Fedora 11 Snapshot 1

2009-04-10 Thread Jesse Keating
This is the first and final snapshot before our final devel freeze (April 14th) and subsequent preview release. On the torrent sites you'll find live images for testing. http://torrent.fedoraproject.org and http://spins.fedoraproject.org Lots of work has gone into the storage code of Anaconda

the Linux Graphics Users feature

2009-04-10 Thread Nicu Buculei
Remember the questions about our team we were asked some days ago for the Linux Graphics Users forum? The interview is live, you can read it at: http://linuxgraphicsusers.com/index.php?topic=705.msg5198 -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography:

Re: Fedora 11 countdown banner (artwork team release)

2009-04-10 Thread Paolo Leoni
Here you can find the italian translation for the F11 countdown banner with pre-redendered images: http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-countdown-banner_it.tar.gz Only a question: for the F11 preview release will be necessary a release banner or we'll go directly with final release banner? --

Re: idea for Fedora boot screen (Catalin Festila)

2009-04-10 Thread Cata
*My idea:* *Direct link* http://www.imagehosting.ro/images/ezo0czislu3w82fne4i1.gif *Thumbnail for websites* a href=http://www.imagehosting.ro/viewer.php?file=ezo0czislu3w82fne4i1.gif;img src=http://www.imagehosting.ro/images/ezo0czislu3w82fne4i1_thumb.gif; border=0 alt=ezo0czislu3w82fne4i1.gif

Re: Fedora 11 countdown banner (artwork team release)

2009-04-10 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 04/10/2009 12:44 PM, Paolo Leoni wrote: Here you can find the italian translation for the F11 countdown banner with pre-redendered images: http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-countdown-banner_it.tar.gz Only a question: for the F11 preview release will be necessary a release banner or

Re: idea for Fedora boot screen (Catalin Festila)

2009-04-10 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 04/10/2009 01:42 PM, Cata wrote: *My idea:* *Direct link* http://www.imagehosting.ro/images/ezo0czislu3w82fne4i1.gif Unfortunately something like this won't work, Fedora is an operating system for the entire world, we can't go with an English-only text. Due to localization concerns, is

Re: idea for Fedora boot screen (Catalin Festila)

2009-04-10 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Friday 10 April 2009 13:28:58 Nicu Buculei wrote: On a side note, your GIF is playing way to fast in my Firefox, I can barely understand what's happening on screen (we wish Fedora would boot *that* fast :p ) Moblin is partially based on Fedora and Intel developers want 2 seconds boot!!!

Re: idea for Fedora boot screen (Catalin Festila)

2009-04-10 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 04/10/2009 04:25 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: On Friday 10 April 2009 13:28:58 Nicu Buculei wrote: On a side note, your GIF is playing way to fast in my Firefox, I can barely understand what's happening on screen (we wish Fedora would boot *that* fast :p ) Moblin is partially based on Fedora

Re: idea for Fedora boot screen

2009-04-10 Thread Michael Langlie
Sorry about that. I had intended to but not yet found the way to animate GIFs in GIMP. Mike - Original Message - From: Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 3:03:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re:

Re: idea for Fedora boot screen

2009-04-10 Thread Máirín Duffy
Hi Nicu, - Original Message From: Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro Subject: Re: idea for Fedora boot screen On 04/09/2009 07:33 PM, Michael Langlie wrote: I added a third version that does not use the Fedora logo or branding. The layered Photoshop files are also zipped and

Re: idea for Fedora boot screen (Catalin Festila)

2009-04-10 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Friday 10 April 2009 15:38:38 Nicu Buculei wrote: On 04/10/2009 04:25 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: On Friday 10 April 2009 13:28:58 Nicu Buculei wrote: On a side note, your GIF is playing way to fast in my Firefox, I can barely understand what's happening on screen (we wish Fedora would

Re: idea for Fedora boot screen

2009-04-10 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 04/10/2009 04:35 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: It really sucks that our animation tools suck. I wonder if synfig [2] is any more up to snuff these days. I have not tried it lately. It could be a useful tool in the future. I saw Tatica talking about synfig as one of the applications she like,

Re: idea for Fedora boot screen

2009-04-10 Thread Máirín Duffy
- Original Message From: Michael Langlie mlang...@redhat.com To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sorry about that. I had intended to but not yet found the way to animate GIFs in GIMP. Nothing to be sorry about :) The animation looks great. If you ever need

Re: idea for Fedora boot screen

2009-04-10 Thread Charlie Brej
Michael Langlie wrote: Here are a couple animated GIFs (forgive the glow banding near the end) demonstrating ideas for a general/non-themed Fedora boot screen. They use the logo icon as a progress indicator before being applied as branding.

