Re: Updates lacking descriptions

2009-08-14 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/14/2009 07:32 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 05:41 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I strongly think Fedora would be better without Rahul and Kevin, two persons I have learned to be doing a good job on certain subjects, but to be a miscast on certain jobs and failure of the

Re: Updates lacking descriptions

2009-08-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/14/2009 09:11 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I strongly think Fedora would be better without Rahul and Kevin, two persons I have learned to be doing a good job on certain subjects, but to be a miscast on certain jobs and failure of the system in Fedora. Of course, noone can hold a opinion

Re: Cannot rely on /dev being present in %post scripts?

2009-08-14 Thread Mike A. Harris
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Woodhouse wrote: According to bug #517013, %post scripts should not assume that /dev is available -- so we can't do anything that requires the existence of /dev/null, /dev/urandom, etc. Is this a known and expected packaging rule, or is

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12 (#2)

2009-08-14 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Bill Nottinghamnott...@redhat.com wrote: Martin Langhoff (martin.langh...@gmail.com) said: To note: it _is_ reported as a 586, so at least ancillary work in yum/anaconda/rpm will be needed so that installing F12 on these supported but not quite 686 CPUs is

Re: F12 to require i686, but which CPUs do not qualify?

2009-08-14 Thread Andrew Haley
Kevin Kofler wrote: Joachim wrote: I do not understand then, that there exist i686 packages which have higher requirements. Those packages need to be fixed. I know there are some audio production packages which are building with SSE enabled (and required, those packages don't do runtime

Re: Updates lacking descriptions

2009-08-14 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/8/14 Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de: On 08/14/2009 07:32 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 05:41 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I strongly think Fedora would be better without Rahul and Kevin, two persons I have learned to be doing a good job on certain subjects, but to be

Re: Error while installing firefox from source build cpio: MD5 sum mismatch

2009-08-14 Thread Harshavardhana
Hi all, I have been trying to build firefox 3.0.13 on Fedora-10, i was successfull in building it but during installation i end up with following md5sum mismatch. This is happening continously with even fresh builds and i don't have firefox installed also. RegardsPreparing...

rawhide report: 20090814 changes

2009-08-14 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Aug 14 06:15:05 UTC 2009 Updated Packages: cups-1.4-0.rc1.15.fc12 -- * Tue Aug 11 2009 Tim Waugh twa...@redhat.com 1:1.4-0.rc1.15 - Avoid empty BrowseLocalProtocols setting (bug #516460, STR #3287). * Mon Aug 10 2009 Tim Waugh twa...@redhat.com

Re: Updates lacking descriptions

2009-08-14 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009, Ralf Corsepius wrote: forth on this now. And censorship doesn't make it better. I strongly think Fedora would be better without Rahul and Kevin, two persons I have learned to be doing a good job on certain subjects, but to be a miscast on certain jobs and failure of

Re: Updates lacking descriptions

2009-08-14 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 05:41 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I strongly think Fedora would be better without Rahul and Kevin, two persons I have learned to be doing a good job on certain subjects, but to be a miscast on certain jobs and failure of the

Re: Updates lacking descriptions

2009-08-14 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/8/14 Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de: On 08/14/2009 07:32 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 05:41 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I strongly think Fedora would be better without Rahul and Kevin, two persons I have learned to be

Re: Updates lacking descriptions

2009-08-14 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de said: On 08/13/2009 06:55 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: Two wrongs does not make a right. Everyone needs to stop the back and forth on this now. And censorship doesn't make it better. Asking people to

Re: Updates lacking descriptions

2009-08-14 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/14/2009 09:11 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I strongly think Fedora would be better without Rahul and Kevin, two persons I have learned to be doing a good job on certain subjects, but to be a miscast on certain jobs and failure of the system in

Re: Package groups vs metapackages

2009-08-14 Thread Dennis Gregorovic
On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 14:38 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 12:53 -0700, Bryan O'Sullivan wrote: I've been working recently on bringing Fedora up to snuff as a platform to build Haskell software on: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Haskell#Haskell_Platform_support

Re: F12 to require i686, but which CPUs do not qualify?

