With the release of Fedora 11 now past us, it's come time to remind
folks that per the release policy, maintenance for the N-2 Fedora
release ends one month after the Fedora N comes out.
In this case, since Fedora 11 just came out, that means that the end
of life for Fedora 9 will be 2009-07-10.
Hi,
I am pleased to announce the community remix of Fedora 11 with LXDE as
the default desktop environment. It is available for download at
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/remixes/LXDE/lxde-fedora-remix-11-i686-live.iso
Release Notes:
---
It is a Live CD with LXDE as
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:34:37 -0700, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com
wrote:
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 17:54 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
If Fedora Unity's motivation to continue a service to the community -at
it's own expense, not yours- is holding you and the other teams hostage,
call
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:20:09 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen
kana...@kanarip.com
wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 08:37:41 -0700, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com
wrote:
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 03:30 -0500, King InuYasha wrote:
A script that takes the DVD image to produce the CD versions would
basically
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:37:14 +0900, Mamoru Tasaka
mtas...@ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp wrote:
Michael Schwendt wrote, at 06/15/2009 03:52 AM +9:00:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/472621
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/472622
Reported in Nov 2008.
Is it really that difficult to fix it?
No, but I have
On 15/06/09 08:15, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
I'm providing severl friends and relatives with CD install images via
these genned iso's. So at least 5 more CD sets would have been fetched
if I didn't do this.
What was the underlying reason for the CDS' over DVD\LiveCD?
Frank
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On 15/06/09 01:24, Guido Grazioli wrote:
That said, I agree the wheel group should be enabled with sudo, though
I disagree that the initial install user should be automatically added
to it.
But then again, I hate sudo :P I do most scripting that requires root
access via
Thanks Lennart, I really wish Skype would update their crap
Did you contact them?
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Charles Butterfield, Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:19:17 -0400:
Okay, so I mostly love Fedora. However, here are 4 things that got by
blood really, really boiling, so I thought I'd share my emotions. They
are mostly policy issues, where I think you have gotten it very very
wrong.
DON'T FEED THE
Did you contact them?
I just submitted a Skype support request, asking they provide better support
for PA, the current standard audio manager on fedora Linux.
However, I am also unhappy that the fedora desktop is unusable if one
chooses to remove PA. Not only did I loose the bluetooth applet
2009/6/14 Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu:
Yaakov Nemoy wrote:
Hey All,
As the subject says, i'm looking to figure out where is the
accountable place for filing bug reports. For anyone who can apply a
quick fix, the repo is missing repo closure, and i can't install the
latest KDE beta
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Ahmed Kamal
email.ahmedka...@googlemail.com wrote:
Did you contact them?
I just submitted a Skype support request, asking they provide better
support for PA, the current standard audio manager on fedora Linux.
However, I am also unhappy that the fedora
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:34:52 +0100
Matthew Garrett m...@redhat.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 06:13:51PM +0200, Julian Aloofi wrote:
So, solving this is pretty easy, even for newbies. But I agree that
the error message will not help someone without advanced knowledge.
Jeremy Katz pisze:
On Saturday, June 13 2009, Jussi Lehtola said:
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 11:12 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 07:04:12PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote:
Hmm, I'd want netboot.img back, since I normally use a USB stick to
start the network install (OK, there is
Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Sun, 14.06.09 18:34, Matthew Garrett (m...@redhat.com) wrote:
So, solving this is pretty easy, even for newbies. But I agree that the
error message will not help someone without advanced knowledge. Although
I think people running Samba generally will know where to
Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 06:13:51PM +0200, Julian Aloofi wrote:
So, solving this is pretty easy, even for newbies. But I agree that the
error message will not help someone without advanced knowledge. Although
I think people running Samba generally will know where to look
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 10:35 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 22:19 -0400, Charles Butterfield wrote:
* Samba (outbound) browsing requires firewall mods
I don't know how Samba works, so forgive me if I say obvious stupidity,
but shouldn't *client* work even behind
Hi,
Prior to the big push to f12, my system had full audio. No problems.
Lovely, lovely sounds.