Re: idea for Fedora boot screen (Catalin Festila)

2009-04-10 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:38 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: Anyway, Moblin is intended for special devices, it will always boot faster than a general purpose distro. I think we all would be happy with something more realistic around 20 seconds. Well, it still takes kernel to load a few seconds

Re: Final artwork for F11, for KDE Spin, deadline final freeze

2009-04-10 Thread Rex Dieter
Jaroslav Reznik wrote: As we are running out of time, I'd like to see if there's a progress with current artwork ... We appreciate your hard work but we really need it ASAP to work on it... Here's the deal for the KDE Spin: unless there's some usable/final artwork available by the final

Re: Wanted: a Graphic Designer

2009-04-10 Thread MANNY HIDALBEMA
How can I help you... I really like desing much thing please contact to me. 2009/4/5, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: Hi http://loupgaroublond.blogspot.com/2009/04/wanted-graphic-designer.html The Ohio Linux Fest team is looking for a volunteer to do some graphic design

Re: Fedora 11 countdown banner (artwork team release)

2009-04-10 Thread MANNY HIDALBEMA
I don't know... but the lion it's out of place...I'm gonna try to send some design 2009/4/10, Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro: On 04/10/2009 12:44 PM, Paolo Leoni wrote: Here you can find the italian translation for the F11 countdown banner with pre-redendered images:

Re: idea for Fedora boot screen

2009-04-10 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 09:40 -0400, Michael Langlie wrote: Sorry about that. I had intended to but not yet found the way to animate GIFs in GIMP. One layer per frame, you'll specify that you want to make it animated during save. Not exactly convenient, since I haven't yet figured if there is a

Re: idea for Fedora boot screen

2009-04-10 Thread Cata
First , i try new boot screen with 20 sec and without text. I like first boot screen ( https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Fedora_boot_animation_01.gif) by Michael Langlie . Maybe next time i see more beautiful icons or boot screen. -- http://python-catalin.blogspot.com

Re: idea for Fedora boot screen

2009-04-10 Thread Charlie Brej
Charlie Brej wrote: Michael Langlie wrote: Here are a couple animated GIFs (forgive the glow banding near the end) demonstrating ideas for a general/non-themed Fedora boot screen. They use the logo icon as a progress indicator before being applied as branding.

Re: Fedora 11 countdown banner (artwork team release)

2009-04-10 Thread MANNY HIDALBEMA
I think strongly, if the name for the label is Leoniddas, it's not according to a lion, in fact Leonidas remember me a Wolf... Moreover, I think a Spartan helmet that looks like in the movie 300 is closer to Leonidas, that a lion I had been up loaded the sample to my wiki page too...

Leonidas backgrounds

2009-04-10 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi, because KDE folks need this ASAP I've put the lions backgrounds into rawhide [1]. Now a few notes for folks: * -common subpackage contains stuff shared between KDE and GNOME * -kdm subpackage contains simplified background for KDM * -landscape subpackage contains the

Re: Leonidas backgrounds

2009-04-10 Thread Máirín Duffy
Hi Martin, - Original Message From: Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com Now, a few notes for Samuele and whomever directly working on the backgrounds: * we need these sizes for dual screens: 4096x1536, 3840x1200, 2560x1024, I suppose the non-dual versions are

Re: Leonidas backgrounds

2009-04-10 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 14:35 -0700, Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi Martin, Hi Mo, Ian put these together: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11/RC#Wallpaper Ian has smaller versions for the 4:3 than I have (I've derived from the latest Samuele's iteration [1] which is 4070x1536, does not have

Re: Leonidas backgrounds

2009-04-10 Thread Ian Weller
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:33:01AM +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 14:35 -0700, Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi Martin, Hi Mo, Ian put these together: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11/RC#Wallpaper Ian has smaller versions for the 4:3 than I have (I've derived

