Re: fedora core 12 with dual head and kde

2010-01-08 Thread Paul Campbell
On 01/08/2010 09:53 AM, Andrew Parker wrote: On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:22 AM, Wolfgang Leideck wleid...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello fedora users, how can I configure KDE to spread the desktop over two monitors. I'm using a Dell Optiplex 760. lspci shows 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller:

Final Board appointment, and IRC meeting reminder 2010-01-07 UTC 1700

2010-01-07 Thread Paul W. Frields
if needed, or you may email us at any time with questions or issues. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com

Re: Changing GNOME default directories

2010-01-07 Thread Paul W. Frields
. Paul W. Frields: It's xdg-user-dirs-update, and it does work. Just tested it here on a fresh account. What does it actually do? Create replacements for missing special directories? (As I said, I haven't managed to see it do anything, yet.) That's right, it does that on first session

Re: F12 all media players have no video but sound only

2010-01-07 Thread Paul W. Frields
of the box: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster

Re: Does anyone else think yumex is broken?

2010-01-07 Thread Paul W. Frields
communicating in my experience, and I use it most of the time in Fedora. Yum also has bits that allow it to communicate with PackageKit when run on the command line. This system works quite well. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC

Re: Does anyone else think yumex is broken?

2010-01-07 Thread Paul W. Frields
be interested in hearing about it via a bug filing, and could probably help figure out where to pull out the appropriate info if it recurs. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http

Re: help

2010-01-07 Thread Paul
Hi, we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, Anaconda 12.47 Which version of Fedora are you using and what is the video card in the machines? TTFN Paul -- Sie können mich aufreizen

Re: [in the news] Virtualisation Enhancements in F12

2010-01-07 Thread Paul W. Frields
use. I'll check with the uploader to find out. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster

Re: Best way to get minimal system

2010-01-06 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 04:05:18PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 12:28:55AM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 09:22 +1100, Chris Smart wrote: Hi all, what's the best way to get a minimal Fedora system? What do you mean

Re: Network Audio

2010-01-06 Thread Paul W. Frields
is possible, overlap is acceptable. I do this in my home office with PulseAudio's network capabilities. Works like a champ. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com

Transifex upgrade

2010-01-05 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:45:23AM +1000, Noriko Mizumoto wrote: Paul W. Frields さんは書きました: Diego posted the summary of what needs to be done here: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1455#comment:10 In short, we need a few people to step up and help with the process

Re: Changing GNOME default directories

2010-01-05 Thread Paul W. Frields
with xdg-user-dirs-update, but it appears that even though you can use the program to set values, you still need to create special directories before first login if they're different from the system defaults. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint

Re: Best way to get minimal system

2010-01-05 Thread Paul W. Frields
with system-config-network (since there's no NetworkManager available) and then you can go to town. :-) -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http

Re: Top Crashers

2010-01-04 Thread Paul W. Frields
analysis by extracting the ABRT reports from BZ would just be horrible. Is the existing CBI project helpful in this case? http://lwn.net/Articles/362777/ -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717

Re: yum update question

2010-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Monday 04 January 2010 05:50:54 Paul Allen Newell wrote: While doing a yum update after an install from DVD, I noticed that I got the following message (this is a write it down and then retype into computer that has mail so I might have a typo: [...] Installing

Re: Changing GNOME default directories

2010-01-04 Thread Paul W. Frields
a logout. Maybe I could use sym links, but,IMHO, is not the clean answer! After you change the value in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs, run 'xdg-user-dirs-update' to set the changes in stone. The directory to which you point must exist. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp

Re: yum update question

2010-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Monday 04 January 2010 08:15:13 Paul Allen Newell wrote: Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Monday 04 January 2010 05:50:54 Paul Allen Newell wrote: [...] Installing: kernal-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686 W: Possible missing firmware ql8100_fw.bin for module

Re: yum update question

2010-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
s wrote: On 01/03/2010 11:50 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: While doing a yum update after an install from DVD, I noticed that I got the following message (this is a write it down and then retype into computer that has mail so I might have a typo: [...] Installing: kernal-PAE-2.6.31.9-174.fc12

another question on Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2010-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Paul Allen Newell wrote: Kevin Fenzi wrote: Don't do that. See: http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/controlaltbackspace-shortcut-does-not-restart-the-x-server-in-fedora-11/ (with screenshots even! :) There is no need at all to make an xorg.conf, and as you have seen it can cause

