Announcing Fedora Sugar Spin!

2008-10-30 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Hi everybody, I'm proud to be announce the availability of our Fedora Sugar Spin, which incorporates the Sugar Desktop Environment on a Fedora Live CD. So, what is this in specific? With this spin, you'll be able to run Sugar, which is developed by Sugarlabs and the desktop environment used

Re: Fedora 10 Countdown

2008-10-30 Thread Nicu Buculei
Paolo Leoni wrote: I thought we were going to adapt the beta release banner's text and leave the rest the same -- not that this artwork isn't OK, it's just fine (might need to be adapted a little bit, change the strings, whatever)... someone more important than me needs to make that decision, I

Re: F10 on OLPC XO illustration request

2008-10-30 Thread Nicu Buculei
Michael Langlie wrote: I drew a 6-step process for opening and positioning an XO laptop for SD card insertion. Let me know if anything seems to need revising or clarification. I tried to keep it simple and readable with or without additional text explanation. (Big thanks to professional hand

Re: Artwork Quality (was Re: Sound themes)

2008-10-30 Thread Nicu Buculei
Matthias Clasen wrote: Jon invested a significant amount of work in a comparison of OS background images, and sent the document to this list. Is that participating in the process ? I guess not. But it was an attempt to influence the outcome of the process for the better. Sorry, but *not*.

Re: Updated Solar Backgrounds Package

2008-10-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler at chello.at writes: of the normalish.dual images (or, equivalently, copying (1280,0) to (2559,9) (the 1280x10 pixel rectangle at the top right) from the normalish.dual images and adding that on top of the 1280x1024 images). That's what I did (can't be too careful -

Re: Artwork Quality (was Re: Sound themes)

2008-10-30 Thread Nicu Buculei
Bill Nottingham wrote: They almost certainly are. The audience for Fedora Electronics Lab wouldn't be the same audience as for Fedora Desktop, which isn't (necessarily) the same audience as Fedora KDE, which isn't the same audience as 'the Fedora spin'. I'm pretty sure the audience for the

Re: Artwork Quality (was Re: Sound themes)

2008-10-30 Thread Nicu Buculei
Max Spevack wrote: (3) How appropriate is it characterize opinions as belonging to the Desktop Team versus individuals within that team? Far better for the Art Team to have one set of positions and the Desktop Team to have another set of positions, but to know that the collective members of

Re: Updated Solar Backgrounds Package

2008-10-30 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 22:47 -0400, Mairin Duffy wrote: Hi Martin, Hi Máirín, Martin Sourada wrote: If no serious problems/regressions are reported, I'll request a freeze break at Friday. Jesse said he really needs this ASAP, so I think we should get it to him tomorrow morning. He's

Re: Artwork Quality (was Re: Sound themes)

2008-10-30 Thread Max Spevack
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Matthias Clasen wrote: (3) How appropriate is it characterize opinions as belonging to the Desktop Team versus individuals within that team? Far better for the Art Team to have one set of positions and the Desktop Team to have another set of positions, but to know that

Re: Artwork Quality (was Re: Sound themes)

2008-10-30 Thread Máirín Duffy
Matthias Clasen wrote: Jon invested a significant amount of work in a comparison of OS background images, and sent the document to this list. Is that participating in the process ? I guess not. But it was an attempt to influence the outcome of the process for the better. Actually, I would

Re: Updated Solar Backgrounds Package

2008-10-30 Thread Máirín Duffy
Hi Kevin, Martin Sourada wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 22:47 -0400, Mairin Duffy wrote: Hi Martin, Hi Máirín, Martin Sourada wrote: If no serious problems/regressions are reported, I'll request a freeze break at Friday. Jesse said he really needs this ASAP, so I think we should get it to

Re: F10 on OLPC XO illustration request

2008-10-30 Thread Michael Langlie
Hi Nicu, The files are still there. My site host is having domain problems. I think the URLs posted seem to be up and down depending on which server they are using at any moment. Here are more direct URLs. http://yipyop.tripod.com/blog/XO/XO_SD_card.zip