For some reason, alsa and pulseaudio are completely failing to pick up
my sound card (either the onboard one or my soundblaster). This is
despite them both being listed on lspci and lsmod.
Any ideas
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 11:21:11PM +0100, mike cloaked wrote:
I checked the contents of the bind-chroot package in both F10 and f11
- as I was puzzled about running bind-chroot since things seemed
rather different to previous behaviour.
In F11 the contents contain
/var/named/chroot and
Not to nag, but it's been going on 2 weeks since the last push. I
assume this is GA-related, which is fine, just curious. I saw some
Bodhi mail for my updates which made me think one was impending, but
haven't seen anything yet. Hoping the next push will resolve the
dependency issues around
Hi,
maybe I missed some announcement somewhere, but there haven't been any
updates in F10/F11 updates since more than 10 days. Am I looking at
the wrong mirrors (including mine), or is there just a small hiatus
for fixing some issues?
Thanks!
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We need to backport
commit 4271e23942bdc60e1fa6c0b26bc666a94a8b3e1d
Author: Karel Zak k...@redhat.com
Date: Mon Apr 27 15:00:57 2009 +0200
blkid: use /dev/mapper/name rather than /dev/dm-N
upstream patch to Fedora.
Karel
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009
On Mon, 15.06.09 12:41, Thomas Woerner (twoer...@redhat.com) wrote:
So, what should happen here? Should we leave the firewall enabled in
these cases* by default and require admins to open them? If so, is
there any way that we can make this easier in some
Packagekit-oriented manner? If
Hi,
I've just build ImageMagick 6.5.3.7 for rawhide. This version
introduces *silent* ABI breakage, as the ABI has changed without
changing the soname (woohoo way to go upstream!)
So I strongly urge anyone who maintains a package which uses the
ImageMagick libraries to rebuild it.
Regards,
On Sunday, June 14 2009, Chris Adams said:
Once upon a time, Jeremy Katz ka...@redhat.com said:
See the livecd-iso-to-pxeboot script, although it does place some
(somewhat) different requirements on things.
AFAIK livecd-iso-to-pxeboot is useless for 32 bit, at least for the
standard
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 07:34:00AM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
Not to nag, but it's been going on 2 weeks since the last push. I
*Sigh*
assume this is GA-related, which is fine, just curious. I saw some
Bodhi mail for my updates which made me think one was impending, but
haven't seen
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 15:36:20 +0300,
Axel Thimm axel.th...@atrpms.net wrote:
Hi,
maybe I missed some announcement somewhere, but there haven't been any
updates in F10/F11 updates since more than 10 days. Am I looking at
the wrong mirrors (including mine), or is there just a small hiatus
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 03:36:20PM +0300, Axel Thimm wrote:
Hi,
maybe I missed some announcement somewhere, but there haven't been any
updates in F10/F11 updates since more than 10 days. Am I looking at
the wrong mirrors (including mine), or is there just a small hiatus
for fixing some issues?
Josh Boyer wrote:
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 07:34:00AM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
Not to nag, but it's been going on 2 weeks since the last push. I
*Sigh*
assume this is GA-related, which is fine, just curious. I saw some
Bodhi mail for my updates which made me think one was
Hi!
On 12.06.2009 03:47, John Poelstra wrote:
Have you ever wanted to give your perspective on how well the Fedora
development and release process works, but weren't sure where to do it?
Now you have the perfect opportunity!
Nice intro, but...
For Fedora 11 we are having a
project
Hi everyone!
The Noarch Sub Package Feature continues in F12. I just updated the package
lists and statistics on the Feature page[1]. I want to thank all the brave
package maintainers that converted some of their sub packages in the short
time frame before the F11 freeze and so gave us a test
Hi.
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:09:27 +0100, Paul wrote:
Any ideas on getting this to work again?
On my system all sound files (/dev/snd) were owned by root instead of the
user logged into X. Don't know who's responsible for fixing that.
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On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Florian Festiffe...@redhat.com wrote:
The Noarch Sub Package Feature continues in F12. I just updated the package
lists and statistics on the Feature page[1]. I want to thank all the brave
package maintainers that converted some of their sub packages in the
Seth Vidal wrote:
Other people's noarch subpackages? Shouldn't they have obsoletes in
place, too?
