless network (via network manager). It also has an ethernet port, and there is a windows xp

Re: How to install Fedora 9 without DVD drive (but I have usb)

2008-10-18 Thread Mike
Tim ignored_mailbox at yahoo.com.au writes: Do you have space on a drive to hold the install DVD ISO? You can add an entry to grub to start loading the boot.iso, and start the installation off the hard drive. I have been doing exactly that for at least 4 years - it has never failed me.

Re: Why does it take so long for new (gimp, kernels, openoffice) packages to reach the stable repo ?

2008-10-18 Thread Marc Schwartz
Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 17:15 -0500, Marc Schwartz wrote: The problem typically is that you get a variety of upgrade related dependencies (eg. gtk) that can get too complicated to handle within a Fedora release, while those same dependencies are satisfied in the

Libraries disappearing from compat-libstdc++-296

2008-10-18 Thread William M. Quarles
Hey all, I'm using Fedora 8 on my laptop. The library known as libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 isn't there, which I need to run Maple 7 on my computer. This should be a part of the compat-libstdc++-296 RPM, as this library was originally a part of RHL 7.3 and 8.0 in libstdc++, and available in the

Re: fdisk and labels

2008-10-18 Thread Trapper
Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:01:30 -0700, gary artim wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Trapper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somewhere along the line I saw a small script that provides a display of label information as a part of fdisk -l results. My searches have proved

Re: How to install Fedora 9 without DVD drive (but I have usb)

2008-10-18 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 14:54:09 +, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In addition it should be pointed out that the DVD iso file needs to be placed on a partition that is not going to be overwritten during the install - eg in the /opt partition separately from / If space is at a premium

Re: How to install Fedora 9 without DVD drive (but I have usb)

2008-10-18 Thread M A Young
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008, Vijay Gill wrote: I have been trying to find a way to install fedora 9 without a DVD drive but all of the existing solutions seem to be for upto Fedora 8 only. I am running my server on FC6 and would like to upgrade to Fedora 9 which must be pretty stable by now. You can

Bluetooth GPS Fedora howto

2008-10-18 Thread Valent Turkovic
Hi I posted a new howto on my blog. Bluetooth GPS Fedora howto: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/index.php/archives/bluetooth-gps-fedora-howto/ I will copy/paste it here but please go to my blog for an always up to date version. Bluetooth GPS Fedora howto If you have bluetooth GPS dongle

Re: Kate's terminal emulator freezes up

2008-10-18 Thread Aldo Foot
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 7:27 PM, g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 as parting thoughts, go thru 'configure kate' to see just what is set. I'm not in front of my F8 system now, but I'm looking at a CentOS.52 build at this moment. Well, when you

Re: fdisk and labels

2008-10-18 Thread Aldo Foot
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Trapper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:01:30 -0700, gary artim wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Trapper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somewhere along the line I saw a small script that provides a display of

How to uninstall fedora on dual boot system

2008-10-18 Thread john
Hello everybody, My problem must be deadly simple for most people but for me it leaves me shivering. I have now two computors and I want to reinstall fedora on the second which is so muxh better than the first. On the latter I would like to get rid of fedora and leave

Re: How to uninstall fedora on dual boot system

2008-10-18 Thread Nicolae Ghimbovschi
Hello, You can use the windows install CD to restore MBR (using the recovery console). Or to get a MBR copy and to write it with the dd command. And then to boot in windows and to format Fedora partitions using Disk Manager. 1) Restore MBR (from Fedora or Windows install CD) 2) Erase the Fedora

Re: How to uninstall fedora on dual boot system

2008-10-18 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
john wrote: Hello everybody, My problem must be deadly simple for most people but for me it leaves me shivering. I have now two computors and I want to reinstall fedora on the second which is so muxh better than the first. On the latter I would like to get rid of

F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Dan Thurman
I visited a java-based website and wondering why this site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order to use it? I checked FF preferences and Java is enabled so that is not the problem. Firefox works fine on a windows platform so perhaps I actually do not have Java installed on F9? If

Re: How to uninstall fedora on dual boot system

2008-10-18 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 john wrote: On the latter I would like to get rid of fedora and leave windows under msbsos at 'command', enter 'mbr \restore' or 'fixmbr', depending on version. - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. learn linux:

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 11:14 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: I visited a java-based website and wondering why this site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order to use it? I checked FF preferences and Java is enabled so that is not the problem. Firefox works fine on a windows platform

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Craig White wrote: snip before you ask the list? or enter 'about:plugins' in 'navigation toolbar' - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition'

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 11:14 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: I visited a java-based website and wondering why this site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order to use it? I checked FF preferences and Java is enabled so that is not the problem. Firefox works fine on a

