Re: Signing RPMs

2009-11-12 Thread Steve Traylen
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Jitesh Shah jite...@marvell.com wrote: ..snip.. I to have wanted to get this to work. I expect I have my key definition wrong, traceback below. I have,         self.gpg_keys = {             '89D891FB': { 'name': 'oatrelease',                          

Re: mock-0.9.19 on CentOS5/RHEL5

2009-11-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 11/12/2009 06:40 AM, Florian La Roche wrote: Hello, if you want to run the newest version of mock (0.9.19) with RHEL5/CentOS5, you can use a backported version from: Have you done any tests to see how the output changes from what we have in extras/ now ? Are these test results public

Re: Signing RPMs

2009-11-12 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 09:38 +0100, Steve Traylen wrote: The full edited script is here http://cern.ch/steve.traylen/tmp/oat-sign_unsigned.py is there something else I need to change? The traceback is looking in the dict of your key for a size, as gpg keys can come in many sizes and

Re: [Fedora-cs-list] Překlad Fedora Project

2009-11-12 Thread Milos Jakubicek
On 12.11.2009 08:50, Adam Pribyl wrote: Domnívám se, že zakopaný pes je v tom, že někteří z nás se na tento problém koukají z pohledu vědeckého (nebo vědeckého pohledu?). Zdá se dokonce jao profesionální lingvista (aspon tak to na mě působí), zatímco jiní z pohledu jazykových laiků, kteří

Re: cpio to ext4 seems much slower than to ext2, ext3 or xfs

2009-11-12 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:05:20PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 01:24:20PM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote: Anybody got actual numbers? I don't disagree that mkfs.ext4 is slow in the default config, but I don't think it should be slower than mkfs.ext3 for the same

Re: cpio to ext4 seems much slower than to ext2, ext3 or xfs

2009-11-12 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:18:15AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: [...] done --- line break here ext2 elapsed time: 3.48 seconds Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones libguestfs lets you edit virtual machines. Supports shell scripting,

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-12 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 07:42 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le jeudi 12 novembre 2009 à 06:51 +0200, Gilboa Davara a écrit : I own both icewm and idesk. As far as I know, both icewm and idesk are linked against xft and should not default to core fonts. (Unless I completely misunderstanding

rawhide report: 20091112 changes

2009-11-12 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu Nov 12 08:15:08 UTC 2009 Summary: Added Packages: 0 Removed Packages: 0 Modified Packages: 0 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: FF 3.5.5 for F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:48:53AM +1100, Bojan Smojver wrote: What happened to that? It's been built in Koji but it's not Rawhide or updates... It's there now. It will be included in the next push. josh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-12 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 02:53:00PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: The right person to ask this would be Behdad, as he's the Fedora/Red Hat/upstream maintainer of most core components of our current text stack. IIRC his advice last time I asked the question was to avoid accessing fontconfig

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-12 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 02:42:12PM +0100, Patrice Dumas wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 02:53:00PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: The right person to ask this would be Behdad, as he's the Fedora/Red Hat/upstream maintainer of most core components of our current text stack. IIRC his advice

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-12 Thread Andreas Schwab
Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: Therefore, I'd like to identify remaining core font users, and remind them periodically their core font use is not good for their users or for Fedora. What's wrong with proving support for core fonts as a fallback? That's what Emacs is

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-12 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 14:59 +0100, Andreas Schwab wrote: Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: Therefore, I'd like to identify remaining core font users, and remind them periodically their core font use is not good for their users or for Fedora. What's wrong with proving

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-12 Thread Andreas Schwab
Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com writes: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 14:59 +0100, Andreas Schwab wrote: Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: Therefore, I'd like to identify remaining core font users, and remind them periodically their core font use is not good for their users or for

Re: cpio to ext4 seems much slower than to ext2, ext3 or xfs

2009-11-12 Thread Dennis J.
On 11/12/2009 04:03 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote: Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 09:54:12AM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:05:20PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 01:24:20PM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote: Anybody got actual