I know it's hard to grok but for all intents and purposes a arch change
is A LOT like a package rename.
I like to disagree. I really see no reason why an obsolete should be needed
here. Sure
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Florian Festi wrote:
Seth Vidal wrote:
Other people's noarch subpackages? Shouldn't they have obsoletes in place,
too?
I know it's hard to grok but for all intents and purposes a arch change is
A LOT like a package rename.
I like to disagree. I really see no reason
Am 15.06.2009 16:19, schrieb Florian Festi:
Please check your packages[2] whether they can make use of this
feature and add your changed packages to the list[3].
I have reread the list of the candidates for noarch sub packages on your
list.
I wan't to notifiy, that the creation of the
Compose started at Mon Jun 15 06:15:04 UTC 2009
New package lazygal
A static web gallery generator
New package lcdf-typetools
Tools for manipulating OpenType fonts
New package perl-HTML-FillInForm
Populates HTML Forms with data
New package perl-Pod-Xhtml
Generate
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 07:34:00AM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
Not to nag, but it's been going on 2 weeks since the last push. I
*Sigh*
As a side note, is this impacting override tagging, as well? (I'm not sure
if the two
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 04:28 -0400, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
That's what they wanted to use :-)
Sorry, I'm not seeing that as a valid use case.
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On 06/15/2009 07:19 AM, Florian Festi wrote:
There is one more thing left: Noarch sub packages should - most likely -
be reflected in the Packaging and the Package Review Guidelines. I - as
a RPM developer - really don't have a opinion how the Fedora Guidelines
should look like and I also
G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
That's what they wanted to use :-) besides it was quicker to gen
them than to download the live CDs or DVDs.
CDs will be much slower than a DVD in terms of read speed. You'll also
have to swap disks out during install (hello 1998). Why do they want
to use CDs?
In
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 12:18 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote:
boot.iso/netinst.iso
What's the difference between these two by the way?
There isn't one. However old virt-manager tools look for a boot.iso
instead of a netinst.iso, so when we tried to rename this iso to match
reality (it has
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 08:04 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
Fedora Project decides to not ship
split media anymore, will do it, regardless of how valuable you or anyone
else outside Fedora Unity thinks it is.
And this is what pisses me off, and why I say you're holding us hostage.
Whether or
Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) said:
It's not just that ens1371 is shown as unrealistically popular,
es1371 is what either QEMU or VMWare emulates.
Bill
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In F-11 the samba4 package provides subpackages for libtalloc and
libtdb.
In rawhide we have split these packages out on their own as these 2
packages are finally released independently also upstream.
I'd like to split these out of the samba4 meta package in F-11 as well
so that we can upgrade
Jeff Spaleta wrote:
I wonder, Would there be a reliable way to separate out emulated
hardware inside the smolt database reliably so we can get a better
statistical survey of in-service physical hardware devices?
QEMU inserts its name into the CPU string does it not? It could be
sorted that
On Sunday 14 June 2009, Richard Fearn wrote:
We have the wheel group which would fit the bill.
Yeah, I always uncomment the %wheel line in sudoers and then add
myself to that group.
Ditto.
See also https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462161
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On 06/15/2009 12:24 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
In fact, why are you wasting a DVD or CDs? That's not very green of you.
Give them a USB stick with the DVD install ISO loaded on it so it can be
reused for more useful things.
On a machine with only a CD drive, it's not unreasonable to assume
Hey folks -
Just a reminder that the end of life date for F9 was set at 2009-07-10
at last week's FESCo meeting. This means that as of this date, no new
builds will be allowed in koji, and no updates will be pushed. Due to
the July 4 holiday in the US, however, we recommend getting any last
F9
Way back when in February [1], FESCo decided that for Fedora 11, i586 would
be the default architecture, and for Fedora 12, it would be some variant of
i686. It's time to follow through on that action item.
