Re: an update to automake-1.11?

2009-07-02 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Jim, On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 23:49 +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 12:50 +0200, Ondřej Vašík wrote: Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 09:02 +0200, Ondřej Vašík wrote: Owen Taylor wrote: I was rather surprised to see:

Re: an update to automake-1.11?

2009-07-02 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 00:38 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Run make V=1 if you want the verbose output you're used to. This will be REQUIRED in Fedora for packages using this feature Yes, it's a good idea for packages to do this, as it makes the koji logs much more useful. We do this for qemu

Re: an update to automake-1.11?

2009-07-02 Thread Jim Meyering
Mark McLoughlin wrote: ... The issue here is weighing up the benefit of a 1.11 update to developers using F-9 and F-10 versus the risk of breaking existing working builds. It sounds automake has improved its level of compatibility between releases, so the risk is relatively low. Even still,

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-07-02 Thread Glen Turner
On 30/06/09 01:39, Bill Nottingham wrote: That's a really crappy place for that message, though. What's the user supposed to do there... reboot and then go download another 700MB - 4GB? Yes it's a crappy place. I knew that when I suggested it. I just couldn't think of a Javascript hack which

ppc64 assistance

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, I've having some issues with a PPC64 build and was wondering if someone a bit more ppc savy could have a poke. It builds fine on x86 and ppc32. git head also has the same issue as the current stable release so unfortunately that doesn't help much. PPC64 build

Re: ppc64 assistance

2009-07-02 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Peter Robinsonpbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I've having some issues with a PPC64 build and was wondering if someone a bit more ppc savy could have a poke. A backtrace would be really useful here (remember to build with -ggdb -O0 for extra usefulness).

Re: ppc64 assistance

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Colin Walterswalt...@verbum.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Peter Robinsonpbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I've having some issues with a PPC64 build and was wondering if someone a bit more ppc savy could have a poke. A backtrace would be

[ANNOUNCEMENT] dracut-0.3

2009-07-02 Thread Harald Hoyer
Here it is, dracut-0.3! Featuring booting from all kind of block devices, NFS, iSCSI and NBD. Dracut is a new initramfs infrastructure. It should replace nash/mkinitrd. Dracut is a feauture for Fedora 12 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Dracut How to get started, if you want to test. #

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] dracut-0.3

2009-07-02 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi Harald, On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 12:59 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: Here it is, dracut-0.3! Thanks for your efforts, this is excellent. We've started using it for OLPC's F11 spin, including our own modules to implement OLPC features. So much nicer than what we had before! However, the spec file

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] dracut-0.3

2009-07-02 Thread Harald Hoyer
On 07/02/2009 01:09 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: Hi Harald, On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 12:59 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: Here it is, dracut-0.3! Thanks for your efforts, this is excellent. We've started using it for OLPC's F11 spin, including our own modules to implement OLPC features. So much nicer

Re: an update to automake-1.11?

2009-07-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Jim Meyering wrote: I try to accommodate progressiveness, when the benefit appears to outweigh the risk. ACK. The risk of an automake-1.10-automake-1.11 upgrade on Fedora is close to zero and outweigh the effects of bug fixes having gone into automake-1.11. So far, I know of no

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] dracut-0.3

2009-07-02 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 13:14 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: The idea is to pregenerate a generic initrd and package it in an rpm and deliver it together with the kernel. There should be no need to generate the initrd on an X0-1 itsself. Is it going to work like this in standard Fedora too? Or

rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Rawhide Report
- 1.1.1-16 - Update tuning files to 20090702. - Drop no longer needed workaround for #483644. dvdauthor-0.6.14-9.fc12 --- * Tue Jun 30 2009 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org - 0.6.14-9 - rebuild (GraphicsMagick) eclipse-gef-3.5.0-1.fc12 * Wed Jul 01

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] dracut-0.3

2009-07-02 Thread Harald Hoyer
On 07/02/2009 01:25 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 13:14 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: The idea is to pregenerate a generic initrd and package it in an rpm and deliver it together with the kernel. There should be no need to generate the initrd on an X0-1 itsself. Is it going to

Re: Raising the bar

2009-07-02 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:45:19AM +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: Matthias Clasen wrote: we'd like to announce the 'Fit and Finish' initiative for Fedora, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fit_and_Finish with the goal to improve the user experience of the Fedora desktop. We want to

