Fedora Weekly News #171

2009-04-13 Thread Oisin Feeley
Fedora Weekly News Issue 171 Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 171 for the week ending April 12th, 2009. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue171 Our latest issue includes important Announcements about Fedora 11 and freeze statuses. Ambassadors celebrates the way Italians Fete Document

Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork

2009-04-13 Thread William Jon McCann
Hey Jeff, Sorry, very late to this thread - just catching up. I agree that in the future it is wise to avoid these types of issues. In other context where I am hoping to work with wallpapers I intended to use the following: Images of people, buildings, and flags should probably be avoided.

Re: Leonidas background brightness

2009-04-13 Thread Máirín Duffy
- Original Message From: William Jon McCann william.jon.mcc...@gmail.com To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 2:00:15 PM Subject: Re: Leonidas background brightness Hey, On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Warren Togami wrote: Hi,

Re: Leonidas background brightness

2009-04-13 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 11:36 -0700, Máirín Duffy wrote: - Original Message From: William Jon McCann william.jon.mcc...@gmail.com To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 2:00:15 PM Subject: Re: Leonidas background brightness Hey,

Re: Extra Backgrounds package

2009-04-13 Thread William Jon McCann
Hey, On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Marek Mahut mma...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Dear art team, We will be releasing Fedora Astronomy spin this release and I'd like to include also an extra wallpapers with it - is the extra backgrounds package ready? If not, is it OK with you to create

Re: Improving Leonidas Backgrounds

2009-04-13 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 12:51 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: Here are the exported JPGs [4][5], I'll upload the source xcf too (but on the wiki) if one of the designs would be accepted. Ok, based on the feedback, I've just uploaded the version without stripes [1] (although they are still present as

Re: F11 Art Schedule

2009-04-13 Thread John Poelstra
Máirín Duffy said the following on 04/07/2009 06:18 PM Pacific Time: cut (John, I apologize these are different than your numbering scheme.) That's okay :) 1. Wallpaper Design - We have the basic design from Samuele in 1920x1600:

Re: Improving Leonidas Backgrounds

2009-04-13 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 20:24 -0500, Ian Weller wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 09:09:42PM +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 12:51 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: Here are the exported JPGs [4][5], I'll upload the source xcf too (but on the wiki) if one of the designs would be

Request for Temporary Tattoo Art.

2009-04-13 Thread David Duncan
I would like to request assistance for the creation of a temporary tattoo design. The temporary tattoo will be included in Ambassadors Kits for North America. The design of the temporary tattoo would be based upon the existing artwork for the laptop sticker found at

[Bug 490830] Nafees Web Naksha should drop Preferred Family name

2009-04-13 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490830 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 490830] Nafees Web Naksha should drop Preferred Family name

2009-04-13 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490830 Ben Laenen bl.b...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added

rpms/pango/devel .cvsignore, 1.85, 1.86 pango.spec, 1.158, 1.159 sources, 1.86, 1.87

2009-04-13 Thread Matthias Clasen
Author: mclasen Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/pango/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv5001 Modified Files: .cvsignore pango.spec sources Log Message: 1.24.1 Index: .cvsignore === RCS file:

[Bug 477474] [un-core-fonts] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2009-04-13 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477474 Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 491957] [culmus-fonts] Please rebuild for Fedora 11 to pick up font autodeps

2009-04-13 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491957 --- Comment #2 from Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com 2009-04-14 01:57:23 EDT --- ping -- Configure bugmail:

[Bug 491976] [fonts-ISO8859-2] Please rebuild for Fedora 11 to pick up font autodeps

2009-04-13 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491976 Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

so then me

2009-04-13 Thread Jörg Stephan
Hi all, so i've somelse introducing themselfs, so maybe i should introduce myself to. My name is Joerg Stephan and i'am close to 30 years now. Iam from the south-west of Germany (Saarland if someone wanne know) and i'am currently trying to finish my study of mathematik and computer science. I

Re: Introduction

2009-04-13 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Mayuresh Kulkarni wrote: Hello folks, I have been a fedora user for a couple of months now and I would like to thank you all for this wonderful distro! About me - I am a programmer, working mostly in the systems programming domain. I am quite comfortable with C/C++ but

