Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-10-02 Thread Matej Cepl
Jesse Keating, Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:39:16 -0700: We've stopped caring about anything outside of the critical path. Thanks for clarifying it. At least I know now that I should give up on maintaining Fedora packages because nobody cares about them. Will do next week. Matěj -- fedora-devel-list

Re: KDE-SIG weekly report (40/2009)

2009-10-02 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Thursday 01 October 2009 20:38:30 Sebastian Vahl wrote: Am Mittwoch 30 September 2009 schrieb Jaroslav Reznik: o future of Phonon * Upstream (sandsmark) recommends building/packaging phonon from qt, and building/packaging backends separately. * Mandriva developments integrating

Problems building kernel

2009-10-02 Thread Quentin Armitage
I'm trying to build an old(ish) kernel (2.6.29.1-46-fc11.i586) on an up-to-date F-11 system, but I keep getting a build failure. I have tracked it down to the following. At the beginning of the %install stage, it executes '[' /u/home/hsn/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/kernel-2.6.29.1-46.fc11.i386 '!=' / ']

Problems building kernel

2009-10-02 Thread Quentin Armitage
I'm trying to build an old(ish) kernel (2.6.29.1-46-fc11.i586) on an up-to-date F-11 system, but I keep getting a build failure. I have tracked it down to the following. At the beginning of the %install stage, it executes '[' /u/home/hsn/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/kernel-2.6.29.1-46.fc11.i386 '!=' / ']

Re: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13

2009-10-02 Thread Christof Damian
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 19:15, David Malcolm dmalc...@redhat.com wrote:  - We have a working, valuable python 2 stack, which is used by critical system components (yum and anaconda): we must not destabilize the python 2 stack. Do we have an idea how far our stack is from working on python3 ?

Re: Problems building kernel

2009-10-02 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Quentin Armitage wrote, at 10/02/2009 04:43 PM +9:00: I'm trying to build an old(ish) kernel (2.6.29.1-46-fc11.i586) on an up-to-date F-11 system, but I keep getting a build failure. I have tracked it down to the following. At the beginning of the %install stage, it executes '['

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-10-02 Thread Michal Schmidt
Dne Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:08:16 + (UTC) Matej Cepl napsal(a): Jesse Keating, Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:39:16 -0700: We've stopped caring about anything outside of the critical path. Thanks for clarifying it. At least I know now that I should give up on maintaining Fedora packages because nobody

Re: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13

2009-10-02 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 02/10/2009 09:46, Christof Damian a écrit : Do we have an idea how far our stack is from working on python3 ? And how far all the rest of python packages is? Not much, there are few external modules working though the list is slowly growing (pyqt4, openCV etc, libxml...). Here are some

-doc, -devel and -examples sub-packages question

2009-10-02 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)
I've pack library ne7ssh https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521909 . History in two words: It contain 6 examples files and Makefile to built it. I've package it into ne7ssh-examples sub-package. Michael Schwendt say what it should not be separate sub-package, and right point me

-doc, -examples sub-packages creation question

2009-10-02 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)
I've pack library ne7ssh https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521909 . History in two words: It contain 6 examples files and Makefile to built it. I've package it into ne7ssh-examples sub-package. Michael Schwendt say what it should not be separate sub-package, and right point me

-doc, -examples sub-packages creation question

2009-10-02 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)
I'm package library ne7ssh https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521909 . History in two words: It contain 6 examples files and Makefile to built it. I've package it into ne7ssh-examples sub-package. Michael Schwendt say what it should not be separate sub-package, and right point me

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-10-02 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 2 Oct 2009, Matej Cepl wrote: Jesse Keating, Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:39:16 -0700: We've stopped caring about anything outside of the critical path. Thanks for clarifying it. At least I know now that I should give up on maintaining Fedora packages because nobody cares about them. Will

rawhide report: 20091002 changes

2009-10-02 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Oct 2 06:15:09 UTC 2009 Broken deps for i386 -- PolicyKit-olpc-1.2-2.fc11.noarch requires /var/lib/PolicyKit-public argus-2.0.6.fixes.1-16.fc11.i586 requires libpcap.so.0.9

Trying to build zkt 0.99c on Fedora 11

2009-10-02 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
I'm trying to build zkt 0.99c on Fedora 11 (x86_64) and am running into the following error: gcc -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic -g -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -c -o soaserial.o

Re: CalDAV Calendar (BedeWork)

2009-10-02 Thread Trever L. Adams
Mat Booth wrote: This package has a bunch of property files that you have to edit before you build the program. (http://www.bedework.org/downloads/3.5/BedeworkManual-3.5.pdf#page=18) Also, setting usernames and passwords at compile time is definitely not normal for *any* kind of application.