Re: Artwork Quality (was Re: Sound themes)

2008-10-30 Thread Bill Nottingham
Nicu Buculei ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: They almost certainly are. The audience for Fedora Electronics Lab wouldn't be the same audience as for Fedora Desktop, which isn't (necessarily) the same audience as Fedora KDE, which isn't the same audience as 'the Fedora spin'. I'm pretty sure the

Re: Artwork Quality (was Re: Sound themes)

2008-10-30 Thread Bill Nottingham
Paul W. Frields ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: User Experience. Fedora offers a user experience unsurpassed by other fully free software distributions. Which means what exactly? 'Unsurpassed' implies a great quantity or level of something, and I'm not sure 'user experience' is quantified in

Re: F10 on OLPC XO illustration request

2008-10-30 Thread Nicu Buculei
Michael Langlie wrote: Hi Nicu, The files are still there. My site host is having domain problems. I think the URLs posted seem to be up and down depending on which server they are using at any moment. Here are more direct URLs. http://yipyop.tripod.com/blog/XO/XO_SD_card.zip

Re: F10 on OLPC XO illustration request - Closed

2008-10-30 Thread Michael Langlie
I closed the diagram request from Karlie Robinson on this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DocIllustrationService The zipped files (SVG, AI, EPS, PNG) are found on this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:XO_SD_card.zip A PNG preview is here:

Re: Artwork Quality (was Re: Sound themes)

2008-10-30 Thread Nicu Buculei
Bill Nottingham wrote: Nicu Buculei said: We get from time to time requests for such customized artwork, he most recent which come to my mind is the Security spin. Sometime the requests are meet with resistance by people like me who does not understand the need of a Fedora spin with a

Re: Artwork Quality (was Re: Sound themes)

2008-10-30 Thread William Jon McCann
Hey, On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:03 AM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthias Clasen wrote: Jon invested a significant amount of work in a comparison of OS background images, and sent the document to this list. Is that participating in the process ? I guess not. But it was an attempt

Re: Artwork Quality (was Re: Sound themes)

2008-10-30 Thread Bill Nottingham
Nicu Buculei ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: We get from time to time requests for such customized artwork, he most recent which come to my mind is the Security spin. Sometime the requests are meet with resistance by people like me who does not understand the need of a Fedora spin with a

Re: Artwork Quality (was Re: Sound themes)

2008-10-30 Thread Nicu Buculei
William Jon McCann wrote: Just for the record, you are being disingenuous. Matthias mentioned it on this list before I could: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-May/msg00200.html It was even mentioned in the Fedora Weekly News: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue129 (and

Re: Artwork Quality (was Re: Sound themes)

2008-10-30 Thread Máirín Duffy
William Jon McCann wrote: Hey, On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:03 AM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthias Clasen wrote: Jon invested a significant amount of work in a comparison of OS background images, and sent the document to this list. Is that participating in the process ? I guess

Re: Artwork Quality (was Re: Sound themes)

2008-10-30 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 09:45 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Paul W. Frields ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: User Experience. Fedora offers a user experience unsurpassed by other fully free software distributions. Which means what exactly? 'Unsurpassed' implies a great quantity or level of

Re: Announcing Fedora Sugar Spin!

2008-10-30 Thread Jeremy Katz
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 18:31 -0400, Chris Ball wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 17:53 -0400, Chris Ball wrote: A minor complaint: Sugar came up in 800x600, which doesn't look very good. I wonder if we can try for 1280x1024 by default instead. (It might just be the graphics card

[Bug 468193] Chinese fonts have changed file name

2008-10-30 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 462531] text of highlighted button in dialog goes black

2008-10-30 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 461039] liberation-fonts =1.04.2 have problems with some websites and gecko-1.8*

2008-10-30 Thread bugzilla
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Meeting Log - 2008-10-30