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Rawhide Reportrawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Compose started at Thu Jul  2 06:15:05 UTC 2009 ... New package ldd-pdf        Linux Device Drivers, Third Edition Book in PDF format We ship books as packages? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: Raising the bar

2009-07-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Matthias Clasenmcla...@redhat.com wrote: To achieve this, we will hold regular test days, each of which will focus on use cases in a certain area. A few ideas for test day topics Overall, an excellent idea and plan. We had some very good results with an OLPC

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2009 06:03 PM, drago01 wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Rawhide Reportrawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Compose started at Thu Jul 2 06:15:05 UTC 2009 ... New package ldd-pdf Linux Device Drivers, Third Edition Book in PDF format We ship books as packages? Yes and

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On 02/07/09 13:41, Rahul Sundaram wrote: snip We ship books as packages? Yes and this is not even the first time. Dive Into Python has been in the repo for ages already. Rahul Is there a book group? or what search parameter? Tried yum info Dive Into Python Error: No matching

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2009 06:15 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: Is there a book group? or what search parameter? Tried yum info Dive Into Python # yum info diveintopython Since we have more than one book, I guess a new group could be defined as well. If there is consensus on the name, I can add it. Should we

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On 02/07/09 13:47, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/02/2009 06:15 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: Is there a book group? or what search parameter? Tried yum info Dive Into Python # yum info diveintopython Since we have more than one book, I guess a new group could be defined as well. If there is

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Pierre-Yves
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 13:45 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: On 02/07/09 13:41, Rahul Sundaram wrote: snip We ship books as packages? Yes and this is not even the first time. Dive Into Python has been in the repo for ages already. Rahul Is there a book group? or what search

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/7/2 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 07/02/2009 06:15 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: Is there a book group? or what search parameter? Tried yum info Dive Into Python # yum info diveintopython Since we have more than one book, I guess a new group could be defined as well. If

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] dracut-0.3

2009-07-02 Thread Harald Hoyer
On 07/02/2009 12:59 PM, Harald Hoyer wrote: Here it is, dracut-0.3! Featuring booting from all kind of block devices, NFS, iSCSI and NBD. Dracut is a new initramfs infrastructure. It should replace nash/mkinitrd. Dracut is a feauture for Fedora 12 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Dracut

Re: certificate not (yet) active?

2009-07-02 Thread Christoph Höger
Am Donnerstag, den 02.07.2009, 14:02 +0200 schrieb Till Maas: On Thu July 2 2009, Christoph Höger wrote: I had to create a new .fedora.cert this morning, because make new-sources told me mine was out of date. So I did but now make build runs into Error: [('SSL routines',

Re: Raising the bar

2009-07-02 Thread Andrew Haley
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:45:19AM +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: In Ubuntu there's a Help button on the top menu bar that leads to a nice help application, yelp. We have that app too, but it doesn't seem to have the same contents, which are: New to Ubuntu? Adding and

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] dracut-0.3

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi Harald, On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 12:59 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: Here it is, dracut-0.3! Thanks for your efforts, this is excellent. We've started using it for OLPC's F11 spin, including our own modules to implement OLPC features. So much nicer than what we had before! However, the

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Adam Miller
+1 on the Books idea but I feel obligated to do something along the lines of: Insert snide remark about code vs. content here But I shall refrain. -Adam -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com - () ascii ribbon campaign - against html

Re: ppc64 assistance

2009-07-02 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Peter Robinsonpbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Interestingly with -ggdb it builds fine with out without -O0. That makes it a lot more likely to be a compiler flaw (though not guaranteed). Does 'make check' pass in the source tree you built with -O0? A backtrace

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 02:52:59PM +0200, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/7/2 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 07/02/2009 06:15 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: Is there a book group? or what search parameter? Tried yum info Dive Into Python # yum info diveintopython Since we

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] dracut-0.3

2009-07-02 Thread Harald Hoyer
On 07/02/2009 03:07 PM, Harald Hoyer wrote: On 07/02/2009 12:59 PM, Harald Hoyer wrote: Here it is, dracut-0.3! Featuring booting from all kind of block devices, NFS, iSCSI and NBD. Dracut is a new initramfs infrastructure. It should replace nash/mkinitrd. Dracut is a feauture for Fedora 12

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] dracut-0.3

2009-07-02 Thread Harald Hoyer
On 07/02/2009 03:26 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi Harald, On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 12:59 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: Here it is, dracut-0.3! Thanks for your efforts, this is excellent. We've started using it for OLPC's F11 spin, including our own modules to implement OLPC features. So much nicer