Re: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13

2009-10-02 Thread chasd
Taking a step back to look at a broader picture, what is determined here might be helpful when migrating other packages such as : perl6 php6 java2 ( or whatever Sunacle calls it officially ) ruby2 Although none of those are as central to the operation of Fedora as python, they all will suffer

Re: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13

2009-10-02 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Ven 2 octobre 2009 17:07, chasd a écrit : java2 ( or whatever Sunacle calls it officially ) We use our own naming for this because SUN changed its mind too often on how it should be named. So now we ignore upstream naming and use our own consistent one. -- Nicolas Mailhot --

Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-02 Thread Matej Cepl
(intentionally breaking the thread so this is not burried somewhere in depths) Michal Schmidt, Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:15:30 +0200: You're misinterpreting Jesse's quote out of context. I am misunderstanding them (in case your interpretation is more correct). So that's just that rel-eng doesn't

Re: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13

2009-10-02 Thread Christof Damian
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 17:07, chasd ch...@silveroaks.com wrote: Taking a step back to look at a broader picture, what is determined here might be helpful when migrating other packages such as : perl6 php6 java2 ( or whatever Sunacle calls it officially ) ruby2 the good thing is that they

Re: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13

2009-10-02 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
perl6 That's already a Fedora 12 feature. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Rakudo_Perl_6 -- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13

2009-10-02 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Haïkel Guémar karlthe...@gmail.com wrote: *BSD, fellow GNU/Linux distro like Debian [...] are able to ship multiples python stacks In Debian's case of course there are actually *two* separate Python systems ;) http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPythonFAQ I didn't

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-10-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:35:33 -0700 John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com wrote: ...snip... The current FESCo might also want to consider taking more of a leadership role in monitoring the release processes, tracking the schedule, and evaluating the quality of the release under development and

Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-02 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 15:26 +, Matej Cepl wrote: I am misunderstanding them (in case your interpretation is more correct). So that's just that rel-eng doesn't have enough work to do (otherwise, why they do not control only critical path components?). Releng and QA are very small

Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-02 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2009/10/2 Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com: pspp -- A program for statistical analysis of sampled data I can take care of if. jbrout -- Photo manager, written in python/pygtk pyexiv2 -- Python binding to exiv2 (used by jbrout) I'm using it, so I'll take care of it.. -- With best regards, Peter

Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-02 Thread Matěj Cepl
Jesse Keating jkeating at redhat.com writes: Releng and QA are very small groups. The Fedora package set is extremely large. Over 8K packages. The rate of change is far too grate to provide second guessing over every package. That's why I am surprised you want to click through all those

FESCo meeting summary for 2009-10-02

2009-10-02 Thread Jon Stanley
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCo meeting 20091002 === Meeting started by jds2001 at 17:00:47 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-10-02/fedora-meeting.2009-10-02-17.00.log.html

Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-02 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Freitag, den 02.10.2009, 15:26 + schrieb Matej Cepl: I also wish to orphan these packages, and frankly I care about them much less, so if nobody steps up, I will probably just let them die. JSDoc -- Produces javadoc-style documentation from JavaScript sourcefiles nimbus -- Desktop

creating a updated DVD with fedora install

2009-10-02 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
anyone can help ? it's possible to create a updated DVD with fedora install ? how ? -- Itamar Reis Peixoto e-mail/msn: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br sip: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br skype: itamarjp icq: 81053601 +55 11 4063 5033 +55 34 3221 8599 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

NFS and slow boot

2009-10-02 Thread Valent Turkovic
Hi, I'm building custom Fedora remix with some packages from RPMFusion and updated Fedora packages. Last Live USB image I created booted really slow (over 5 minutes). I tracked down the issue to nfs service. Even when this ISO image is used for installing Fedora to HDD the same issue is present.

Switching to Native Upstart Scripts?