2008-10-30 Thread Ricky Zhou
19:59 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Role Call. Who's here? 19:59 * ricky 20:00 themayor nope were good 20:00 themayor thanks guys 20:00 * SmootherFrOgZ here 20:00 * wcattey makes his way to the exit as the meeting changes. 20:01 smooge here 20:01

Away next week

2008-10-30 Thread Mike McGrath
I forgot to mention during the meeting that i'll be gone starting Thursday and ending on Sunday. I'll also be only partially available on Wed. -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com

Introduction

2008-10-30 Thread Don Harper
Been lurking a bit, decided to say hello. I have been using RH/Fedora since the Mother's Day release, and it has been my primary desktop since then. I have in the past been a line SA doing 1st, 2nd, and 3rd level support. I have been a sales-engineer supporting Linux solutions. I have been a php

Patch to fix EPEL dep scripts

2008-10-30 Thread Michael Stahnke
I think I solved the repo-closure/deps scripts issues. Now it should be back to sending only one email, (instead of 6). Also, there was an indentation issue in the reporting program that was causing the dependencies problems to be cleared. Please test this once before putting in production. I

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Amazon Software License

2008-10-30 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 14:08 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote: Tom spot Callaway wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 13:52 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote: I would like to check the validity of the Amazon Software License for use in a package within Fedora. The text is below, with the original text taken

Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-30 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 30.10.2008 02:03, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 11:47 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: The current recommendations are to get it from those still willing to risk distributing it (rpmfusion currently is not) [...] What's the proposed alternative? Suppose we can't get libdvdcss

Re: httpd access problems

2008-10-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 30 October 2008, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 15:34 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: And that was one of the clues, confirmed by an ls -l in the real files directory. I just did a chmod 0644 * in that directory, try it again please. Don't forget world executable permissions on

Re: Gallery2 installation, so where is it?

2008-10-30 Thread scwmok
Hi Chris, I am trying to install the gallery2 on my RHEL 5, would you mind if you can tell me the download link of the gallery2? Thanks Stephen -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org

Re: What is filesystem panic?

2008-10-30 Thread Per Anton Rønning
Rick Stevens wrote: Per Anton Rønning wrote: Rick Stevens wrote: Per Anton Rønning wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Per Anton Rønning wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Double check that you are accessing the correct device. USB drives do not always get assigned the same device. (It

firefox and .ram files [F9]

2008-10-30 Thread Joachim Backes
Hi, if using firefox and clicking on some urls pointing to .ram files, I get an error popup like: /tmp/allfilms-1.ram could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences. I couldn't find any advice how to solve this

Re: firefox and .ram files [F9]

2008-10-30 Thread Ed Greshko
Joachim Backes wrote: Hi, if using firefox and clicking on some urls pointing to .ram files, I get an error popup like: /tmp/allfilms-1.ram could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences. The first thing I would

Re: Installing a RPM

2008-10-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:29:48 -0400, brian wrote: Jim wrote: Rick Stevens wrote: Dave Burns wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tryed to install openoffice.org-pdfimport-3.0.0-9.6.fc10.i386.rpm and it needs a number dependencies like libuno_*,

How can I check whether or not a blacklisted device command is causing a problem?

2008-10-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
I have a really old bug (163701) for a problem with my DVD/CD burner that once upon a time used work with Fedora. Then for a while it would only work after first erasing a CD until the next reboot. Now it no longer burns CDs at all (but burning DVDs works). The bug languishes (possiblly because it

display doesn't allow me to have my conf

2008-10-30 Thread Zied Hamdi
Hi all, I have a problem on my display: my display is configured as a 1920x1200 LCD display. My graphic card supports that format :ATI Radeon Mobility X1400, and is correctly configured and recognized too, but I'm unable to run under my resolution: the best allowed one in system-config-display's

Re: display doesn't allow me to have my conf

2008-10-30 Thread Mogens Kjaer
Zied Hamdi wrote: Hi all, I have a problem on my display: my display is configured as a 1920x1200 LCD display. My graphic card supports that format :ATI Radeon Mobility X1400, and is correctly configured and recognized too, but I'm unable to run under my resolution: the best allowed one in