Re: Intro

2009-04-13 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Nattie wrote: Hi there guys, i have used fedora since the day 10 came out, (its the most awesome OS ever), and i wanted to say thanks for all the effort you guys put in. About me: I mainly write programs, but i sometimes do small web things, i pretty much adaptable to

Re: so then me

2009-04-13 Thread Mike McGrath
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Jörg Stephan wrote: Hi all, so i've somelse introducing themselfs, so maybe i should introduce myself to. My name is Joerg Stephan and i'am close to 30 years now. Iam from the south-west of Germany (Saarland if someone wanne know) and i'am currently trying to finish

Re: so then me

2009-04-13 Thread Jörg Stephan
Hi Mike, well, so nothing in particular yet. I think i just gonne have look on some parts. But if you know something just tell me. I think i can be on the meetings not every week but hope so mostly. Greets Joerg 2009/4/13 Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Jörg Stephan

Re: Intro

2009-04-13 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
Mike Can you recommend something to learn python and turbogears fast ? Welcome Nathanael, were if you are interested in hacking on some of our turbogears / python applications let us know!  Also you should look at the bugzappers group as they're always interested in C/C++ programmers.    

Introduction

2009-04-13 Thread Carlos Eduardo Pedroza Santiviago
Hi all, My name is Carlos Eduardo Pedroza Santiviago, i'm a sysadmin from Brazil, where i mainly work with UNIX/Linux servers administration. I have LPIC-3 Certification, and have worked with Linux for 10+ years. My interest in Fedora (Red Hat) has increased recently, since i mostly used

Re: Introduction

2009-04-13 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
bem vindo, o pessoal de infraestrutura precisa de pessoas com conhecimento em python/turbogears. e o pessoal do desenvolvimento precisa de pessoas com conhecimento em c/++ sinta-se a vontade em me contactar. n Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Carlos Eduardo Pedroza Santiviago

Re: Intro

2009-04-13 Thread Brennan Ashton
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Itamar Reis Peixoto ita...@ispbrasil.com.br wrote: Mike Can you recommend something to learn python and turbogears fast ? Welcome Nathanael, were if you are interested in hacking on some of our turbogears / python applications let us know!  Also you should

Re: Hi

2009-04-13 Thread Vinay Amatya
Hi Mike, For the timebeing, I'm not sure I can hangout on Thursdays for the meeting(I can do that after a couple of weeks). I did log in once, but didn't know who to contact Please let me know what I should start looking into, and I could put questions if there are any ambiguities. cheers,

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] NIST license

2009-04-13 Thread Jerry James
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: NIST's statement above seems to only apply to their World Wide Web pages. They're not declaring it public domain either, they're granting explicit rights to distribute and copy. It is notably more complicated to put

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] NIST license

2009-04-13 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 04/13/2009 01:08 PM, Jerry James wrote: Yeah, probably. I'm on so many mailing lists already, how much pain could one more cause me? :-) Hmmm, why doesn't this list appear on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate ? Dunno. It is there now. :) ~spot

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-13 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 15:30 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: (1) What am I trying to do? Install the proprietary nvidia drivers for my video card. Nvidia advises that the X Window System be stopped during installation. This can be done in either runlevel 1 or 3. Level 3 is better, but since

Re: Rhytymbox error

2009-04-13 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 16:36 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: I've loaded what I think are all gstreamer plugins. List what you think all of them are... I have no problems playing mp3s on that version of Rhythmbox on Fedora 9 with the following gstreamer related files installed: rpm -qa

Re: MTRR survey: better X performance on systems with 3G or more RAM

2009-04-13 Thread Bob Marcan
On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 23:58:38 -0400 (EDT) D. Hugh Redelmeier h...@mimosa.com wrote: == What I'd like to know about your system: Computer brand and model (or motherboard info): Supermicro C2SBA motherboard, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPUQ9400 @ 2.66GHz video

Re: Routing problems with rawhide

2009-04-13 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi again, If nobody can help here, do you have some ideas howto debug that routing problem? Whats your typical way of finding whats going wrong? Thanks, Clemens 2009/4/6 Clemens Eisserer linuxhi...@gmail.com: Hi, I use my Laptop to route my brothers computer to the internet through my UMTS

Using out-of-date GPG to sign Fedora releases...

