Re: Fedora Weekly News 195

2009-09-29 Thread Pascal Calarco
Many thanks. This was caught and corrected (on the wiki) shortly after the issue went out. Best regards, - pascal - Original Message - From: fedora-news-list-boun...@redhat.com fedora-news-list-boun...@redhat.com To: fedora-news-l...@redhat.com fedora-news-l...@redhat.com Cc:

Re: Packaging Webmin for Fedora 11+

2009-09-29 Thread Howard Wilkinson
Already made the decision to remove the file when building and have spoken to Jamie Cameron, he will stop distributing these in his packages. But that was not really what I was after. This feature of detecting binary files in noarch packages seems to be fairly new. I was wondering how I can tell

Re: CVS Outage Notification - 2009-09-29 04:25 UTC

2009-09-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 21:22 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: There will be a CVS outage starting at 2009-09-29 04:25 UTC, which will last approximately 3 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2009-09-29

Re: sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Hello, the sugar-pippy rpm in Fedora depends on pygame, which is used by some of the examples. So far, so good, but pygame in turn depends on numpy, a 7.7MB package which a lot of huge dependencies such as atlas

hostapd

2009-09-29 Thread Trever L. Adams
For some time the wifi drivers have been moving away from even WEP AP mode in kernel. Is it possible to get hostapd as a package with a compile configuration similar to the attached one? Thank you, Trever Adams -- Magazines all too frequently lead to books and should be regarded by the prudent

Re: Thunderbird 3.0pre?

2009-09-29 Thread Matej Cepl
Mail Lists, Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:23:11 -0400: You might want to delete your .thunderbird directory and try again. Im happy for you. For what its worth, I have several accounts too - not just many mail folders. My experience is that it is better to run IMAP server on localhost and store all

Re: CVS Outage Notification - 2009-09-29 04:25 UTC

2009-09-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 00:40 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: The outage is now over. Please contact me or anybody else in #fedora-admin if you have issues with your branch (don't forget to cvs up -d) or with building. It was pointed out to me that many of the packages starting with a were not

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-29 Thread Josephine Tannhäuser
2009/9/29 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org Are we removing rsync from the distribution? I hope not. What is your argumentation for keeping rsync, even it doesn't meet the fedora guidelines? What is with the other packages which doesn't meet the guidelines? I believe there are no

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-29 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mar 29 septembre 2009 10:54, Josephine Tannhäuser a écrit : 2009/9/29 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org Are we removing rsync from the distribution? I hope not. What is your argumentation for keeping rsync, even it doesn't meet the fedora guidelines? What is with the other

Re: Packaging Webmin for Fedora 11+

2009-09-29 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 29.09.2009, 08:24 +0100 schrieb Howard Wilkinson: Already made the decision to remove the file when building During build is not enough. If we are not allowed to redistribute it, we cannot distribute it in our source rpms ether. Regards, Christoph -- fedora-devel-list

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-29 Thread Josephine Tannhäuser
2009/9/29 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net Of course we care about existing packages; Oh, really? There exist a tracker for bugs with duplicated libs. There are not really activities on these bugs. Perhaps the maintainers ( not that I blame them) are not interessted in solving these

Re: Packaging Webmin for Fedora 11+

2009-09-29 Thread Josephine Tannhäuser
It has to been clean out of the source. -- Josephine Fine Tannhäuser 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Packaging Webmin for Fedora 11+

2009-09-29 Thread Josephine Tannhäuser
btw. what was the reason for debian to drop webmin? -- Josephine Fine Tannhäuser 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/29/2009 05:14 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: Seems that violations of the guidelines are not so important like the violation of the Trademark (The hunting of fedora related sites, like blogs or forums with adhesions contracts)... Are the project related activities are out of balance?