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2010-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
on the past couple times I've tried to find thing. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Marketing goals, revisited: the 4 Foundations

2010-01-04 Thread Paul W. Frields
to one of these before myself, I'm not sure what the opportunities here look like, or how we fit in, but I think it's definitely worth exploring. Mo and Paul and several others on this list have been at the Fedora booth at RH Summits before (I think Mo and Paul went to the one this past summer

control-C and yum update

2010-01-03 Thread Paul Allen Newell
was an immediate kill of whatever was running and was wondering why yum didn't stop when I tried to kill it. Am I missing something about either control-C or yum update .. or both? Thanks in advance for any explanation as I am wondering if I really understand control-C Paul -- fedora-list mailing list

yum update question

2010-01-03 Thread Paul Allen Newell
in advance, Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: control-C and yum update

2010-01-03 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Chris Smart wrote: 2010/1/4 Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.edu: I though control-C was an immediate kill of whatever was running and was wondering why yum didn't stop when I tried to kill it. It's an interrupt, which could be blocked or it might be on a different queue. You should

Re: F13 Schedule - question!

2010-01-03 Thread Paul W. Frields
F13 schedule. Now all we have to do is clean up Trac. :) Late, but +1 to Robyn's suggestion on eliminating confusion with a link. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com

Re: Openoffice.org EOL announcement

2010-01-03 Thread Paul W. Frields
://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life_SOP I also added a link to that page on the main EOL page so it would be easier for you or anyone else to help contribute directly to it. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906

Re: Mono.Cecil monodevelop-debugger-mdb

2010-01-02 Thread Paul
bit lib fixes - don't ask, I've been trying for ages to get them to accept them). I'm going to have a go at building the other monodevelop plugins over the next week and get them into rawhide Assuming I still can by then ;-p TTFN Paul -- Sie können mich aufreizen und wirklich heiß machen

Packaging problem with %find_lang

2010-01-02 Thread Paul
this point though, it complains there are no translation files despite there being translation files! The build is producing the following mkdir -p /home/paul/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/monodevelop-boo-2.2-1.fc13.i386/usr/lib/monodevelop/AddIns/BooBinding/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/ cp '../build/locale/zh_CN

Fixing the kernel for intel laptops

2010-01-01 Thread Paul
and see which one is killing the system and then feed that back to the kernel bods. The current rawhide kernel (2.6.32.2-14.fc13.i686) is no go on the laptop. Question is, how do I configure the spec file to use the latest kernel tarball? TTFN Paul -- Sie können mich aufreizen und wirklich heiß

Re: Installation plays hardball

2009-12-31 Thread Colin Paul Adams
John == John Aldrich jmaldr...@yahoo.com writes: John As I said, you need to choose to use a custom partition John scheme, otherwise, Fedora will wipe every linux partition as John happened to you. Granted, it's not obvious, but if you've John been playing with linux for more

installing to external disk: esata now!

2009-12-31 Thread Paul Johnson
in order to boot from an esata drive. Currently, for the USB boot, the modules needed are specified in /etc/modprobe.conf, they are: alias scsi_hostadapter ata_piix alias scsi_hostadapter1 usb-storage If one of you knows the similar recipe for esata, I would very much appreciate it. -- Paul E

Re: Tomcat6 docs

2009-12-31 Thread Paul Campbell
Just filed bug against 6.0.20 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551643 Isidore Nabi wrote: Alessandro Boggiano wrote: I've installed the package tomcat6-docs-webapp-6.0.18-9.2.fc11.noarch, but it contains all zero size html files. Of course, I can't see anything, as

BZ 523646 - F13Blocker?

2009-12-29 Thread Paul
problems. Thoughts folks? TTFN Paul -- Sie können mich aufreizen und wirklich heiß machen! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-29 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Suvayu and Ed: Thanks for these replies. Points taken as they help me see the weaknesses in my understanding. So, yeah, I got hacking / homework ahead ... and seeing if I can figure out enough to feel comfortable learning / switch to bash from tcsh. Paul Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Paul

Re: how to increase the number of cirtual desktops?