Re: cpio to ext4 seems much slower than to ext2, ext3 or xfs

2009-11-12 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 09:03:02AM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote: so here we have ext4 slightly faster, which was the original question... ;) (dropping caches in between might be best, too...) It starts a whole new VM between each test. Until users have 8TB raids at home, which is not really

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-12 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 16:00 +0100, Andreas Schwab wrote: Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com writes: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 14:59 +0100, Andreas Schwab wrote: Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: Therefore, I'd like to identify remaining core font users, and remind them

Re: netcdf update and soname bump

2009-11-12 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 11/11/2009 04:38 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 11/11/2009 10:17 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote: I'm about to build a netcdf 4.1.0 beta snapshot for F-13. This is a soname bump (libnetcdf.so.4 - libnetcdf.so.6). It also enables the netcdf4, dap, and ncgen4 features of netcdf. There are some

Re: cpio to ext4 seems much slower than to ext2, ext3 or xfs

2009-11-12 Thread Eric Sandeen
Dennis J. wrote: On 11/12/2009 04:03 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote: Richard W.M. Jones wrote: ... I'd like to repeat my proviso: I think this test is meaningless for most users. Until users have 8TB raids at home, which is not really that far off ... Let's hope btrfs is production ready before

abrt / kernel oops issue

2009-11-12 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
Hello, I've been running F12/rawhide from a preupgrade from F11 for a couple weeks now. I've just recently noticed the abrt feature. I started submitting the bugs it found in the kerneloops. Which has me wondering couple things. #1 - I have many many kerneloops, each stacktrace/log

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-12 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 01:49:34PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Behdad's advice to me was to use Xft to replace raw X*Font calls in the example I gave: http://caml.inria.fr/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ocaml/trunk/otherlibs/graph/text.c?rev=6171view=markup This is the patch I submitted upstream:

Re: abrt / kernel oops issue

2009-11-12 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 10:31 -0700, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: Hello, I've been running F12/rawhide from a preupgrade from F11 for a couple weeks now. I've just recently noticed the abrt feature. I started submitting the bugs it found in the kerneloops. Which has me wondering couple

Re: abrt / kernel oops issue

2009-11-12 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On 11/12/2009 10:50 AM, Dan Williams wrote: If you have an oops or BUG of any sort, I think that sets the taint flag for further oops reports, because after the first one you can't really trust that the stacktrace or internal kernel structures aren't corrupted. Most of the time they aren't,

Re: cpio to ext4 seems much slower than to ext2, ext3 or xfs

2009-11-12 Thread Dennis J.
On 11/12/2009 05:59 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote: Dennis J. wrote: On 11/12/2009 04:03 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote: Richard W.M. Jones wrote: ... I'd like to repeat my proviso: I think this test is meaningless for most users. Until users have 8TB raids at home, which is not really that far off ...

id3lib stack smashing

2009-11-12 Thread Adrian Reber
There is ubuntu bug report against id3lib libid3 crashes (stack smashing) when reading VBR MP3 file[1]. I am able to reproduce this on ubuntu but not on Fedora and I do not understand why. The patch[2] looks like it is doing the right thing but there is not stack smashing detected using the Fedora

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-12 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le jeudi 12 novembre 2009 à 13:08 +0200, Gilboa Davara a écrit : On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 07:42 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le jeudi 12 novembre 2009 à 06:51 +0200, Gilboa Davara a écrit : I own both icewm and idesk. As far as I know, both icewm and idesk are linked against xft and

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-12 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le jeudi 12 novembre 2009 à 14:59 +0100, Andreas Schwab a écrit : Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: Therefore, I'd like to identify remaining core font users, and remind them periodically their core font use is not good for their users or for Fedora. What's wrong with

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-12 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le jeudi 12 novembre 2009 à 20:34 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit : However please note that even though using xft is less bad than using core fonts, xft alone is still not a complete text stack. (I should have written, using xft directly. xft2 uses fontconfig but direct xft2 access bypasses

FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread James Laska
Greetings folks, After careful review by Will Woods around recently discovered problems related to preupgrading to Fedora 12, I've filed ticket#270 (https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/270) for discussion at the next FESCO meeting. Please take a moment to read the details in the ticket. The

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Linuxguy123
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 14:56 -0500, James Laska wrote: Greetings folks, After careful review by Will Woods around recently discovered problems related to preupgrading to Fedora 12, I've filed ticket#270 (https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/270) for discussion at the next FESCO meeting.