2009-08-14 Thread Tony Nelson
I'm late replying -- had trouble with my mail server -- so I'm moving all my replies to Bill Nottingham's post, as I think he can fix the wiki pages most authoritatively to not say that Athlons will not work, if that is indeed the proper thing to do, given that so many packages depend on

Re: F12 to require i686, but which CPUs do not qualify?

2009-08-14 Thread Naheem Zaffar
Not Bill, but from my understanding, SSE2 was originally going to be required and that question must have been presented and answered at that point. Once the main page got updated after discussion, the original questions that no longer apply have not been removed. 2009/8/14 Tony Nelson That

Re: Lower Process Capabilities

2009-08-14 Thread Jon Stanley
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Till Maasopensou...@till.name wrote: $ sudo -i sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 00, should be 0440 sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting This is sudo checking the permissions of it's own sudoers file. Since they aren't what it expects, it bails. --

Re: F12 to require i686, but which CPUs do not qualify?

2009-08-14 Thread Joachim
I think there's a valid case for making an exception to this: when a package is an accelerated version of a particular library.  That is, when the basic functionality of a library is available in a i686 Fedora package, but a special SSEx version of the library makes use of faster

New, improved FESCo trac instance

2009-08-14 Thread Jon Stanley
As one of the features implemented out of a complaint that the FESCo wiki information was outdated since our move to a Trac-based workflow, there are now templates for various types of tickets in the FESCo trac instance at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco. If you attempt to file a ticket, a

Re: Lower Process Capabilities

2009-08-14 Thread David Malcolm
On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 21:27 -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: On Thursday 13 August 2009 05:53:37 pm John Poelstra wrote: Can you update the feature page to reflect the reduced scope of the feature and its completion percentage? All I see since FESCo met was the change to the detailed description

Re: An error while using livecd-creator

2009-08-14 Thread Jeremy Katz
On Tuesday, August 11 2009, Kushal Das said: I am using livecd-creator on a F-11 box. I have 27GB free on my / partition. The error I am getting is given below: [snip] Error creating Live CD : Unable to install: [('installing package bug-buddy-1:2.26.0-2.fc11.i586 needs 684KB on the

Re: F12 to require i686, but which CPUs do not qualify?

2009-08-14 Thread Deji Akingunola
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Joachimjoachim.frie...@googlemail.com wrote: I think there's a valid case for making an exception to this: when a package is an accelerated version of a particular library.  That is, when the basic functionality of a library is available in a i686 Fedora

Re: F12 to require i686, but which CPUs do not qualify?

2009-08-14 Thread Nalin Dahyabhai
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:38:58AM +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: We need to provide architectural defaults for plain i686, even crappy ones, they just need to work at all. I think there's a valid case for making an exception to this: when a package is an accelerated

Printing test day coming up...

2009-08-14 Thread Matthias Clasen
Another week, another Fit and Finish test day. This time around, we want to look at printing. See http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-08-18_Fit_and_Finish:Printing Both Marek Kasik and Tim Waugh have kindly agreed to be around, so we'll have sufficient expertise for all of the

[ANNOUNCEMENT] dracut-0.9

2009-08-14 Thread Harald Hoyer
dracut-0.9 == - let plymouth attach to the terminal (nice text output now) - new kernel command line parameter rdinfo show dracut output, even when quiet is specified - rd_LUKS_UUID is now handled correctly - dracut-gencmdline: rd_LUKS_UUID and rd_MD_UUID is now correctly generated -

Fedora 12 Alpha Blocker Meeting Recap

2009-08-14 Thread James Laska
Meeting log available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2009-08-14/fedora-bugzappers.2009-08-14-15.13.html = Attendees = jlaska, poelcat, rjune_wrk, stickster, jeff_hann = https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516941 = State: MODIFIED Anyone using the radeon driver is

Re: Printing test day coming up...