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-29 Thread Josephine Tannhäuser
2009/9/29 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org Bundling a library is not ideal but removing rsync would be a extreme step. I believe this isn't a technical problem, more a psychological one. Fedora is a (software) technic orientated project, or? -- Josephine Fine Tannhäuser

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/29/2009 05:45 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: 2009/9/29 Rahul Sundaram Bundling a library is not ideal but removing rsync would be a extreme step. I believe this isn't a technical problem, more a psychological one. Fedora is a (software) technic orientated project, or? It

Removing provide statement from an existing spec file

2009-09-29 Thread Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus
Hi all, I took over a package a couple of days ago and have a question according to a provide statement. Consider the following one: Name: myapp Provides: myapp.pl If I interpret the naming guidelines right, then a period is not allowed in a package name. But what about a provide statement

Re: Removing provide statement from an existing spec file

2009-09-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:32:06 +0200, Stefan wrote: Hi all, I took over a package a couple of days ago and have a question according to a provide statement. Consider the following one: Name: myapp Provides: myapp.pl If I interpret the naming guidelines right, then a period is not

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-29 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Josephine Tannhäuser josephine.tannhau...@googlemail.com said: 2009/9/29 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org Bundling a library is not ideal but removing rsync would be a extreme step. I believe this isn't a technical problem, more a psychological one. Fedora is a

Re: PPC/PPC64 disabled in Koji for dist-f13

2009-09-29 Thread Roman Rakus
On 09/29/2009 12:31 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 23:00 +0100, Mat Booth wrote: What do we have to do in order to build on PPC? Does it happen automagically? Once the ppc builders are setup and running smoothly, successful build requests on the primary arches will be

Re: Packaging Webmin for Fedora 11+

2009-09-29 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 29.09.2009, 13:55 +0200 schrieb Josephine Tannhäuser: btw. what was the reason for debian to drop webmin? Dunno, maybe the fact that webmin is a weapon of mass destruction. ;) Regards, Christoph -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Removing provide statement from an existing spec file

2009-09-29 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
SSF == Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus ste...@seekline.net writes: SSF If I interpret the naming guidelines right, then a period is not SSF allowed in a package name. Could you indicate where in the naming guidelines you see that a period is not valid in a package name? - J -- fedora-devel-list

Re: PPC/PPC64 disabled in Koji for dist-f13

2009-09-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 03:56:52PM +0200, Roman Rakus wrote: On 09/29/2009 12:31 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 23:00 +0100, Mat Booth wrote: What do we have to do in order to build on PPC? Does it happen automagically? Once the ppc builders are setup and running

Re: Removing provide statement from an existing spec file

2009-09-29 Thread Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 09:33 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: SSF == Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus ste...@seekline.net writes: SSF If I interpret the naming guidelines right, then a period is not SSF allowed in a package name. Could you indicate where in the naming guidelines you see that

Re: bitmap-fonts by default?

2009-09-29 Thread Jerry James
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com wrote: We have been looking at updating bitmap-fonts recently, and noticed that it is still listed mandatory in the comps @base-x group. So I just wondered a couple of naive questions: - does bitmap-fonts have to be

[KDE] Which Phonon? Phonon backend - GStreamer or Xine?

2009-09-29 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Hi! We, KDE SIG, are considering which backend should be default for Phonon in Fedora. Seems like it's not easy to agree on final decision @ KDE SIG meetings, we'd like to summarize what's the problem, some backends facts (please correct me, comment, add, etc.) and we'd like to hear comments

Re: PPC/PPC64 disabled in Koji for dist-f13

2009-09-29 Thread Roman Rakus
On 09/29/2009 04:48 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 03:56:52PM +0200, Roman Rakus wrote: On 09/29/2009 12:31 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 23:00 +0100, Mat Booth wrote: What do we have to do in order to build on PPC? Does it happen

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/29/2009 05:00 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 09/29/2009 05:14 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: Seems that violations of the guidelines are not so important like the violation of the Trademark (The hunting of fedora related sites, like blogs or forums with adhesions contracts)... Are the

Heads up: net-snmp soname bump in rawhide

2009-09-29 Thread Jan Safranek
Net-SNMP 5.5 is heading to rawhide (i.e. Fedora 13). The update comes with soname bump and few changes in include files. I have tried to recompile all dependent packages in mock and most of them succeeded. I've already notified maintainers of the problematic ones and they know how to fix them.

Re: Thunderbird 3.0pre?

2009-09-29 Thread Christopher Aillon
On 09/27/2009 08:15 AM, Mail Lists wrote: On 09/27/2009 11:02 AM, drago01 wrote: On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 5:00 PM, mike cloakedmike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any chance there will be a build of Thunderbird 3.0PRE in Koji soon? It would be nice to see a build for F11 and F12 as I

Re: Removing provide statement from an existing spec file

2009-09-29 Thread Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 14:45 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: [...] But what about a provide statement (guess it's the same)? No. See e.g. the automatic library SONAME provides: libfoo.so.0 Or see rpm -qa --provides. Good point. In case it is also illegal what would be the best to do. Will

Re: [KDE] Which Phonon? Phonon backend - GStreamer or Xine?