Can't load cpuspeed

2008-10-30 Thread Alessandro Boggiano
Hi all, I can't run cpuspeed on my wife's notebook:it's a Acer Aspire 3630 and it use a Intel Celeron CPU. FC8 and kernel 2.6.26.6-49.fc8. I even can't load the acpi_cpufreq module, this is the error message: FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq

Re: FONTS

2008-10-30 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 17:23 +0100, David Hláčik wrote: And yes, when i download Ubuntu fonts looks OK - becouse they are using different smoothing algoritmh. (patented ) When I last looked at it, it was pretty much the same as Fedora. Just a slightly different font face, and size. And that's

Re: (fedora) firefox and .ram files [F9]

2008-10-30 Thread Jouk Jansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : if using firefox and clicking on some urls pointing to .ram files, I get an error popup like: /tmp/allfilms-1.ram could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences. I have no problems with F9

Re: httpd access problems

2008-10-30 Thread Tim
Tim: Don't forget world executable permissions on directories. Gene Heskett: Ahh, so it should have been 0655, fixed I hope. Don't do that to files, you don't want to make all your webservable files executable, unless they need it (e.g. CGI scripts, or SHTML pages where you're using the X bit

Re: FONTS

2008-10-30 Thread Claude Jones
On Thu October 30 2008 7:57:38 am Tim wrote: When I last looked at it, it was pretty much the same as Fedora.  Just a slightly different font face, and size.  And that's about all it often takes to make the difference between nice looking fonts and mediocre displays - a *slight* change in the

Dropping Mac for Linux

2008-10-30 Thread kevin kempter
Hi All; I ran Linux as my main laptop OS for several years, then I got into a mac shop and bought a macbook. The macbook is ok but it just doesn't cut it per productivity so I've ordered another laptop (a 64bit laptop with 8G of memory expandable to 16G and 2 internal 320G 7200rpm drives)

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 04:10:31PM -0700, Alex Makhlin wrote: They are both different in many ways. I don't wish to take much time of this forum to answer this question. Ubuntu seems to be the main choice of major computer companies but why? What is so far better in Ubuntu then Fedora

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 08:34:38PM -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: I have never had rpm, yum or PackageKit crash on me, but that is a signature trait of Synaptic. With all respect, that's not universal. I've had absolute reliable Synaptic/apt/dpkg performance on four Ubuntu systems--one

Re: firefox and .ram files [F9]

2008-10-30 Thread Joachim Backes
Ed Greshko wrote: Joachim Backes wrote: Hi, if using firefox and clicking on some urls pointing to .ram files, I get an error popup like: /tmp/allfilms-1.ram could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences. The first

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 05:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I would like bugzilla.redhat.com to know what is consider deficient in the latest packagekit. In current Fedora 9.92/rawhide, it's completely busted: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467976 Discussion

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:24:16 -0600 Petrus de Calguarium [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and they lack the sophistication of rpm and yum, having to make due with the deficient and awkward apt system Huh? Synaptic is the one reason I might consider switching to ubuntu. You want to

ktorrent screen size?

2008-10-30 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; I had forgotten cuz I haven't ran it in a spell, but ktorrent's screen is about 3 feet tall. I can alt+lmb and drag it so I can see the bottom, but grabbing the bottom with the mouse to raise it back up doesn't work. I've even edited the ktorrentrc file without changing this. Is

Re: Dropping Mac for Linux

2008-10-30 Thread Mark Haney
kevin kempter wrote: Hi All; I ran Linux as my main laptop OS for several years, then I got into a mac shop and bought a macbook. The macbook is ok but it just doesn't cut it per productivity so I've ordered another laptop (a 64bit laptop with 8G of memory expandable to 16G and 2 internal

Re: FONTS

2008-10-30 Thread David Hláčik
To Tim and to Rex who made a similar point: If you didn't take a look at his screen grab, you probably should. His problem is not about aesthetics, nice looking vs. mediocre, unicode coverage vs. beauty -- he's got a much bigger issue than that... -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread vince
Il giorno gio, 30/10/2008 alle 07.55 -0500, Dave Ihnat ha scritto: It's not so much a matter of better in an absolute sense, as what's necessary to manage a system and/or network in a production environment. Fedora is bleeding-edge, and volatile. It's expected to be; this is where the new

Re: ktorrent screen size?