2009-10-02 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
I was wondering what the consensus on switching to native Upstart scripts (/etc/event.d/*) vs. keeping the traditional SysV init scripts (/etc/rc.d/init.d) for daemons was? I was looking at switching Asterisk over and have an Upstart script that seems to work fairly well. I would be making the

Re: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13

2009-10-02 Thread David Malcolm
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 13:15 -0400, David Malcolm wrote: [snip] (replying to self, with some archive links) An earlier proposal about python 3 in Fedora is here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-May/msg02417.html ...which was the Let's make a plan for python3.0 in Fedora

Re: creating a updated DVD with fedora install

2009-10-02 Thread John Reiser
it's possible to create a updated DVD with fedora install ? yum install pungi man pungi VERSION=12 DESTDIR=/my_destination_directory/Fedora$VERSION ARCH=i386 # These are for re-using the destination directory(ies) # such as when using the destination by more than one $ARCH. rm -rf

Re: Switching to Native Upstart Scripts?

2009-10-02 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jeffrey Ollie (j...@ocjtech.us) said: I was wondering what the consensus on switching to native Upstart scripts (/etc/event.d/*) vs. keeping the traditional SysV init scripts (/etc/rc.d/init.d) for daemons was? I was looking at switching Asterisk over and have an Upstart script that seems to

Re: NFS and slow boot

2009-10-02 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:13:42 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: After stopping nfs service boot time was around 30 seconds! I ment to say before stoping, sorry. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf,

Re: Switching to Native Upstart Scripts?

2009-10-02 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: 1) Likely for F-13 we're moving to upstart 0.6.x. 2) We currently have no mechanism for the following: - not starting services automatically that happen to have jobs installed - enforcing dependencies between SysV and

F-12 Beta Blocker Meeting 2009-10-02 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT) - Recap

2009-10-02 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 15:43 -0400, James Laska wrote: When: Friday, 2009-10-02 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT) Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net Thanks to all in attendance! See below for the meeting summary. #fedora-bugzappers: F-12 Beta

Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 17:37:18 +, Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: Jesse Keating jkeating at redhat.com writes: Releng and QA are very small groups. The Fedora package set is extremely large. Over 8K packages. The rate of change is far too grate to provide second guessing over

Re: Switching to Native Upstart Scripts?

2009-10-02 Thread Steve Grubb
On Friday 02 October 2009 02:42:43 pm Bill Nottingham wrote: enforcing dependencies between SysV and upstart scripts - if a package that provides a service that a SysV service depends on (via LSB headers) changes to an upstart script, things go wrong. Also last time I checked, they still

Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-02 Thread Matej Cepl
- Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: Bugs can include RFEs as well as actual brokeness. I don't think that really buys you anything. And a bad maintainer could just file an RFE for an upgrade and refer to that bug when they provide the upgrade. Yes, of course, but I expect Fedora

Re: NFS and slow boot

2009-10-02 Thread Steve Dickson
On 10/02/2009 02:13 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: Hi, I'm building custom Fedora remix with some packages from RPMFusion and updated Fedora packages. Last Live USB image I created booted really slow (over 5 minutes). I tracked down the issue to nfs service. Even when this ISO image is used for

Re: NFS and slow boot

2009-10-02 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com wrote: Is there any kind of a error being logged in /var/log/messages? Wild guess; nfs client service is trying to look up the hostname (possibly repeatedly), but it's broken. I think in F11 something regressed in

Re: NFS and slow boot

2009-10-02 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:59:11 +, Colin Walters wrote: Wild guess; nfs client service is trying to look up the hostname (possibly repeatedly), but it's broken. I think in F11 something regressed in Here you can see the bootchart from freshly built Fedora 11 updated packages:

Re: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13

2009-10-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 10/02/2009 08:48 AM, Colin Walters wrote: On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Haïkel Guémar karlthe...@gmail.com wrote: *BSD, fellow GNU/Linux distro like Debian [...] are able to ship multiples python stacks In Debian's case of course there are actually *two* separate Python systems ;)

Re: creating a updated DVD with fedora install

2009-10-02 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
we in ojuba.org have produced an updated Fedora-11-based distro + rpmfusion + extra Arabic/Islamic software this was on 2009/09/16 you may like to give it a try. http://distrowatch.com/ojuba http://www.ojuba.org/wiki/news/14300926-en as mentioned by John Reiser we have used pungi --

Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-02 Thread drago01
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: - Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: Bugs can include RFEs as well as actual brokeness. I don't think that really buys you anything. And a bad maintainer could just file an RFE for an upgrade and refer to that bug when

Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-02 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 17:37 +, Matěj Cepl wrote: That's why I am surprised you want to click through all those requests for fixes in non-essential packages. Why not leave them open (or allow updates only when bug number is attached)? Because we don't have the infrastructure to handle

Re: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13

2009-10-02 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:15 PM, David Malcolm dmalc...@redhat.com wrote: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13 [snip]  - I don't want to add extra work for package maintainers:  if you maintain an SRPM of a python 2 module that's working for you, you shouldn't feel obligated to own a separate SRPM

Re: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13

2009-10-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 10/02/2009 02:28 PM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: Since yum is available during build, this would work (but is fugly): - build as normal - push out python2 files to buildroot - after everything else is done, yum remove python-devel yum install python3-devel - build python3 modules

Re: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13

2009-10-02 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: I brought up Debian's parallel install system before (I believe the last time python24 python2 python3 came up) and someone did a quick anaysis and said it wasn't a good idea. Fair enough, just wanted to be sure it

Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-02 Thread Dominic Hopf
Am Freitag, den 02.10.2009, 15:26 + schrieb Matej Cepl: syncevolution -- SyncML client for evolution I would like to maintain this package then. Regards, Dominic -- Dominic Hopf dma...@gmail.com http://dominichopf.de/ Key Fingerprint: A7DF C4FC 07AE 4DDC 5CA0 BD93 AAB0 6019 CA7D 868D

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-10-02 Thread John Poelstra
Kevin Fenzi said the following on 10/02/2009 08:49 AM Pacific Time: On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:35:33 -0700 John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com wrote: ...snip... The current FESCo might also want to consider taking more of a leadership role in monitoring the release processes, tracking the

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen

2009-10-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/03/2009 05:20 AM, John Poelstra wrote: Sounds great to me, but would other members go for it? :) Maybe this is along the lines of the Features SIG that someone suggested a ways back. A important oddness of the feature process is that it is not actually necessary for the feature to be

Re: Switching to Native Upstart Scripts?

2009-10-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/03/2009 12:21 AM, Steve Grubb wrote: On Friday 02 October 2009 02:42:43 pm Bill Nottingham wrote: enforcing dependencies between SysV and upstart scripts - if a package that provides a service that a SysV service depends on (via LSB headers) changes to an upstart script, things go

Re: NFS and slow boot

2009-10-02 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Freitag, den 02.10.2009, 19:39 + schrieb Valent Turkovic: Here you can see the bootchart from freshly built Fedora 11 updated packages: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/184632/bootchart-slow.png I didn't know that akmods are part of a freshly installed Fedora. ;) Regards, Christoph --

Re: F-12 Beta Blocker Meeting 2009-10-02 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT) - Recap

2009-10-02 Thread Dan Williams
On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 14:47 -0400, James Laska wrote: * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526535 (jlaska, 16:17:50) * AGREED: after good discussion around related changes, the group agreed to accept a fix for bug#526535 and several other NM changes that would be good to

Re: Orphaning some packages [Was: Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen]

2009-10-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 14:51:15 -0400, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: - Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: Bugs can include RFEs as well as actual brokeness. I don't think that really buys you anything. And a bad maintainer could just file an RFE for an upgrade and refer to

[Bug 526607] Review Request: openfontlibrary-smonohand-font - A handwritten monospace font

2009-10-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526607 --- Comment #10 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-10-02 01:59:32 EDT --- (In reply to comment #8)

rpms/fonttools/devel fonttools-as.patch, NONE, 1.1 fonttools.spec, 1.18, 1.19 fonttools-uni5.patch, 1.1, NONE

2009-10-02 Thread Caolan McNamara
Author: caolanm Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fonttools/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv32514/devel Modified Files: fonttools.spec Added Files: fonttools-as.patch Removed Files: fonttools-uni5.patch Log Message: Resolves: rhbz#525444 as is a

rpms/fonttools/F-12 fonttools-as.patch, NONE, 1.1 fonttools.spec, 1.18, 1.19 fonttools-uni5.patch, 1.1, NONE