2009-04-13 Thread Bram_Gro
Hi, It will be appreciated if all the checksums of future releases are signed with a up-to-date version of GPG. There are currently some files, including all of the Fedora 11 releases that are signed with a out-of-date version of Gnupg 1.4.5 from 2006, instead of the latest 1.4.9. I don't

Re: Rhytymbox error

2009-04-13 Thread Max Pyziur
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 16:36 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: I've loaded what I think are all gstreamer plugins. List what you think all of them are... I have no problems playing mp3s on that version of Rhythmbox on Fedora 9 with the following gstreamer related files

Re: Rhytymbox error

2009-04-13 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 06:52 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: To clarify, I don't have a problem playing mp3s; I just get the error message at startup: Music Player requires additional plugins An additional plugin is required to play this content The following plugin is required: ID3 Tag demuxer I

Re: Using out-of-date GPG to sign Fedora releases...

2009-04-13 Thread Todd Zullinger
Bram_Gro wrote: It will be appreciated if all the checksums of future releases are signed with a up-to-date version of GPG. There are currently some files, including all of the Fedora 11 releases that are signed with a out-of-date version of Gnupg 1.4.5 from 2006, instead of the latest 1.4.9.

Installation of Fedora11 for visually impaired

2009-04-13 Thread Leslie Satenstein
I am 68 years old, and here is my number one complaint about installing Fedora 11 beta. Anaconda sets the monitor to the highest possible resolution. This resolution is around 6-7 points in size (1600x1200 or it seems 2400x1800) for the CRT monitor. With a magnifying glass, I can detail the

USB handling

2009-04-13 Thread Robert Karge
There are USB devices which do not fit the 'storage-device' category. It negatively effects my use of certain common devices such as my PDA. And powerfully negatively effects my use of VirtualBox. It doesn't seem to matter what release version from 7 thru 10. I have already tried numerous other

Re: Routing problems with rawhide

2009-04-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 05:45:24 -0400, Clemens Eisserer linuxhi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, If nobody can help here, do you have some ideas howto debug that routing problem? Whats your typical way of finding whats going wrong? The ip commands will tell you how your network interfaces

Re: how to add stuff to crontab without using crontab -e

2009-04-13 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Antonio Olivares wrote: Dear fellow Fedora users, I want to know if it is possible to edit/append to crontab without using crontab -e. I have about 10 machines running Fedora and at the end of the day I have to manually power them off (shutdown). For a while, I started thinking about it, well

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-13 Thread Mike Burger
Mike Burger wrote: Ubuntu (the distro in which I believe upstart to have been started) has done away with the inittab, altogether, in favor of another script in their /etc/events.d (their equivalent of Fedora's /etc/event.d) directory that determines default runlevel. Maybe Fedora needs

Re: NetworkManager and domain names in /etc/resolv.conf

2009-04-13 Thread Mike Burger
Hi, I don't know if this has already been asked: Before using NetworkManager I had my own domain entries in /etc/resolv.conf, but since I use NetworkManager, additional entries in /etc/resolv.conf are only living until the next reboot because NetworkManager seems to re-build

Re: Rhytymbox error

2009-04-13 Thread suvayu ali
2009/4/13 Max Pyziur p...@brama.com: On Mon, 13 Apr 2009, Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 16:36 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: I've loaded what I think are all gstreamer plugins. List what you think all of them are... I have no problems playing mp3s on that version of Rhythmbox on Fedora 9

Re: F10 guest on CentOS 5.3 host using KVM

2009-04-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jonathan Dieter wrote: I'm running CentOS 5.3 on a server with four virtual machines running on it, three running CentOS 5.3 and one running Fedora 10. I have just switched over to using KVM (kvm-0.84 and libvirt-0.6.1) rather than Xen because I want my F10 virtual machine to be able to use

Re: install to usb, when bios does not see usb?