I've submitted https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F12X86Support. It
defines the
Bill Nottingham wrote:
Way back when in February [1], FESCo decided that for Fedora 11, i586 would
be the default architecture, and for Fedora 12, it would be some variant of
i686. It's time to follow through on that action item.
I've submitted
Jon Ciesla (l...@jcomserv.net) said:
PLEASE do not do this.
If we stop supporting Pentium II and Pentium III, I have to buy a whole
lot of new hardware. Dead serious.
Could we do i686 as a secondary arch, and swap with i386 further in the
future?
While I understand you may have a
On 15/06/09 19:02, Ingvar Hagelund wrote:
As one of many, I'm the semi-happy owner of an Apple iPhone. The iPhone and the
iPod Touch's media player db is well supported under Linux, using tools like
libgpod, and iFuse or sshfs for access. Until recently, one could use amarok as
a front end to
Bill Nottingham wrote:
Jon Ciesla (l...@jcomserv.net) said:
PLEASE do not do this.
If we stop supporting Pentium II and Pentium III, I have to buy a whole
lot of new hardware. Dead serious.
Could we do i686 as a secondary arch, and swap with i386 further in the
future?
While
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Bill Nottinghamnott...@redhat.com wrote:
While I understand you may have a lot of older hardware, the point of a
*seconday* architecture is that it's not the primary architecture target.
Even if we didn't split off older CPUs, we're still primarily targeting
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 01:53:13PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Way back when in February [1], FESCo decided that for Fedora 11, i586 would
be the default architecture, and for Fedora 12, it would be some variant of
i686. It's time to follow through on that action item.
I've submitted
* Ingvar Hagelund
While waiting for amarok-2.x to support scripting or fuse mounts, I
could use some advice on getting 1.4 to work. All the parts seems to
be present, I just can't get them to play together.
* Frank Murphy
also check out http://www.rockbox.org/
Rockbox is a cool project,
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 09:57:56PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Mike McGrath wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Mon, 15.06.09 09:15, James Morris (jmor...@namei.org) wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.comwrote:
A seconday arch could be done for these older CPUs, if someone is
interested
enough.
Another option would be to retain the current i586 support, and add the
i686+SSE2 as a new primary arch, with an eye towards
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Chris Weyl wrote:
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
A seconday arch could be done for these older CPUs, if someone is
interested
enough.
Another option would be to retain the current i586 support, and add the
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Jon Ciesla wrote:
:)
-sv
Hey, I never suggested that I'm opposed to upgrading all my hardware. Who's
buying? ;)
I'd like to introduce you to EBAY :)
-sv
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Once upon a time, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com said:
What CPUs do we lose that F11 supports?
- Intel Pentium Pro
- Intel Pentium II
- Intel Pentium III
- 32-bit AMD Athlon
Really? So Fedora i686 won't really be i686? That sucks, and is
confusing. I still have a number of boxes in
Bill Nottingham wrote:
- Faster and more consistent FP math by using SSE2 registers
- Allows for autovectorization by GCC where necessary
- More clearly delineates our support set of targets, sticking true
to forwards innovation, not necessarily legacy support
Why not leave it be and
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Mon, 15.06.09 14:47, Dave Jones (da...@redhat.com) wrote:
As already mentioned, smolt never heard of HDA. Either I am blind or
there is no trace at all of HDA devices in this web UI.
Maybe I'm
On 06/15/2009 03:04 PM, Robert Marcano wrote:
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Casey Dahlincdah...@redhat.com wrote:
The problem that does arise is: just because apache is installed doesn't
mean its running. Really, init scripts should open the firewall ports they
need when their service
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/15/2009 07:19 AM, Florian Festi wrote:
I've been thinking about proposing a Guideline that says
header files should not be placed in noarch packages. Header files can
contain architecture specific bits. We
Casey Dahlin wrote:
Really, init scripts should open the firewall ports they need when
their service comes up (and I'll propose something for upstart 1.0
later today to make that make more sense.)
How is that supposed to work when I only want to allow connections to a
service on a whitelist
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Rex Dieter wrote:
Seth Vidal wrote:
It's not about the upgrade process. It is only about compare_providers.