2009-09-29 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
FJR == Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com writes: FJR * Phonon backend not as mature as Xine one FJR - missing functionality Perhaps you could supply more detail as to which functionality is missing? - J -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Removing provide statement from an existing spec file

2009-09-29 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mar 29 septembre 2009 17:26, Jason L Tibbitts III a écrit : SSF == Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus ste...@seekline.net writes: SSF https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/NamingGuidelines#Separators SSF When naming packages for Fedora, the maintainer must use the dash SSF '-' as the

Re: Removing provide statement from an existing spec file

2009-09-29 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mar 29 septembre 2009 17:43, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit : I don't think the list of examples right below this § supports your view (and actually I do believe the list of existing infringing packages is small enough renaming them would have been worth removing any future package confusion)

rawhide report: 20090929 changes

2009-09-29 Thread Rawhide Report
at laposte.net - 4.1-5 — Tweak fontconfig fixing skkdic-20090929-1.T0800.fc12 * Tue Sep 29 2009 Mamoru Tasaka mtas...@ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp - 20090929-1.T0800 - Update for F12Beta sound-juicer-2.28.0-3.fc12 -- * Mon Sep 28 2009 Richard Hughes rhug

Re: Adding encrypted drive to encrypted system post installation

2009-09-29 Thread Tim Waugh
On Sat, 2009-09-26 at 20:02 +0200, Till Maas wrote: You need to edit /etc/crypttab (man crypttab) to create a mapping for unencrypting the partition and /etc/fstab to mount the unencrypted volume. This was what I needed, thank you. After adding that line, I just needed to add a line to

Re: Heads up: net-snmp soname bump in rawhide

2009-09-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 05:16:13PM +0200, Jan Safranek wrote: Net-SNMP 5.5 is heading to rawhide (i.e. Fedora 13). The update comes Rawhide is still based on dist-f12. We have no cute name for dist-f13. josh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: [KDE] Which Phonon? Phonon backend - GStreamer or Xine?

2009-09-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jaroslav Reznik wrote: GStreamer backend facts: * now default one in Fedora (F12, rawhide) * GStreamer is Fedora's default multimedia framework - better support from Fedora side? (PA, releases) * Phonon backend not as mature as Xine one - missing functionality More bugs too. * Maybe

Fedora 12 Freeze at 0600~ 2009-09-30 UTC

2009-09-29 Thread Jesse Keating
Just a reminder that the Fedora 12 freeze will be happening tonight at 0600 2009-09-30 UTC, just prior to the rawhide compose tonight. The rawhide for 20090930 will be built from frozen content. You do not need to send tag requests until after that. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a

Re: [KDE] Which Phonon? Phonon backend - GStreamer or Xine?

2009-09-29 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 29.09.09 18:23, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) wrote: Jaroslav Reznik wrote: GStreamer backend facts: * now default one in Fedora (F12, rawhide) * GStreamer is Fedora's default multimedia framework - better support from Fedora side? (PA, releases) * Phonon backend not

Upcoming Fedora 12 Development/Release Engineering Tasks

2009-09-29 Thread John Poelstra
Upcoming Fedora 12 Development/Release Engineering Tasks Name Start End Alpha Testing Tue 2009-08-25 Tue 2009-09-29 Software: Rebuild all translated packages Tue 2009-09-22 Tue 2009-09-29

Re: Removing provide statement from an existing spec file

2009-09-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:43:38 +0200, Nicolas wrote: Le Mar 29 septembre 2009 17:26, Jason L Tibbitts III a écrit : SSF == Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus writes: SSF https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/NamingGuidelines#Separators SSF When naming packages for Fedora, the maintainer must

Re: Heads up: net-snmp soname bump in rawhide

2009-09-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 12:13 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: Rawhide is still based on dist-f12. We have no cute name for dist-f13. Futurehide -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://jkeating.livejournal.com) Fedora Project (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JesseKeating) GPG Public Key

Re: Heads up: net-snmp soname bump in rawhide

2009-09-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 12:13 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: Rawhide is still based on dist-f12. We have no cute name for dist-f13. Futurehide I expect that to be the name of a scifi book published by ToR -sv -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: Heads up: net-snmp soname bump in rawhide