2009-08-14 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 11:38 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: Another week, another Fit and Finish test day. This time around, we want to look at printing. See http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-08-18_Fit_and_Finish:Printing Both Marek Kasik and Tim Waugh have kindly agreed to be

Another linux kernel NULL pointer vulnerability ( exploit here )

2009-08-14 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
Hello guy's for the people who don't have updated the kernel. http://grsecurity.net/%7Espender/wunderbar_emporium.tgz -- Itamar Reis Peixoto e-mail/msn: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br sip: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br skype: itamarjp icq: 81053601 +55 11 4063 5033 +55 34 3221 8599 --

FESCo meeting summary for 2009-08-14

2009-08-14 Thread Jon Stanley
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-14/fedora-meeting.2009-08-14-17.01.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-14/fedora-meeting.2009-08-14-17.01.txt Log:

Re: Another linux kernel NULL pointer vulnerability ( exploit here )

2009-08-14 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Freitag, den 14.08.2009, 14:39 -0300 schrieb Itamar Reis Peixoto: Hello guy's for the people who don't have updated the kernel. I'm running kernel-2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64 and this one is not supposed to be fixed, however... http://grsecurity.net/%7Espender/wunderbar_emporium.tgz

Re: naive live USB question

2009-08-14 Thread psmith
On 13/08/09 17:06, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 12:12 +0100, psmith wrote: jeez when i brought up the idea of fedora using hybrid iso's a few months back i was basically lambasted by most on this list, now all of a sudden it's a new F12 feature? wtf??? Didn't you

Re: F12 to require i686, but which CPUs do not qualify?

2009-08-14 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-08-14 09:20:04, Naheem Zaffar wrote: Not Bill, but from my understanding, SSE2 was originally going to be required and that question must have been presented and answered at that point. Once the main page got updated after discussion, the original questions that no longer apply have not

Re: F12 to require i686, but which CPUs do not qualify?

2009-08-14 Thread Jesse Keating
On Aug 14, 2009, at 14:01, Tony Nelson tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: On 09-08-14 09:20:04, Naheem Zaffar wrote: Not Bill, but from my understanding, SSE2 was originally going to be required and that question must have been presented and answered at that point. Once the main page got

Re: F12 to require i686, but which CPUs do not qualify?

2009-08-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 17:01 -0400, Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-08-14 09:20:04, Naheem Zaffar wrote: Not Bill, but from my understanding, SSE2 was originally going to be required and that question must have been presented and answered at that point. Once the main page got updated after

Re: Lower Process Capabilities

2009-08-14 Thread Serge E. Hallyn
Quoting Steve Grubb (sgr...@redhat.com): On Sunday 26 July 2009 07:32:36 pm Steve Grubb wrote: What can be done is that we program the application to drop some of the capabilities so that its not all powerful. There's just one flaw in this plan. The directory for /bin is 0755 root root. So,

Re: Rebuilding mysql 5.1.30-1 fails under fc11

2009-08-14 Thread Tom Lane
Howard Wilkinson how...@cohtech.com writes: I am trying to regenerate the RPM packages for Mysql 5.1.30-1 as currently available for FC11. But the build fails a large number of the test cases. Is there a specific trick for getting this package to build properly? rpl.rpl_relay_space_innodb

Build fails in koji, but not anywhere else ... how to debug?

2009-08-14 Thread Tom Lane
I've been pursuing, with increasing frustration, the seemingly simple goal of getting mysql to rebuild in rawhide since the mass rebuild. It failed in the mass rebuild (on the same source code which had worked fine a few weeks before), and has failed multiple attempts since then, for example

[Change Request] Enable rw /mnt/fedora on puppet1

2009-08-14 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Currently we're mounting /mnt/fedora ro on puppet1. I think that this was a change committed in puppet that affected the /etc/fstab file. That didn't come into play until we rebooted puppet1 last night -- the reboot caused the new fstab to be used and mount /mnt/fedora ro. Here's the changeset