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2009 06:58 PM, Adam Miller wrote: +1 on the Books idea Does this look ok? --- comps-f12.xml.in.orig 2009-07-02 15:39:02.0 +0530 +++ comps-f12.xml.in2009-07-02 19:49:32.108616562 +0530 @@ -520,6 +520,17 @@ /packagelist /group group +idbooks/id +

Re: ppc64 assistance

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
Interestingly with -ggdb it builds fine with out without -O0. That makes it a lot more likely to be a compiler flaw (though not guaranteed). Does 'make check' pass in the source tree you built with -O0? A backtrace would still be great though.  Try setting DEBUG=fcatch in the environment.  

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-07-02 Thread Iain Arnell
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Glen Turnerg...@gdt.id.au wrote: On 30/06/09 01:39, Bill Nottingham wrote: That's a really crappy place for that message, though. What's the user supposed to do there... reboot and then go download another 700MB - 4GB? Yes it's a crappy place. I knew that

Re: ppc64 assistance

2009-07-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Peter Robinson wrote: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1449113 Unrelated to this issue, but please use make V=1 so we see the actual build command lines in the build.log (see the thread about the new automake). Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Yes and this is not even the first time. Dive Into Python has been in the repo for ages already. That doesn't mean it's compliant with our guidelines on shipping content. I really don't see what benefit it gives us to have a package dumping some book into /usr/share. Can't

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Kevin Koflerkevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Yes and this is not even the first time. Dive Into Python has been in the repo for ages already. That doesn't mean it's compliant with our guidelines on shipping content. I really don't see what

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Rahul Sundaramsunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 07/02/2009 06:58 PM, Adam Miller wrote: +1 on the Books idea Does this look ok? --- comps-f12.xml.in.orig       2009-07-02 15:39:02.0 +0530 +++ comps-f12.xml.in    2009-07-02 19:49:32.108616562 +0530

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Adam Miller
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:14 AM, drago01drag...@gmail.com wrote: If the content enhances the OS user experience, then the content is OK to be packaged in Fedora. This means, for example, that things like: fonts, themes, clipart, and wallpaper are OK. So does a programming book enhance the OS

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2009 08:45 PM, drago01 wrote: If we want to go this route, why limit it to technical books? That's what is currently available. The description can be changed if policy is. Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread David
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Rahul Sundaramsunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 07/02/2009 06:03 PM, drago01 wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Rawhide Reportrawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Compose started at Thu Jul  2 06:15:05 UTC 2009 ... New package ldd-pdf        Linux Device

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2009 08:51 PM, David wrote: I disagree that Fedora should be packaging books, both of these can easily be downloaded via web. Why package something that has no dependencies? We package hundreds of things that have no dependencies and can be downloaded easily via web including fonts.

Re: ppc64 assistance

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1449113 Unrelated to this issue, but please use make V=1 so we see the actual build command lines in the build.log (see the thread about the new automake). With V=1 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1450335name=build.log

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Julian Sikorski
Rahul Sundaram pisze: On 07/02/2009 08:51 PM, David wrote: I disagree that Fedora should be packaging books, both of these can easily be downloaded via web. Why package something that has no dependencies? We package hundreds of things that have no dependencies and can be downloaded

Re: F10 anaconda incompatible with current F10 yum - WTF

2009-07-02 Thread Xavier Toth
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Kevin Koflerkevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Xavier Toth wrote: So I do a yum update, pickup a yum that isn't compatible with the original anaconda and then can no longer make installable DVD's. This is busted! If anaconda is dependent on a specific version of yum

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 08:53:52PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/02/2009 08:51 PM, David wrote: I disagree that Fedora should be packaging books, both of these can easily be downloaded via web. Why package something that has no dependencies? We package hundreds of things that have

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread David
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Rahul Sundaramsunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 07/02/2009 08:51 PM, David wrote: I disagree that Fedora should be packaging books, both of these can easily be downloaded via web. Why package something that has no dependencies? We package hundreds of

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Adam Miller
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Davidbouncingc...@gmail.com wrote: OK, but if the package payload doesn't interoperate with another package, I can't see the point. Fonts, artwork, sure, they are a system resource for other software. By that logic a book distributed in PDF is a system resource

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-07-02 Thread Bill Nottingham
Glen Turner (g...@gdt.id.au) said: That's a really crappy place for that message, though. What's the user supposed to do there... reboot and then go download another 700MB - 4GB? Yes it's a crappy place. I knew that when I suggested it. I just couldn't think of a Javascript hack which would