2009-09-29 Thread Jarod Wilson
On 09/29/2009 01:16 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 12:13 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: Rawhide is still based on dist-f12. We have no cute name for dist-f13. Futurehide Runandhide -- Jarod Wilson ja...@redhat.com -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Heads up: net-snmp soname bump in rawhide

2009-09-29 Thread Jon Ciesla
Seth Vidal wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 12:13 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: Rawhide is still based on dist-f12. We have no cute name for dist-f13. Futurehide I expect that to be the name of a scifi book published by ToR -sv Yeah, but a movie then

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 08:15 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Josephine Tannhäuser josephine.tannhau...@googlemail.com said: 2009/9/29 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org Bundling a library is not ideal but removing rsync would be a extreme step. I believe this isn't

Re: [KDE] Which Phonon? Phonon backend - GStreamer or Xine?

2009-09-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 17:03 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Hi! We, KDE SIG, are considering which backend should be default for Phonon in Fedora. Seems like it's not easy to agree on final decision @ KDE SIG meetings, we'd like to summarize what's the problem, some backends facts (please

Re: rawhide report: 20090929 changes

2009-09-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 03:57:34PM +, Rawhide Report wrote: ocaml-cairo-1.2.0.cvs20080301-10.fc12.i686 requires ocaml(Gdk) = 0:55ef19f3e95d047e0df14bf67c04 ocaml-camlimages-3.0.1-11.fc12.i686 requires ocaml(Gdk) = 0:55ef19f3e95d047e0df14bf67c04

Re: Heads up: net-snmp soname bump in rawhide

2009-09-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 13:19 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 12:13 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: Rawhide is still based on dist-f12. We have no cute name for dist-f13. Futurehide I expect that to be the name of a scifi book

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Exemption for bundling local copy of system library?

2009-09-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/29/2009 11:37 AM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: Hi, Oolite http://oolite.org is currently undergoing review, and a stumbling block is in its use of its own copy of libjs. An upstream developer is participating in the review and has a clear explanation for the rationale:

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 29-09-2009 a las 12:36 +, Aleksey Lim escribió: pygame and numpy are parts of Sugar Platform[1], at least for 0.84, so, the right question is should these pakcages be a part of SP-0.86 I guess +1 for both, since we have honey activities that are depend on these packages. In Sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Tue, 29-09-2009 a las 12:36 +, Aleksey Lim escribió: pygame and numpy are parts of Sugar Platform[1], at least for 0.84, so, the right question is should these pakcages be a part of SP-0.86 I guess +1 for both,

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 29-09-2009 a las 16:25 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz escribió: Bernie Innocenti wrote: 1) are there lighter-weight alternatives for the most popular uses of numpy? No. It has no competition, and is used by virtually every program that uses python and performs array manipulation. I

Re: [KDE] Which Phonon? Phonon backend - GStreamer or Xine?

2009-09-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Lennart Poettering wrote: Uh. Nokia stands pretty firmly behind gst. As do most embedded folks. Behind GStreamer, sure. Behind Phonon (and thus also Phonon-GStreamer), not so much. They're currently using it, but there are people working on the Qt Mobility project talking about replacing

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Tue, 29-09-2009 a las 16:25 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz escribió: Bernie Innocenti wrote: 1) are there lighter-weight alternatives for the most popular uses of numpy? No.  It has no competition, and is used by

Re: sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/29/2009 12:51 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Hello, the sugar-pippy rpm in Fedora depends on pygame, which is used by some of the examples. So far, so good, but pygame in turn depends on numpy, a 7.7MB package

Re: Removing provide statement from an existing spec file

2009-09-29 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mar 29 septembre 2009 17:42, Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus a écrit : Right. I was in doubt if the provide statement was/is really fine, so I wanted to clarify this. Also package naming guidelines do not apply to provides. FPC has even explicitely used the just stuff it in provides argument

Re: sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/29/2009 12:51 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Hello, the sugar-pippy rpm in Fedora depends on pygame, which is used by some of the examples.