2008-10-30 Thread Todd Denniston
Gene Heskett wrote, On 10/30/2008 09:38 AM: Greetings; SNIP question I don't have an answer for Is this a known bug? Their bugzilla needs an account and password, which makes reporting a bug difficult if not impossible since I didn't paint it on the wall 5 years ago. I am also subscribed

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 18:33 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 05:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I would like bugzilla.redhat.com to know what is consider deficient in the latest packagekit. In current Fedora 9.92/rawhide, it's completely busted:

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Mark Haney
vince wrote: I agree with you, however, would also like to point out that personally I think Ubuntu is a compromise between RHE and Fedora. For a stable and safe business environment I would rather use Debian instead of Ubuntu. Regards vince I have to completely disagree with that. (At

Re: Dropping Mac for Linux

2008-10-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 09:47 -0400, Mark Haney wrote: 4) Is there a way to migrate apple mail messages to Kmail ? I do not know. Even a quick Google didn't really show anything that struck me as a way to do so, but YMMV. The answer depends on what you mean by apple mail messages. Assuming

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 18:33 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 05:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I would like bugzilla.redhat.com to know what is consider deficient in the latest packagekit. In current Fedora 9.92/rawhide, it's

Re: CUPS, Alpine, and printserving

2008-10-30 Thread Beartooth
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:48:27 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: [...] Strange that you have 2 entries. On the machines without the printer, you should be using the on that has: Device URI: ipp://something Probably at some point before all this, fiddling with CUPS, I tried an

Re: Can't load cpuspeed

2008-10-30 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alessandro Boggiano wrote: snip I even can't load the acpi_cpufreq module, this is the error message: check grub.conf, look for 'acpi=force' in 'kernel' line. if not there, add. if there, or you add and still does not load, i pass to those more

change DPI in Firefox

2008-10-30 Thread David Hláčik
Hello guys, I have Fedora 10 Rawhide, using Gnome, DPI set to 109px , but my Firefox successfully ignores that fact. How to set DPI for Firefox? Thanks! D. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines:

Re: Dropping Mac for Linux

2008-10-30 Thread Andrew Parker
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:25 AM, kevin kempter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4) Is there a way to migrate apple mail messages to Kmail ? A generic way to migrate emails from one client to another, even across OSes, is to set up an IMAP server; configure your original client to use the IMAP server

Re: firefox and .ram files [F9]

2008-10-30 Thread Ed Greshko
Joachim Backes wrote: thanks for your advice, but sorry, in the FF preferences for applications, I found no RAM ... entry, so deleting them was not applicable. Still .ram files cannot be opened. Then I would follow the advice of Jouk and abandon, remove, mozplugger. I just realized I

Re: 54 GB in /var/log!! -- UPDATE

2008-10-30 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 16:52 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Well, it is just a checkbox on the firewall configuration GUI, as this is a common port you need open on a local network. On all the machines that do NOT have the printer attached, make sure the Show printers shared by other

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 19:47 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 18:33 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 05:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I would like bugzilla.redhat.com to know what is consider deficient in

Re: httpd access problems

2008-10-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 30 October 2008, Tim wrote: Tim: Don't forget world executable permissions on directories. Gene Heskett: Ahh, so it should have been 0655, fixed I hope. Don't do that to files, you don't want to make all your webservable files executable, unless they need it (e.g. CGI scripts, or