2009-04-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
jackson byers wrote: Please bear with me on this newbie question, my install experience is quite limited. Is it possible to install to usb external disk when bios does not see usb? Should be possible to install to it, you have three options: - install DVD - Live CD using the menu install

Re: Using out-of-date GPG to sign Fedora releases...

2009-04-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:30:35 -0400, Todd wrote: Bram_Gro wrote: It will be appreciated if all the checksums of future releases are signed with a up-to-date version of GPG. There are currently some files, including all of the Fedora 11 releases that are signed with a out-of-date version

Re: MTRR survey: better X performance on systems with 3G or more RAM

2009-04-13 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Bob Marcan bob.mar...@gmail.com Thanks very much for trying this. I'm quite surprised at your observations. It looks to me as if your video card's buffer needed to be uncovered but the performance you observed didn't improve significantly. I've never seen that before. I'm wondering if

Re: Software request

2009-04-13 Thread Beartooth
On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 16:59:51 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: Beartooth wrote: Would some kind soul please make something like vilearn a/o vitutor available in a repo? I thought I had vilearn; but it seems what I have is only the text of the first chapter -- which opens in gedit, and is not

Re: Tar-1.20, as shipped by F10 question

2009-04-13 Thread John W. Linville
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 02:13:48PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Has fedora, in the patches applied to the tar-1.20 rpm, managed to make it ignore the passed option --no-device-check' do it without reporting an error? I can see the option being passed to it in the htop display when its

Re: how to add stuff to crontab without using crontab -e

2009-04-13 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Sunday, Apr 12th 2009 at 23:23 -, quoth Antonio Olivares: = =Dear fellow Fedora users, = =I want to know if it is possible to edit/append to crontab without using crontab -e. I have about 10 machines running Fedora and at the end of the day I have to manually power them off (shutdown).

Re: how to add stuff to crontab without using crontab -e

2009-04-13 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Steven W. Orr wrote: There have been a number of answers to your problem, none of which I like. Your crontab is handwritten source code and needs to be treated as such. You may not appreciate what I'm telling you until you actually one day lose your crontab. Edit a file in your home

Re: (no subject)

2009-04-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 23:40 -0400, m wrote: PERHAPS HE HAS POOR EYESIGHT!!! All-caps are harder to read than mixed caps and should be used sparingly. This has been well-known to the printing profession for several hundred years. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To

Re: how to add stuff to crontab without using crontab -e

2009-04-13 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Mon, 4/13/09, Steven W. Orr ste...@syslang.net wrote: From: Steven W. Orr ste...@syslang.net Subject: Re: how to add stuff to crontab without using crontab -e To: olivares14...@yahoo.com, Fedora List fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 8:57 AM On Sunday, Apr 12th

useradd and the default group

2009-04-13 Thread Carl D. Roth
Can some one explain the following weird behavior with useradd? # useradd -g mock -r -m -d /var/lib/mockuser mockuser -- create a new 'mockuser' user that can be used to run /usr/bin/mock # id mockuser uid=494(mockuser) gid=491(mock) groups=491(mock) # grep mock /etc/group

Re: (no subject)

2009-04-13 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 11:31 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: All-caps are harder to read than mixed caps and should be used sparingly. This has been well-known to the printing profession for several hundred years. Not to mention school teachers... It's with good reason that we're first

Re: Software request

2009-04-13 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 14:58 +, Beartooth wrote: Well, I'd rather start with plain vi, but OK; I do have vim installed -- I think; when I launch it, the top of the windo is labeled gvim You've started it from a menu? Then you're getting the GUIfied version. so how do I get to vimtutor?