Re: sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/29/2009 01:52 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: I admit I'm not following sugar and numpy discussions too closely so I might have missed it but I don't remember this. I do remember talking about removing the numpy

Re: sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/29/2009 01:52 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: I admit I'm not following sugar and numpy discussions too closely so I might have missed it but

Re: sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/29/2009 02:11 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: rawhide, I think the numpy support was just dropped from pygtk2 as opposed to fixing the dependencies in numpy themselves. numpy still depends on atlas and various other stuff. I'm not sure what the impact of either changes are, I'd have to dig

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-09-29 Thread Steve Dickson
On 09/29/2009 05:43 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 17:33 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen Which means you're about a month too late in making it for Fedora 12. Please reconsider making this change, as we're /well/ past the

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-09-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 17:52 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: I thought today was the dead line... http://www.linux-archive.org/fedora-development/372823-all-features-need-100-beta-freeze-2009-09-29-a.html Plus all the kernel parts and the user level code have been in placed for a few

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-09-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 17:52 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: I thought today was the dead line... http://www.linux-archive.org/fedora-development/372823-all-features-need-100-beta-freeze-2009-09-29-a.html I should mention that Beta is the deadline to have the code in what we think is the final

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-09-29 Thread Steve Dickson
On 09/29/2009 06:13 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 17:52 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: I thought today was the dead line... http://www.linux-archive.org/fedora-development/372823-all-features-need-100-beta-freeze-2009-09-29-a.html I should mention that Beta is the

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-pippy dependencies

2009-09-29 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 09/29/2009 02:35 PM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Bernie Innocentiber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Tue, 29-09-2009 a las 12:36 +, Aleksey Lim escribió: Questions: 1) are there lighter-weight alternatives for the most popular uses of numpy? How about

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-09-29 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 06:21:35PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: On 09/29/2009 06:13 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 17:52 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: I thought today was the dead line...

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Exemption for bundling local copy of system library?

2009-09-29 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-09-29 15:37:10, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: I would argue no. The guidelines are written to apply to all libraries except with very limited exceptions to keep this from happening because security vulnerabilities are not limited to network facing code, suid code, or any other class that

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-09-29 Thread Steve Dickson
On 09/29/2009 06:55 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 06:21:35PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: On 09/29/2009 06:13 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 17:52 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: I thought today was the dead line...

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-09-29 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 07:12:03PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: On 09/29/2009 06:55 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 06:21:35PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: On 09/29/2009 06:13 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 17:52 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: I thought

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-09-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 19:16 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: I think that what we need, Steve, is some sort of information about what testing has happened up to this point that satisfies FESCo that this change the equivalent of moving the needle from 99% complete to 100% complete, as

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-09-29 Thread Steve Dickson
On 09/29/2009 07:16 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 07:12:03PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: On 09/29/2009 06:55 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 06:21:35PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: On 09/29/2009 06:13 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-09-29 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Steve Dickson wrote: On 09/29/2009 07:16 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 07:12:03PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: On 09/29/2009 06:55 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 06:21:35PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: On 09/29/2009 06:13

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-09-29 Thread John Poelstra
Steve Dickson said the following on 09/29/2009 04:35 PM Pacific Time: On 09/29/2009 07:16 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 07:12:03PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: On 09/29/2009 06:55 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 06:21:35PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-09-29 Thread Steve Dickson
On 09/29/2009 07:52 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: By no means did I interpret that at all... but here lies the problem... I had no idea I would have to convenience *anybody* of *anything* because I thought I made the dead line... again all following was the schedule in:

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-09-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/29/2009 05:38 PM, Steve Dickson wrote: On 09/29/2009 08:17 PM, John Poelstra wrote: [...snip...] I want to be perfectly clear that I'm not sounding an all clear on this by any means. If your answer here means that this change hasn't been thoroughly tested, you're going to have a hard

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-09-29 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com said: On the server (Which is suggested): * Add the following entry to the /etc/exports file: / *(ro,fsid=0) Note: 'fsid=0' is explained in the exports(5) man pages. The suggested solution is to change your NFS servers (that work just

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-09-29 Thread Jeremy Katz
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com wrote: My main concern is with installer, installing from NFS shares from older servers, say RHEL5.  How will anaconda handle mounting?  Will there be odd errors that are difficult to figure out?  Has this been tested in the

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-09-29 Thread Steve Dickson
On 09/29/2009 09:42 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com said: On the server (Which is suggested): * Add the following entry to the /etc/exports file: / *(ro,fsid=0) Note: 'fsid=0' is explained in the exports(5) man pages. The suggested solution

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-09-29 Thread Steve Dickson
On 09/29/2009 09:21 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: One thing I think is unclear this cycle is the usage of the word Beta. It's been said many times that beta is not really beta but actually final freeze. For instance: If all goes as planned the Beta (previously known as Final Development) Freeze

Re: Packaging Webmin for Fedora 11+

2009-09-29 Thread Josephine Tannhäuser
2009/9/29 Christoph Wickert christoph.wick...@googlemail.com Dunno, maybe the fact that webmin is a weapon of mass destruction. ;) Afairr it is/was one. Bring it to fedora won't be a good idea?! -- Josephine Fine Tannhäuser 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: [KDE] Which Phonon? Phonon backend - GStreamer or Xine?