Re: cpio to ext4 seems much slower than to ext2, ext3 or xfs

2009-11-12 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 11/12/2009 01:30 PM, Dennis J. wrote: On 11/12/2009 05:59 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote: Dennis J. wrote: On 11/12/2009 04:03 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote: Richard W.M. Jones wrote: ... I'd like to repeat my proviso: I think this test is meaningless for most users. Until users have 8TB raids at

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Jochen Schmitt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 12.11.2009 20:56, schrieb James Laska: preupgrade to F12 is basically not going to work for anyone without significant manual workarounds, due to insufficient disk space on /boot. I think we may need to talk to hughsie and/or the desktop team

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Richard Hughes
2009/11/12 James Laska jla...@redhat.com:        preupgrade to F12 is basically not going to work for anyone        without significant manual workarounds, due to insufficient disk        space on /boot. I think we may need to talk to hughsie and/or        the desktop team about removing the

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-12 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le jeudi 12 novembre 2009 à 17:38 +, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 01:49:34PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Behdad's advice to me was to use Xft to replace raw X*Font calls in the example I gave:

Re: cpio to ext4 seems much slower than to ext2, ext3 or xfs

2009-11-12 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Ric Wheeler wrote: In our testing with f12, I build a 60TB ext4 file system with 1 billion small files. A forced fsck of ext4 finished in 2.5 hours give or take a bit :-) The fill was artificial and the file system was not aged, so real world results will probably be slower. fsck time

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Neal Becker
James Laska wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 13:00 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 14:56 -0500, James Laska wrote: Greetings folks, After careful review by Will Woods around recently discovered problems related to preupgrading to Fedora 12, I've filed ticket#270

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Conrad Meyer
On Thursday 12 November 2009 12:10:13 pm James Laska wrote: *snip* So there's 174MB of usable space maximum, and usually 158MB available. preupgrade now requires at least 167MB free space on /boot: F12 installer images: 143MB (8mb larger than F11!) F12

Re: cpio to ext4 seems much slower than to ext2, ext3 or xfs

2009-11-12 Thread Eric Sandeen
Roberto Ragusa wrote: Ric Wheeler wrote: In our testing with f12, I build a 60TB ext4 file system with 1 billion small files. A forced fsck of ext4 finished in 2.5 hours give or take a bit :-) The fill was artificial and the file system was not aged, so real world results will probably be

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Neal Becker wrote: James Laska wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 13:00 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 14:56 -0500, James Laska wrote: Greetings folks, After careful review by Will Woods around recently discovered problems related to preupgrading to Fedora

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 15:25 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: James Laska wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 13:00 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 14:56 -0500, James Laska wrote: Greetings folks, After careful review by Will Woods around recently discovered problems related

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Linuxguy123
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 15:10 -0500, James Laska wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 13:00 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 14:56 -0500, James Laska wrote: Greetings folks, After careful review by Will Woods around recently discovered problems related to preupgrading to

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 12:26 -0800, Conrad Meyer wrote: Is part of the reason the F-12 kernel is so much larger that the debugging switch is still flipped on? That's only true for the older F12 development kernels. The kernels since 2.6.31.5-94 have had debugging turned off. -- Jesse

Re: cpio to ext4 seems much slower than to ext2, ext3 or xfs

2009-11-12 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 11/12/2009 03:27 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote: Roberto Ragusa wrote: Ric Wheeler wrote: In our testing with f12, I build a 60TB ext4 file system with 1 billion small files. A forced fsck of ext4 finished in 2.5 hours give or take a bit :-) The fill was artificial and the file system was not aged,