2009-12-28 Thread paul van der meij
I assume you are working under gnome. Just right click with the cursor in on of the workspace icons, on the panel bar on the right. select preferences and you can change the number of virtual workspaces and other things. greetings paul 2009/12/28 Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com Robert P. J. Day

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread Paul Allen Newell
TNWestTex wrote: Paul Allen Newell wrote: François Patte wrote: Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.edu a écrit : To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread Paul Allen Newell
in my usage of fedora. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Ed Greshko wrote: Paul Allen Newell wrote: Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Aaron, On Monday 28 December 2009 02:11 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 03:04 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: ~/.bash_profile gets sourced by any well behaved desktop environment when ever you

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Ed Greshko wrote: Paul Allen Newell wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Paul Allen Newell wrote: Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Aaron, On Monday 28 December 2009 02:11 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 03:04 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote

Re: rawhide report: 20091227 changes

2009-12-27 Thread Paul
Fixed. Grab it from koji now or wait until tomorrows rawhide update. TTFN Paul -- Sie können mich aufreizen und wirklich heiß machen! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman

problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-27 Thread Paul Allen Newell
.. I've never understood why X has to actually connect to the monitor to be correct, but X is pretty near a black box as far as I am concerned (sigh). Thanks in advance, Paul Thanks, Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: Anybody want to crash their X server? :-).

2009-12-27 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Hiisi == Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru writes: Hiisi arc-drawing bug also will be cured soon. By the way, about Hiisi your theory of its relation with video card. Mine is: Hiisi 1. lspci | grep ATI 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Hiisi Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon

Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-27 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Colin == Colin Paul Adams co...@colina.demon.co.uk writes: Linuxguy123 == Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com writes: Linuxguy123 Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the Linuxguy123 proprietary nvidia driver instead of the nouveau Linuxguy123 driver. Linuxguy123 DON'T

Re: how to increase the number of cirtual desktops?

2009-12-27 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Robert == Robert P J Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca writes: Robert i'm embarrassed to ask this, but how does one increase Robert the number of virtual desktops in f12? used to be there Robert were 4, but with f12, after a fresh install, there's only Robert 2 and i've poked around

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-27 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Eric Tanguy wrote: Le 27/12/2009 09:42, Paul Allen Newell a écrit : To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. Searched Fedora f12 web pages and they told me to install

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-27 Thread Paul Allen Newell
François Patte wrote: Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.edu a écrit : To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. Searched Fedora f12 web pages and they told me to install

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-27 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Craig White wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-27 at 00:42 -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote: To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. Searched Fedora f12 web pages and they told me

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-27 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:42:19 -0800 Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.edu wrote: To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. How did you discover

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-27 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Suvayu Ali wrote: On Sunday 27 December 2009 11:06 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:42:19 -0800 Paul Allen Newellpnew...@cs.cmu.edu wrote: To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf

Re: Anybody want to crash their X server? :-).

2009-12-25 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Tom == Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net writes: Tom Exploring various obscure corners of gimp, I came up with a Tom sure-fire way to crash my X server, and I'm just wondering if Tom anyone else wants to try it. Tom See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=550415#c3

Re: No F-12 Flash -

2009-12-24 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Andre == Andre Costa blue...@gmail.com writes: Andre On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:37, Amadeus W.M. amadeu...@verizon.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:51:10 +, Colin Paul Adams wrote: Amadeus == Amadeus W M amadeu...@verizon.net writes: Amadeus I got

Power Management caused 2 second instant poweroff on Desktop

2009-12-23 Thread Paul Wouters
of it while on my call and forgot about it. Later, while just doing some file editing, a (gnome power management?) popup appears with a power button on the left side, stating Paul Wouters is logged on. System will shut down in 60 seconds. Looking at the popup kinda surprised, I move my hand to my

Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-23 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Linuxguy123 == Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com writes: Linuxguy123 Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the Linuxguy123 proprietary nvidia driver instead of the nouveau Linuxguy123 driver. Linuxguy123 DON'T reply otherwise, I don't want to hear a debate Linuxguy123

File MailTools-2.05.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2009-12-23 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-MailTools: 86a51c5a81a55e555c7a84dfdf6ab270 MailTools-2.05.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com

rpms/perl-MailTools/devel .cvsignore, 1.14, 1.15 perl-MailTools.spec, 1.32, 1.33 sources, 1.14, 1.15

