networkmanger fails in network config on boot rescue

2009-10-26 Thread Sergio Monteiro Basto
Hi, newest Fedora 11 , build with pungi , when I select a installation from url, netwokmanager always fails to get IP . its a nic , and try to run wpasupplicant !? How I tell on grub to not use networkmanger and use the service network ? I need to use dhcp reading this ML some one suggest

Re: Fedora 12 Beta

2009-10-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/26/2009 09:08 AM, Jud Craft wrote: On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 3:19 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Yes. Development releases of Fedora have a large number of debugging stuff enabled. I really can't tell if you're joking. No joke. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelDebugStrategy Rahul --

Re: The future of rawhide (was [Fwd: Re: What is the Fedora Project?])

2009-10-26 Thread Ismael Olea
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: Just wanted to add my +1 and this is as good place as any other. +1 -- Ismael Olea http://olea.org/diario/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

rawhide report: 20091026 changes

2009-10-26 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Oct 26 06:15:07 UTC 2009 Broken deps for ppc64 -- python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot Summary: Added Packages: 0 Removed Packages: 0 Modified Packages: 0 --

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/26/2009 07:03 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 21:05 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: LLVM 2.6 has been announced with Clang declared as production quality in this release http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvm-announce/2009-October/33.html Has anyone been looking into

Re: Rawhide install nfs fails

2009-10-26 Thread Steve Dickson
On 10/24/2009 02:15 PM, Mike Chambers wrote: I mirror rawhide on a F11 box, that I normally nfs mount from a rawhide running system. Tried to do an nfs based install from rawhide 2 days ago and it failed, but installing via http from outside source (I don't have http setup on the box) worked.

Howto build a static apcupsd package ?

2009-10-26 Thread Kevin Verma
Hi All, I am trying to build a static rpm of apcupsd but its failing with errors on pastebin (http://pastebin.com/f101eee52) Can someone please suggest if something more needs to be done to successfully compile apcupd as static ? SRPM of patch of makefile is on

Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-26 Thread Steve Dickson
[With the next nfs-utils rawhide build, I will be flipping the ] [switch that will cause all NFS client mounts to try NFS v4 first ] [At the bottom of this email has the workarounds if this change does ] [indeed cause pain ] As part of the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NFSv4Default

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/26/2009 08:15 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 19:07 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 10/26/2009 07:03 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 21:05 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Has anyone been looking into building Fedora with it to see how the performance impact is?

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 20:13 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 10/26/2009 08:15 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 19:07 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 10/26/2009 07:03 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 21:05 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: I meant performance, primarily

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Peter Jones
On 10/26/2009 10:51 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 20:13 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 10/26/2009 08:15 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 19:07 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 10/26/2009 07:03 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 21:05 +0530, Rahul

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/26/2009 08:21 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: Which affects who? koji certainly seems to be keeping up with the load. What I'm trying to pry out of you is what you'd be hoping to accomplish by using it. The answer so far seems to be I'd spend less time building things, at the cost of some

Re: Action Tags concept

2009-10-26 Thread Martin Bacovsky
On Friday 23 October 2009 20:17:12 Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 08:03:02PM +0200, Martin Bacovsky wrote: On Friday 23 October 2009 17:51:16 you wrote: On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 04:46:36PM +0200, Martin Bacovsky wrote: On Thursday 22 October 2009 16:33:06 you wrote: I

Re: new tool: rpmguard - print important differences between RPMs

2009-10-26 Thread Kamil Paral
- Alexey Torkhov atork...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 06:56 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: I have created a simple tool called rpmguard for checking differences between RPM packages. It is very similar to rpmdiff, but it prints only important changes, not all. Therefore it can

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Peter Jones
On 10/26/2009 10:51 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 10/26/2009 08:21 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: Which affects who? koji certainly seems to be keeping up with the load. What I'm trying to pry out of you is what you'd be hoping to accomplish by using it. The answer so far seems to be I'd spend

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/26/2009 08:39 PM, Peter Jones wrote: This is just myopia, though. In isolation, yes, faster builds are nice. But if the faster builds result in poorer quality, then no, they're not a benefit. Sure. Nobody claimed otherwise. We don't know the cost unless we try. Doing a scratch build

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Jeff Garzik
On 10/26/2009 10:45 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 19:07 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 10/26/2009 07:03 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 21:05 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Has anyone been looking into building Fedora with it to see how the performance impact is?