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread John Reiser
F12 kernel: 18MB (10mb larger than F11!) Is part of the reason the F-12 kernel is so much larger that the debugging switch is still flipped on? F12 initrd (initramfs) is about 15.5MB (x86_64) or 11.3MB (i686). F11 initrd (initramfs) is about 3.5MB (x86_64) or 3.0MB

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Thursday 12 November 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 12:26 -0800, Conrad Meyer wrote: Is part of the reason the F-12 kernel is so much larger that the debugging switch is still flipped on? That's only true for the older F12 development kernels. The kernels since

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 23:30 +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: Are the newer non-debug ones still 10MB larger than the F-11 ones (more than twice the size)? If yes, why is that? Just wondering. They are larger, due to using dracut to make the initrds rather than mkinitrd. -- Jesse Keating

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-12 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 01:11:03PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Hi, • cernlib cernlib-0:2006-34.fc12 — /usr/lib64/cernlib/2006/lib/libgrafX11.so.1_gfortran.2006 — /usr/lib64/cernlib/2006/lib/libpacklib-lesstif.so.1_gfortran.2006 —

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com said: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 15:10 -0500, James Laska wrote: preupgrade now requires at least 167MB free space on /boot: F12 installer images: 143MB (8mb larger than F11!) F12 kernel: 18MB (10mb larger

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Will Woods
- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: I don't think increasing /boot just because of preupgrade is a viable solution, as the installer image continues to grow. Is it possible instead to put the installer image (the real problem) somewhere else, like /? Why does it need to be in /boot?

Conservative preupgrade

2009-11-12 Thread Alexander Boström
tor 2009-11-12 klockan 20:02 + skrev Richard Hughes: Tomorrow I'll push a F11 update disabling the preupgrade functionality. This will give us enough time to fix things, and then we can flip the switch with another PK update in a few weeks that re-enables the upgrade functionality. There

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-12 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le jeudi 12 novembre 2009 à 22:47 +0100, Patrice Dumas a écrit : Hi, Cernlib is already legacy, so it wouldn't be so bad that the graphical stuff in cernlib doesn't work. Also it is not clear that it uses that much directly X, but rather goes through Motif. Maybe Xm* symbols should not be

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-12 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 01:11:03PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Hi, encoding standards change. Also, few users means we do not install core font packages by default anymore, so packagers that depend on them but forgot to mark the deps in their packages will deliver broken packages to

Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon

2009-11-12 Thread Jesse Keating
I have just staged Fedora 12 for our mirrors. We're doing something a little different this time around. The releases/12/Everything/ tree will be open to the public as it gets staged. This will allow us to give people who have Fedora 12 installed now access to the fedora repo. We will then be

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-12 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:38:26PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le jeudi 12 novembre 2009 à 22:47 +0100, Patrice Dumas a écrit : Going through Motif or another widget lib does not change the problem. Apps will be affected the same whether they access Core fonts directly or through a proxy.

Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon

2009-11-12 Thread H. Peter Anvin
On 11/12/2009 02:52 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: I have just staged Fedora 12 for our mirrors. We're doing something a little different this time around. The releases/12/Everything/ tree will be open to the public as it gets staged. For heaven's sake, no! Don't you realize this means a ton of

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Farkas Levente
On 11/12/2009 10:45 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 23:30 +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: Are the newer non-debug ones still 10MB larger than the F-11 ones (more than twice the size)? If yes, why is that? Just wondering. They are larger, due to using dracut to make the

texlive2009 f11 broken by today's update

2009-11-12 Thread Neal Becker
Was working, but after today's update: pdflatex pll_freq_ramp.tex This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (Web2C 2009) kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdflatex.fmt I can't find the format file `pdflatex.fmt'! -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon

2009-11-12 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 04:09:55PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: On 11/12/2009 02:52 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: I have just staged Fedora 12 for our mirrors. We're doing something a little different this time around. The releases/12/Everything/ tree will be open to the public as it gets staged.