2009-12-23 Thread Paul Howarth
/Mail::Util.3pm* %changelog -* Mon Dec 7 2009 Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com - 2.04-4 -- rebuild against perl 5.10.1 +* Mon Dec 21 2009 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org 2.05-1 +- Update to 2.05 + - Fix de-ref error when index out of range in Mail::Header::get() + - Repair fixed selection of smtp

Re: Mono 2.6 - heads up

2009-12-22 Thread Paul
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Re: No F-12 Flash -

2009-12-22 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Amadeus == Amadeus W M amadeu...@verizon.net writes: Amadeus I got libflashplayer-10.0.42.34.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz Amadeus from some download site that google will find it easily, Amadeus for 64 bit fedora. Unzip it and put it as you mentioned Amadeus in

Re: Pulseaudio problem with xine, xmms and mplayer

2009-12-20 Thread Paul
has seen it or report it under the wrong application then? Sounds like a cunning plan to me... TTFN Paul -- Sie können mich aufreizen und wirklich heiß machen! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Mono 2.6 - heads up

2009-12-20 Thread Paul
/Release_Notes_Mono_2.6 and this time, I've added a new subpackage for the preview of C# 4.0 TTFN Paul -- Sie können mich aufreizen und wirklich heiß machen! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https

Re: thunderbird question with gmail

2009-12-20 Thread Paul Smith
the already downloaded email and start over, but I was hoping for a better way. Instead of using the POP3 protocol, why not using IMAP? Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Pulseaudio problem with xine, xmms and mplayer

2009-12-19 Thread Paul
, they all fail and die with the same error. I'm using pulseaudio-0.9.21-3.fc13 and the 2.6.32-0.65.rc8.git5.fc13.i686.PAE kernel PAM fires up and reports all the audio devices are running fine. Any ideas? TTFN Paul -- Sie können mich aufreizen und wirklich heiß machen! signature.asc

Can't run Firefox after installing fedora 12

2009-12-19 Thread Colin Paul Adams
I get an error dialog: SQLite Version Error The application has been updated, but your version of SQLite is too old and the application cannot run. this happened immediately after installing F12 from the x86_64 DVD. that was with sqlite version 3.6.17 and firefox 3.4.??? After doing a yum

How to get fonts matching pattern?

2009-12-19 Thread Colin Paul Adams
I have a program (xshogi) which puts out a message: No fonts match pattern -*-helvetica-medium-o-normal--*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* xlsfonts confirms no match. How can I install fonts matching this pattern? -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To

FESCo election results December 2009

2009-12-18 Thread Paul W. Frields
. Robert Scheck (rsc)663 6. Justin M. Forbes (jforbes) 535 7. Richard June (rjune) 415 As such, Adam Jackson, Christoph Wickert, Peter Jones, and Matthew Garrett are elected to FESCo for a full 2 release term. - -- Paul W. Frields

Re: FESCo election results December 2009

2009-12-18 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 06:09:42PM +, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: Fri, 2009-12-18 at 13:06 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 12:19 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: Information: At close of voting there were: 216 valid ballots Using the Fedora Range Voting

Re: FESCo election results December 2009

2009-12-18 Thread Paul W. Frields
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:19:47PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: Election Results for FESCo - Fedora 13 Cycle Voting Period: 05 December 2009 00:00:00 UTC to 16 December 2009 23:59:59 UTC Nominations: * Adam Jackson (ajax) * Christoph

Re: Fedora mailing list migration

2009-12-18 Thread Paul W. Frields
-list/2009-December/thread.html Also, I asked one of the folks on the migration team to write up a short wiki page that describes what users should expect to see and do as a result of the migration. You can expect that shortly, I believe. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp

FUDCon Toronto: please take the 5-minute feedback survey

2009-12-17 Thread Paul W. Frields
shortly after it closes. If you're curious about the process, interested in helping us analyze the results, or have any questions in general, join the conversation on the Fedora Marketing mailing list (https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list). --Mel * * * * * -- Paul W

Election results for FAmSCo, FESCo coming shortly

2009-12-17 Thread Paul W. Frields
and results. - -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

Re: [Patch] Fix PXE booting for livecd-iso-to-pxeboot created images

2009-12-17 Thread Paul W. Frields
for the OP to file the patch: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedoracomponent=livecd-tools -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http

Re: f12 guide

2009-12-16 Thread Paul W. Frields
://docs.fedoraproject.org/ -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