Re: ppc64 assistance

2009-07-02 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 16:28 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1449113 Unrelated to this issue, but please use make V=1 so we see the actual build command lines in the build.log (see the thread about the new automake). With V=1

Re: ppc64 assistance

2009-07-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Peter Robinson wrote: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1449113 Unrelated to this issue, but please use make V=1 so we see the actual build command lines in the build.log (see the thread about the new automake). With V=1

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2009 08:37 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Yes and this is not even the first time. Dive Into Python has been in the repo for ages already. That doesn't mean it's compliant with our guidelines on shipping content. I really don't see what benefit it gives us to have a

Re: ppc64 assistance

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1449113 Unrelated to this issue, but please use make V=1 so we see the actual build command lines in the build.log (see the thread about the new automake). With V=1 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1450335name=build.log

Re: ppc64 assistance

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1449113 Unrelated to this issue, but please use make V=1 so we see the actual build command lines in the build.log (see the thread about the new automake). With V=1

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Adam Millermaxamill...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:14 AM, drago01drag...@gmail.com wrote: If the content enhances the OS user experience, then the content is OK to be packaged in Fedora. This means, for example, that things like: fonts, themes,

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
Does this look ok? --- comps-f12.xml.in.orig       2009-07-02 15:39:02.0 +0530 +++ comps-f12.xml.in    2009-07-02 19:49:32.108616562 +0530 @@ -520,6 +520,17 @@     /packagelist   /group   group +    idbooks/id +    _nameTechnical Books/_name +    _description/ +    

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Till Maas
On Thu July 2 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: It's also a hard decision where to draw the line: will you accept a PDF of Jules Verne's Around the World in 80 Days (which is in the public domain) as well? What exact criteria make Dive into Python OK and Around the World in 80 Days not? Dive into

Re: ppc64 assistance

2009-07-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Peter Robinson wrote: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1449113 Unrelated to this issue, but please use make V=1 so we see the actual build command lines in the build.log (see the thread about the new automake). With V=1

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Matej Cepl
Kevin Kofler, Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:07:39 +0200: It's also a hard decision where to draw the line: will you accept a PDF of Jules Verne's Around the World in 80 Days (which is in the public domain) as well? What exact criteria make Dive into Python OK and Around the World in 80 Days not? And

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-07-02 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Bill Nottinghamnott...@redhat.com wrote: Glen Turner (g...@gdt.id.au) said: That's a really crappy place for that message, though. What's the user supposed to do there... reboot and then go download another 700MB - 4GB? Yes it's a crappy place. I knew that when

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/7/2 Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 02:52:59PM +0200, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/7/2 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 07/02/2009 06:15 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: Is there a book group? Since we have more than one book, I guess a new group

Package reviews

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, I'm working to get the core moblin packages into Fedora with the plan of having at least experimental support in time for F-12. If you've got a few spare cycles and have some time to review a package there's a list against the tracker bug here.

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Mat Booth
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Bill Nottinghamnott...@redhat.com wrote: Of course, I suspect we'll now have someone claiming that the camel book is actually a religous text. For the love of Larry, have you no respect? -- Mat Booth www.matbooth.co.uk -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: ppc64 assistance

2009-07-02 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 06:30:50PM +0200, Till Maas wrote: On Thu July 2 2009, Josh Boyer wrote: On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 04:51:50PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: No I didn't. Are the details published anywhere of how to request access? I'm working on it. Basically, email dwmw2 or me an ssh

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Matej Cepl
Bill Nottingham, Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:43:10 -0400: I'm not sure how distributable the KJV is or isnt', but it's explicitly forbidden by the guidelines. Of course, I suspect we'll now have someone claiming that the camel book is actually a religous text. Of course, and GNU Manifesto! But, no

Re: packaging fix in boost

2009-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2009 10:45 PM, Petr Machata wrote: Hi, recently we've (that's we as in me and Benjamin Kosnik, not a royal we) broken up boost to sub-packages in Fedora Rawhide, but we forgot to drop a filelist at the main boost package, intended as an umbrella over all the sub-packages. So in

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MC == Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com writes: MC So, how should I propose to FESCO exclusion of DiveIntoPython MC (BTW, wonderful book), Jules Verne and anything else we find? Open a ticket on their trac (https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/). The issue here is that the guidelines explicitly permit

Re: Raising the bar

2009-07-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 13:55 -0400, Christopher Beland wrote: On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 15:27 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: If you have ideas for other areas that could benefit from this kind of attention, please let us know. I can think of a number of different cross-component tests...