Re: [Change Request] Enable rw /mnt/fedora on puppet1

2009-08-14 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2009-08-14 11:43:37 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Currently we're mounting /mnt/fedora ro on puppet1. I think that this was a change committed in puppet that affected the /etc/fstab file. That didn't come into play until we rebooted puppet1 last night -- the reboot caused the new fstab to be

Recompile kernel without SMP

2009-08-14 Thread Paul Grinberg
Hi there, I am trying to recompile kernel without SMP. So far I've been unsuccessful. Meaning I am able to compile, but it was still SMP.. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong? And why I don't get kernel-headers build? It is probably related to spec parameters So far this is what

RE: Recompile kernel without SMP

2009-08-14 Thread Markus Kesaromous
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:35:22 -0400 From: pgrinb...@nyc.saic.com To: fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com Subject: Recompile kernel without SMP Hi there, I am trying to recompile kernel without SMP. So far I've been unsuccessful. Meaning I am able to compile, but it was still SMP.. Can

RE: Recompile kernel without SMP

2009-08-14 Thread Paul Grinberg
Markus, Thank you for your reply! I already feel better knowing that I'm not alone :) Maybe someone might have a clue Why Best, Paul -Original Message- From: Markus Kesaromous [mailto:remotes...@live.com] Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 4:52 PM To: Paul Grinberg; Linux Kernel List

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Fedora and MS-PL (Dynamic Language Runtime)

2009-08-14 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 08/14/2009 10:49 PM, C.J. Adams-Collier wrote: Hey all, We (the Debian CLI Libraries Team) are packaging IronRuby, IronPython and the Dynamic Language Runtime for Debian. Much of the source in this package is released under the Microsoft Public License:

Re: Unmatched Entries

2009-08-14 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 14/08/09 01:04, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 13Aug2009 23:55, Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com wrote: | In the Smartd section of Logwatch I get the following messages: | | **Unmatched Entries** | Problem creating device name scan list | Device /dev/sda: using '-d sat' for ATA disk behind

Re: Problem with mount.nfs4 on latest Fedora 10 updates

2009-08-14 Thread Howard Wilkinson
Chuck Lever wrote: On Aug 13, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Howard Wilkinson wrote: I have just upgraded a couple of servers from FC9 to FC10 and I am seeing a major problem with mount.nfs4. This occurs when autofs calls the mount program. It then runs at 100% CPU and never terminates. I have VMs

text versus gui (why sound is broken)

2009-08-14 Thread Danny Yee
Having spent yet another few hours trying to get sound to work on my system -- I'm back to a state where I need to reboot to get it to work again -- I've decided the problems with the sound system are at least partly because it's almost entirely managed by gui tools. If there were a full set of

How to check

2009-08-14 Thread Clarence Huang
How to make my own network stability? Because I surf on the Internet by using Fedora 10 and doing yum update on the terminal , sometimes a sudden break, or become unusually slow network. So would like to ask , how to make my network more stable and will not suddenly become unusually slow,

How to check the information is true or false?

2009-08-14 Thread Clarence Huang
Many people tell me, You should check the answer on the Google Search Engine before you ask a question , but How do I know that information is true or false? When I first time ask a question on Debian IRC Channel, they usually tell me this sentence, and now the mailing list guide tell every

Re: How to check the information is true or false?

2009-08-14 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
On 14/08/09 09:35, Clarence Huang wrote: Many people tell me, You should check the answer on the Google Search Engine before you ask a question , but How do I know that information is true or false? When I first time ask a question on Debian IRC Channel, they usually tell me this

Re: system-config-printer not authenticating properly

2009-08-14 Thread Tim Waugh
On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 17:24 -0500, Hooker, Jonathan wrote: I am trying to get system-config-printer to authenticate as a sudo user (one that is a part of the wheel group) instead of the root user when trying to add or modify a printer in fedora 10. I have been unsuccessful in finding any help

Re: nm/nm-applet - how to stop automatic connections

2009-08-14 Thread Mike Cloaked
Rick Stevens-3 wrote: Gee, on mine, I... Right-click on the NM icon in the toolbar Click on Edit Connections Click on the appropriate tab (Wireless, etc.) Click on a network, then click Edit In that edit window, there's a little checkbox marked Connect

Re: firefox open containing folder

2009-08-14 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 19:08 -0700, Skunk Worx wrote: If I right-click the item and select Open Containing Folder it pops up an application named Launch Application and it makes the statement This link needs to be opened with an application. Send to: and I can choose / remember choice / cancel.