Re: [in the news] Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users

2009-12-16 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 09:03:41AM -0500, Kara Schiltz wrote: Computerworld 12.16.09 Review: 3 top Linux distros go for different users By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols [clip] Paul Frields, Red Hat's Fedora Project Leader, described Fedora to me as being first and foremost for users

Re: FUDCon survey draft - last call for feedback

2009-12-16 Thread Paul W. Frields
In question 26, I think microblogs + Facebook + LinkedIn could be effectively combined as Status updates via Twitter, Identi.ca, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.. I think a lot of people probably use status-spraying tools that update all of them at once. (That's the if Paul has figured that out, probably lots

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-15 Thread Paul Jakma
, 64bit kernel, 64bit for a select few applications that actually need the benefits of x86_64 (memory/bit more performance), but hey.. regards, -- Paul Jakma p...@jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A Fortune: If you can't learn to do it well, learn to enjoy doing it badly. -- fedora-devel-list mailing

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-15 Thread Paul Jakma
incredibly difficult thing that I'm asking for, the support is pretty much 99.9% there.. Anyway :) Sorry for extending this thread, but it seemed I miscommunicated in previous emails and failed to get the basic points across properly. regards, -- Paul Jakma p...@jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-15 Thread Paul Jakma
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Paul Jakma wrote: I would like to have the advantages of *both* 32 and 64bit, as and where each one is appropriate. I'd like to be able to use that 30-60% of memory on more VMs, e.g., rather than bigger gnome-*, etc. processes. Ah, and to get the memory benefits, you

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-15 Thread Paul Jakma
for a few months until I got tired of yum not being able to update kernel packages. The kernel side apparently works fine AFAICT. The .1% is yum. regards, -- Paul Jakma p...@jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A Fortune: Lots of folks confuse bad management with destiny. -- Frank Hubbard

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-15 Thread Paul Jakma
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Paul Jakma wrote: My data-point is that I ran an x86-64 kernel on i386 F10 for a few months until I got tired of yum not being able to update kernel packages. The kernel side apparently works fine AFAICT. The .1% is yum. Oh, I don't quite remember the details, but I

Re: Voting app offline time?

2009-12-15 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 01:51:15PM -0600, inode0 wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:08:15PM -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Mike McGrath wrote: On Mon, 14

Re: 3G dongles

2009-12-15 Thread Paul W. Frields
-with-networkmanager/ -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

Re: 3G dongles

2009-12-15 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:20:56AM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 03:48:30PM +0100, Antonio M wrote: are these kinds of dongles working in F12??? Yes, quite a large number of them in fact. This was one of the major feature points in the Fedora 12 release that went

Re: Detecting how Apps are called.

2009-12-15 Thread Paul W. Frields
not be incredibly useful. The applications called when you insert or attach common types of media are found in your main menu under System Preferences File Management, in the Media tab. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233

Re: Fedora Board, FESCo FAmSCo Elections - Voting Information

2009-12-14 Thread Paul W. Frields
forward to the 5th December instead of the 8th December. As announced by Paul Frields in the event of extended outage, we will as appropriate extend the voting period. We have also implemented a new feature in our voting software, so users can verify their votes. Vote verification can be done

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-14 Thread Paul Jakma
on memory usage. If the data is heavily inter-linked, even more so. Whether that's the case for most applications, I do not know however. It would though be interesting for someone to go measure this, especially in the aggregate. regards, -- Paul Jakma p...@jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A Fortune

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-14 Thread Paul Jakma
as 64bit. (Also, please assume in any replies that I have a modicum of clue about the low-level technical details between i386 and x86_64). regards, -- Paul Jakma p...@jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A Fortune: magnetic interferance from money/credit cards -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-14 Thread Paul Jakma
). And from that we somehow got into a x86_64 versus x86 thread of doom, with (IMHO) much missing of the general point. Anyway, enough. regards, -- Paul Jakma p...@jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A Fortune: Where do you go to get anorexia? -- Shelley Winters -- fedora-devel-list

Re: x86-64 on i386 (was Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?)