Plan for tomorrow's (20091113) FESCo meeting

2009-11-12 Thread Jon Stanley
The following topics are currently on the agenda for tomorrow's FESCo meeting, taking place at 17:00UTC (that's noon Eastern) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net 263 Sponsorship request: hubbitus 268 Proven packager request - Daniel Drake 269 Request to approve me a sponsor for

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 02:56:42PM -0500, James Laska wrote: Greetings folks, After careful review by Will Woods around recently discovered problems related to preupgrading to Fedora 12, I've filed ticket#270 (https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/270) for discussion at the next FESCO

Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20091113) FESCo meeting

2009-11-12 Thread Jon Stanley
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Jon Stanley jonstan...@gmail.com wrote: 269     Request to approve me a sponsor for package maintainers Apologies, this is a bad title for a ticket that I normally catch and correct. The me in this instance refers to Rahul Sundaram. -- fedora-devel-list

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-12 Thread Kevin Kofler
Patrice Dumas wrote: The second part of what I wanted to say is that maybe it is not really useful to bother apps using legacy Fonts because they use a given widget library that mandates the use of such fonts Then they need to be ported to a modern toolkit (by upstream). E.g. Xaw has long

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/13/2009 05:05 AM, Farkas Levente wrote: On 11/12/2009 10:45 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 23:30 +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: Are the newer non-debug ones still 10MB larger than the F-11 ones (more than twice the size)? If yes, why is that? Just wondering. They are

Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon

2009-11-12 Thread Roland McGrath
It's certainly possible that users will rsync the Everything tree, but they won't be able to do much with it. Is that the usecase you're worried about? I just rsync'd it from my mirror of choice (kernel.org) and was very glad to get it releases/12/Everything quickly populated with hard links

Re: Identifying remaining core font users

2009-11-12 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at said: Then they need to be ported to a modern toolkit (by upstream). E.g. Xaw has long stopped being viable. (In fact it was never supposed to be more than an example.) If there is no upstream, then maybe it's time to retire the package?

Re: abrt / kernel oops issue

2009-11-12 Thread Kevin Kofler
Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: Unless Virtualbox is closed source but I didn't think it was. VirtualBox is proprietary. VirtualBox OSE (Open Source Edition) is Free Software. RPM Fusion (Free section) ships the latter. Upstream packages only the former, they only distribute the OSE in source form.

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Sorry for breaking thread: There are definitely workarounds available, but none that meet the criteria for preupgrade as an effortless upgrade option. So I'm a bit confused by what is so hard here. preupgrade starts up, finds it can't store stage2, and then tells you that you'll need to have

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Bill Nottingham
Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) said: There are definitely workarounds available, but none that meet the criteria for preupgrade as an effortless upgrade option. So I'm a bit confused by what is so hard here. preupgrade starts up, finds it can't store stage2, and then tells you that

Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon

2009-11-12 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 16:09 -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: For heaven's sake, no! Don't you realize this means a ton of *users* will start to bog down the mirrors before the whole data set has propagated through the network? I'm not sure what you're expecting, but users will only be able to

Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12

2009-11-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:27:28PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) said: There are definitely workarounds available, but none that meet the criteria for preupgrade as an effortless upgrade option. So I'm a bit confused by what is so hard here.

[Bug 536724] problem with character 0BB7

2009-11-12 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=536724 --- Comment #3 from K. Sethu skh...@gmail.com 2009-11-12 04:35:18 EDT --- I tried to install

[Issue 105084] OpenSymbol font: Math related changes

2009-11-12 Thread tl
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=105084 --- Additional comments from t...@openoffice.org Thu Nov 12 15:17:15 + 2009 --- Files changed: M extras/source/truetype/symbol/OpenSymbol.sfd M

[Bug 466369] font rendering is messed up on F-11

2009-11-12 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466369 Tim Niemueller t...@niemueller.de changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 530880] Review Request: ns-tiza-fonts - A Slab-Serif Font