Re: Can't load cpuspeed

2008-10-30 Thread Alessandro Boggiano
g ha scritto: Alessandro Boggiano wrote: snip I even can't load the acpi_cpufreq module, this is the error message: check grub.conf, look for 'acpi=force' in 'kernel' line. if not there, add. if there, or you add and still does not load, i pass to those more familiar with modules. - --

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Ed Greshko
Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 19:47 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 18:33 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 05:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I would like

PackageKit in rawhide

2008-10-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Ralf Corsepius wrote: Try Add/Remove software and try to install them. I can deterministically reproduce this breakdown. Shall I video tape it, if you don't want to believe me? Did I say, I did not believe you? I am just saying I can't reproduce the problem and I just did a installation of

F10 on eeepc 901

2008-10-30 Thread fred smith
Hi all! I've been playing with the latest F10 beta (live CD) on my eeepc 901. Most things seem to be working well: it finds the correct screen resolution (which is 1024x600, definitely not one of the common settings before the mini laptop craze began, and many live CDs don't set it right); it

Re: F10 on eeepc 901

2008-10-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
fred smith wrote: Hi all! I've been playing with the latest F10 beta (live CD) on my eeepc 901. Most things seem to be working well: it finds the correct screen resolution (which is 1024x600, definitely not one of the common settings before the mini laptop craze began, and many live CDs don't

Changing the size of a xterm

2008-10-30 Thread Aaron Konstam
I remember there was a way to change the size of an xterm but I can't remember what it is. What I want is the same thing ctrl-+ does with gnome-terminal. Any help out there? -- === An investment in knowledge always pays the best

Re: Installing a RPM

2008-10-30 Thread Jim
brian wrote: Jim wrote: Rick Stevens wrote: Dave Burns wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tryed to install openoffice.org-pdfimport-3.0.0-9.6.fc10.i386.rpm and it needs a number dependencies like libuno_*, these dependcies are in

Re: firefox and .ram files [F9]

2008-10-30 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 09:45 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote: Hi, if using firefox and clicking on some urls pointing to .ram files, I get an error popup like: /tmp/allfilms-1.ram could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your

Re: firefox and .ram files [F9]

2008-10-30 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 16:51 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Joachim Backes wrote: Hi, if using firefox and clicking on some urls pointing to .ram files, I get an error popup like: /tmp/allfilms-1.ram could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the

Re: FONTS

2008-10-30 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 08:31 -0400, Claude Jones wrote: If you didn't take a look at his screen grab, you probably should. I did. And when I view that image at 1:1 size, I find that the text rendering is reasonably good, both on LCD and CRT VDUs. Did you look at it in a web browser that shrinks

Re: CUPS, Alpine, and printserving

2008-10-30 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 14:17 +, Beartooth wrote: I've just gone through them again. Every machine has every box checked, Every box? So they're going to share out the printer that they've remotely accessed from another box? I see an opportunity for infinite regression happening here, as

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Vincenzo Campanella
Mark Haney ha scritto: I have to completely disagree with that. (At least the last part) I have a fairly large network (20+ systems, some SGI clusters) and I must say I have more trouble out of my Debian systems (put in before my time) than any other system I run. And we run everything from

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:45:18 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Makhlin) wrote: Hi all, Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or Fedora 9. Personally I like Fedora 9. I'll tell you the same thing here that I tell folks in the #fedora IRC channel: Both distros have live

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Kevin Fenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:45:18 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Makhlin) wrote: Hi all, Which one do you think is better and for what reasons. Ubuntu or Fedora 9. Personally I like Fedora 9. I'll tell you the same thing

Re: Fedora 9 Issues:

2008-10-30 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 10/28/2008 09:42 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 21:44 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seeing that there seems to be a consensus building that I have an installation issue, the prudent course of action would be to back up my files - pictures, documents etc. and reload with

fedora installation

2008-10-30 Thread Jerry Ro
hello all, I am interested in installing fedora on a laptop x61t (it is, to the best of my understanding, a 64bit machine.) a few questions I have: * should 60-80 GB be reasonable for full installation of fedora? * i would like to upgrade to fedora 10 when it is available. should i install the