RE: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread bruce
and maybe he did search.. but still couldn't resolve his issue.. but i guess you felt/feel the need to belittle... and you still didn't provide him with any additional help. but i guess your day is a little better. as far as the java issue goes, i believe you can have java enabled on firefox,

Re: Kate's terminal emulator freezes up

2008-10-18 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aldo Foot wrote: Well, when you right-click on the terminal you can adjust the look-and-feel settings. i was referring to 'settings configure kate', which is different. Kate is a part of the K Desktop Environment core files (kdebase.i386). i

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Flaschen wrote: snip Did it ever occur to you to answer the question or keep your mouth shut? ticky tacky - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition'

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 18 October 2008 20:14, Dan Thurman wrote: I visited a java-based website and wondering why this site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order to use it? I checked FF preferences and Java is enabled so that is not the problem. Firefox works fine on a windows platform so

installation build and test process question - warning, it is dumb.

2008-10-18 Thread bob smith
You guys have offered some great advice, so I am going to ask a dumb sort of question. I have a machine with all the peripherals - CD, DVD, Frewire, SATA, EIDE, SCSI, USB ports, and multiple ethers. I use this as a build and test machine - configuring a drive to be installed in another box.

Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-18 Thread Bill Davidsen
Alessandro Boggiano wrote: Antonio M ha scritto: 2008/10/17 Arch Willingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]: DVD are not going to be seen any more??? Bill, still there Ciao Antonio, a simply fast search on google is pointing me to: http://rpmforge.net/user/packages/libdvdcss/ Please, don't forget

Re: How to install Fedora 9 without DVD drive (but I have usb)

2008-10-18 Thread Aldo Foot
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 5:06 AM, Vijay Gill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have been trying to find a way to install fedora 9 without a DVD drive but all of the existing solutions seem to be for upto Fedora 8 only. I am running my server on FC6 and would like to upgrade to Fedora 9 which

RE: installation build and test process question - warning, it is dumb.

2008-10-18 Thread bruce
some would say to use a dhcp configuration/approach, which would reduce your need to go in and clean up the ethX types of issues. if you really need to have manual/distinct names/ip addresses that you;re assigning, you're going to have to do some manual work. you could create a great deal of

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Dan Thurman
Dan Thurman wrote: I visited a java-based website and wondering why this site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order to use it? I checked FF preferences and Java is enabled so that is not the problem. Firefox works fine on a windows platform so perhaps I actually do not have Java

Re: gnome panel icons rearranging themselfes with compiz

2008-10-18 Thread tomlald
Hey there, wondering if you ever got an answer to this and if yes, what it was. I am having the same problem and have wasted hours on it and it's driving me nuts! Thanks. -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org

gnome panel icons rearranging themselves on reboot

2008-10-18 Thread tomlald
Hello, sulfur gnome 2.22.3 Every time I shutdown or reboot, the icons on the gnome desktop panel are all shuffled around. See attached screenshots. This in spite of them all being locked. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this problem and have a suggested fix? Thanks.

Re: gnome panel icons rearranging themselves on reboot

2008-10-18 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 23:04 +0200, tomlald wrote: Hello, sulfur gnome 2.22.3 Every time I shutdown or reboot, the icons on the gnome desktop panel are all shuffled around. See attached screenshots. This in spite of them all being locked. Wondering if anyone else has experienced this

Re: Why does it take so long for new (gimp, kernels, openoffice) packages to reach the stable repo ?

2008-10-18 Thread Bill Davidsen
Kevin Kofler wrote: Andras Simon szajmi at gmail.com writes: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_Review_Process https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ReviewGuidelines That's the process for new packages, not for updates to existing ones. Updates don't have to get reviewed, but they

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Thurman wrote: I visited a java-based website and wondering why this site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order to use it? Yeah, encouraging words from c but I can handle it! (shaking off the dust) ;) he is just having another

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Dan Thurman
g wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Thurman wrote: I visited a java-based website and wondering why this site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order to use it? Yeah, encouraging words from c but I can handle it! (shaking off the dust) ;)

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Dan Thurman
Dan Thurman wrote: g wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Thurman wrote: I visited a java-based website and wondering why this site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order to use it? Yeah, encouraging words from c but I can handle it! (shaking

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 15:19 -0400, Matthew Flaschen wrote: Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 11:14 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: I visited a java-based website and wondering why this site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order to use it? I checked FF preferences and Java

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 18 October 2008 22:38, Dan Thurman wrote: Dan Thurman wrote: I visited a java-based website and wondering why this site seems to say that I need to enable Java in order to use it? I checked FF preferences and Java is enabled so that is not the problem. Firefox works