2009-11-12 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530880 --- Comment #22 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2009-11-12 20:58:32 EDT ---

[Bug 530880] Review Request: ns-tiza-fonts - A Slab-Serif Font

2009-11-12 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530880 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 530880] Review Request: ns-tiza-fonts - A Slab-Serif Font

2009-11-12 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530880 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 530880] Review Request: ns-tiza-fonts - A Slab-Serif Font

2009-11-12 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530880 --- Comment #24 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2009-11-12 21:33:48 EDT ---

[Bug 530880] Review Request: ns-tiza-fonts - A Slab-Serif Font

2009-11-12 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530880 --- Comment #23 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2009-11-12 21:31:05 EDT ---

Two new packaged fonts

2009-11-12 Thread TK009
ns-tiza-chalk-fonts and ns-bola-fonts have been packaged =). https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NS_Tiza_fonts https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NS_Bola_fonts Thank you Mairin for highlighting these fonts and thank you Nicolas for your help in getting them packaged. TK009

Meeting Log - 2009-11-12

2009-11-12 Thread Ricky Zhou
20:02 mmcgrath #startmeeting Infrastructure 20:02 zodbot Meeting started Thu Nov 12 20:02:30 2009 UTC. The chair is mmcgrath. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:02 zodbot Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:02 -!- zodbot changed the

rsyncd: s/ignore unreadable/ignore nonreadable/

2009-11-12 Thread Matt Domsch
the syntax is actually 'ignore nonreadable'. man rsyncd.conf. +1s? diff --git a/modules/rsync/files/rsyncd.conf.secondary1 b/modules/rsync/files/rsyncd.conf.secondary1 index 0fbee6c..bc3c301 100644 --- a/modules/rsync/files/rsyncd.conf.secondary1 +++

Re: rsyncd: s/ignore unreadable/ignore nonreadable/

2009-11-12 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2009-11-12 11:47:46 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: the syntax is actually 'ignore nonreadable'. man rsyncd.conf. +1s? diff --git a/modules/rsync/files/rsyncd.conf.secondary1 b/modules/rsync/files/rsyncd.conf.secondary1 index 0fbee6c..bc3c301 100644 ---

Re: Affraid to Upgrade from FC9 to FC12

2009-11-12 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 11/12/2009 09:43 AM, Roger wrote: The question really comes down to how important the constant upgrades really are to each of us. Not quite. I lived very happily with F8 (KDE3.5) until 11 came out. Mind you, it was because KDE4 sucked, but that's another discussion. By F11, though, there

Re: disaster recovery Q's

2009-11-12 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 00:56 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Are there any hard links in the system anyplace besides the /etc tree? The resume partition (if you use one) is set in the initrd, I don't know what method it uses to define the partition (device name, UUID, label). -- fedora-list mailing

How to Backup and Restore MBR within Logical Volumes?

2009-11-12 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
Hi All, I have several Xen virtual machines within logical volumes using LVM2. I did not use disk images for performance reasons. Conventionally, if I want to clone my virtual machines, I have to dd the LV to an image file. But this consumes a lot of time and harddisk space. So, instead of

Re: My laptop's battery is bigger than yours

2009-11-12 Thread L
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Somehow, since a few weeks ago, occasionally gnome power manager loses its mind and starts telling me that my laptop battery's last full charge is 946.0 watt-hours of juice. Which makes the battery percentage

Re: How to Backup and Restore MBR within Logical Volumes?

2009-11-12 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: # kpartx -av /dev/loop1 [...] But the problem is that I can only backup/clone the filesystems of my virtual machine within a logical volume. I can't backup the Master Boot Record (MBR) of the virtual machine within a logical volume. For example, dd

Re: [Xen-users] How to Backup and Restore MBR within Logical Volumes?

2009-11-12 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
dd if=/dev/virtualmachines/windows7-x64 of=mbr.w7-x64 bs=512 count=1 I think if you do this, you are only backing up the first 512 bytes of the logical volume, not the MBR. Someone correct me if I am wrong. -- Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics) BEng(Hons)(Mechanical Engineering)

Re: How to Backup and Restore MBR within Logical Volumes?