Re: the Linux Graphics Users feature

2009-04-10 Thread María Leandro
Awesome Fedora team Rules :D 2009/4/11, Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro: Remember the questions about our team we were asked some days ago for the Linux Graphics Users forum? The interview is live, you can read it at: http://linuxgraphicsusers.com/index.php?topic=705.msg5198

Leonidas background brightness

2009-04-10 Thread Warren Togami
Hi, I really like the new leonidas lion background. I have only one question. I have various files sitting on the right side of the GNOME desktop. Their filenames are in white and are a bit difficult to read due to the brightness of the lion. I am wondering might it be a good idea to

Re: Leonidas backgrounds

2009-04-10 Thread Máirín Duffy
- Original Message From: Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com are we going to use the simplified version (i.e. without lion) for the single-screen wallpaper and add the lion only for dual-screen versions? That seems pretty odd to me... Yep that's the plan. ~m

Desire to join.

2009-04-10 Thread Brock Hudson
Hello, I would like to join the Fedora Artwork Project. I can provide some of my work (created on gimp, Scribus, Inkscape etc.) upon request. Thank you for any replies. _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or

[Bug 495252] Texts/Fonts are crappy.

2009-04-10 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495252 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

Meeting Log - 2008-04-09

2009-04-10 Thread Ricky Zhou
15:00 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Who's here? 15:01 * yingbull is. 15:01 mmcgrath Alrighty everyone, who's around? 15:01 * warren here 15:01 * skvidal is here 15:01 * notting is here 15:01 mmcgrath jcollie: you around? 15:02 jcollie yup 15:02

Re: Meeting Log - 2008-04-09

2009-04-10 Thread Ricky Zhou
Oops, as Jon pointed out, that log was from one year ago. Here's the correct one: 20:00 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Who's here? 20:00 mmcgrath So who's around? 20:00 * jds2001 hereish 20:00 * SmootherFrOgZ is 20:00 * ricky 20:01 mdomsch yo 20:01

[Fedora-legal-list] NIST license

2009-04-10 Thread Jerry James
Re: the recent speech recognition thread on Fedora-devel, I am looking at packaging up a few tools from http://www.nist.gov/speech/tools/, SPHERE in particular. However, the distribution contains no mention of a license. A query about this was answered with a pointer to this page:

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] NIST license

2009-04-10 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 04/09/2009 12:09 PM, Jerry James wrote: Re: the recent speech recognition thread on Fedora-devel, I am looking at packaging up a few tools from http://www.nist.gov/speech/tools/, SPHERE in particular. However, the distribution contains no mention of a license. A query about this was

Re: F10 : howto make automatic update without being asked root password ?

2009-04-10 Thread hicham
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net wrote: On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:06:59 + red one wrote: when packagekit starts running and updating, it asks for root's password to make updates, how can be this disabled ? Check the remember this authorization box the first

Re: F10 : howto make automatic update without being asked root password ?

2009-04-10 Thread hicham
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Frank Cox wrote: Check the remember this authorization box the first time it asks for the root password, enter the root password, and you'll never have to do it again after that. Alternatively, authorization can also

Re: Kde freezes in Fedora 10

2009-04-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 09 April 2009 18:43:09 Robin Laing wrote: I will have to try removing akonadi.  I have not found a use of it yet.   Maybe it will fix some of my problems. Sure. It might make coffee for you while it's doing it :-) What makes you think that akonadi has anything to do with this?

Re: FC7 to FC9 upgrade - keyboard shortcuts stopped working

2009-04-10 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 10 April 2009 00:34:19 Kevin Kofler wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: SystemSettings Keyboard and Mouse Keyboard Shortcuts - amend or create as necessary. BTW, if you are not yet updated to KDE 4.2.2, get it as soon as you can, as a lot of problems are fixed there. I'd suggest going

F10: Qt applications show corrupted fonts after upgrade

2009-04-10 Thread wwp
Hello there, after rebooted my Dell Latitude E6500 laptop right after the latest yum update, I notice that all Qt applications (qtconfig-qt4, skype, psi) show corrupted fonts. Fonts are unreadable, they're a random drop of colourful pixels. Intel graphics, GNOME desktop. In KDE, KDE and Qt

Re: emacs question: removing self keyword in python-mode

2009-04-10 Thread Steven F. LeBrun
Evan Klitzke wrote: I know, this is an emacs question and not a fedora question per se. But I've asked my question on the emacs help news group without a response, and I know there are some emacs users lurking around these parts, so I thought I'd try here :-) My question is stated previously

Re: openvpn - urgent help requested!