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2009 09:33 PM, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/7/2 Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 02:52:59PM +0200, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/7/2 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 07/02/2009 06:15 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: Is there a book group? Since we have

No FESCo meeting for 2009-07-03

2009-07-02 Thread Jon Stanley
Due to the US holiday, FESCo will not hold it's regularly scheduled meeting tomorrow. All business will be postponed until next week. Have a great 4th if you're in the US, and if you're anywhere else, have a great 4th anyway! :) -Jon -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 12:43 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: I'm not sure how distributable the KJV is or isnt' It's been out of copyright for some little time, now. Probably.(*) * Of course, one could potentially make some quite interesting legal arguments about the author credit, and whether

Re: (A)synchronous file operations xdg-open

2009-07-02 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Ville Skyttäville.sky...@iki.fi wrote: IMO the latter is clearly preferable, and would be even a good default.  But then again, it might be too late to change the default as it could break stuff (even if the xdg-open man page doesn't document async/sync

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 07/02/2009 02:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 12:43 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: I'm not sure how distributable the KJV is or isnt' It's been out of copyright for some little time, now. Probably.(*) * Of course, one could potentially make some quite interesting

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Chris Weyl
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Of course, I suspect we'll now have someone claiming that the camel book is actually a religous text. So say we all! :) -Chris -- Chris Weyl Ex astris, scientia -- fedora-devel-list mailing

Re: (A)synchronous file operations xdg-open

2009-07-02 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Jerry Jamesloganje...@gmail.com wrote: I am more and more of the opinion that xdg-open is simply the wrong tool for viewing/editing temporary files.  It wasn't built for that use case, and the tools it invokes were not either. I think the easiest fix here is

Missing libxklavier.so.12 dependency

2009-07-02 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi, For a few days now updating rawhide doesn't work, because it misses a dependency: kdebase-workspace-4.2.95-3.fc12.i586 from rawhide has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: libxklavier.so.12 is needed by package kdebase-workspace-4.2.95-3.fc12.i586 (rawhide) Error: Missing

Re: (A)synchronous file operations xdg-open

2009-07-02 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Colin Walterswalt...@verbum.org wrote: I think the easiest fix here is for the app not to delete the temporary file immediately after the helper exits.  Just write it in $TMPDIR and let tempreaper come along and eat it later. I am an XEmacs developer, and I

Re: mingw32 debuginfo packages without sources, build id

2009-07-02 Thread Erik van Pienbroek
Op woensdag 01-07-2009 om 21:02 uur [tijdzone +0300], schreef Ville Skyttä: Hello, I noticed a bunch of mingw32*-debuginfo packages that contain only *.debug (no sources, no build id) appeared in Rawhide. Is this how mingw32 debuginfo packages are supposed to look like, or is the

Re: Missing libxklavier.so.12 dependency

2009-07-02 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 15:02 -0400, Clemens Eisserer wrote: Hi, For a few days now updating rawhide doesn't work, because it misses a dependency: kdebase-workspace-4.2.95-3.fc12.i586 from rawhide has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: libxklavier.so.12 is needed by package

Re: TeX Live 2008 available for testing

2009-07-02 Thread José Matos
On Saturday 27 June 2009 13:41:42 Jindrich Novy wrote: Good news everyone! I've invented a device that installs TeX Live 2008 on your Fedora! /futurama TeX Live 2008 is now packaged and available for testing. It is not in Fedora yet because it requires reviews of couple of packages. But you

Updates can't handle multiple bug #s?

2009-07-02 Thread Jerry James
I just submitted this update: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/edit/xemacs-21.5.29-1.fc11, which is supposed to close two bugs. When I submitted it, I got this: 500 Internal error The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from fulfilling the request. I checked My

Re: New maintainer needed: dumpasn1, freedroid, http_ping, id3v2, pscan, zzuf

2009-07-02 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Thursday 02 July 2009, Xia Shing Zee wrote: I'm a new package maintainer, but I'll try dumpasn1 and id3v2 Thanks (ditto to the others who grabbed the rest of the packages). Please go ahead and take ownership of these in pkgdb, they have been orphaned already. -- fedora-devel-list mailing