Re: How to check the information is true or false?

2009-08-14 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 16:35 +0800, Clarence Huang wrote: How do I know that information is true or false? You have asked a good question. The same applies here. You only hope we have the right answers. You need to use common sense. Do several different websites offer the same advice? Have

BCPL compiler in LINUX/Fedora?

2009-08-14 Thread Joachim Backes
Hi all, I'm looking for a BCPL compiler realized in LINUX, especially Fedora, for i386 CPUs. Somebody knows where to download a rpm, or the compiler source? All hints are welcome. -- Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes smime.p7s Description:

Re: thunderbird pdf association

2009-08-14 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 19:03 -0700, Skunk Worx wrote: I have Fedora 11 X86_64 and when I get a PDF in email via Thunderbird I double click the PDF attachment and it pops up with : somefile.pdf could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the

Anyone wit a Intel DG33* mobo has sound on headphones on F11?

2009-08-14 Thread Andre Costa
Hi, I have an Intel DG33BU mobo, and headphone sound stopped working on F11 (it worked on F10, and still works on WinXP). It seems I've been bitten by bug #500418 [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500418] (I've post some detailed info there). To make a long story short: I've tried both

Re: Internal laptop Microphone with very low gain - HDA-Intel SigmaTel STAC9228

2009-08-14 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 01:41 +1000, Vini Engel wrote: I was wondering if anyone has ever been able to resolve the issues that exist with the sound card below and the low gain of the internal microphone of the laptop. The mic works and so does the external one when plugged, the problem is that

Re: How to check the information is true or false?

2009-08-14 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 20:42 +0930, Tim wrote: to search just this mailing list, site:www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ e.g. http://www.google.com.au/search?q=faq+site%3Awww.redhat.com% 2Farchives%2Ffedora-list%2F Hmm, that might have been clearer if I hadn't copied an encoded URI to the

Testdisk error for LVM partition recover

2009-08-14 Thread Arun Shrimali
Dear All, Recently I have loaded Fedora 11, but yesterday fedora refused to boot. on googling I have found that testdisk is the best tool to recover the data, but end of it ... My steps are as attached finally it give me error as follows : The harddisk (80 GB/74Gib) seems too

Re: Sorting Music by Composer

2009-08-14 Thread Ian Malone
2009/8/12 R. G. Newbury newb...@mandamus.org: Around 07:51pm on Monday, August 10, 2009 (UK time), R. G. Newbury scrawled: Does anyone know of a program with the flexibility to set things up this way? Banshee can sort by composer, or any other tag. Â You will need to right

Re: How to check

2009-08-14 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Clarence Huanga9wh6...@yahoo.com.tw wrote: How to make my own network stability?  Because I surf on the Internet by  using  Fedora 10 and doing  yum update on the terminal , sometimes a sudden break, or become unusually slow network.  So would like to ask ,

Re: How to check the information is true or false?