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 20:21 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 10/26/2009 08:21 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: Which affects who? koji certainly seems to be keeping up with the load. What I'm trying to pry out of you is what you'd be hoping to accomplish by using it. The answer so far seems to

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 08:21:09PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 10/26/2009 08:21 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: Which affects who? koji certainly seems to be keeping up with the load. What I'm trying to pry out of you is what you'd be hoping to accomplish by using it. The answer so far seems

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/26/2009 08:45 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: Please don't put words in my mouth, I did not say never try at all. I said that spending less time building things is only an obvious benefit if we don't lose real functionality, and don't waste time placating the compiler to get things to build.

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Rik van Riel
On 10/26/2009 11:07 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 10/26/2009 08:39 PM, Peter Jones wrote: This is just myopia, though. In isolation, yes, faster builds are nice. But if the faster builds result in poorer quality, then no, they're not a benefit. Sure. Nobody claimed otherwise. We don't

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Peter Jones
On 10/26/2009 11:22 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 10/26/2009 08:45 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: Please don't put words in my mouth, I did not say never try at all. I said that spending less time building things is only an obvious benefit if we don't lose real functionality, and don't waste time

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/26/2009 09:07 PM, Peter Jones wrote: Well, why not? I am not curious enough to volunteer to do anything with it myself but would be interested in hearing about the experiences of anyone who has already done so. If you haven't, feel free to ignore my mail. Pretty simple, really. Rahul --

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:54:46AM -0400, Peter Jones wrote: Well, that plus your already voiced complaint about its dwarf generation, which is to say that any fairly immediate adoption would also make normal development and debugging more painful. It is not just about horrible dwarf

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-26 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com writes: [With the next nfs-utils rawhide build, I will be flipping the ] [switch that will cause all NFS client mounts to try NFS v4 first ] [...] Is this really first or rather only? Was there a conclusion about whether the nfs client code would be changed to

Re: Unreadable binaries

2009-10-26 Thread Ikem Krueger
I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal binary style ELF binaries for Linux, and I thought that this would be something to watch, so that Fedora could integrate both x86-32 and x86-64 into single DVD sets. I don't suggest to do that. As already mentioned, that would double

Re: Unreadable binaries

2009-10-26 Thread Ikem Krueger
Sorry. Wrong mail. ^^' -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

2009-10-26 Thread Ikem Krueger
I just saw this article about an effort to create Universal binary style ELF binaries for Linux, and I thought that this would be something to watch, so that Fedora could integrate both x86-32 and x86-64 into single DVD sets. I don't suggest to do that. As already mentioned, that would double

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jud Craft wrote: I'm not sure I understand. How can LLVM-C be ABI-incompatible with plain GCC-C? It's the ABI of: llvm-g++ → LLVM → LLVM C backend → gcc or: Clang (C++) → LLVM → LLVM C backend → gcc which is incompatible with the ABI of plain g++. AFAICT, the native LLVM backends don't have

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-26 Thread Tom Lane
Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com writes: Because the mount command will try NFS v4 first, mounts to older Linux servers will start failing like: What happens with a mount to a UDP-only server? (or actually /net automount is what I care about...) regards, tom lane --

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jakub Jelinek wrote: It is not just about horrible dwarf generation, the performance of LLVM generated code is worse than GCC, you can forget about all the security enhancements GCC has added in the last 10 years (say __builtin_object_size is parsed by clang/llvm, but always says it doesn't

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-26 Thread Ralf Ertzinger
Hi. On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:39:07 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com writes: Because the mount command will try NFS v4 first, mounts to older Linux servers will start failing like: What happens with a mount to a UDP-only server? (or actually /net automount is what I

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-26 Thread Steve Dickson
On 10/26/2009 12:06 PM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com writes: [With the next nfs-utils rawhide build, I will be flipping the ] [switch that will cause all NFS client mounts to try NFS v4 first ] [...] Is this really first or rather only? Was there a conclusion

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-26 Thread Steve Dickson
On 10/26/2009 12:39 PM, Tom Lane wrote: Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com writes: Because the mount command will try NFS v4 first, mounts to older Linux servers will start failing like: What happens with a mount to a UDP-only server? (or actually /net automount is what I care about...)