You have 3 pkgs providing 'foo'
foo-1.1.noarch
foo-1.0.x86_64
foo-1.0.i386
Which one do you pick on x86_64 or i686?
We weight extra toward pkgs in the same
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:45:08AM -0700, Chris Weyl wrote:
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.comwrote:
A seconday arch could be done for these older CPUs, if someone is
interested
enough.
Another option would be to retain the current i586 support, and add the
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Seth Vidal wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Rex Dieter wrote:
Seth Vidal wrote:
It's not about the upgrade process. It is only about
compare_providers.
You have 3 pkgs providing 'foo'
foo-1.1.noarch
foo-1.0.x86_64
foo-1.0.i386
Which one
Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com writes:
What CPUs do we lose that F11 supports?
- Intel i586 (all)
- Intel Pentium Pro
- Intel Pentium II
- Intel Pentium III
- 32-bit AMD Athlon
- AMD Geode
- VIA C3
- Transmeta Crusoe
Oh I didn't know my old `2001 PIII 128 MB laptop is that old.
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Ben Boeckel wrote:
A special exemption for noarch in arch compares and version
differences? If it's between some arch and noarch, defer to the
version checker.
Yes, as I explained on irc, it's doable - but where it gets implemented
(and what else it breaks) is not as
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Mon, 15.06.09 14:47, Dave Jones (da...@redhat.com) wrote:
Are you speaking of the same smolt that lists es1371 as most popular
sound card? i.e. a sound card that has been out of production since
about 10 years now? Somehow I
On 06/14/2009 09:13 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 14:23 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Simo Sorcesso...@redhat.com wrote:
I haven't done a graphical root login in the past 10 years probably and
on multiple distribution. Graphical root login is
Krzysztof Halasa wrote:
Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com writes:
What CPUs do we lose that F11 supports?
- Intel i586 (all)
- Intel Pentium Pro
- Intel Pentium II
- Intel Pentium III
- 32-bit AMD Athlon
- AMD Geode
- VIA C3
- Transmeta Crusoe
Oh I didn't know my old `2001 PIII
Matthew Woehlke wrote:
Configuration is fine, just as long as there /is/ configuration and not
running a service always exposes it to the world with no way to prevent
that. (Prevention by editing init-scripts doesn't count ;-).)
That's terrible. Unfortunately, I noticed after hitting 'send'
yum remove pulseaudio
Not quite sure this is the right approach (because -- as you've already
noticed -- some things unexpectedly depend on PA). What about `yum erase
alsa-plugins-pulseaudio` instead?
Thanks for the suggestion, however, I have gone a different route since
Gnome desktop
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Casey Dahlincdah...@redhat.com wrote:
The ability for nautilus to prompt for credentials when the user tries to do
something outside his permission level has been missing for far too long. Its
annoying to implement, but I'll owe a beer to whoever finally does
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 20:01 +0100, Jeremy Sanders wrote:
Bill Nottingham wrote:
- Faster and more consistent FP math by using SSE2 registers
- Allows for autovectorization by GCC where necessary
- More clearly delineates our support set of targets, sticking true
to forwards
Jon Ciesla wrote:
Also, I was wondering, myself aside, are the newer processors as
prevalent all geographic locations?
Forget geographic locations, I would be more worried about economic
status. I worry that we're shutting out not only poorer /countries/, but
poorer /people/ everywhere, e.g.
On 06/15/2009 03:01 PM, Jeremy Sanders wrote:
Why not leave it be and suggest people move to the less brain dead x86-64
instead? Innovation and legacy support.
The slower x86 is, the more motivation there is to move to x86-64.
Jeremy
The 98% of the world that doesn't deal with assembly
Seth Vidal wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Jon Ciesla wrote:
BTW are those new VIA netbooks SSE2-capable?
Additionally, what will this do to RHEL? I can't imagine RHEL
customers being too happy about this for RHEL7(?), and if i386 would
still be in RHEL, it would worry me that it would only
On 06/15/2009 04:22 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Casey Dahlincdah...@redhat.com wrote:
The ability for nautilus to prompt for credentials when the user tries to do
something outside his permission level has been missing for far too long.