2009-08-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 14 August 2009 12:12:06 Tim wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 16:35 +0800, Clarence Huang wrote: How do I know that information is true or false? You have asked a good question. The same applies here. You only hope we have the right answers. You need to use common sense. Do

Testing upload/download bandwidth speeds for verification

2009-08-14 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
I have been testing my residential ISP/DSL-Landline connections and wanted to make sure that I was getting what I am paying for. Supposedly, one can use the various website based speed test tools to determine their upload and download speeds. Are these speed test tools credible and can they be

Re: Testing upload/download bandwidth speeds for verification

2009-08-14 Thread Ed Greshko
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I have been testing my residential ISP/DSL-Landline connections and wanted to make sure that I was getting what I am paying for. Supposedly, one can use the various website based speed test tools to determine their upload and download speeds. Are these speed test

Re: Computer Slowing down on F11-X86_64

2009-08-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 08/13/2009 07:44 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 15:59 -0400, Jim wrote: F11/X86_64. Thunderbird, Firefox, everything is being slowed down. Running ps aux give me this , root 2141 1.5 24.0 1349116 243972 tty1 Ss+ Aug09 95:17 /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten

Re: Testing upload/download bandwidth speeds for verification

2009-08-14 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
Ed Greshko wrote: Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I have been testing my residential ISP/DSL-Landline connections and wanted to make sure that I was getting what I am paying for. Supposedly, one can use the various website based speed test tools to determine their upload and download speeds. Are

Recompile kernel without SMP

2009-08-14 Thread Paul Grinberg
Hi there, I am trying to recompile kernel without SMP. So far I've been unsuccessful. Meaning I am able to compile, but it was still SMP.. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong? And why I don't get kernel-headers build? It is probably related to spec parameters So far this is what

Re: Audacious play/stop/pause continuously while playing mp3 files...

2009-08-14 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:52:52 -0700, Paul wrote: Are you using audacious with pulseaudio? You may need to go into the configuration files if so, here is a wiki on a Perfect Setup for pulseaudio: http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup A lot you will not need, i.e.: The

Re: Testing upload/download bandwidth speeds for verification

2009-08-14 Thread Chris Tyler
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 08:29 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I have been testing my residential ISP/DSL-Landline connections and wanted to make sure that I was getting what I am paying for. Supposedly, one can use the various website based speed test tools to determine their upload and

RE: Testing upload/download bandwidth speeds for verification

2009-08-14 Thread Paul Grinberg
Hi, I'd like to suggest a tool that I am usually using to check bandwidth speed. It is called iperf. It does not rely on usual HTTP download (most online checkers use it), but rather on pure TCP session bandwith. Your ISP maybe permits high HTTP downloads, but then throttles SSH or ESP based

Re: Testing upload/download bandwidth speeds for verification

2009-08-14 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
Chris Tyler wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 08:29 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I have been testing my residential ISP/DSL-Landline connections and wanted to make sure that I was getting what I am paying for. Supposedly, one can use the various website based speed test tools to determine

Re: Testing upload/download bandwidth speeds for verification

2009-08-14 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
Paul Grinberg wrote: Hi, I'd like to suggest a tool that I am usually using to check bandwidth speed. It is called iperf. It does not rely on usual HTTP download (most online checkers use it), but rather on pure TCP session bandwith. Your ISP maybe permits high HTTP downloads, but then

Re: FC 11 Boot mode single user [recovery password]

2009-08-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 08/11/2009 10:04 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: Actually, before the umount, you probably want to exit the chroot shell. umount is important in that it forces all data to be written. If you did a proper shutdown, the file system mounted on /mnt/sysimage would be

Re: Testing upload/download bandwidth speeds for verification

2009-08-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 09:21 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: First, the download speed get from any site can only be as high as their upload speed. So, does that mean I am wasting money by going from 768KB/s Up / 768KB/s Down to 768KB/s Up / 3MB/s Down since I will never obtain

Re: Testing upload/download bandwidth speeds for verification

2009-08-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 12:42 -0400, Chris Tyler wrote: Yes. 3 megaBITs per second is just over 300 kiloBYTEs per second. There are 8 bits per byte, plus there's packet and protocol overhead, so a 10:1 ratio between the numbers is normal. Actually not. Even discounting protocol overhead, a

Re: Recompile kernel without SMP

2009-08-14 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Paul Grinberg wrote: # Create RPM package rpmbuild -bb --with firmware --target=i686 kernel.spec Have you checked that the .config in the BUILD dir still actually contains what you want, after building? IIRC, rpmbuild -bb recreates the BUILD directory, and your changes are lost. Try editing