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-26 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com writes: On 10/26/2009 12:06 PM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: Is this really first or rather only? Was there a conclusion about whether the nfs client code would be changed to fall back from v4 to v3 automatically? It meant first... [...] The problem comes in when

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-26 Thread Roland McGrath
At the least, there ought to be an F-11 update of whatever server-side stuff needs to change (in the minimal way not touching non-v4 uses) to make v4 exports work without temporary configuration hacks. IMHO if you can't do anything better, you should make F-11 default to not registering as a v4

Including windows-binary files for cross compiling into package

2009-10-26 Thread Joost van der Sluis
Hi all, fpc is a pascal-compiler which is able to cross-compile to other architectures. Nothing really special, but it is also able to cross-compile to windows, without any dependencies. I've created a sub-package of the fpc package to make cross-compiling to windows possible. This package only

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-26 Thread Steve Dickson
On 10/26/2009 01:34 PM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com writes: On 10/26/2009 12:06 PM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: Is this really first or rather only? Was there a conclusion about whether the nfs client code would be changed to fall back from v4 to v3 automatically?

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-26 Thread Steve Dickson
On 10/26/2009 01:40 PM, Roland McGrath wrote: At the least, there ought to be an F-11 update of whatever server-side stuff needs to change (in the minimal way not touching non-v4 uses) to make v4 exports work without temporary configuration hacks. IMHO if you can't do anything better, you

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-26 Thread Roland McGrath
That is one of the valid options, but I would think it would better if the server owner did that tweak, than an nfs-utils update, no? I'm not suggesting that you do an update that just tweaks config files in %post or anything like that. I'm suggesting you make the out-of-the-box behavior with

Re: Including windows-binary files for cross compiling into package

2009-10-26 Thread Roland McGrath
If it's true cross support, then that should be a noarch package and the file names it uses should not depend on %{_lib} that way. Arguably it even belongs in %{_sharedir}, since it is fixed binary content across all host machines. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Including windows-binary files for cross compiling into package

2009-10-26 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 11:15 -0700, Roland McGrath wrote: If it's true cross support, then that should be a noarch package and the file names it uses should not depend on %{_lib} that way. Arguably it even belongs in %{_sharedir}, since it is fixed binary content across all host machines.

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-26 Thread Steve Dickson
On 10/26/2009 02:11 PM, Roland McGrath wrote: That is one of the valid options, but I would think it would better if the server owner did that tweak, than an nfs-utils update, no? I'm not suggesting that you do an update that just tweaks config files in %post or anything like that. I'm

Fedora Release Engineering meeting summary for 2009-10-26

2009-10-26 Thread Jesse Keating
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-10-26/fedora-releng.2009-10-26-18.04.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-10-26/fedora-releng.2009-10-26-18.04.txt Log:

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

2009-10-26 Thread King InuYasha
Well, possibly the only thing fatELF would be needed for would be to rid ourselves of multilib. Applications don't even need to be FatELF to link to FatELF libraries. On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Ikem Krueger ikem.krue...@googlemail.comwrote: I just saw this article about an effort to

Re: Fedora with Universal Binaries?

2009-10-26 Thread Peter Jones
On 10/22/2009 10:22 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Sam Varshavchik wrote: 32 bits will be here for a long, long time, of course At most 29 years. 32-bit GNU/Linux doesn't support dates beyond 2038. This only actually means we've got 29 years to extend time_t . -- Peter All parts should

Re: Including windows-binary files for cross compiling into package

2009-10-26 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Joost van der Sluis on 10/26/2009 01:42 PM wrote: Those files are not architecture independent. They are somewhat similar to .o files. They contain the run time library for the language, compiled to native windows object files. If you want to compile your own program with them afterwards,

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-26 Thread Ewan Mac Mahon
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 02:06:45PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: On 10/26/2009 01:34 PM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com writes: On 10/26/2009 12:06 PM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: Unfortunately, this sounds like only. Is it out of the question to make the client

Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-26 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com writes: [...] Unfortunately, this sounds like only. Is it out of the question to make the client look for this case (an upgraded client in an existing unupgraded, unchanged network) and handle it? We talked about it... See [...] But in the end, I decided

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Jud Craft
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: AFAICT, the native LLVM backends don't have that problem. The real problem with C++ is that Clang's C++ support is experimental and incomplete, so you're stuck with llvm-g++. I thought that C doesn't have any crazy name or symbol or