2009-10-02 Thread Caolan McNamara
Author: caolanm Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fonttools/F-12 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv32514/F-12 Modified Files: fonttools.spec Added Files: fonttools-as.patch Removed Files: fonttools-uni5.patch Log Message: Resolves: rhbz#525444 as is a

[Bug 525444] [abrt] crash detected in fonttools-2.2-6.fc12

2009-10-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525444 Caolan McNamara caol...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 461617] modified Sazanami-Gothic font showing vertical text rendering glitches not seen in the original

2009-10-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461617 Caolan McNamara caol...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 526957] New: Fonts are larger than the windows equivalents

2009-10-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: Fonts are larger than the windows equivalents https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526957 Summary: Fonts are larger than the windows equivalents

Re: FAD -- startin' early

2009-10-02 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:28 PM, John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com wrote: Jeffrey Ollie said the following on 09/30/2009 07:12 PM Pacific Time: IIRC that was a 1.6.1.0 release candidate with a bunch of patches backported from trunk.  Time passed and what was trunk then is now a 1.6.2.0

Self Introduction

2009-10-02 Thread Roman Schmitt
Hello everyone, I have been part of this mailing list for a while now and I don't believe I ever got around to introducing myself, so I'm going to. Please keep in mind that I am not a writer, and even if I was, talking about myself would not be my specialty. I was first introduced to Linux

Re: FAD -- startin' early

2009-10-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 09:02:55 -0500, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote: I've got F-11 rpms here: http://jcollie.fedorapeople.org/asterisk-1.6.2/ Thanks! My asterisk machine is currently pinned at F11 because I need dahdi and I have found any prebuilt rpms for F12. (And with the

Emergency Fix (Change freeze)

2009-10-02 Thread Mike McGrath
Had to push this one through before getting a change approval since it was taking all sorts of applications down. I had to do this change, someone had committed a large change to the wiki. the rss feeders were generating a diff of this, when they started to fail they'd retry and BOOM. Load

Re: FAD -- startin' early

2009-10-02 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:52:59PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 04:41:56PM -0700, John Poelstra wrote: Paul W. Frields said the following on 09/25/2009 10:13 AM Pacific Time: I constructed a page on the wiki for an upcoming FAD where some contributors are going to

Re: FAD Fedora Talk tech items

2009-10-02 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 02:11:47PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: Two tech items I wanted to clear up for Fedora Talk FAD: First, qe discussed earlier using softphones for consistency and less equipment-lugging. Didn't hear any votes against so that's all we're planning at this point. It

Introduction

2009-10-02 Thread John Poelstra
Hi, I'm sending this email as an official introduction as part of my request to join the sysadmin group. I'm interested in joining this group so I can delve into more details about the FedoraTalk setup in anticipation of the FAD https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Fedora_Talk_2009 More

Re: Introduction

2009-10-02 Thread Mike McGrath
On Fri, 2 Oct 2009, John Poelstra wrote: Hi, I'm sending this email as an official introduction as part of my request to join the sysadmin group. I'm interested in joining this group so I can delve into more details about the FedoraTalk setup in anticipation of the FAD

f11: Cannot add LDAP directory server to thunderbird-3.0b3

2009-10-02 Thread Joachim Backes
Hi, I tried to add a LDAP directory server to thunderbird-3.0b3, but after having added the server by File-New-LDAP server in the address book window (general and advanced tab) and clicking OK, no ldap server has been added: The server I tried to ADD IS: Hostname: ldap.pca.dfn.de

Re: Printing from Open Office of Fedora 11

2009-10-02 Thread Tim Waugh
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 12:22 -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote: When I tried to print to one of them I got an selinux alert. SELinux is preventing hp (hplip_t) name_bind howl_port_t. Please file a bug report against hplip. It looks like it's trying to perform its own mDNS lookups instead of asking

Re: f11: Cannot add LDAP directory server to thunderbird-3.0b3

2009-10-02 Thread Ed Greshko
Joachim Backes wrote: Hi, I tried to add a LDAP directory server to thunderbird-3.0b3, but after having added the server by File-New-LDAP server in the address book window (general and advanced tab) and clicking OK, no ldap server has been added: The server I tried to ADD IS:

Re: f11: Cannot add LDAP directory server to thunderbird-3.0b3

2009-10-02 Thread Ed Greshko
Ed Greshko wrote: Joachim Backes wrote: Hi, I tried to add a LDAP directory server to thunderbird-3.0b3, but after having added the server by File-New-LDAP server in the address book window (general and advanced tab) and clicking OK, no ldap server has been added: The server I tried

Re: f11: Cannot add LDAP directory server to thunderbird-3.0b3

2009-10-02 Thread Joachim Backes
On 10/02/2009 11:29 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Joachim Backes wrote: Hi, I tried to add a LDAP directory server to thunderbird-3.0b3, but after having added the server by File-New-LDAP server in the address book window (general and advanced tab) and clicking OK, no ldap server

Re: A CPU monitor

2009-10-02 Thread Jay Mistry
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Reid Rivenburgh re...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Jay Mistry jaylinu...@gmail.com wrote: Conky is highly customisable as well, in addition to using less PC resources: http://conky.sourceforge.net/variables.html

Re: Live USB from Live CD image?

2009-10-02 Thread L
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/9/30 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com: Hi, I saw somewhere a tip how to make LiveUSB when booting from LiveCD

Re: fribidi error with abiword on F11

2009-10-02 Thread Globe Trotter
--- On Thu, 10/1/09, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com Subject: Re: fribidi error with abiword on F11 To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 2:35 AM On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:47:43 -0700 (PDT), Globe wrote:

Mock can't build x86_64 packages

2009-10-02 Thread Clodoaldo Neto
Trying to build rpm packages with mock in F11 i386: I can build i386 packages but not x86_64 as I get this: $ mock -r fedora-11-x86_64 mod_wsgi-2.6-1.fc11.src.rpm INFO: mock.py version 0.9.17 starting... State Changed: init plugins State Changed: start INFO: Start(mod_wsgi-2.6-1.fc11.src.rpm)

Re: Mock can't build x86_64 packages

2009-10-02 Thread Todd Zullinger
Clodoaldo Neto wrote: Trying to build rpm packages with mock in F11 i386: I can build i386 packages but not x86_64 as I get this: You can't build for x86_64 on i386. Doing it the other way around works fine though. -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp

thunderbird 3b4 accounts problem

2009-10-02 Thread brian
I've just installed TB3b4 (because 3b3 was driving me nuts). I use IMAP, so on startup, it proceeded to download everything (although I'm pretty sure 3b3 had already done that). Unfortunately, it appears to have screwed things up. I have several accounts; they're all listed on the left side,

Re: thunderbird 3b4 accounts problem

2009-10-02 Thread Luc MAIGNAN
Hi, At the top of your mail folders, you have two little arrows. Using them allows you to change the look of your accounts and permit you to go back to an inbox per account Regards Le 02/10/09 16:59, brian a écrit : I've just installed TB3b4 (because 3b3 was driving me nuts). I use IMAP,

Re: thunderbird 3b4 accounts problem

2009-10-02 Thread brian
On 10/02/2009 10:59 AM, brian wrote: I've just installed TB3b4 (because 3b3 was driving me nuts). I use IMAP, so on startup, it proceeded to download everything (although I'm pretty sure 3b3 had already done that). Unfortunately, it appears to have screwed things up. I have several accounts;

Re: thunderbird 3b4 accounts problem

2009-10-02 Thread brian
On 10/02/2009 11:13 AM, Luc MAIGNAN wrote: Hi, At the top of your mail folders, you have two little arrows. Using them allows you to change the look of your accounts and permit you to go back to an inbox per account Thanks, I just found them. It seems a bad idea to make Smart Folders the

Re: thunderbird 3b4 accounts problem

2009-10-02 Thread Michael Cronenworth
brian wrote: Never mind. I found the (very tiny, unlabelled) arrows next to where it read Smart Folders. Clicking those changes the view to Unread Folders, Recent Folders, etc. Eventually, I got it back to All Folders. That was a bit disturbing, to say the least. Another thing I noticed

Re: thunderbird 3b4 accounts problem

2009-10-02 Thread Steven Stern
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/02/2009 10:08 AM, brian wrote: On 10/02/2009 10:59 AM, brian wrote: I've just installed TB3b4 (because 3b3 was driving me nuts). I use IMAP, so on startup, it proceeded to download everything (although I'm pretty sure 3b3 had already done