Re: mingw32 debuginfo packages without sources, build id

2009-07-02 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Thursday 02 July 2009, Erik van Pienbroek wrote: The implementation of mingw32 debuginfo packages has recently been discussed on the Fedora-MinGW mailing list: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fedora-mingw/2009-June/001613.html [...] I think it's best to continue this discussion on

Re: mingw32 debuginfo packages without sources, build id

2009-07-02 Thread Erik van Pienbroek
Op vrijdag 03-07-2009 om 00:49 uur [tijdzone +0300], schreef Ville Skyttä: On Thursday 02 July 2009, Erik van Pienbroek wrote: The implementation of mingw32 debuginfo packages has recently been discussed on the Fedora-MinGW mailing list:

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Matej Cepl
Jason L Tibbitts III, Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:32:48 -0500: Open a ticket on their trac (https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/). Hmm, it *is* complicated. The issue here is that the guidelines explicitly permit documentation and help files; diveintopython is obviously documenting Python, and if it was

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Donnerstag, den 02.07.2009, 09:48 -0400 schrieb Paul W. Frields: On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 02:52:59PM +0200, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/7/2 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 07/02/2009 06:15 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: Is there a book group? or what search parameter?

Dracut now has a wiki page in the Fedora wiki...

2009-07-02 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
The Dracut wiki page has now been moved from my drafts to it's permanent location. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Dracut Debugging can be found here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Dracut/Debugging Note i'm not sure if the http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Dracut#Getting_the_Source containst

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Chris Weyl
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Christoph Wickert christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 02.07.2009, 23:10 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On 07/02/2009 09:33 PM, Thomas Janssen wrote: ... Books and Guides even better. Committed for Fedora 12. Correct me if I'm

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
MC == Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com writes: MC Well, I always understood, that documentation which is part of MC normal package is OK, but source package which contains nothing MC else than documentation isn't. If that was the case, then I see 17 -docs packages that build completely separately

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/03/2009 04:56 AM, Christoph Wickert wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 02.07.2009, 23:10 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On 07/02/2009 09:33 PM, Thomas Janssen wrote: ... Books and Guides even better. Committed for Fedora 12. Correct me if I'm wrong, but new groups in comps are expected to be

[Issue 79878] OO.o can not select modern font faces conveniently

2009-07-02 Thread os
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=79878 --- Additional comments from o...@openoffice.org Thu Jul 2 08:16:08 + 2009 --- *** Issue 82986 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

[Bug 507637] Missing fontset info

2009-07-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507637 --- Comment #11 from Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com 2009-07-02 15:20:26 EDT --- In reply to comment #8, I manually

[Bug 503430] Incorrect Kerning in some applications

2009-07-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503430 --- Comment #6 from Caius 'kaio' Chance ccha...@redhat.com 2009-07-02 19:47:56 EDT --- Thanks for info. I am redoing the

[Bug 487581] Liberation Mono: incorrect spacing for Combining Diacritical Marks.

2009-07-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487581 --- Comment #5 from Caius 'kaio' Chance ccha...@redhat.com 2009-07-03 01:09:05 EDT --- I zapped this to draw attention of

pkgdb - bugzilla sync broken?

2009-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
How often is bugzilla.redhat.com updated with changes in Fedora pkgdb? It has yet to sync the audacious* ownership changes from June 29th. Perhaps it's broken? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/describecomponents.cgi?product=Fedora ___

Re: Licensing Guidelines for apps we write

2009-07-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/02/2009 08:53 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Hi, I've had a chance to talk to spot and I've drafted the following policy about licensing the things that we write in Fedora Infrastructure: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Licensing Do people like it? Is a GPL family

Re: Licensing Guidelines for apps we write

2009-07-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 07/02/2009 07:03 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/02/2009 08:53 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Hi, I've had a chance to talk to spot and I've drafted the following policy about licensing the things that we write in Fedora Infrastructure: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Licensing

Re: pkgdb - bugzilla sync broken?

2009-07-02 Thread Jon Stanley
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Michael Schwendtbugs.mich...@gmx.net wrote: How often is bugzilla.redhat.com updated with changes in Fedora pkgdb? It has yet to sync the audacious* ownership changes from June 29th. Perhaps it's broken? It is. Toshio has a change that should be live in the

Re: Licensing Guidelines for apps we write

2009-07-02 Thread Mike McGrath
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/02/2009 08:53 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Hi, I've had a chance to talk to spot and I've drafted the following policy about licensing the things that we write in Fedora Infrastructure:

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