Re: fdisk and labels

2008-10-18 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
To label a partition use e2label /dev/sdaX myLabel. And just for completeness, usb thumbdrives can be labeled with mtools' mlabel command. Doing so has the nice property of giving a meaningful name to the mount point when the thumbdrive is plugged into f9 and perhaps earlier. Ditto for CD's

RE: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread bruce
craig... the issue that he seems to be dealing with seems to be a function of the SUN jre required in order to run the app on the client site. i'm not sure that anything that you've pointed to relates to this specific issue. so, there again.. if you don't want to help, you can simply delete the

Re: Why does it take so long for new (gimp, kernels, openoffice) packages to reach the stable repo ?

2008-10-18 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bill Davidsen davidsen at tmr.com writes: 2.6.27 is such a huge leap for many people that getting it out really should be treated as a bug fix, many missing or broken drivers added (some were retrofitted to 2.6.26 for Fedora users), and mtrr handling was vastly improved, giving many people a

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 15:24 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: One more thing and I cannot seem to figure what this message in yellow and at the bottom of the page means: Scripts Partially Allowed 1/2 (relaycall.com) | SCRIPT : 2 | OBJECT : 0 It means NoScript is blocking something on the page.

RE: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 16:12 -0700, bruce wrote: craig... the issue that he seems to be dealing with seems to be a function of the SUN jre required in order to run the app on the client site. i'm not sure that anything that you've pointed to relates to this specific issue. so, there

Re: How do you get a service to start after a reboot automatically...

2008-10-18 Thread David Timms
Gilbert Sebenste wrote: Without the benefit of using system-config-services? I'm trying to get Postfix to start after each reboot, and it won't go. This is under Fedora 9. I used to be able to do this by typing system postfix start and tha would do it. I can't get to the console for a few

Re: Wireless, Broadcom

2008-10-18 Thread Rick Bilonick
On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 14:52 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: Jeroen de Haas wrote: There is a tutorial on setting up ndiswrapper on Fedora: http://fedoramobile.org/fc-wireless/ndis-yum-livna . This text assumes you have configured yum to use the livna repository (which does contain the

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Thurman wrote: snip Anything I can try or report? i looked back thru your list of java. applying 'swag', i tend to believe that it has to do with flavor of you java. i am not sure where i got java that i have loaded, it may have come from

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Craig White wrote: for the record, the list before he makes any attempt to find the answer himself. also for the record, there is also a suggestion that *plain text* be used. yet there are those [no names mentioned] who continue to reply to

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: snip It means NoScript is blocking something on the page. This may be why Java isn't working. Click on the NoScript button (bottom right) to see what it's blocking and decide if you want to enable it. there are a couple

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Craig White wrote: snip no Bruce...if you look at the complete list of plugins that he dumped on the list, nowhere was the sun version indicated, only gcj, which as we i do believe you are correct about gcj. i do not know what flavor java i have,

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Craig White wrote: also for the record (and I am not the biggest fan of this), the 'Mailing List Guidelines' linked to at the bottom of each and every e-mail...the very first paragraph... You're free to ignore the OP if it's clear (as it was in this case) that this is the first place he's

[OT] msbsos password recovery

2008-10-18 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 greets, i would like to help a colleague crack a password used on a win 2000 pro system and have pulled from; http://www.openwall.com/john/ http://www.loginrecovery.com/ http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/ any suggestions for something that

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Dan Thurman wrote: plus, once you have it installed, you can make 'relaycall.com' perminate to load every time. I installed noscript, then allowed 'relaycall.com' and IP address: '12.x.x.x' NoScript is not going to help you get Java working. g should have been more clear about that. I

Re: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 23:59 -0400, Matthew Flaschen wrote: Craig White wrote: also for the record (and I am not the biggest fan of this), the 'Mailing List Guidelines' linked to at the bottom of each and every e-mail...the very first paragraph... You're free to ignore the OP if it's

RE: F9: Firefox: Java based site fails to work.

2008-10-18 Thread bruce
and if someone doesn't know to use google for the site for fedoraproject, or redhat.com. ie, if they have different terms.. the guy (OP) said he did look/search the net before posting... but as i said.. you wanted to feel like a superior species... which is your right i guess.. i've just found

Re: wikipedia goodbye redhat and fedora

2008-10-18 Thread Rex Dieter
Frank Murphy wrote: On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 17:25 +0530, Arnav Kalra wrote: why don't we have a long release (even no.) released every year which has support for 2 more long releases. scrap odd no. releases for fortnightly test releases like opensolaris. Basically there's no interest in it.