Bluetooth mouse won't auto-connect

2009-04-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
I have a Logitech Bluetooth mouse with my Asus 1000HE netbook. In general it works very well (even the sideways scrolling feature) but I find I have to run hidd --search as root in order to get it to connect. I use KDE4 so I installed kbluetooth4 and at first was pleasantly suprised when it

Wifi won't reconnect on resume

2009-04-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
My Asus 1000HE netbook with F10 seems to work well, including suspend and resume, but the Wifi will *sometimes* (results seem to vary) refuse reconnect after the latter. No amount of fiddling with NM will persuade it. It shows the connection as down and there appears to be no way to make it

Re: Wifi won't reconnect on resume

2009-04-13 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 12:11 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: My Asus 1000HE netbook with F10 seems to work well, including suspend and resume, but the Wifi will *sometimes* (results seem to vary) refuse reconnect after the latter. No amount of fiddling with NM will persuade it. It shows the

Re: Bluetooth mouse won't auto-connect

2009-04-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:06:44 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Do I have to keep running 'su' to connect my mouse? Perhaps sticking the hidd command in /etc/rc.local would work? I haven't tried bluetooth in a while, but the last time I fooled with it to try and get a mouse/keyboard combo device

Re: MTRR survey: better X performance on systems with 3G or more RAM

2009-04-13 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: == What I'd like to know about your system: Computer brand and model (or motherboard info): video controller: X video driver: RAM: distro: MTRR problem: Fix: glxgears performance change: I tried it on HW: Asus P5E-VM HDMI MB with G35

Re: Wifi won't reconnect on resume

2009-04-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 09:51 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 12:11 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: My Asus 1000HE netbook with F10 seems to work well, including suspend and resume, but the Wifi will *sometimes* (results seem to vary) refuse reconnect after the latter. No

Re: Bluetooth mouse won't auto-connect

2009-04-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 13:10 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:06:44 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Do I have to keep running 'su' to connect my mouse? Perhaps sticking the hidd command in /etc/rc.local would work? I guess. I haven't tried bluetooth in a while, but the

Re: Wifi won't reconnect on resume

2009-04-13 Thread Jim
Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 12:11 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: My Asus 1000HE netbook with F10 seems to work well, including suspend and resume, but the Wifi will *sometimes* (results seem to vary) refuse reconnect after the latter. No amount of fiddling with NM will

Re: Total Number of Emails Managed By Thunderbird

2009-04-13 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 04/12/2009 08:10 PM, g wrote: Robert L Cochran wrote: Is there a way to get Thunderbird to present a total count of all emails which are in all folders? run a search at: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/ if nothing there, use 'advanced search' google. Providing a

Re: useradd and the default group

2009-04-13 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 13Apr2009 16:28, Carl D. Roth r...@ursus.net wrote: | Can some one explain the following weird behavior with useradd? | # useradd -g mock -r -m -d /var/lib/mockuser mockuser | -- create a new 'mockuser' user that can be used to run /usr/bin/mock | # id mockuser | uid=494(mockuser)

Re: Question about update of clamav

2009-04-13 Thread James Kosin
Steven W. Orr wrote: When I tried to update clamav using yum, it told me that I'm up to date. I've got 0.94.2 and .95 is out. Should I expect this to be available soon or how would this work? Questions: a) What version of fedora? 8, 9, 10? b) 0.95 made significant changes to milter. This

Re: Wifi won't reconnect on resume

2009-04-13 Thread Beartooth
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:11:02 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: My Asus 1000HE netbook with F10 seems to work well, including suspend and resume, but the Wifi will *sometimes* (results seem to vary) refuse reconnect after the latter. No amount of fiddling with NM will persuade it. It shows the

Re: Total Number of Emails Managed By Thunderbird

2009-04-13 Thread g
Jerry Feldman wrote: Providing a total count in all folders could be very costly. what and why need, is a bit of a puzzle that i will not lose sleep over. if he really has to have info, a 'find . -f' from 'local folders' with an 'exe grep -c From -' to get a total. not an exact of what it

Re: Total Number of Emails Managed By Thunderbird

2009-04-13 Thread Rick Stevens
Tim wrote: On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 13:41 -0400, Jerry Feldman wrote: Providing a total count in all folders could be very costly. First, what about imap where you have a server that can store thousands of emails for you, then local folders. Take my case where I have over 150 local folders

Question about update of clamav

2009-04-13 Thread Steven W. Orr
When I tried to update clamav using yum, it told me that I'm up to date. I've got 0.94.2 and .95 is out. Should I expect this to be available soon or how would this work? -- Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have .0. happened but none stranger than this.