2009-12-14 Thread Paul Jakma
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 12:33 +, Paul Jakma wrote: You're missing the point. If I put you in front of 2 identical machines, one running 32bit and one 64bit software, would you be able to tell which one was which, from the interactive performance

Re: astronomy-bookmarks conflicts with fedora-bookmarks

2009-12-14 Thread Paul W. Frields
anyone know? [p...@scarlett ~]$ repoquery -q --provides astronomy-bookmarks astronomy-bookmarks = 1-6.fc12 system-bookmarks [p...@scarlett ~]$ repoquery -q --provides fedora-bookmarks fedora-bookmarks = 11-2 system-bookmarks They both provide 'system-bookmarks'. -- Paul W. Frields

Re: astronomy-bookmarks conflicts with fedora-bookmarks

2009-12-14 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 05:01:56PM -0500, Mike Bonnet wrote: On 12/14/2009 04:50 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 04:32:56PM -0500, Eric Christensen wrote: When trying to install astronomy-bookmarks I get the error that astronomy-bookmarks conflicts with fedora-bookmarks

Voting app offline time?

2009-12-14 Thread Paul W. Frields
Has the voting app been offline during the move? If so, how long? The answer to those questions will determine whether and how long we need to extend the voting period. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906

Re: Voting app offline time?

2009-12-14 Thread Paul W. Frields
. Yup, top-side estimates add up to 8 hours, so we should extend the voting by one day as agreed. Make it so! ;-) -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com

Re: Voting app offline time?

2009-12-14 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 09:51:09AM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:14:46AM +1000, Nigel Jones wrote: We had some the original DB downtime ~1-2 hours, then downtime due to fas not been around ~1-2 hours, plus a DB downtime of ~2-3 hours and a VPN downtime of about

Re: Enabling Airport wireless on Macbook Air with F12

2009-12-14 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Peter == Peter Danenberg p...@roxygen.org writes: Peter Quoth Colin Paul Adams on Boomtime, the 55th of The Peter Aftermath: This is not supported by the b43 device driver, so Linux on this machine is not on. Peter That doesn't necessarily follow: I got wireless working

Re: Enabling Airport wireless on Macbook Air with F12

2009-12-14 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Peter == Peter Danenberg p...@roxygen.org writes: Peter Quoth Colin Paul Adams on Pungenday, the 56th of The Peter Aftermath: Maybe this will work with your second generation air. Peter Colin, you're a genius! Possibly, but if so, I haven't shown it on this thread :-) just

Re: Enabling Airport wireless on Macbook Air with F12

2009-12-14 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Colin == Colin Paul Adams co...@colina.demon.co.uk writes: Peter == Peter Danenberg p...@roxygen.org writes: Peter Quoth Colin Paul Adams on Pungenday, the 56th of The Peter Aftermath: Maybe this will work with your second generation air. Peter Colin, you're a genius

Re: Enabling Airport wireless on Macbook Air with F12

2009-12-14 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Peter == Peter Danenberg p...@roxygen.org writes: Peter Quoth Colin Paul Adams on Pungenday, the 56th of The Peter Aftermath: P.S. How do I right click (and middle click??) with the mouse in GNOME on the Air? Peter If synaptics is enabled, hold down two fingers on the pad

Re: Enabling Airport wireless on Macbook Air with F12

2009-12-14 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Peter == Peter Danenberg p...@roxygen.org writes: Peter Quoth Colin Paul Adams on Pungenday, the 56th of The Peter Aftermath: I haven't had a chance to try this - the mouse pointer stopped moving again. i have to reboot to re-enable it. Any ideas on how to cure

Re: Fedora Board, FESCo FAmSCo Elections - Voting Information

2009-12-14 Thread Paul W. Frields
forward to the 5th December instead of the 8th December. As announced by Paul Frields in the event of extended outage, we will as appropriate extend the voting period. We have also implemented a new feature in our voting software, so users can verify their votes. Vote verification can be done

Re: Enabling Airport wireless on Macbook Air with F12

2009-12-14 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Peter == Peter Danenberg p...@roxygen.org writes: Peter Quoth Colin Paul Adams on Pungenday, the 56th of The Peter Aftermath: I just tried RythmBox with an Audio CD - it plays but not sound :-( Peter The consensus seems to be (at least for MacBookAir2,1), Peter

Re: Enabling Airport wireless on Macbook Air with F12

2009-12-14 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Peter == Peter Danenberg p...@roxygen.org writes: Peter Quoth Colin Paul Adams on Pungenday, the 56th of The Peter Aftermath: Works for both headphones and speakers for me. :-) Peter Which reminds me: which air do you have; or what's the Peter output of the following

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