2009-04-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
Timothy Murphy wrote: I'm just about the depart for a week in Italy, and have set up openvpn to communicate from there with my server at home. I notice that ifconfig on the server gives inet addr:192.168.5.1 P-t-P:192.168.5.2 Mask:255.255.255.255 while ifconfig on the client gives

Re: openvpn - urgent help requested!

2009-04-10 Thread Andrew Parker
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: I'm just about the depart for a week in Italy, and have set up openvpn to communicate from there with my server at home. I notice that ifconfig on the server gives     inet addr:192.168.5.1  

Re: F10: Qt applications show corrupted fonts after upgrade

2009-04-10 Thread Neal Becker
wwp wrote: Hello there, after rebooted my Dell Latitude E6500 laptop right after the latest yum update, I notice that all Qt applications (qtconfig-qt4, skype, psi) show corrupted fonts. Fonts are unreadable, they're a random drop of colourful pixels. Intel graphics, GNOME desktop.

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-10 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 01:50 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: g wrote: this is interesting and brings a question, are you saying that ubuntu and fedora use /etc/event.d/ instead of inittab or just ubuntu? Just Ubuntu. Kevin Kofler Well it exists in F9 at least. Are you saying it is

Re: Chown ???

2009-04-10 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 21:55 +0100, psmith wrote: the first ever program being 10 print phil is cool 20 goto 10 run Blasphemer! Stone him, stone him, he used a GOTO! That word is forbidden and must never be uttered... ;-) lol, and we also learned logo with the edinburgh turtle that

Re: Screensavers fighting

2009-04-10 Thread Tim
Beartooth: (In English, roughly, Every art contributes to the greatest of all the arts, the art of living.) g: i can find better things to do with my time than sit around and watch a screensaver. I don't know, I rather like my rotating art gallery while I'm listening to the radio. ;-)

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Aaron Konstam wrote: Well it exists in F9 at least. Are you saying it is not used? It's used for event scripts. But the default runlevel is set in /etc/inittab, not in a script in /etc/event.d, whereas Ubuntu does the latter. To be more precise, Fedora's /etc/event.d/rcS script reads the

Re: Compiling problem

2009-04-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jim wrote: FC 8 It's called Fedora 8, not FC 8. And it's no longer supported. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Chown ???

2009-04-10 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/10 Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au: If you're a moderately old-timer, you can do hex to binary in your head. If you're even older, you can do octal to decimal, and vice versa.  For extra brownie points, you know EBCDIC in your head.  ;-) I'm under 30 and I can do that. I belong to

Re: Chown ???

2009-04-10 Thread Peter Neilson
Tim wrote: If you're a moderately old-timer, you can do hex to binary in your head. If you're even older, you can do octal to decimal, and vice versa. For extra brownie points, you know EBCDIC in your head. ;-) Still do octal. Used to know EBCDIC, used to know JCL DD cards, used to know

Re: Compiling problem

2009-04-10 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/10 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: Jim wrote: FC 8 It's called Fedora 8, not FC 8. And it's no longer supported. This bit of pedantry would be more impressive if this weren't the case: $ rpm -qa --queryformat '%{RELEASE}\n' | cut -d. -f2 | grep fc | sort | uniq -c 1110 fc10

Re: Chown ???

2009-04-10 Thread jdow
From: Bryn M. Reeves b...@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, 2009/April/08 07:42 On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 14:33 +, g wrote: Dave Ihnat wrote: I don't know where anyone got this lame substitute user stuff, but it's not authentic. then run 'man su' in a linux os and you will find out. Since

Re: F10: Qt applications show corrupted fonts after upgrade

2009-04-10 Thread wwp
Hello Neal, On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:05:41 -0400 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: wwp wrote: Hello there, after rebooted my Dell Latitude E6500 laptop right after the latest yum update, I notice that all Qt applications (qtconfig-qt4, skype, psi) show corrupted fonts. Fonts

Re: Chown ???