Re: Total Number of Emails Managed By Thunderbird

2009-04-13 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 13:41 -0400, Jerry Feldman wrote: Providing a total count in all folders could be very costly. First, what about imap where you have a server that can store thousands of emails for you, then local folders. Take my case where I have over 150 local folders consisting of

Re: (no subject)

2009-04-13 Thread m
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 02:02:02AM +0930, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 11:31 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: All-caps are harder to read than mixed caps and should be used sparingly. This has been well-known to the printing profession for several hundred years. Not to mention

Lost panel bar

2009-04-13 Thread rodolfoap
Friends, I was working normlly on my laptop until yesterday with gnome (no updates, as I remember, but all weekend I used suspend by closing the laptop screen many times). Now I turn on the computer, and the gnome desktop does not show my panel bar (where all the applets and menu-launcher are).

Re: Wifi won't reconnect on resume

2009-04-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 19:14 +, Beartooth wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:11:02 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: My Asus 1000HE netbook with F10 seems to work well, including suspend and resume, but the Wifi will *sometimes* (results seem to vary) refuse reconnect after the latter. No

Re: (no subject)

2009-04-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 16:25 -0400, m wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 02:02:02AM +0930, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 11:31 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: All-caps are harder to read than mixed caps and should be used sparingly. This has been well-known to the printing profession for

Strange F10/Ffx trouble

2009-04-13 Thread Beartooth
I'm running Firefox 3.0.8 under Fedora 10. Suddenly, when I try to type into it anywhere, such as for instance to post to a web forum, nothing shows up -- till I get the cursor out of the box I'm typing into. Then it does. What could be wrong?? -- Beartooth Implacable,

Re: Lost panel bar

2009-04-13 Thread Steven F. LeBrun
rodolfoap wrote: Friends, I was working normlly on my laptop until yesterday with gnome (no updates, as I remember, but all weekend I used suspend by closing the laptop screen many times). Now I turn on the computer, and the gnome desktop does not show my panel bar (where all the applets and

Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-13 Thread Hugh Caley
Sometime after opening Firefox 3 in Fedora 10 it will start grabbing 90% of the CPU until it is closed again. I am running FlashBlock but that only seems to delay the time somewhat until the cpu goes to 90%. Is there nothing else that can be done about this? If Adobe won't fix the problem,

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:51:58 -0700 Hugh Caley wrote: Sometime after opening Firefox 3 in Fedora 10 it will start grabbing 90% of the CPU until it is closed again. I am running FlashBlock but that only seems to delay the time somewhat until the cpu goes to 90%. Is there nothing else that

Re: Software request

2009-04-13 Thread Beartooth
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:03:47 +0930, Tim wrote: [] so how do I get to vimtutor? Launch it from the CLI? Go into a terminal, type vi and hit TAB... OK. I got a little bit of somewhat cryptic info about vi, and page after page about the GPL or the children in Uganda. Then it

Re: (no subject)

2009-04-13 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/13 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 16:25 -0400, m wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 02:02:02AM +0930, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 11:31 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: All-caps are harder to read than mixed caps and should be used sparingly.

Re: useradd and the default group

2009-04-13 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 16:28 +, Carl D. Roth wrote: Can some one explain the following weird behavior with useradd? # useradd -g mock -r -m -d /var/lib/mockuser mockuser -- create a new 'mockuser' user that can be used to run /usr/bin/mock # id mockuser uid=494(mockuser)

Re: (no subject)

2009-04-13 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 16:25 -0400, m wrote: If thats the case just say its harder to read and be done, don't pretend its like screaming and then scream back breaking your own sacred rule. You seem to be having quite a tantrum over this, I don't see why. A point was made about it's considered

Re: (no subject)

2009-04-13 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 11:31 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 23:40 -0400, m wrote: PERHAPS HE HAS POOR EYESIGHT!!! All-caps are harder to read than mixed caps and should be used sparingly. This has been well-known to the printing profession for several hundred years.