Re: Installing a RPM

2008-10-30 Thread Robert Wuest
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 18:26 -0400, Jim wrote: I tryed to install openoffice.org-pdfimport-3.0.0-9.6.fc10.i386.rpm and it needs a number dependencies like libuno_*, these dependcies are in /opt/openoffice.org/ure/lib/ but they can't be found by rpm -ivh. If you are absolutely sure that

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:07:18AM -0400, Mark Haney wrote: I have to completely disagree with that. (At least the last part) I have a fairly large network (20+ systems, some SGI clusters) and I must say I have more trouble out of my Debian systems (put in before my time) than any other

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Tom Horsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:24:16 -0600 Petrus de Calguarium [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and they lack the sophistication of rpm and yum, having to make due with the deficient and awkward apt system Huh? Synaptic is the one

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 10:20 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Kevin Fenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:45:18 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Makhlin) wrote: Both distros have live media. Why don't you download them and try out each and

Re: PackageKit in rawhide

2008-10-30 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 20:08 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: Try Add/Remove software and try to install them. I can deterministically reproduce this breakdown. Shall I video tape it, if you don't want to believe me? A Video has been taped (unfortunately of very low

Re: Fedora 9 Rescue CD, where?

2008-10-30 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 10/28/2008 02:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 12:49 -0400, S P Arif Sahari Wibowo wrote: Hi! Do you know where I can find Fedora 9 Rescue CD ISO? I look everywhere under ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/ but could not find it.

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Les Mikesell
Dave Ihnat wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:28:22AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: However, there are conceptual differences in system administration so it is somewhat painful to jump back and forth between ubuntu and an RPM based system with redhat-style configuration frequently. True; but

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:02:46AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: Sure, but there were reasons that SysV, AIX, Solaris, HPUX etc. didn't share the best way do everything. Among opensource builds of essentially the same upstream packages there's less excuse to maintain intentional

Re: Which one is better Ubuntu Or Fedora 9

2008-10-30 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Ralf Corsepius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 10:20 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Kevin Fenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:45:18 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Makhlin) wrote: Both

Re: CUPS, Alpine, and printserving

2008-10-30 Thread Beartooth
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:37:33 +1030, Tim wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 14:17 +, Beartooth wrote: I've just gone through them again. Every machine has every box checked, [...] Every box? So they're going to share out the printer that they've remotely accessed from another box? I

Re: F10 on eeepc 901

2008-10-30 Thread fred smith
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 08:15:49PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: fred smith wrote: Hi all! I've been playing with the latest F10 beta (live CD) on my eeepc 901. Most things seem to be working well: it finds the correct screen resolution (which is 1024x600, definitely not one of the common

Re: 54 GB in /var/log!! -- UPDATE

2008-10-30 Thread Beartooth
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:44:14 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: Are you saying it should *not* be checked on the one *with* the printer?? Yes. OK, I just did. It tells me to hang on while the server restarts. And sits there. When I refresh the tab, it says no changes were made. But

Re: CUPS, Alpine, and printserving

2008-10-30 Thread Beartooth
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:13:10 +, Beartooth wrote: OK, I know what infinite regression is, but not enough about how printing (let alone print serving) works to see how it does that. So which should be unchecked, on which machine? My guess is that the one with the printer

Re: fedora installation

2008-10-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 11:37 -0400, Jerry Ro wrote: hello all, I am interested in installing fedora on a laptop x61t (it is, to the best of my understanding, a 64bit machine.) a few questions I have: * should 60-80 GB be reasonable for full installation of fedora? The full system itself

Re: 54 GB in /var/log!! -- UPDATE

2008-10-30 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Craig White wrote: snip so that means that if you preface comments as side notes, still have not found your mydol? If you buy a KVM that doesn't service USB mouse/keyboard connections, being that systems i am using are non usb k/m i have no need

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