Its annoying to
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 21:49 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 05:43 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
and no, glxgears is not a benchmark!
Indeed, glxgears really sucks as as a benchmark, Phoronix's benchmark suite
(as imperfect as it is) is definitely more useful.
I
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Jon Ciesla wrote:
Seth Vidal wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Jon Ciesla wrote:
BTW are those new VIA netbooks SSE2-capable?
Additionally, what will this do to RHEL? I can't imagine RHEL customers
being too happy about this for RHEL7(?), and if i386 would still be in
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 03:31:17PM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
Seth Vidal wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Jon Ciesla wrote:
BTW are those new VIA netbooks SSE2-capable?
Additionally, what will this do to RHEL? I can't imagine RHEL
customers being too happy about this for RHEL7(?), and if
Jon Ciesla wrote:
Additionally, what will this do to RHEL? I can't imagine RHEL customers
being too happy about this for RHEL7(?), and if i386 would still be in
RHEL, it would worry me that it would only be a secondary arch in
Fedora. . .
Can the myth of RH controls Fedora's direction
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
ppc/ppc64 is supported in RHEL. It is no longer a primary arch in Fedora.
josh
Really? I obviously missed something.
/me will look at FESCo logs.
Orcan
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* Rex Dieter
amarok2 supports qtscript (which is why it currently has a dependency on
qtscriptbindings)
So, it should be possible to access a mounted iPod db in amarok-2.x
using qtscript?
Ingvar
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On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 01:53:13PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
- AMD Geode
I'm a little worried about this one. Although AMD stopped making the
processors at the end of 2008, they were sort of popular for certain
super-cheap, small (for want of a better description) Mac Mini
clones that have
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:01:09PM +0100, Jeremy Sanders wrote:
Bill Nottingham wrote:
- Faster and more consistent FP math by using SSE2 registers
- Allows for autovectorization by GCC where necessary
- More clearly delineates our support set of targets, sticking true
to forwards
Frank Murphy (frankl...@gmail.com) said:
Hope I'm not sidetracking.
Was there also talk of all 64bit cpu's
getting a 64bit kernel?
Even if install was 32bit?
Given the work that's required to do that, it should be tracked separately.
Bill
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On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Bill Nottinghamnott...@redhat.com wrote:
[snip]
- Faster and more consistent FP math by using SSE2 registers
I doubt having consistently lower FP precision is anything many users
are asking for. The few that do can usually take care of themselves.
- Allows for
As a side note, is this impacting override tagging, as well? (I'm not sure
if the two functions are related.)
They're unrelated.
Is there a different problem with the override tagging then?
Peter
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On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 2:34 AM, Lennart Poetteringmzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
On Sun, 14.06.09 16:11, Jeff Spaleta (jspal...@gmail.com) wrote:
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Lennart Poetteringmzerq...@0pointer.de
wrote:
Are you speaking of the same smolt that lists es1371 as most
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:22:12PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 03:31:17PM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
I'm not sure I understand why not. Are you saying that if RedHat
decided that RHEL7 was to support Sparc , there'd be no interest in
making that a primary
Jon Ciesla (l...@jcomserv.net) said:
Additionally, what will this do to RHEL? I can't imagine RHEL customers
being too happy about this for RHEL7(?), and if i386 would still be in
RHEL, it would worry me that it would only be a secondary arch in
Fedora. . .
Not that it matters for
Krzysztof Halasa (k...@pm.waw.pl) said:
Oh I didn't know my old `2001 PIII 128 MB laptop is that old.
Works fine with F11 BTW.
It's old enough that the processor ceased production before Fedora
even existed.
Bill
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On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Casey Dahlincdah...@redhat.com wrote:
Maybe we should just make the command line more friendly so users don't mind
reaching for it. I vote we add clippy.
yum install hotwire ;)
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On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Bill Nottinghamnott...@redhat.com wrote:
Not that it matters for Fedora, but I doubt many people are paying
$whatever_the_price_of_RHEL_is to run on a 6, 7, 10-year old machine. And
RHEL 5 only supports (base) i686 or greater already.
You know, I haven't seen
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