2009-09-29 Thread Eric Springer
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: Do I hear an I told you so!? Abstractionitis is an illness, not a remedy. Aren't you the pulseaudio developer? /runs and hides -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Where is Callum Lerwick / seg?

2009-09-29 Thread Callum Lerwick
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III ti...@math.uh.edu wrote: I know that Callum has in the past had periods where he is very busy. Given that he's asked for assistance before, and that no reasonable maintainer wouldn't want help from experienced packagers when busy, I went

[Bug 522648] glyphs cut-off below baseline in firefox

2009-09-29 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522648 Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 518928] all English text in Japanese KDE apps looks double-spaced

2009-09-29 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518928 Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 481068] bitmap-fonts needs updating to revised packaging guidelines

2009-09-29 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481068 --- Comment #13 from Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com 2009-09-29 05:29:03 EDT --- sorry for bit late update fc-scan

[Bug 523454] [ml_IN] Fontconfig settings for Meera font not working properly

2009-09-29 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523454 --- Comment #4 from Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com 2009-09-29 07:22:57 EDT --- It will be nice if you update this bug

[Bug 523454] [ml_IN] Fontconfig settings for Meera font not working properly

2009-09-29 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523454 --- Comment #5 from Rajeesh rajeeshknamb...@gmail.com 2009-09-29 07:38:06 EDT --- Versions: fontconfig-2.7.1-1.fc11.i586

[Bug 512079] Review Request: oflb-prociono-fonts - A serif font created by Barry Schwartz

2009-09-29 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512079 --- Comment #4 from Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com 2009-09-29 09:56:33 EDT --- hi, Updated spec:

[Bug 523454] [ml_IN] Fontconfig settings for Meera font not working properly

2009-09-29 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523454 --- Comment #6 from Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com 2009-09-29 11:29:27 EDT --- (In reply to comment #0) Description

[Bug 461617] modified Sazanami-Gothic font showing vertical text rendering glitches not seen in the original

2009-09-29 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461617 --- Comment #13 from Caolan McNamara caol...@redhat.com 2009-09-29 11:45:41 EDT --- So, on the ttx front I have some

[Bug 513582] segfault in FTC_CMapCache_Lookup()

2009-09-29 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513582 --- Comment #41 from mpsuz...@hiroshima-u.ac.jp 2009-09-29 13:48:21 EDT --- The patch in comment #35 is applied to git

[Bug 522187] Java (so Eclipse too) crashes

2009-09-29 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522187 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 522187] Java (so Eclipse too) crashes

2009-09-29 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522187 --- Comment #9 from Mark mel4j...@gmail.com 2009-09-29 14:32:18 EDT --- Tell me what do you need. I have been updating

[Bug 522187] Java (so Eclipse too) crashes

2009-09-29 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522187 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 461617] modified Sazanami-Gothic font showing vertical text rendering glitches not seen in the original

2009-09-29 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461617 --- Comment #14 from Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com 2009-09-29 22:23:02 EDT --- Thanks for analysing. here is more details in

[Bug 512504] syntaxError: invalid syntax File /usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/FontTools/fontTools/ttLib/tables/ttProgram.py, line 397 as = p.getAssembly()

2009-09-29 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512504 --- Comment #1 from Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com 2009-09-29 23:06:40 EDT --- Created an attachment (id=363113) --

Re: CVS Outage Notification - 2009-09-29 04:25 UTC

2009-09-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 00:40 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: The outage is now over. Please contact me or anybody else in #fedora-admin if you have issues with your branch (don't forget to cvs up -d) or with building. It was pointed out to me that many of the packages starting with a were not

Re: FAD -- startin' early

2009-09-29 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 03:42:21PM -0700, Darren VanBuren wrote: I assume you won't be doing stuff at 18:40-ish on Friday. Because, unfortunately that's when I get home (15:40-ish back here on the West Coast). If you could make like a rough outline of what happened on Friday at the

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