2009-04-10 Thread jdow
From: Rick Stevens ri...@nerd.com Sent: Thursday, 2009/April/09 14:52 psmith wrote: my first computer was a spektrum 48k, it used a casette tape for storage and had great games like jet set willy and saboteur, we also used one at primary school where i started to learn to program spektrum

Re: Chown ???

2009-04-10 Thread James Kosin
Tim wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 21:55 +0100, psmith wrote: the first ever program being 10 print phil is cool 20 goto 10 run Blasphemer! Stone him, stone him, he used a GOTO! That word is forbidden and must never be uttered... ;-) Actually, GOTO was very heavily in BASIC

Re: Compiling problem

2009-04-10 Thread Jim
Armin wrote: On Thursday 09 April 2009 23:14:01 Jim wrote: Thank you that solved the compile problem, but when i tried to execute inq i get this error message; $ inq inq: error while loading shared libraries: libinklevel.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory The

Re: Compiling problem

2009-04-10 Thread David
On 4/10/2009 10:33 AM, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/4/10 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: Jim wrote: FC 8 It's called Fedora 8, not FC 8. And it's no longer supported. This bit of pedantry would be more impressive if this weren't the case: $ rpm -qa --queryformat '%{RELEASE}\n' | cut -d.

xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Craig White
I am getting no traction on xorg mail list - perhaps I cannot ask in a way that makes them answer but the idea is... Fedora 11 Beta (xrandr 1.3 - yeah!) If I manually execute the command... xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --panning 1280x1024 I sort of get what I want...well, the

Re: Compiling problem

2009-04-10 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/10 David dgbo...@comcast.net: On 4/10/2009 10:33 AM, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/4/10 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: Jim wrote: FC 8 It's called Fedora 8, not FC 8. And it's no longer supported. This bit of pedantry would be more impressive if this weren't the case: $ rpm -qa

Goto [Was Re: Chown ???]

2009-04-10 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:07:00AM -0400, James Kosin wrote: Actually, GOTO was very heavily in BASIC programming language. There was no idea of statement blocks back then. It may be the only language at the time where it isn't considered taboo. That's been a bone of contention for, literally

Re: Compiling problem

2009-04-10 Thread David
On 4/10/2009 11:24 AM, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/4/10 David dgbo...@comcast.net: On 4/10/2009 10:33 AM, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/4/10 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: Jim wrote: FC 8 It's called Fedora 8, not FC 8. And it's no longer supported. This bit of pedantry would be more

Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/10 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com: I am getting no traction on xorg mail list - perhaps I cannot ask in a way that makes them answer but the idea is... Fedora 11 Beta (xrandr 1.3 - yeah!) If I manually execute the command... xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --panning

Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/10 Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com: 2009/4/10 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com: I am getting no traction on xorg mail list - perhaps I cannot ask in a way that makes them answer but the idea is... Fedora 11 Beta (xrandr 1.3 - yeah!) If I manually execute the

Re: Compiling problem

2009-04-10 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 11:19 -0400, Jim wrote: Armin wrote: In this case, it's not there, so you would have to compile it :) I did compile libinklevel it is in ; /usr/local/lib/libinklevel.a /usr/local/lib/libinklevel.la /usr/local/lib/libinklevel.so /usr/local/lib/libinklevel.so.5

Re: Chown ???

2009-04-10 Thread Aldo Foot
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 8:07 AM, James Kosin jko...@beta.intcomgrp.com wrote: Tim wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 21:55 +0100, psmith wrote: the first ever program being 10 print phil is cool 20 goto 10 run Blasphemer!  Stone him, stone him, he used a GOTO!  That word is forbidden and must

Re: KDE: Plasma not starting

2009-04-10 Thread Rex Dieter
Kelly Miller wrote: Yeah, I tried removing all the config files (I entirely erased the contents of ~/.kde. Twice). It works under root, but not for any of the users, so I suspect the real cause is related to the fact that except for root, all the user logins are provided via OpenLDAP, and

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-10 Thread g
Aaron Konstam wrote: Well it exists in F9 at least. Are you saying it is not used? existence and usage are 2 different things. what i said is that in version of f10 that i have installed, i changed from level 5 to level 3 via inittab. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world

RE: Chown ???