Re: thunderbird 3b4 accounts problem

2009-10-02 Thread brian
On 10/02/2009 11:19 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: brian wrote: Never mind. I found the (very tiny, unlabelled) arrows next to where it read Smart Folders. Clicking those changes the view to Unread Folders, Recent Folders, etc. Eventually, I got it back to All Folders. That was a bit

Re: Router in Fedora. Alternative to Mikrotik

2009-10-02 Thread Fabio Jara
Hello again, After some research about what Peter said i realize that your looking about the hardware of mikrotik, i was asking about the ROUTER OS that they use con that hardware. Something that can do the same, without editing and configuring all those services one by one. I already have a

Re: Questionable Status

2009-10-02 Thread Robin Laing
Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-10-01 09:09:40, Robin Laing wrote: Tony Nelson wrote: On 09-09-23 09:29:56, Gene Poole wrote: I've very recently upgraded 2 of my machines. One machine was Will the `smartctl -o on /dev/sdx` (for each sdx), fix the nonzero Reallocated_Event_Count issue on RAID

Re: Advice for crossgrading from 32 bit F11 to x64 ?

2009-10-02 Thread Robin Laing
Linuxguy123 wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 19:29 -0700, Kam Leo wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: I do a lot of photo processing... things like generating 200 jpgs from raw files at one go. My laptop has 4GB of RAM but is currently only using 3GB

Re: How do I change from a regular kernel to a PAE kernel ?

2009-10-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 13:30:06 +0530, Suresh Danda ds.r...@gmail.com wrote: *But Exact my question is why its is detecting IDE hard disk as sda...?* Around Fedora 7 the driver for handling PATA disks changed to libata, which uses sd names for devices. If you really need hd names, there

Re: A CPU monitor

2009-10-02 Thread Reid Rivenburgh
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Jay Mistry jaylinu...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Reid Rivenburgh re...@pobox.com wrote: Do you know if there's any way to integrate conky into a gnome panel?  That would be ideal.  I guess I could probably fiddle with the height of the

RE: ibus still broken

2009-10-02 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 11:26 -0600, Stuart McGraw wrote: In retrospect it did sound a little pissy -- chalk it up to a high level of frustration. But I have to honestly say that I have more commitment to using a system that meets my needs than to FOSS political correctness. If you want a

Re: Live USB from Live CD image?

2009-10-02 Thread Germán Racca
On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 22:19 +1000, L wrote: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/9/30 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com: Hi, I saw somewhere

Re: Live USB from Live CD image?

2009-10-02 Thread Paul
Germán Racca wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 22:19 +1000, L wrote: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/9/30 Valent Turkovic

Re: Mock can't build x86_64 packages

2009-10-02 Thread Clodoaldo Neto
2009/10/2 Todd Zullinger t...@pobox.com: Clodoaldo Neto wrote: Trying to build rpm packages with mock in F11 i386: I can build i386 packages but not x86_64 as I get this: You can't build for x86_64 on i386.  Doing it the other way around works fine though. Ok. Thanks. Clodoaldo --

liveusb-creator error

2009-10-02 Thread Steven Stern
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What does this error mean? The files seem to be happily copied onto my USB key, but f12.iso selected Verifying filesystem... Verifying ISO MD5 checksum ISO MD5 checksum passed Extracting live image to USB device... Wrote to device at 9 MB/sec

Re: Advice for crossgrading from 32 bit F11 to x64 ?

2009-10-02 Thread Paul
Robin Laing wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 19:29 -0700, Kam Leo wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: I do a lot of photo processing... things like generating 200 jpgs from raw files at one go. My laptop has 4GB of RAM but is

Re: Simple desktop benchmark

2009-10-02 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:31:29 -0700, Dave Stevens wrote: you might want to look at www.phoronix.com; they are doing a lot with their phoronix test suite. Caveat emptor! meaningful testing results require meaningful effort. I tested it after yum install phoronix-test-suite :) Phoronix test

Re: libflashplayer downloaded to memory?

2009-10-02 Thread gilpel
gil...@altern.org wrote: You can also check Edit--Preferences and look in Main to see where FF will store downloaded files. I like to tell FF to Ask but some like the default settings. The default is Download. I had checked it and libflashplayer.whatever.tar.gz is not there. As I said,

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