Re: Including windows-binary files for cross compiling into package

2009-10-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Joost van der Sluis wrote: Those files are not architecture independent. They are independent of the host architecture, they only depend on the target architecture. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12

2009-10-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 09:39 +0200, Jerome Glisse wrote: I've installed F-12 beta on my new laptop with ati radeon hd 4570 graphic card, I was going to file new bug. With kms enabled, everything is really slw, with 'nomodeset' it's much faster. I can't say exactly how slow it

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

2009-10-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 09:28 +0100, Steven Whitehouse wrote: way to deal with this issue, the simplest solution would be to have a word with someone in HC and ask them to add to their standard list of Note for non-RH'ers: HC = Human Capital, what most places call Human Resources. (personally

Re: Simplify non-responsive maintainers policy Part 2

2009-10-26 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 09:28 +0100, Steven Whitehouse wrote: way to deal with this issue, the simplest solution would be to have a word with someone in HC and ask them to add to their standard list of Note for non-RH'ers: HC = Human Capital, what

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 11:36 -0400, Rik van Riel wrote: I was asking if anybody has already tried that. Don't understand the argument against it yet. If you had tried a project like this in the past, you would understand the reasons against it. If you do not understand those reasons

Test please disregard

2009-10-26 Thread Adam Miller
Setup my fp.org email recently and now testing sending to the list from my myTouch. -Adam (From Android) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

[Bug 530518] [ne_NP] Remove unnecessary characters from font file

2009-10-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530518 Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 530853] [abrt] crash detected in fontforge-20090622-2.fc12

2009-10-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530853 --- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-10-26 02:46:07 EDT --- I did this before generating

[Bug 529637] fontconfig suggests Lohit Gujarati when requesting a font that supports '1', but Lohit Gujarati doesn't have that glyph

2009-10-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529637 A S Alam aa...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 529637] [gu_IN]fontconfig suggests Lohit Gujarati when requesting a font that supports '1', but Lohit Gujarati doesn't have that glyph

2009-10-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529637 A S Alam aa...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 530190] Review Request: gdouros-aegyptus-fonts - A font for Egyptian hieroglyphs

2009-10-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530190 Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 529637] [gu_IN]fontconfig suggests Lohit Gujarati when requesting a font that supports '1', but Lohit Gujarati doesn't have that glyph

2009-10-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529637 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 531105] New: Useless font auto-installer calls

2009-10-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: Useless font auto-installer calls https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531105 Summary: Useless font auto-installer calls Product: Fedora

[Bug 531105] Useless font auto-installer calls

2009-10-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531105 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 531105] Useless font auto-installer calls

2009-10-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531105 --- Comment #2 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-10-26 18:35:46 EDT --- (In reply to comment #1) (In

[Issue 105631] IPA PGothic,IPA PMincho font can't be printed

2009-10-26 Thread maho
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=105631 User maho changed the following: What|Old value |New value

[Bug 529594] [CJK] pango uses different fonts for LATIN and COMMON glyphs

2009-10-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529594 --- Comment #24 from fujiwara tfuji...@redhat.com 2009-10-26 22:25:55 EDT --- Created an attachment (id=366194) --

[Bug 529637] [gu_IN]fontconfig suggests Lohit Gujarati when requesting a font that supports '1', but Lohit Gujarati doesn't have that glyph

2009-10-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529637 Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 530085] [or_IN] - window titles appearing with Underline for default Oriya Lohit Font

2009-10-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530085 Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 530085] [or_IN] window titlebar has horizontal line

2009-10-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530085 Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

Re: Suitability of Python for daemon processes

2009-10-26 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 06:46:05PM -0400, Ben Boeckel wrote: Seeing as it is a mirroring daemon, the network is the bottleneck. If it isn't then either you're sitting next door, our implementation is bad, or the hardware shouldn't be a mirror in the first place. Speaking from experience,

Re: Suitability of Python for daemon processes

2009-10-26 Thread Mike McGrath
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 06:46:05PM -0400, Ben Boeckel wrote: Seeing as it is a mirroring daemon, the network is the bottleneck. If it isn't then either you're sitting next door, our implementation is bad, or the hardware shouldn't be a mirror

Mass update to RHEL-5.4

2009-10-26 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
Since the last mass update, we have had RHEL-5.4 and a bunch of security updates come out... so its time to do another mass update before the Fedora-12 freeze. Here is an updated list of systems and in the order they should be updated. Due to updates in xen we should update the xen servers also.