RE: Recompile kernel without SMP

2009-08-14 Thread Paul Grinberg
Roberto, Actually it does have all my changes: [j...@panther linux-2.6.29.i686]$ pwd /home/josh/rpmbuild/BUILD/kernel-2.6.29/linux-2.6.29.i686 [j...@panther linux-2.6.29.i686]$ cat config-i686-PAE | grep SMP CONFIG_BROKEN_ON_SMP=y # CONFIG_SMP is not set CONFIG_X86_FIND_SMP_CONFIG=y #

Re: boost-build/boost-jam

2009-08-14 Thread Peter J. Stieber
PS = Pete Stieber PS Is there some reason these are not packaged PS for Fedora 11? I found the answer in bugzilla... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=325931 Pete -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Local cache / 'repo' of updates and added RPM's

2009-08-14 Thread Jay Mistry
I had to re-install Fedora 10 on a home desktop PC. In regard to this: Is it possible to have a local cache/ repository of all 1) Updates (Critical, Security, Bug-fixes), and 2) Additional installed rpm's (that were installed through PackageKit), e.g. Opera, Adobe Reader, etc. so that I do not

Re: firefox open containing folder

2009-08-14 Thread Skunk Worx
On 08/14/2009 03:45 AM, Tim wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 19:08 -0700, Skunk Worx wrote: If I right-click the item and select Open Containing Folder it pops up an application named Launch Application and it makes the statement This link needs to be opened with an application. Send to: and I can

PCS Wireless card

2009-08-14 Thread Jamie Bohr
I am looking for a inexpensive PCI wireless card that works with Fedora 11 out-of-the-box, any advice? I currently have a D-link DWL-520 but it does not work, mac address is all 0's. The NetGear WG311 looks good but I don't know it is works with FC11 out-of-the-box. -- Jamie Bohr --

Re: thunderbird pdf association

2009-08-14 Thread Skunk Worx
On 08/14/2009 04:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 19:03 -0700, Skunk Worx wrote: I have Fedora 11 X86_64 and when I get a PDF in email via Thunderbird I double click the PDF attachment and it pops up with : somefile.pdf could not be opened, because the associated helper application does

Re: PCS Wireless card

2009-08-14 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
look in ebay http://stores.ebay.com/Goezshopping intel is a good choice, you need to buy a mini-pci adapter, so you can install in your desktop machine. On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Jamie Bohrjamieb...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for a inexpensive PCI wireless card that works with

Configuration of 'desktop daemons'

2009-08-14 Thread Fons Adriaensen
Hello all, For the last few months I have been running a F10 system which has some binaries renamed to stop them from being run. These include: /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon-RENAMED /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon-RENAMED /usr/libexec/gvfsd-RENAMED /usr/libexec/gvfs-fuse-daemon-RENAMED

Re: Sorting Music by Composer

2009-08-14 Thread R. G. Newbury
Ian Malone wrote Anyone got any better ideas for a program which will deal with a tree of  composers, with albums as leaves underneath? Hasn't been written so far as I know. The artist - name model is so pervasive in music tagging that everyone who listens to classical music eventually

Re: Recompile kernel without SMP

2009-08-14 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Paul Grinberg on 08/14/2009 11:37 AM wrote: I am trying to recompile kernel without SMP. No need to recompile. Add nosmp to your kernel command line on bootup. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines:

RE: Recompile kernel without SMP

2009-08-14 Thread Paul Grinberg
Thank you Michael, I will follow your advice. Thanks a lot...didn't quite think about this option : Although I would like to understand why I can't build it properly. Maybe my steps are wrong... The reason why I need it without SMP, is that I need Cisco VPN client to work, but it does not

Re: F11 PulseAudio glitching, yes, for real

2009-08-14 Thread Chris
2009/8/13 Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com: Every so often (every 5-10 minutes) I'll get a stutter from Rhythmbox. This can be during a song or when someone IMs me (Pidgin sound). pulseaudio-0.9.15-14.fc11.x86_64 Fully up to date F11 64-bit machine. Intel Xeon E3110 3ghz (Dual-Core Core