2009-04-10 Thread bruce
like i mentioned a 1972 teletype, with paper scroll tape, hooked to the local college system, as a 11 year old.. doing basic/GOTO/Loops... my 1st programming... wrote a really basic (pun intended!!) program to play poker.. 1st started learning statistical probability, arrays, etc...

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-10 Thread g
Kevin Kofler wrote: Just Ubuntu. ok. just wanted to be clear and sure something was not wrong with my f10 install. :) -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today ** to mess up a linux

Re: F10: Qt applications show corrupted fonts after upgrade

2009-04-10 Thread Rex Dieter
wwp wrote: after rebooted my Dell Latitude E6500 laptop right after the latest yum update, I notice that all Qt applications (qtconfig-qt4, skype, psi) show corrupted fonts. Fonts are unreadable, they're a random drop of colourful pixels. rpm -q qt freetype freetype-freeworld please. What

Re: openvpn - urgent help requested!

2009-04-10 Thread Tony Molloy
On Friday 10 April 2009 11:50:33 Timothy Murphy wrote: If I ssh into my home server, ifconfig gives: tun0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 inet addr:192.168.5.1 P-t-P:192.168.5.2

Re: Screensavers fighting

2009-04-10 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:35:20 +0930 Tim wrote: Actually, on that note, I wouldn't mind a /screensaver/ that did an interesting slide show, with a few configurable options. Though I never got around to setting it up myself, I always thought that the idea of using xmame as a screensaver would

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2009-04-10 Thread Amilton Luiz Schiavon Junior
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2009-04-10 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
No but you could... This link is on every single message: To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines:

Re: Goto [Was Re: Chown ???]

2009-04-10 Thread Les
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 10:32 -0500, Dave Ihnat wrote: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:07:00AM -0400, James Kosin wrote: Actually, GOTO was very heavily in BASIC programming language. There was no idea of statement blocks back then. It may be the only language at the time where it isn't

Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:43 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/4/10 Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com: 2009/4/10 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com: I am getting no traction on xorg mail list - perhaps I cannot ask in a way that makes them answer but the idea is... Fedora 11

Re: Goto [Was Re: Chown ???]

2009-04-10 Thread James Kosin
Dave Ihnat wrote: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:07:00AM -0400, James Kosin wrote: Actually, GOTO was very heavily in BASIC programming language. There was no idea of statement blocks back then. It may be the only language at the time where it isn't considered taboo. That's been a bone of

Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/10 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com: On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:43 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/4/10 Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com: 2009/4/10 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com: I am getting no traction on xorg mail list - perhaps I cannot ask in a way that

Re: Need help with Reboot cause

2009-04-10 Thread g
peter, excuse delay. personal reasons. i have been over your readings and they are not far off, but they are not as close as would like to see. this may be from not being calibrated. Peter J. Stieber wrote: g i do hope peter stieber is picking up on all this. :) He is :-) I loaded

Re: Screensavers fighting

2009-04-10 Thread g
Beartooth wrote: Sure, when you have enough of it to start something. But if you're merely waiting for some yum command to finish, what then? Watch that?? what ever churns your butter. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help

Re: Screensavers fighting

2009-04-10 Thread g
Tim wrote: even change the delay period, and you have to make a new desktop file if you want it to load from some other directory. seldom do you get what you want by default anymore. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp

Re: Screensavers fighting

2009-04-10 Thread g
Frank Cox wrote: Though I never got around to setting it up myself, I always thought that the idea of using xmame as a screensaver would be cool. There even is (was?) an xscreesaver configuration file for xmame floating around at one time. xmame is still available at freshmeat. do not know

Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 19:01 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/4/10 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com: On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:43 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/4/10 Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com: 2009/4/10 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com: I am getting no traction

Re: (no subject)

2009-04-10 Thread g
Amilton Luiz Schiavon Junior wrote: Could you exclude my e-mail from this list? thank you could you read next to last line of post to see where it says 'To unsubscribe:'. you are welcome. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft

Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/10 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com: On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 19:01 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/4/10 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com: On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:43 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/4/10 Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com: 2009/4/10 Craig White

Re: Chown ???