2009-11-12 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
Maybe I didn't really understand your setup, but... isn't your mbr simply on /dev/loop1? Yes, you are right. r...@sysresccd /mnt/hitachi/test % fdisk -l /dev/loop1 Disk /dev/loop1: 53.7 GB, 53687091200 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 6527 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280

Re: [Fedora-xen] How to Backup and Restore MBR within Logical Volumes?

2009-11-12 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
Thank you for your advice! Is it called LVM snapshot? -- Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip(Mechatronics) BEng(Hons)(Mechanical Engineering) Alma Maters: (1) Singapore Polytechnic (2) National University of Singapore My Primary Blog: http://teo-en-ming-aka-zhang-enming.blogspot.com My Secondary

Re: [Xen-users] Re: How to Backup and Restore MBR within Logical Volumes?

2009-11-12 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
Hi, I don't think I will be using the LVM snapshot method. I will simply ensure that my domU is not running, then I proceed to do the losetup and kpartx procedure. Subsequently I will backup the MBR of my domU by dd-ing /dev/loopX and clone all the filesystems of the domU using fsarchiver. I

Re: My laptop's battery is bigger than yours

2009-11-12 Thread Christoph Höger
Am Donnerstag, den 12.11.2009, 20:35 +1100 schrieb L: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: Somehow, since a few weeks ago, occasionally gnome power manager loses its mind and starts telling me that my laptop battery's last full charge is 946.0

Re: How to Backup and Restore MBR within Logical Volumes?

2009-11-12 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 09:23 +, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: Hi All, I have several Xen virtual machines within logical volumes using LVM2. I did not use disk images for performance reasons. Conventionally, if I want to clone my virtual machines, I have to dd the LV to an

Re: [Xen-users] How to Backup and Restore MBR within Logical Volumes?

2009-11-12 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 09:45 +, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: dd if=/dev/virtualmachines/windows7-x64 of=mbr.w7-x64 bs=512 count=1 I think if you do this, you are only backing up the first 512 bytes of the logical volume, not the MBR. Someone correct me if I am wrong. That

Re: Upgrades driving me crazy....

2009-11-12 Thread Simon Andrews
Michael Pawlowsky wrote: Are there any other people using FC in a production enterprise environment? Production, certainly. We have 7 fedora servers all providing public facing services over a range of different functionalities. All are running F11. The constant upgrades are driving me

Re: How to Backup and Restore MBR within Logical Volumes?

2009-11-12 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Bryn M. Reeves b...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 09:23 +, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: Hi All, I have several Xen virtual machines within logical volumes using LVM2. I did not use disk images for performance reasons.

RE: Anyone tested the HP Probook 4310s with fedora 11?

2009-11-12 Thread Edwin Tan
Hi Tait, Thanks for your advice. I be looking at that soon. regards, Edwin Tan. -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Tait Clarridge Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:28 PM To: Community assistance,

Re: My laptop's battery is bigger than yours

2009-11-12 Thread Richard Hughes
2009/11/12 Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com: Somehow, since a few weeks ago, occasionally gnome power manager loses its mind and starts telling me that my laptop battery's last full charge is 946.0 watt-hours of juice. Which makes the battery percentage indicator pretty much meaningless.

Re: My laptop's battery is bigger than yours

2009-11-12 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Richard Hughes writes: 2009/11/12 Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com: Somehow, since a few weeks ago, occasionally gnome power manager loses its mind and starts telling me that my laptop battery's last full charge is 946.0 watt-hours of juice. Which makes the battery percentage indicator

Re: Upgrades driving me crazy....

2009-11-12 Thread John Aldrich
Quoting Michael Pawlowsky mi...@clearskymedia.ca: Are there any other people using FC in a production enterprise environment? The constant upgrades are driving me nuts. We have machines at FC8-FC9-FC10 and FC-11. The main reason we are using FC is because one it's free (in a sense). The next

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