What replaces system-config-display

2009-08-14 Thread Ed Landaveri
Does anyone knows what replaces system-config-display for troubleshooting purposes? I know you can yum install system-config-display but if Fedora left it out it means that future EL release will also. If that's the case what will be used instead to troubleshoot X problems as it was in the past

Re: Testing upload/download bandwidth speeds for verification

2009-08-14 Thread Les
It should also be noted that there is latency related to physical transmission speeds, so if the upload or download does checksums and verify handshaking, then there will be a delay of the roundtrip at the speed of light. Now this seems very fast to most folks, but electronically it is

Re: Local cache / 'repo' of updates and added RPM's

2009-08-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 23:32:48 +0530, Jay Mistry jaylinu...@gmail.com wrote: I had to re-install Fedora 10 on a home desktop PC. In regard to this: Is it possible to have a local cache/ repository of all 1) Updates (Critical, Security, Bug-fixes), and 2) Additional installed rpm's (that

Re: Testing upload/download bandwidth speeds for verification

2009-08-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 14 August 2009 18:23:41 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 12:42 -0400, Chris Tyler wrote: Yes. 3 megaBITs per second is just over 300 kiloBYTEs per second. There are 8 bits per byte, plus there's packet and protocol overhead, so a 10:1 ratio between the numbers is

Re: Partitioning tools and ext4?

2009-08-14 Thread Jay Mistry
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 08/12/2009 12:44 PM, Mike Cloaked wrote: Does anyone know which partitioning tools will play nice with ext4 in F11? eg fdisk, parted, qtparted etc It would be nice to have a list of those tools that can be trusted

Re: Looking for Shuttle recommendations

2009-08-14 Thread Bill Davidsen
Gregory Hosler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I'm looking into buying a Shuttle XPC to run Fedora. I am curious to know if anyone is running Fedora on a Shuttle, and if so, which model? The models readily available near me are: SG31G2B SG33G5

Re: Testing upload/download bandwidth speeds for verification

2009-08-14 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Daniel, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Of the several sites I have tried, they all more or less seemed to be in close agreement with one another in terms of the bandwidth speeds, i.e. my connection speed is quoted at 768KB/s up and 3MB/s down, and the farther away from central, the more reduced is

Re: Looking for Shuttle recommendations

2009-08-14 Thread DJ Delorie
My wife's PC is a diskless Shuttle X27D with 2G ram. Runs Fedora 10 off the file server in the basement (PXE boot), with a DVI LCD monitor. Everything seems to work fine, although it's not a performance box (dual core Atom). We got it for quietness and low power. -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: Testing upload/download bandwidth speeds for verification

2009-08-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 20:25 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: [...] I would say Chris is completely correct. For the OP: don't worry, your ISP seems to be providing you with what you expect. I didn't suggest that what the OP is seeing isn't normal to within a reasonable margin of error. I was

Re: Testing upload/download bandwidth speeds for verification

2009-08-14 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Daniel, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Of the several sites I have tried, they all more or less seemed to be in close agreement with one another in terms of the bandwidth speeds, i.e. my connection speed is quoted at 768KB/s up and 3MB/s down, and the farther away from central,

Re: Testing upload/download bandwidth speeds for verification

2009-08-14 Thread Rick Stevens
Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Daniel, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Of the several sites I have tried, they all more or less seemed to be in close agreement with one another in terms of the bandwidth speeds, i.e. my connection speed is quoted at 768KB/s up and 3MB/s down, and the farther away from central,

Mouse single-click is double-click

2009-08-14 Thread Dennis Mattingly
I ran some updates yesterday on my Fedora 10 desktop. Starting today, my mouse confuses single-click and double click. When I single-click on a text-word, sometimes it highlights. When I single-click on a file, sometimes opens it. When I single-click on the mouse-test lightbulb, sometimes it

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