Re: Software request

2009-04-13 Thread Bob Goodwin
Beartooth wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:03:47 +0930, Tim wrote: [] so how do I get to vimtutor? Launch it from the CLI? Go into a terminal, type vi and hit TAB... OK. I got a little bit of somewhat cryptic info about vi, and page after page about the GPL or the

Re: Software request

2009-04-13 Thread Tim
Tim: Go into a terminal, type vi and hit TAB... Beartooth: OK. I got a little bit of somewhat cryptic info about vi, Yes. ;-) Though I think you might be misunderstanding tutoring. Tutoring is teaching, generally by doing at the same time. Tutoring isn't an instruction book, in the

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-13 Thread Néstor
I had the problem with FF taken too much of my resources, so I do not use it as often. I use Chrome more often. FF has more tools available. :-) On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:51:58 -0700 Hugh Caley wrote: Sometime after

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-13 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 14:56 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:51:58 -0700 Hugh Caley wrote: Sometime after opening Firefox 3 in Fedora 10 it will start grabbing 90% of the CPU until it is closed again. I am running FlashBlock but that only seems to delay the time somewhat

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:43:37 -0700 Craig White wrote: fwiw - I have found the AdobeReader plugin to Firefox far more hostile than the Flash plugin and the latest versions on i386 seem to be a bit better behaved. In the past, I have removed the plugin from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins (nppdf.so)

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-13 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 16:55 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:43:37 -0700 Craig White wrote: fwiw - I have found the AdobeReader plugin to Firefox far more hostile than the Flash plugin and the latest versions on i386 seem to be a bit better behaved. In the past, I have

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-13 Thread Hugh Caley
Frank Cox wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:51:58 -0700 Hugh Caley wrote: Sometime after opening Firefox 3 in Fedora 10 it will start grabbing 90% of the CPU until it is closed again. I am running FlashBlock but that only seems to delay the time somewhat until the cpu goes to 90%. Is there

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:17:02 -0700 Craig White wrote: I rarely go to dead tree format these days so no. If the test were with the exact same document and uninstall AR9 and re-install AR8 and verifiable, it would be interesting but too many other variables often sneak in otherwise. That's

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:26:39 -0700 Hugh Caley wrote: Problem: After running Firefox for a time (a few minutes to 30 minutes) it will start taking 80%+ of CPU (as shown in top) and will keep taking it until I restart the browser. This machine is running Fedora 10 32-bit. Firefox

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-13 Thread suvayu ali
2009/4/13 Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net: On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:17:02 -0700 Craig White wrote: I rarely go to dead tree format these days so no. If the test were with the exact same document and uninstall AR9 and re-install AR8 and verifiable, it would be interesting but too many other

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:51:19 -0700 suvayu ali wrote: You can setup FF to open the pdf outside of FF. Does it slow down when you do that? Yes. In fact, that's how we run acroread on that machine -- just a standalone app with no connection to firefox at all. How about Evince, does it lack

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-13 Thread Hugh Caley
Frank Cox wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:26:39 -0700 Hugh Caley wrote: Problem: After running Firefox for a time (a few minutes to 30 minutes) it will start taking 80%+ of CPU (as shown in top) and will keep taking it until I restart the browser. This machine is running Fedora 10 32-bit.

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:15:26 -0700 Hugh Caley wrote: I'll try noscript, but I'd REALLY like Fedora/RedHat/Mozilla people to work on the problem. If you look at the adobe site there are quite a few logged bugs about this sort of thing, and no resolutions. I would suspect Linux is a lower

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-13 Thread Andras Simon
On 4/14/09, suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: You can setup FF to open the pdf outside of FF. Does it slow down when you do that? How about Evince, does it lack any features that Adobe Reader has? I use Evince exclusively both in my Fedora 10 home desktop and Xubuntu 8.04 work

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-13 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 16:26 -0700, Hugh Caley wrote: I do definitely get the problem on sites such as youtube; however, I also get the problem on sites that don't have any obvious flash content, and frankly, I'm not sure which ones at this point. Flashblock doesn't seem to catch all of

Re: (no subject)

2009-04-13 Thread Ed Greshko
m wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 02:02:02AM +0930, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 11:31 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: All-caps are harder to read than mixed caps and should be used sparingly. This has been well-known to the printing profession for several hundred years.

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