Re: Suitability of Python for daemon processes

2009-10-26 Thread Ben Boeckel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Mike McGrath wrote: On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 06:46:05PM -0400, Ben Boeckel wrote: Seeing as it is a mirroring daemon, the network is the bottleneck. If it isn't then either you're sitting next

Re: Suitability of Python for daemon processes

2009-10-26 Thread Ben Boeckel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Chuck Anderson wrote: On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 06:46:05PM -0400, Ben Boeckel wrote: Seeing as it is a mirroring daemon, the network is the bottleneck. If it isn't then either you're sitting next door, our implementation is bad, or the

Introduction

2009-10-26 Thread Abiel Mogos
Hello guys, I am Abiel Mogos, new to the Fedora infrastructure-list and looking forward to contribute to the Fedora Project. I am a student in Fairfield (GMT-5), Iowa, studying Masters in computer science. Though its not consistent, I have used Fedora Core for about 4 years. I have worked on a

Re: Fedora 12 Beta now available! Rawhide, Alpha, Beta, released

2009-10-26 Thread Philip Rhoades
People, On 2009-10-21 00:56, Jesse Keating wrote: Fedora is a leading edge, free and open source operating system that continues to deliver innovative features to many users, with a new release every six months. We have reached the Fedora 12 Beta, the last important development milestone of

Re: Maple13 and Fedora 11

2009-10-26 Thread Mike Cloaked
Bugzilla from rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote: mike cloaked wrote: Since I have to use Maple 13 at work I installed it in my F11 machine - it worked for everything I tested, but refused to print (not printers came up in the printing dialogue). It turned out that this is due to the embedded

Fedora 11, amavisd-new, clamscan and Thunderbird 3.0b4

2009-10-26 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
My clamdrib (TB extension) has stopped working despite changing instsll.rdf So how can I setup amavisd-new\clamav for use with TB. Most of the googling bring up refrences to user:clamav. http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/clamav-redhat-amavis.html I have users clamscan and clamupdate. What

Re: SSH and X forwarding not working from my laptop

2009-10-26 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Friday 28 August 2009 09:26:09 Gary Stainburn wrote: Interestingly, I am back on the 1st site again today and the problem has recurred and seems to be a solid fault I have done a clean install of FC11 (was FC10 before) and the same problem occurs on one site (the one I'm on now). I linked

Re: New scanner/printer combo

2009-10-26 Thread Tim Waugh
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 13:14 -0500, Robert Nichols wrote: You can go to http://hplipopensource.com/ (aka hplip.net), click on Supported Printers, and see if the model you are considering is one of the 1,924 currently supported by hplip. Also: make sure (and double-check!) the the model you are

Re: SSH and X forwarding not working from my laptop

2009-10-26 Thread Gary Stainburn
Anyone got any ideas? Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding. tcsetattr: Interrupted system call Last login: Mon Oct 26 09:36:21 2009 from dcomp5.ringways.co.uk * * * THIS

unused partition space after clonezilla move?

2009-10-26 Thread Christoph Höger
Hi, I have just moved my fedora to a newer, more power saving, larger and faster disk. I made up new Partitions (bigger than the old ones) and used clonezilla for the move. This worked pretty well except for the partition space: I have now e.g. 205GB unused space on my /home partition. How do

Measure power consumption?

2009-10-26 Thread Aioanei Rares
Hi all, Was wondering if any of you know about a tool to measure the number of watts drained by a machine. Trying to make my machine as power-efficient as can be. Thanks in advance. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: compiling modules - HighPoint RAID controller

2009-10-26 Thread Alan Cox
The module rr232x.ko exists after an attempted compile, but after chmod +x, modprobe rr232x.ko has FATAL errors stating that it is not a module. ? - anyone I would suggest you ask the vendor for support presumably they can make the stuff they shipped work. You can build modules out of tree

Fan control / thermal management on M3A770

2009-10-26 Thread Christoph Höger
Hi, I've had to buy a new MoBo (ASRock M3A770) and now I cannot see temperatures, fan speeds or any other things. pwmconfig states that it has no sensors found (but the sensor applet shows all sensors I know of without any values). Is there some kind of special kernel module one has to load or

Re: Qemu vs VMWare

2009-10-26 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 25 October 2009 21:57:18 David Timms wrote: On 10/26/2009 08:05 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: I wish to share my first hands-on experience with qemu, compare it to vmware player For comparison, try yum install akmod-VirtualBox-OSE from rpm fusion. I will, eventually. That is the

Re: Measure power consumption?