2009-04-10 Thread jdow
From: Aldo Foot luni...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, 2009/April/10 09:17 On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 8:07 AM, James Kosin jko...@beta.intcomgrp.com wrote: Tim wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 21:55 +0100, psmith wrote: the first ever program being 10 print phil is cool 20 goto 10 run Blasphemer!

Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 19:23 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/4/10 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com: On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 19:01 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/4/10 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com: On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:43 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/4/10 Sharpe, Sam J

Re: Chown ???

2009-04-10 Thread psmith
Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/4/9 psmith johnsmithdo...@googlemail.com: my first computer was a spektrum 48k, it used a casette tape for storage and had great games like jet set willy and saboteur, we also used one at primary school where i started to learn to program spektrum basic. Then

Re: Goto [Was Re: Chown ???]

2009-04-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 10:32 -0500, Dave Ihnat wrote: The purpose of deprecating use of goto was to avoid the spaghetti code that was so prevalent, especially in C. Bzzzt. Close but no cigar. The problems with Goto were pointed out by Dijkstra in his famous 1968 letter to CACM Go To Statement

Re: Chown ???

2009-04-10 Thread psmith
Rick Stevens wrote: psmith wrote: my first computer was a spektrum 48k, it used a casette tape for storage and had great games like jet set willy and saboteur, we also used one at primary school where i started to learn to program spektrum basic, the first ever program being 10 print phil

Re: Chown ???

2009-04-10 Thread Rick Stevens
jdow wrote: From: Rick Stevens ri...@nerd.com Sent: Thursday, 2009/April/09 14:52 psmith wrote: my first computer was a spektrum 48k, it used a casette tape for storage and had great games like jet set willy and saboteur, we also used one at primary school where i started to learn to

Re: Goto [Was Re: Chown ???]

2009-04-10 Thread Rick Stevens
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 10:32 -0500, Dave Ihnat wrote: The purpose of deprecating use of goto was to avoid the spaghetti code that was so prevalent, especially in C. Bzzzt. Close but no cigar. The problems with Goto were pointed out by Dijkstra in his famous 1968

Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/10 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com: On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 19:23 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/4/10 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com: On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 19:01 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/4/10 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com: On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:43 +0100,

Re: Goto [Was Re: Chown ???]

2009-04-10 Thread jdow
From: Rick Stevens ri...@nerd.com Sent: Friday, 2009/April/10 12:00 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 10:32 -0500, Dave Ihnat wrote: The purpose of deprecating use of goto was to avoid the spaghetti code that was so prevalent, especially in C. Bzzzt. Close but no cigar. The

Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread psmith
Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/4/10 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com: On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 19:01 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/4/10 Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com: On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 16:43 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/4/10 Sharpe, Sam J

Re: xorg virtual / panning question

2009-04-10 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/10 psmith psm...@fedoraproject.org: where's ajax when he's really needed? 1 - Scrubbing floors? 2 - Fighting Trojans? 3 - Playing Football? -- Sam [1] http://www.colgate.com/app/Colgate/US/HC/Products/HouseholdCleaners/Ajax.cvsp [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_(mythology) [3]

Re: Goto [Was Re: Chown ???]

2009-04-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 12:00 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 10:32 -0500, Dave Ihnat wrote: The purpose of deprecating use of goto was to avoid the spaghetti code that was so prevalent, especially in C. Bzzzt. Close but no cigar. The problems

Re: openvpn - urgent help requested!

2009-04-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
Andrew Parker wrote: Just to follow up on myself - I'm in Italy now, and everything works fine _except_ VPN. I can ssh into my home server, get IMAP email from it, and generally interact with it as I do at home, If I ssh into my home server, ifconfig gives:

Re: KDE: Plasma not starting

2009-04-10 Thread Kelly Miller
2 things to look for here: nfs locking *must* work, else - FAIL selinux contexts for home directories must be set correctly -- Rex I always turn SELinux off at the beginning; I don't need the added security on my home network right now. I believe NFS locking works fine; I used to turn it

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