2009-10-26 Thread Jatin K
On 10/26/2009 04:32 PM, Aioanei Rares wrote: Hi all, Was wondering if any of you know about a tool to measure the number of watts drained by a machine. Trying to make my machine as power-efficient as can be. Thanks in advance. you need ampere meter [1] ..connect it in series[2] with your

Re: Measure power consumption?

2009-10-26 Thread Joerg Bergmann
Am Montag, den 26.10.2009, 16:57 +0530 schrieb Jatin K: On 10/26/2009 04:32 PM, Aioanei Rares wrote: Hi all, Was wondering if any of you know about a tool to measure the number of watts drained by a machine. Trying to make my machine as power-efficient as can be. Thanks in

Re: Measure power consumption?

2009-10-26 Thread Aioanei Rares
On 10/26/2009 01:26 PM, Joerg Bergmann wrote: Am Montag, den 26.10.2009, 16:57 +0530 schrieb Jatin K: On 10/26/2009 04:32 PM, Aioanei Rares wrote: Hi all, Was wondering if any of you know about a tool to measure the number of watts drained by a machine. Trying to make my machine as

Re: Qemu vs VMWare

2009-10-26 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 25 October 2009 22:20:33 Sam Sharpe wrote: How did you install your virtual machines, I opened Virtual Machine Manager from the menu (F10 64bit, KDE, fully updated), and created a guest using the wizard that appeared. I was nicely surprised with the user-friendliness. Of course,

Re: Qemu vs VMWare

2009-10-26 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 26 October 2009 04:15:34 Tony Nelson wrote: The way recommended by QEMU developers is to use KVM, purchasing new hardware that supports KVM if necessary, in which case you won't need to use much of QEMU. Right, but my idea of having a virtual machine in the first place is to avoid

Re: How to tell IP address of remote machine?

2009-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 03:36 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: My college has set up mailman so that list-owners (and I presume anyone else) has to post email from within the college system. I would prefer to send email from home, where I can use KMail, although it is very little trouble to ssh

Re: Qemu vs VMWare

2009-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 12:12 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: unless your VM needs access to your actual USB devices or needs to be controlled remotely, as those features are not open source. Well, now... It would be nice to be able to use usb, bluetooth, and such. One of my main use cases

Re: unused partition space after clonezilla move?

2009-10-26 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 11:59 +0100, Christoph Höger wrote: I made up new Partitions (bigger than the old ones) and used clonezilla for the move. This worked pretty well except for the partition space: I have now e.g. 205GB unused space on my /home partition. Yeah, I'd expect using a clone

Re: Measure power consumption?

2009-10-26 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Aioanei Rares wrote: Hi all, Was wondering if any of you know about a tool to measure the number of watts drained by a machine. Trying to make my machine as power-efficient as can be. Thanks in advance. Buy a 'Kill-a-Watt'. Prices vary from $20-$35. Great tool, I have had mine for

Re: unused partition space after clonezilla move?

2009-10-26 Thread Brian Millett
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 11:59 +0100, Christoph Höger wrote: Hi, I have just moved my fedora to a newer, more power saving, larger and faster disk. I made up new Partitions (bigger than the old ones) and used clonezilla for the move. This worked pretty well except for the partition space:

Re: Fedora 10 auto mounting

2009-10-26 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 16:51 -0400, Ryan Lynch wrote: On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 16:41, Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 12:28 -0500, Rod Rook wrote: Is there any way I can configure Fedora 10 to mount not all but certain hard drives automatically? There

Re: How to tell IP address of remote machine?

2009-10-26 Thread Rick Sewill
I don't know if it will be useful, but have you considered using STUN software to get the IP address? There is a package, libnice, which contains a program, /usr/bin/stunbdc You need to select a public stun server, perhaps from the list at URL http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/STUN Please

Re: How to tell IP address of remote machine?

2009-10-26 Thread Timothy Murphy
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: My college has set up mailman so that list-owners (and I presume anyone else) has to post email from within the college system. I would prefer to send email from home, where I can use KMail, although it is very little trouble to ssh into my college account, and

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